Attendance Figures 2017
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Topic: Attendance Figures 2017
Posted By: Bitored
Subject: Attendance Figures 2017
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2017 at 7:49pm
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Gameweek 1 ------------- I won the Player of the Century award thanks to the people.Pele was second.He also came second behind Aryton Senna as Brazil's greatest sportsman.The award FIFA gave Pele isn't worth sh*t - Maradona |
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Posted By: Bitored
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2017 at 7:51pm
Week 2
------------- I won the Player of the Century award thanks to the people.Pele was second.He also came second behind Aryton Senna as Brazil's greatest sportsman.The award FIFA gave Pele isn't worth sh*t - Maradona |
Posted By: nvidic
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2017 at 9:53pm
| Happy with ours, very few away fans in that, delighted it was a great game so new faces might come back |
Posted By: Joe Stalin
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 12:38am
Not a bad. Definitely a summer venue so should do better when the weather picks up. |
nvidic wrote:Posted By: Twoinarow
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 9:35am
I thought Shamrock Rovers (as the worlds biggest club) could muster more than 4500 home fans. Not as big as they think  ------------- 2 in a row and we won it in Tallaght |
Posted By: Bob Hoskins
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 11:22am
Sport For Business - with an unusal angle on attendances Watching Irish SoccerPosted on http://sportforbusiness.com/watching-irish-soccer/" rel="nofollow - March 6, 2017
Shamrock Rovers’ biggest attendance since 2011 turned out for their first home game of the season against Bohemians on Friday night. The SSE Airtricity League often gets criticised for small crowds but everything is relative. Take the respective populations of the Republic of Ireland and England into account and you see a different picture. We have multiplied this weekend’s attendance at the Premier League games and multiplied them by a factor of 11.7 to reflect the different populations and this is where each of the 12 teams in the SSE Airticity Premier League compares to their English colleagues. We realise it doesn’t really mean much but population does matter and for the Irish clubs to feature so favourably on a comparative League table is worth bearing in mind before leaping to criticism. SSE Airtricity League attendance thanks to http://www.extratime.ie/articles/18464/league-of-ireland-attendances-2017---gameweek-2/" rel="nofollow - extratime.ie . English Premier League attendance thanks to soccerstats.com ------------- Romario 2016: And the ticket mafia gets caught! Well, four years ago I had already told the government. |
Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 12:22pm
That may be the most pointless thing I have ever seen and a very bizarre way of thinking. Back in reality, appalling crowd from City, first home game of the season for league runner's-up and cup winners and the ground is half empty. ------------- Greed has won, big finance has won. Whatever small role elite clubs still play in the local communities from which they grew is dwarfed now by their position as global brands. |
Posted By: ccfcmurphy
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 12:33pm
Half the county was flooded and the game was in doubt all day , good crowd in those circumstances with many bigger crowds to come from the best supported team in the league ------------- There's no point being the richest man in the graveyard |
Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 1:00pm
Half the county? I think that would be classified as biblical. The weather had an effect but given people still made it to the game from 30 and 40 miles away I think it is appalling, as is the case with most attendances. ------------- Greed has won, big finance has won. Whatever small role elite clubs still play in the local communities from which they grew is dwarfed now by their position as global brands. |
Posted By: thebronze14
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 1:06pm
Not a bad attendence tbh.
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Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 1:12pm
If the biggest derby in Irish football in an area with a population of around a million and a people can't sell out a 6k stadium at the start of the season then something is wrong. I'm not having a dig at you here Bronze, but I think that problem is expectations are so low. Everywhere there are comments calling it a good attendance when anything less than a full house should be seen as a disaster. ------------- Greed has won, big finance has won. Whatever small role elite clubs still play in the local communities from which they grew is dwarfed now by their position as global brands. |
Posted By: Twoinarow
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 1:12pm
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Dundalk 1 in every 7.97 people attended our first home game Cork 1 in every 35.75 people attended their first home game But you keep telling yourself Cork have the best support, For a City your size, you should easily be getting more than 5000 every week ------------- 2 in a row and we won it in Tallaght |
Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 1:22pm
I think 5000 is conservative but you are correct. Cheers to Bitored for the figures.
------------- Greed has won, big finance has won. Whatever small role elite clubs still play in the local communities from which they grew is dwarfed now by their position as global brands. |
Posted By: ccfcmurphy
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 1:27pm
The thing is that we had that support when we were in the first division , That 1 in every 7.97 is nothing other than a band waggon statistic Enjoy the good days while ye have them ------------- There's no point being the richest man in the graveyard |
Posted By: Bitored
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 1:50pm
I think that's a fair statement. Its the same as the old "its a good LOI ground", which essentially means it wouldn't be up to standard in the majority of leagues around Europe but expectations are so low there`s no such thing as stadia requirements. Every club in the PD should be averaging a minimum of 1k every week but we`re a long way from that. ------------- I won the Player of the Century award thanks to the people.Pele was second.He also came second behind Aryton Senna as Brazil's greatest sportsman.The award FIFA gave Pele isn't worth sh*t - Maradona |
Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 2:02pm
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Call it a bandwagon statistic all you like, the issue isn't with Dundalk and nor should it be, Cork airport is being kept open by fellas going to Liverpool, Manchester and London, the interest in football in Ireland is one of the highest in Europe and yet the ground sells out a handful of times a decade. That means that what ever is being done isn't good enough. Bitored; It just appears that way to me, my first instinct when I saw the crowd was why didn't it sell-out? Most fans of Shamrock seemed to be delighted to have 'a big crowd', hopefully the people responsible didn't.
