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Topic: Schoolboy player takes club to court
Posted By: DylanCCFC
Subject: Schoolboy player takes club to court
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2017 at 11:20am
http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/soccer-player-sues-club-for-trauma-448797.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/soccer-player-sues-club-for-trauma-448797.html

Thoughts?



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Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2017 at 11:27am
Originally posted by DylanCCFC DylanCCFC wrote:

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/soccer-player-sues-club-for-trauma-448797.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/soccer-player-sues-club-for-trauma-448797.html

Thoughts?
You couldn't make it up. LOLLOLLOL


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Posted By: MC Hammered
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2017 at 11:49am
I don't subscribe to online bullying but whilst not knowing the full facts, the combo of the brief outline of the case and the young lads haircut has prejudiced me against him completely. 

Needs a stint in the Marines for an alternative form of coaching. 



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Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2017 at 12:25pm
The reasons given in the article, as well as the haircut, mean you are correct. If he wins,every GAA club in the country will be done!

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Posted By: Gary McKay
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2017 at 12:27pm
Read that this morning, unbelievable stuff.
 
This kid will be putting in claims for the rest of his life.
 


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Posted By: FrankosHereNow
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2017 at 12:33pm
I got dropped from my schools team U14 team for smashing up a player from Salesian College. I played against the f**ker the previous Saturday when playing against Celbridge Boys, he nutmugged me, I was still raging.


I never started for the school team again under that manager/teacher. I could have reached the top if it wasn't for that. I think I'll put in a claim.


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Posted By: Borussia
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2017 at 12:35pm
Am currently talking to my lawyer based on occurrences at previous fan's games. 

Could I also just take this opportunity to say what a fine bunch of lads have represented us in these games over the years. 




Posted By: DylanCCFC
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2017 at 12:59pm
Case was thrown out.


Posted By: Gary McKay
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2017 at 1:09pm
Originally posted by FrankosHereNow FrankosHereNow wrote:

I got dropped from my schools team U14 team for smashing up a player from Salesian College. I played against the f**ker the previous Saturday when playing against Celbridge Boys, he nutmugged me, I was still raging.
Wait, you thought, your time will come.
The ball was there, you thought.
BAM, take that you kunt.
 


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Posted By: ShamtheRam
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2017 at 1:27pm
Originally posted by DylanCCFC DylanCCFC wrote:

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/soccer-player-sues-club-for-trauma-448797.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/soccer-player-sues-club-for-trauma-448797.html

Thoughts?
The kids a fanny and his Dad is an ambulance chaser.


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Posted By: ConorMac77
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2017 at 1:31pm
Originally posted by DylanCCFC DylanCCFC wrote:

Case was thrown out.
Just as well. Clap
 
As PM said above, if that lad had won the case, there'd be GAA (and soccer and rugby) clubs up and down the country being hit with cases like this with parents queuing up to lodge claims just because their wee 'uns weren't getting a game.
 
It certainly speaks volumes for today's compensation culture that such a case was even considered, never mind taken all the way to Court. Unhappy 


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Posted By: ConorMac77
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2017 at 1:34pm
Originally posted by MC Hammered MC Hammered wrote:

I don't subscribe to online bullying but whilst not knowing the full facts, the combo of the brief outline of the case and the young lads haircut has prejudiced me against him completely. 

Needs a stint in the Marines for an alternative form of coaching. 

LOL
 
Probably would have got similar treatment (certainly would have been told to catch himself on, at least) if he tried taking a case like this about 20 years ago. LOL


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Posted By: rossieman
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2017 at 1:41pm
They should be ashamed of themselves going to court over something so frivolous .

Good to hear that case was thrown out,hope they get caught for the costs.


Posted By: rossieman
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2017 at 1:50pm
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/circuit-court/dropped-footballer-loses-claim-for-post-traumatic-stress-1.3063341" rel="nofollow - http://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/circuit-court/dropped-footballer-loses-claim-for-post-traumatic-stress-1.3063341


Posted By: adineen98
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2017 at 1:51pm
Jesus Christ when more people find out about this it won't be just at matches he's jeered


Posted By: FrankosHereNow
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2017 at 2:28pm
Originally posted by Gary McKay Gary McKay wrote:

Originally posted by FrankosHereNow FrankosHereNow wrote:

I got dropped from my schools team U14 team for smashing up a player from Salesian College. I played against the f**ker the previous Saturday when playing against Celbridge Boys, he nutmugged me, I was still raging.
Wait, you thought, your time will come.
The ball was there, you thought.
BAM, take that you kunt.
 
I did it in 1997, Keane copied me in 2001. I'm a trendsetter.

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Posted By: Paulie
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2017 at 2:28pm
This is up there with the case I read about recently of an 18 year old lad who had, at the age of 14 or 15, sued a driver through his father (took the case in his own name when he reached 18). The lad had been cycling the wrong way round a roundabout and crashed into the side of a stationary car. Thankfully he lost the case.