------------- Greed has won, big finance has won. Whatever small role elite clubs still play in the local communities from which they grew is dwarfed now by their position as global brands. |
Posted By: SteveEvans
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 2:54pm
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Lads out of interest why do ye think that attendances have been so low in recent year? With the standard of football getting better every year one would think that attendances would increase, especially the exposure the league got with Dundalks European run. On top of this, what do you think clubs could be doing in order to increase attendances each week?
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Posted By: GUFC_Andy
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 2:58pm
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Posted By: Twoinarow
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 3:17pm
had a look over on foot.ie of old attendances, and your average in the FD was in and around the same as our average in the FD. ------------- 2 in a row and we won it in Tallaght |
Posted By: Bitored
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 3:48pm
Its not just in recent years that attendances have been poor. Around the early 00s wages were being thrown around like confetti. You had genuine international calibre players like Jason Byrne, Glen Crowe, Jo Ndo etc. The first 2 were consistently in and around Ireland squads and Jo Ndo was part of 2 Cameron World cup squads. The product was about as high as it could get. Yet the attendances didn't budge. So the attendances didn't justify the wages and most of the league went bust. You can point to the usual culprits like our proximity to the EPL, GAA, Rugby etc. But even the GAA`s attendances are in decline. There isn't the same culture of going to games that is even in Scotland where for the most part they are watching similar fare to what`s on offer in the LOI. Saying that, there`s plenty that can be done that`s not being done or not on a consistent basis anyway.
For me, social media is the key. Its free and its very easy to get to a huge target audience in 3 touches or less of your phone. While some clubs are using it well some don't even have functioning Twitter or Facebook pages. It should be a licensing requirement to have regular social media updates. It doesn't take a lot to video a bit of a training session and throw it up online but that kind of stuff coupled with give aways and sponsors promotions keeps fans checking in and they`ll see when the next match is on too. I hear clubs going on about distributing 1000s of fliers, its caveman stuff. The most of these fliers go into the bin 2 seconds after they are given out along with the ones for the local Chinese. Sligo are putting on a bingo night at the beginning of April and the prize fund is 20k. I saw a flier on the wall of the local post office but it was simply because I`d be looking out for Rovers stuff that I saw it. It was completely lost on a message board wedged between fliers from Paddy selling bags of turf to Mick looking for his lost dog. I think people who look down on the league with scorn are lost to it. When I'm asked what club I follow and I reply Sligo Rovers, I get the response "oh you`re one of them" or "No, who do you really follow?" as in what Sky franchise do I follow. Forget about getting them to go to LOI games. LOI clubs should be targeting schools. Again, clubs are patchy in this area. There should be a weekly designated LOI schools day where every league club heads to a local school and puts on training sessions, photo shoots and upload it all on to social media. Imagine a stream of pictures of LOI school visits flooding social media every Monday or Tuesday? Cheap as chips to do but great for the leagues image. Kids remember that stuff and they tell everyone they know how Cork City, Sligo Rovers or Cobh Ramblers were in school today and they go home to their parents and bug them to bring them to a game. Facilities also remain an issue. Its a big ask to ask a family to pay E50+ to go to a game when there aren't functioning toilets or sheltered areas in some grounds. The PD really should be the flag ship, places like Mcginn Park, Finn Park, United Park aren't up to standard and simply shouldn't be accepted as PD grounds. I know that would leave the clubs in a precarious position but it just isn't good enough when lights blow because the generator isn't capable of powering floodlights and the local chip van or there`s 6 inches of piss from the toilets flooding out the door or worse still boundary walls collapse. Marketing has to be on a national basis with clubs tapping into it. I like the bill board initiative from Airtricity but they really aren't doing enough as sponsors when compared to what Lidl have done for women`s GAA football. Why can`t Airtricity run a TV campaign like Lidl did? A way to ensure players leaving here command good transfer fees needs to be sorted out. Just in the last window a million euro of talent walked out of the league with Horgan and Boyle alone. Then there`s the pittances that were received for Forrester, Coleman, Doyle et.al. 3% of LOI clubs income comes from transfer fees while in Bosnia, a country with a similar population to ours, 30% of their income comes from player transfers. https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2017/0113/844671-league-of-ireland/" rel="nofollow - https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2017/0113/844671-league-of-ireland/ Of course all of that needs to be co-ordinated from the top and templates and supports handed down. That's just not happening at the moment. ------------- I won the Player of the Century award thanks to the people.Pele was second.He also came second behind Aryton Senna as Brazil's greatest sportsman.The award FIFA gave Pele isn't worth sh*t - Maradona |
Posted By: Cabra Hoop
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 4:03pm
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The way Sligo are going their figure for attendances will be less than their figure for goals conceded...... ------------- " BFC always gives me a laugh........ " |
Posted By: ccfcmurphy
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 4:07pm
I find that hard to believe as ye all supported Drogheda back then ------------- There's no point being the richest man in the graveyard |
Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 4:14pm
Firstly, I am not so sure that the standard is getting better, Dundalk did exceptionally well in Europe but they were one team with some exceptional players, by the league's standards. Cork City have been reasonably strong too and made a rivalry with Dundalk but after that the gap was quite large. For the most part the standard has probably dipped, I think the period that followed the introduction of summer was probably the peak in terms of overall standard. As for the reasons behind low attendances, there are so many that it is hard to pinpoint which are the most relevant. I will get the FAI out of the way first, I don't like laying the blame for everything on their door but I think some clubs do and see them as a get out clause for their own failings. The FAI themselves don't do enough to change the perception of the league, in fact they often make a mockery of it; see Gabay, Jonathan. I do think reducing the CEO of the associations salary and tacking it on to the league's prize money could only improve the perception. While we are on the subject of the FAI it is worth mentioning that the league seems to lack a coherent marketing strategy for the game in the country. While clubs have to do more themselves, I will come back to that, again I feel the need to mention Mr Gabay, there doesn't seem to be any united focus on improving how the game is viewed. I do understand their difficulties when competing with Rugby and GAA, sports that have all their national heroes playing domestically but more must be done. It certainly isn't an easy task but it must be undertaken and , at the moment, it isn't. Television is another issue. Most games that are shown on RTE feel as if it is a chore to broadcast them, not to mention the amateurish production of the highlights show shown at unsuitable times. I think the FAI should be using the national team games as a leverage when dealing with the state broadcaster and insist that these things be put right. Eir sports is an amateur outfit so I won't even bother there! Other personal bugbears with the Irish medi, that are sure to have an affect on the public mindset, are things like news reports listing English and Scottish fixtures before Irish games, the need to over analyse every time some lads in Phibsborough or Tallaght decide to throw some shapes and the difficulty finding a match report in the broadsheets. I would also love to see the League covered by a newspaper in the same manner as the Daily Record covers the Scottish game, unfortunately it will never happen. I think one of the biggest issues, certainly the most difficult to change, is cultural. I don't want to go down the lazy route by saying Ireland is a nation of 'event junkies' but there just isn't the culture of following a team, in any sport, week-in and week-out. It stems from the historical importance of the GAA, of a trip to Anfield/Old Trafford/Ashburton Grove once or twice a year. It is why the Heineken/H/'European' cup took off in rugby. If Cork and Dundalk are battling it out at the top of the table there will be another full house at Turners Cross, no matter what the result the crowd will drop by nearly half for the next home game. Compare that to teams from towns and areas of similar population in England and Scotland where they hold a regular attendance that isn't reliant on success. For example Leyton Orient, who are in the middle of an awful run on and off the pitch, had a slightly higher attendance at their last home game than they averaged when chasing the playoff places a division above. I am still not sure if Friday nights are the best time for matches, although I do understand that this is very much a personal opinion. One reason I feel this is the lack of opportunity for away fans to travel. Larger away followings to places, particularly outside Dublin, would leave everybody in the town know there is a game on and creates free awareness. I am living in a town in England with a population of around 100k, on Saturday there was 1500 away fans about from early in the morning, the whole town knew there was a game without any need for extra promotion. When you follow your team away in the league of Ireland the locals often think you are mad! That is back to the cultural issue above though. I do think Saturday evenings at 7.30/8.00 are more suited to football. It seems to work relatively well for Sligo Rovers. Finally I come to the clubs themselves. For too long players wages were put above facilities which has been the ultimate case of putting the cart before the horse. Everything from bad toilets and rubbish food can be thrown at nearly every club over the past decade, taking the regular fan for granted and putting off the casual fan from becoming one. I am not sure how big the impact of this has been but some of the issues were quite easy to put right. The fact that Bohs were sneered at for trying to improve the food and drink options available does show the attitude within the league to this sort of thing! I enjoy crumbling grounds and the smell of boiled burgers and piss but it isn't going to be everybody's cup of tea! The clubs too have had marketing men and PR men employed for years and it hasn't borne out in attendance or in the public imagination, perhaps someone who works for a club can explain why this is, is there too many barriers? Are their hands tied? Do clubs get the right people in for these roles? Where I would be most critical is how trite and repetitive a lot of the PR is from clubs, there seems to be a lack of novel ideas and an acceptance that it is easier to blame the FAI.
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Posted By: GoneToShowgies
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 4:21pm
It is something different and the club have been promoting it over all media platforms lately. And will do when it gets closer to the event as well. But you'd didn't mention that and preferred to have a go.