Posted By: SuperDave84
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2017 at 3:03pm
Seán Ó Donnabháin is basically the worst judge for a case like that, from the kid's point of view. He takes no bullsh*t whatsoever.


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Posted By: FREEWHEELER
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2017 at 3:13pm
It seems the Da was the manager the previous season, making sense now..........fooking stupid dickhead Dad.
 
Sorry for posting elsewhere, rarely I'm in this section!  Soz Sham. LOL Embarrassed


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Posted By: willmcc83
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2017 at 3:15pm
Must be plenty of clubs across the water looking to sign him up now after he took a case against his schoolboy club

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Posted By: Sham157
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2017 at 3:49pm
Originally posted by FREEWHEELER FREEWHEELER wrote:


It seems the Da was the manager the previous season, making sense now..........fooking stupid dickhead Dad.
 
Sorry for posting elsewhere, rarely I'm in this section!  Soz Sham. LOL Embarrassed


Posted By: BigStrongMan
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2017 at 4:22pm
Originally posted by FREEWHEELER FREEWHEELER wrote:


It seems the Da was the manager the previous season, making sense now..........fooking stupid dickhead Dad.
 
Sorry for posting elsewhere, rarely I'm in this section!  Soz Sham. LOL Embarrassed
certainly makes sense now

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Posted By: DUBLIN DOC
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2017 at 6:11pm
Another stupid fckin langer

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Posted By: deise316
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2017 at 8:37pm
Originally posted by ConorMac77 ConorMac77 wrote:

 
As PM said above, if that lad had won the case, there'd be GAA (and soccer and rugby) clubs up and down the country being hit with cases like this with parents queuing up to lodge claims just because their wee 'uns weren't getting a game.
 
It certainly speaks volumes for today's compensation culture that such a case was even considered, never mind taken all the way to Court. Unhappy 

 

To extend that point a bit Conor, it would probably mean the end of sport in the country as we know it, as I doubt any junior football, GAA or Rugby club would have say, 10 grand lying about spare in the event of some judge deciding to take a dropped player's side (although any judge with any bit of sanity could not have taken this fella's side).  

SD mentioned Judge O Donnabhan takes no bullsh*t, but going on his comments, I would say that as well as being a sensible fella in touch with the real world, unlike some of our judiciary, I would guess he also has children and is familiar with some team sport of some description, might have even played (& been dropped) himself at some point.  It seemed he could barely hide his contempt for the case of the plaintiff.

The kid himself isn't really the issue here, this was without doubt driven by his father. I salute the legal lads who took this chap's money, and I hope they got paid upfront, but looking at it, there wasn't a hope in hell this could succeed, I can only presume they decided to run with it as yer man was so determined to sue. I do note that even though bullying was mentioned in the case, they didn't sue the club for bullying, which I would imagine is generally easier to prove than PTSD, therefore you can only assume the legal lads looked at the case & decided the evidence wasn't there to prove bullying & ran with this instead (while laughing away to themselves when yer man left the room).

PTSD is something people usually associate with victims of war, or violent crime, or violent road accidents, it would take a legal fella of considerable skill to persuade anybody, never mind a judge, that getting dropped from a football team constitutes a trauma. 

What did make me laugh though, was when yer man was asked to give examples of PTSD behaviour, said he locked himself in his room, and threw his phone against the wall. This would differentiate him from exactly zero amount of teenagers, something I think the Judge was well aware of. Very hard to get the image of Harry Enfield's Kevin the teenager out of yer head reading that. 

With any luck, this self important idiot will be charged with both legal bills (2 days of 2 barristers & all that goes with it, nice), but it is amazing it got this far in the first place. 






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Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2017 at 9:04pm
Is this Denis O'Brien's son?


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Posted By: ConorMac77
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2017 at 9:22pm
Originally posted by deise316 deise316 wrote:

Originally posted by ConorMac77 ConorMac77 wrote:

 
As PM said above, if that lad had won the case, there'd be GAA (and soccer and rugby) clubs up and down the country being hit with cases like this with parents queuing up to lodge claims just because their wee 'uns weren't getting a game.
 
It certainly speaks volumes for today's compensation culture that such a case was even considered, never mind taken all the way to Court. Unhappy 

 

To extend that point a bit Conor, it would probably mean the end of sport in the country as we know it, as I doubt any junior football, GAA or Rugby club would have say, 10 grand lying about spare in the event of some judge deciding to take a dropped player's side (although any judge with any bit of sanity could not have taken this fella's side).  

SD mentioned Judge O Donnabhan takes no bullsh*t, but going on his comments, I would say that as well as being a sensible fella in touch with the real world, unlike some of our judiciary, I would guess he also has children and is familiar with some team sport of some description, might have even played (& been dropped) himself at some point.  It seemed he could barely hide his contempt for the case of the plaintiff.