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Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 4:25pm
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Sorry BOR, I hadn't seen your post and I merely echoed a lot of your points. ------------- Greed has won, big finance has won. Whatever small role elite clubs still play in the local communities from which they grew is dwarfed now by their position as global brands. |
Posted By: Bitored
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 4:44pm
No need to be so sensitive I'm not having a go. I was just pointing out the worthlessness of fliers. ------------- I won the Player of the Century award thanks to the people.Pele was second.He also came second behind Aryton Senna as Brazil's greatest sportsman.The award FIFA gave Pele isn't worth sh*t - Maradona |
Posted By: Bitored
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 4:54pm
No harm at all  Few very good points in yours I hadn't thought of------------- I won the Player of the Century award thanks to the people.Pele was second.He also came second behind Aryton Senna as Brazil's greatest sportsman.The award FIFA gave Pele isn't worth sh*t - Maradona |
Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 4:59pm
Was trying to avoid mentioning specific clubs too much, for the very reasons you got pulled up on! 'But my club.....can't do anymore.......blah,blah, blah' ------------- Greed has won, big finance has won. Whatever small role elite clubs still play in the local communities from which they grew is dwarfed now by their position as global brands. |
Posted By: Borussia
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 5:01pm
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I think the schools point is a really good one. I know Rovers now have Graham Gartland working in a community role so I'd be hoping that working in schools will help to drive the next generation of fans. For me, although I would class myself anything but a die-hard, the reason I started following Rovers as a kid was partly because they were successful and on TV a lot I suppose, but more so down to the fact that they used to come to my home town during the annual festival to play a 7-a-side exhibition on the beach so I had some sort of connection.
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Posted By: Butch
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 5:13pm
| It will be interesting to see Rovers next home game attendance figures . Plenty of young lads at the game out in Tallaght and I was surprised . Maybe it's a good sign for the future . I look forward to heading back out . Not sure when I'd make another game but Rovers v Cork on the 17th in tempting . Might even go in the away end and mix with the real capital of Ireland's people |
Posted By: OnTheOneRoad
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 5:35pm
Hopefully we'll get a good crowd this Friday against Bray and the opening day crowd against Derry wasnt just because it was the opening day, or people wont be turned off by two disappointing results. On the plus side there are no sh*t games for us this year as the games that youd sometimes term 'uninspiring' are actually 6 pointers now 
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Posted By: Bitored
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 8:41pm
Yup, I take the time to write out a reply to someone's question and someone else picks one line from it so they can feel offended. My own fault really, I'm on here long enough to know better.
------------- I won the Player of the Century award thanks to the people.Pele was second.He also came second behind Aryton Senna as Brazil's greatest sportsman.The award FIFA gave Pele isn't worth sh*t - Maradona |
Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2017 at 4:58pm
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Was there an official figure given for Buncrana? ------------- Greed has won, big finance has won. Whatever small role elite clubs still play in the local communities from which they grew is dwarfed now by their position as global brands. |
Posted By: AnCearrbhach
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2017 at 5:12pm
It was a sell out, unfortunately the capacity was only ------------- Aithníonn ciaróg ciaróg eile. |
Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2017 at 5:22pm
Online figures say capacity is 2500? Is that just an estimate? ------------- Greed has won, big finance has won. Whatever small role elite clubs still play in the local communities from which they grew is dwarfed now by their position as global brands. |
Posted By: AnCearrbhach
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2017 at 5:27pm
That information was second hand actually and doesn't seem to have any evidence backing it up  Seems no official attendance was given. ------------- Aithníonn ciaróg ciaróg eile. |
Posted By: PanteirA
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2017 at 9:25pm
| I am sure they said over 2000 last night on S Republic but sure what the f**k do they know. |
Posted By: Butch
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2017 at 10:00am
Must have been all the green and white hoops .... |
Posted By: Bitored
Date Posted: 15 Mar 2017 at 10:04pm
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Week 3 Drogheda V Cork - 1,050 Dundalk V Limerick - 3,286 Shams V Derry - 3,251 Bohs V Bray - 1,505 Sligo Rovers V Pats - 1,087 Finn Harps V Galway - 1,022 Cobh V Shels - 417 Athlone V Longford - 380 Cabinteely V Wexford - 346 UCD V Waterford - 259 27% drop in attendances since game week 1. ------------- I won the Player of the Century award thanks to the people.Pele was second.He also came second behind Aryton Senna as Brazil's greatest sportsman.The award FIFA gave Pele isn't worth sh*t - Maradona |
Posted By: Bitored
Date Posted: 15 Mar 2017 at 10:16pm
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Week 4 Pats v Harps - 895 Bray v Drogs - 638 Derry v Dundalk - 1550 Cork v Sligo Rovers - 2,722 Limerick V Bohs - 1,760 (apparently didn't scan some tickets, could be 2k+) Shams V Galway - 1051 If first division figures come out I`ll put them up.
------------- I won the Player of the Century award thanks to the people.Pele was second.He also came second behind Aryton Senna as Brazil's greatest sportsman.The award FIFA gave Pele isn't worth sh*t - Maradona |
Posted By: PanteirA
Date Posted: 15 Mar 2017 at 10:22pm
| Beyond depressing looking at that |
Posted By: Stillhuntinghenry
Date Posted: 15 Mar 2017 at 11:57pm
Remember we were sold out and at capacity. We'd usually doubled that for such a game in brandywell ------------- "Not one cent" - RTID on Mark Quigley's pay-off from Shamrock |
Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2017 at 12:03am
Depressing, especially from City. ------------- Greed has won, big finance has won. Whatever small role elite clubs still play in the local communities from which they grew is dwarfed now by their position as global brands. |
Posted By: ccfcmurphy
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2017 at 9:24am
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Week 3 was on at the same time as the Ireland wales Rugby Week 4 was on a Monday night and collided with Chelsea vs United We are a bandwagon nation and things like this dramatically affect attendances but I think the crowds will grow from here on ------------- There's no point being the richest man in the graveyard |
Posted By: AnCearrbhach
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2017 at 9:30am
Good chance there will be 7k at City's next home game so I wouldn't be too worried. Historically speaking that's a good crowd for a Monday night not even factoring in the FA Cup game. Doesn't mean we should pat ourselves on the back or anything but hardly a disaster either. ------------- Aithníonn ciaróg ciaróg eile. |
Posted By: Bitored
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2017 at 9:44am
If that's a good crowd, I`d hate to see a bad one! Picking out the meeting between the top 2 sides and praising the fact there`ll be a big crowd at it is pure nonsense. Its the top 2 sides who will most likely be fighting it out for the title, if the crowd wasn't healthy then just forget about it. There`s a couple of games this weekend in the PD that I can see struggling to break 1k. Its poor in the 3 rd/ 4th week of the league even if you tar it with the old "a good LOI crowd" crap. ------------- I won the Player of the Century award thanks to the people.Pele was second.He also came second behind Aryton Senna as Brazil's greatest sportsman.The award FIFA gave Pele isn't worth sh*t - Maradona |
Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2017 at 1:46pm
Absolutely spot on. There will be 7k at the next home game and 3k at the one after it. ------------- Greed has won, big finance has won. Whatever small role elite clubs still play in the local communities from which they grew is dwarfed now by their position as global brands. |
Posted By: roverstillidie
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2017 at 12:18pm
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3 out of the 4 biggest crowds so fare were Rovers. Just saying etc. ------------- He is Karl Pilkington in the LOI section and Karl Marx outwith it |
Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2017 at 12:21pm
You couldn't sell out a derby on the second night of the season ffs. Put the rod away. ------------- Greed has won, big finance has won. Whatever small role elite clubs still play in the local communities from which they grew is dwarfed now by their position as global brands. |
Posted By: roverstillidie
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2017 at 8:34pm
------------- He is Karl Pilkington in the LOI section and Karl Marx outwith it |
Posted By: Los Aros
Date Posted: 18 Mar 2017 at 8:09pm
| 2,675 at the dundalk match. |
Posted By: Bitored
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2017 at 1:48am
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Week 5 Dundalk v Pats - 2,675 Limerick v Harps - 1,186 Bohs V Galway - 1,137 Shams V Cork - 3,045 Sligo Rovers V Bray - 1,387 Derry V Drogheda - 1500 (couldn't find a figure but I'm going to assume in their current form they sold out or near enough) Cobh V Athlone - 400 (estimate) Shels V Waterford - 422 FD figures are hard to come by as unlike the PD clubs they tend not to report their attendances so you get the likes of extra time putting up estimates which are usually generous. I`d assume the rest are anywhere from 50-400. ------------- I won the Player of the Century award thanks to the people.Pele was second.He also came second behind Aryton Senna as Brazil's greatest sportsman.The award FIFA gave Pele isn't worth sh*t - Maradona |
Posted By: thebronze14
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2017 at 11:18pm
| Work is restarting on our new stadium in the next few months...Better news again that there is going to be terracing behind either goal. Due to be completed for 2019 season. Let's hope we can finally get there! |
Posted By: Bitored
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2017 at 11:20pm
Not trying to piss on your parade, but how many times has work "restarted" at this stage? I`ll believe it when I see it.