The kid himself isn't really the issue here, this was without doubt driven by his father. I salute the legal lads who took this chap's money, and I hope they got paid upfront, but looking at it, there wasn't a hope in hell this could succeed, I can only presume they decided to run with it as yer man was so determined to sue. I do note that even though bullying was mentioned in the case, they didn't sue the club for bullying, which I would imagine is generally easier to prove than PTSD, therefore you can only assume the legal lads looked at the case & decided the evidence wasn't there to prove bullying & ran with this instead (while laughing away to themselves when yer man left the room).

PTSD is something people usually associate with victims of war, or violent crime, or violent road accidents, it would take a legal fella of considerable skill to persuade anybody, never mind a judge, that getting dropped from a football team constitutes a trauma. 

What did make me laugh though, was when yer man was asked to give examples of PTSD behaviour, said he locked himself in his room, and threw his phone against the wall. This would differentiate him from exactly zero amount of teenagers, something I think the Judge was well aware of. Very hard to get the image of Harry Enfield's Kevin the teenager out of yer head reading that. 

With any luck, this self important idiot will be charged with both legal bills (2 days of 2 barristers & all that goes with it, nice), but it is amazing it got this far in the first place. 





Great point re PTSD being associated with genuine traumatic events Deise.

I think the judge was missing a trick by not pointing this out, would surely have put some much needed perspective on this ridiculous case. I would have loved to have seen the lad's and dad's faces if he had.

As you say, the dad certainly deserves to be landed with the legal bills for both sides, I'd love to see his face then!

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Posted By: ShamtheRam
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2017 at 9:18am
I see he's on the books of Waterford now and he was with Ramblers U19s last season but left after one of the neglectful coaches was given the Ramblers 19s jobLOL

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Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2017 at 9:45am
@Healyhack

Young footballer who claimed he got PTSD after club dropped him says case was "never about the money,

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Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2017 at 9:49am
http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/we-wanted-justice-teen-who-lost-his-case-against-football-club-defends-parents-for-taking-legal-action-35662278.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/we-wanted-justice-teen-who-lost-his-case-against-football-club-defends-parents-for-taking-legal-action-35662278.html

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Posted By: FREEWHEELER
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2017 at 10:36am
Justice served?  FFS, they shoulda just hopped in their car and fooked off home, they're an embarrassment.  As the judge so diplomatically said, the father "lacked insight".  I hope he doesn't lack funds.  Gobsh*ttery at its worst.

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Posted By: BabbsBalls
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2017 at 11:48am
An absolute joke .

Unfortunately the society we now live in is top heavy with parents / kids who throw a fit because they don't get what they want. The da should be locked up for defamation of the coach if you ask me .

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Posted By: Hickster74
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2017 at 12:01pm
I don't get why costs are decided at a later date. What's to decide? He brought a ridiculous case and lost. The headlines should include that he's been hit with a bill for 10k or whatever it is to discourage other idiots. 


Posted By: tony grealish
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2017 at 12:26pm
Originally posted by FREEWHEELER FREEWHEELER wrote:

Justice served?  FFS, they shoulda just hopped in their car and fooked off home, they're an embarrassment.  As the judge so diplomatically said, the father "lacked insight".  I hope he doesn't lack funds.  Gobsh*ttery at its worst.


''Not overly blessed with insight'' was how the judge put it.LOL

As someone else already mentioned, these utter fools should be held up as an example and deterrent to similarly minded morons everywhere. Absolute f*cking imbeciles of the highest order.


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Posted By: BabbsBalls
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2017 at 12:30pm
Generation snowflake strikes again .

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Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2017 at 12:34pm
Originally posted by BabbsBalls BabbsBalls wrote:

Generation snowflake strikes again .



Vinny Murphy former Dublin player said something similar this morning

@Vinniedub14

Replying to @Healyhack
@KCsixtyseven Strawberry and snowflake generation need to ripen up. PTSD from being dropped? What's the world coming to?

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Posted By: SuperDave84
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2017 at 1:48pm
Originally posted by Hickster74 Hickster74 wrote:

I don't get why costs are decided at a later date. What's to decide? He brought a ridiculous case and lost. The headlines should include that he's been hit with a bill for 10k or whatever it is to discourage other idiots. 


Gives them a chance to agree costs and avoid another hearing.

If the dad ponies up a few grand between now and the next day, it could be the end of the matter.


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Posted By: Hickster74
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2017 at 2:22pm
Originally posted by SuperDave84 SuperDave84 wrote:

Originally posted by Hickster74 Hickster74 wrote:

I don't get why costs are decided at a later date. What's to decide? He brought a ridiculous case and lost. The headlines should include that he's been hit with a bill for 10k or whatever it is to discourage other idiots. 


Gives them a chance to agree costs and avoid another hearing.

If the dad ponies up a few grand between now and the next day, it could be the end of the matter.
 
It would be good to highlight the hit he takes for being an idiot but we probably won't hear. I can't understand how any self respecting solicitor took on the case in the first place.


Posted By: Gary McKay
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2017 at 2:28pm
Originally posted by Hickster74 Hickster74 wrote:

I can't understand how any self respecting solicitor took on the case in the first place.
His name is Saul Goodman.


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