------------- I won the Player of the Century award thanks to the people.Pele was second.He also came second behind Aryton Senna as Brazil's greatest sportsman.The award FIFA gave Pele isn't worth sh*t - Maradona |
Posted By: roverstillidie
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2017 at 7:50am
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4 from 5 ------------- He is Karl Pilkington in the LOI section and Karl Marx outwith it |
Posted By: DUBLIN DOC
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2017 at 8:59am
------------- When all is said and done there is nothing left to say or do |
Posted By: thebronze14
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2017 at 2:00pm
Good point
It's a little bit of hope though that we haven't had the past two years! |
Posted By: skinnymalinx
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2017 at 8:26pm
the other boez fans wont take kindly to you talking about Keith Long like that! ------------- beware the ides of march |
Posted By: DUBLIN DOC
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2017 at 8:38pm
 ,skinny tillidie i am talking about our manager Bradser------------- When all is said and done there is nothing left to say or do |
Posted By: roverstillidie
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2017 at 8:08am
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Another suicide run... ------------- He is Karl Pilkington in the LOI section and Karl Marx outwith it |
Posted By: DUBLIN DOC
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2017 at 8:45am
------------- When all is said and done there is nothing left to say or do |
Posted By: roverstillidie
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2017 at 10:59am
------------- He is Karl Pilkington in the LOI section and Karl Marx outwith it |
Posted By: Sham157
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2017 at 11:07am
| Both of you knock this on the head lads. Attendance figures, not mickey measuring. |
Posted By: kevincronin2000
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2017 at 11:10am
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Any way biggest attendance of the season will be at Turners Cross Tomorrow. ------------- time is the stuff that life is made of, don't waste it. |
Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2017 at 11:30am
As it should be, it is filling it again for Derry should be the target. ------------- Greed has won, big finance has won. Whatever small role elite clubs still play in the local communities from which they grew is dwarfed now by their position as global brands. |
Posted By: adineen98
Date Posted: 25 Mar 2017 at 8:20pm
| 6746 at Turners Cross today |
Posted By: oldbilly
Date Posted: 25 Mar 2017 at 8:36pm
| Wagons rollin down by the lee it seems!fair play,great to see them coming out,better than watching that absolute rubbish served up by the young millionaires at the insurance arena last evening.long may you get them in i wish dublins northside could love the bohs to the same level. |
Posted By: Yellow Belly
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2017 at 12:06am
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[QUOTE=oldbilly] Wagons rollin down by the lee it seems!fair play,great to see them coming out,better than watching that absolute rubbish served up by the young millionaires at the insurance arena last evening.long may you get them in i wish dublins northside could love the bohs to the same level. Well said couldn't have put it better that was some sh*t to watch Last night and they make a joke of LOI. ------------- get me out of hear |
Posted By: deise316
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2017 at 6:01am
Aye lads, please find it in yer hearts to forgive us for going to watch our country play, each & every one of the 55,000 idiots of us. No doubt the 2 of ye would have far preferred the LOI schedule to go ahead on Friday night instead of Saturday, so ye could congratulate yerselves on yer loyalty to yer respective teams. Might not suit yer narrative, but there were many lads & ladies in the insurance arena on Friday who also went to Turners Cross, Richmond Park, the RSC, Carlisle grounds etc this evening. Even up to & including Bohs fans, who no doubt enjoyed their excellent victory in Drogheda. ------------- Picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue..... |
Posted By: oldbilly
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2017 at 8:58am
| Not criticising the mug punters who turned up expecting a high standard,but the game itself,which was a huge let down.we had a chance to put a foot in the door of a major finals and bottled it.again.and i include meself in the mug category btw. |
Posted By: DUBLIN DOC
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2017 at 10:53am
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Bradley has to go, wrong man wrong job, the attendance's will fall and quickly at SDCC stadium, a lot of the lads i was with last night at junkieville are not happy with how this is panning out, only a matter of time now before we let bradser know his fate ------------- When all is said and done there is nothing left to say or do |
Posted By: skinnymalinx
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2017 at 2:08pm
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Shut up you utter dick. ------------- beware the ides of march |
Posted By: DUBLIN DOC
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2017 at 2:13pm
------------- When all is said and done there is nothing left to say or do |
Posted By: Bitored
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2017 at 2:44pm
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Take this Shams sh1te to the thread. You don't need to be mystic meg to know what's going to happen to Bradley. ------------- I won the Player of the Century award thanks to the people.Pele was second.He also came second behind Aryton Senna as Brazil's greatest sportsman.The award FIFA gave Pele isn't worth sh*t - Maradona |
Posted By: Bitored
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2017 at 3:08pm
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Week 6 Premier DivisionCork V Dundalk - 6,746 Bohs V Drogheda - 800 Bray V Limerick - 649 Pats V Shams - 2,000 (est) Harps V Sligo - 1,751 First Division Waterford V Wexford - 1,647 UCD V Longford - 80 (est) Cabinteely V Cobh - 175 (est) Athlone V Shelbourne - 150 (est)
------------- I won the Player of the Century award thanks to the people.Pele was second.He also came second behind Aryton Senna as Brazil's greatest sportsman.The award FIFA gave Pele isn't worth sh*t - Maradona |
Posted By: Daragho
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2017 at 4:39pm
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80 estimate at UCD? Jaysus, I'm surprised someone didn't go around and count them by hand. I don't understand why Pats don't release official figures. They're available, because all tickets are scanned electronically.
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Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2017 at 5:02pm
Embarrassment? ------------- Greed has won, big finance has won. Whatever small role elite clubs still play in the local communities from which they grew is dwarfed now by their position as global brands. |
Posted By: Bitored
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2017 at 5:14pm
Your probably right. Even though I wasn't at the game, going on past experience I`d be surprised if Pats got 2k in. Even during the league winning season they rarely topped 1500. As for UCD, they`re attendances are always topped up by traveling support. Longford don't have a traveling support so you get crowds of below 100. I`ve no idea how FD clubs stay operational on those crowds. Considering some will be season ticket holders, 100-200 people going to games is probably around E1000 from the gate. That wouldn't even cover match night costs. Never mind pay playing staffs wages/expenses. ------------- I won the Player of the Century award thanks to the people.Pele was second.He also came second behind Aryton Senna as Brazil's greatest sportsman.The award FIFA gave Pele isn't worth sh*t - Maradona |
Posted By: Butch
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2017 at 5:14pm
I heard that the 80 at the UCD bowl were the remains of a can drinking session held there the night before discussing the return of the Celtic Tiger |
Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2017 at 5:20pm
I would imagine if 2000 were there then Shams would have had a fair few there. UCD is a pretty big university, surely they can attract a few hundred of them on a Friday night? Or move it to a night that will attract them. ------------- Greed has won, big finance has won. Whatever small role elite clubs still play in the local communities from which they grew is dwarfed now by their position as global brands. |
Posted By: Bitored
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2017 at 5:48pm
But that's always been the problem with UCD. I don't think it matters what day it is on. While UCD is a big college the majority of the students come from outside of the South Dublin area. Any LOI fan going to UCD most likely has a club they follow. I think UCD have contributed a hell of a lot to the league in terms of player development and their college/sports partnership programme is a model every club in the league should look to follow. They are also the most stable club in the league. There could be a nuclear winter and UCD would still be playing football in the bowl. My own view is there should have been a strategic plan drawn up around the time Cabinteely were looking to get into the league. Have a partnership of Cabinteely/UCD and possibly 1 or 2 more big schoolboy clubs along the lines of what Galway did with giving Mervue and Salthill a stake in the club. The club could either play out of the Bowl or somewhere like Donnybrook Stadium and really go after the population in South Dublin. That didn't/wont happen of course. ------------- I won the Player of the Century award thanks to the people.Pele was second.He also came second behind Aryton Senna as Brazil's greatest sportsman.The award FIFA gave Pele isn't worth sh*t - Maradona |
Posted By: corkery
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2017 at 6:00pm
It would be a disaster if UCD got promoted. It would be three teams down and nobody coming up. |
Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2017 at 6:24pm
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I agree regarding UCD Bitored, they are definitely the best ran club in the league, they must be the only club that has never had a financial worry, but surely they can get more than a 100 people to watch them! They have 30,000 students plus staff and alumni, I don't think it is unrealistic to think they could attract a few hundred more to their games. ------------- Greed has won, big finance has won. Whatever small role elite clubs still play in the local communities from which they grew is dwarfed now by their position as global brands. |
Posted By: roverstillidie
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2017 at 7:25pm
------------- He is Karl Pilkington in the LOI section and Karl Marx outwith it |
Posted By: trevwaterford
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2017 at 7:37pm
| Great crowd at the RSC last night. We had an average of just over 300 last season so fans are coming back in big numbers since the takeover and rebranding in the off season. |
Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2017 at 7:42pm
I have a feeling you will be taking another break.......... ------------- Greed has won, big finance has won. Whatever small role elite clubs still play in the local communities from which they grew is dwarfed now by their position as global brands. |
Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2017 at 7:43pm
Good to see they are getting behind the new club, for the moment at least. ------------- Greed has won, big finance has won. Whatever small role elite clubs still play in the local communities from which they grew is dwarfed now by their position as global brands. |
Posted By: DUBLIN DOC
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2017 at 9:12pm
------------- When all is said and done there is nothing left to say or do |
Posted By: zizu Kilbane
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2017 at 10:53pm
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How are Bray basically full time when they're only getting 650 through the gates? ------------- "Sometimes, sh*t happens, someone's gotta deal with it, and who ya gonna call?" |
Posted By: Bitored
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2017 at 11:48pm
The Carlisle Ground site is prime seafront real estate, if the owners can just manage to shift that pesky football club. So in a way small crowds are very good for them. ------------- I won the Player of the Century award thanks to the people.Pele was second.He also came second behind Aryton Senna as Brazil's greatest sportsman.The award FIFA gave Pele isn't worth sh*t - Maradona |
Posted By: roverstillidie
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2017 at 12:56am
------------- He is Karl Pilkington in the LOI section and Karl Marx outwith it |
Posted By: Bitored
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2017 at 2:22am
I agree with you but like I`ve said I can see why they have problems. Its not as simple as saying there`s a catchment area of 30,000 they should be getting guaranteed semi decent crowds. Sporting Fingal, Dublin City, Kildare, Kilkenny et.al operated on a similar assumption and went tits up. A club is a community and its very difficult to form a community in a college where many of those 30,000 are from outside the area/country, some are distance learners, some are part time, some commute into Belfield from all over the commuter belt, some are on work experience, some have zero interest in the LOI and never will etc. I think if UCD operated in a league where there were teams with star quality they may do better. But the league just doesn't have the a big name/appeal to significantly boost the attendances of a collegiate side. As I`ve said already, in my view the best thing for UCD and the league would be if UCD and Cabinteely formed a co-op side in partnership with 2 or 3 big south side junior clubs. A platform they could use to represent the south side of Dublin, which despite the saturation of Dublin clubs remains underrepresented. That makes more sense to me than Cabinteely and UCD playing in front of no one. No reason UCD couldn't maintain a FD side and their current U15,U17 and U19 sides and continue the great work they do bringing though quality players. That kind of strategic thinking just isn't in the league and we`re set up for another scramble in the not too distant future when the next club goes to the wall and there`s a mad dash to see does any other Dublin junior club fancy a few years in the LOI. ------------- I won the Player of the Century award thanks to the people.Pele was second.He also came second behind Aryton Senna as Brazil's greatest sportsman.The award FIFA gave Pele isn't worth sh*t - Maradona |
Posted By: Daragho
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2017 at 10:35am
They're hardly alone there, though. I know Pats crowds have been poor for some time but if you bury your head in the sand and pretend you don't have a problem then you're not going to fix it.
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Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2017 at 1:18pm
I think the situation was different for at least three of the four clubs mentioned, they were just pop-up franchises that were doomed to failure from the beginning, Kilkenny being the only one mentioned that had grown organically and the only one that was a shame to see fold up. I don't think UCD should be guaranteed any crowd but if they work at it they could get decent crowds. I know a lot of Cork City's hardcore fans down the years have been UCC students who enjoyed a trip to the Cross with no expectations, why couldn't they do the same with their own? Lots of people have an allegiance to their college side and I would be certain that they would have far bigger crowds at Collingwood Cup games than LOI fixtures. It just seems that because they don't really need the ticket money desperately that they are not bothered by it. I wasn't in favour of Cabinteely joining the league, I hate this idea of selecting a team from nowhere and the inevitable messy end but some sort of link-up would probably work well for both teams alright. ------------- Greed has won, big finance has won. Whatever small role elite clubs still play in the local communities from which they grew is dwarfed now by their position as global brands. |
Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2017 at 1:19pm
That could be the league's mantra though. ------------- Greed has won, big finance has won. Whatever small role elite clubs still play in the local communities from which they grew is dwarfed now by their position as global brands. |
Posted By: wanderer
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2017 at 1:20pm
| Much more than 650 at Bray. sounds like a made up figure |
Posted By: gspain
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2017 at 2:49pm
It was announced over the PA. I thought it was 641 that was announced but maybe I misheard as someone has claimed 649. I reckon we had the guts of 150 too of that. The board appear to have invested serious money in the current Bray squad. Some of the claims on here re property plays etc just don't make sense. They clearly are trying to build a successful squad.
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Posted By: Bitored
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2017 at 3:48pm
In the absence of a pyramid structure every club in this league is a franchise club. If you actually go through the history of clubs in the league you`ll find they've dissolved and reformed on multiple occasions. It goes under the radar because years ago it used to be much more simple to dissolve a holding company than it is today. Some clubs have switched to entirely different areas to where they were originally based. Many clubs are simply claiming the trophies and history of clubs they have tentative connections with at best. In it`s near 100 year history the league hasn't made much inroads out of its geographical heartlands. That all sounds very like a franchise to me. I think I`d disagree Kilkenny grew organically, they were parachuting in a lot of outsiders and very few of their players lived locally. Listen I'm no expert on UCD`s marketing strategy. They`ve always struggled with crowds even when they were in the PD. Its a big ask to sell LOI football to students when they have the option of getting drunk and stoned. ------------- I won the Player of the Century award thanks to the people.Pele was second.He also came second behind Aryton Senna as Brazil's greatest sportsman.The award FIFA gave Pele isn't worth sh*t - Maradona |
Posted By: Bitored
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2017 at 3:54pm
The claims on here about property development are based in reality. A few months back the owners released their strategic plan and moving out of the Carlisle Grounds/Bray Town was specifically mentioned and in some detail too. Subsequently, the council had a meeting with the Bray owners and they pulled their necks back in but make no mistake about it, its a property grab.
------------- I won the Player of the Century award thanks to the people.Pele was second.He also came second behind Aryton Senna as Brazil's greatest sportsman.The award FIFA gave Pele isn't worth sh*t - Maradona |
Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2017 at 3:57pm
I agree with a lot of that, just when I say Kilkenny grew organically I mean they were created as EMFA as a local club that grew stronger, unfortunately they were probably never managed right when they made LOI level but it was certainly a more natural way for a club to exist than Sporting Fingal or Dublin City. I just don't thin UCD have a marketing strategy as they don't feel they need one. They are not reliant on getting people through the gate the way other clubs in the league are so they don't really bother. I could be a million miles off here, I am sure a UCD fan or student can tell me what they have done to increase crowds if I am wrong. ------------- Greed has won, big finance has won. Whatever small role elite clubs still play in the local communities from which they grew is dwarfed now by their position as global brands. |