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Topic: Euro 2024 Germany
Posted By: newrynyuk
Subject: Euro 2024 Germany
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2017 at 8:16pm
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German FA have announced their intention to bid for the hosting of Euro 2014:-
http://www.dfb.de/en/news/detail/dfb-will-bid-to-host-euro-2024-160773/" rel="nofollow - http://www.dfb.de/en/news/detail/dfb-will-bid-to-host-euro-2024-160773/ UEFA won't decide until September next year. But let's face it, game over. Euro 2024 will be in Germany. And rightly so. |
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Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2017 at 8:22pm
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Yup,Germans backed the Wembley bid for the semis and final in return for England not bidding for 2024 ------------- Eamonn Dunphy:"I'll tell you who wrote it, Rod Liddle, he's the guy who ran away and left his wife for a young one". Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn |
Posted By: deise316
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2017 at 8:23pm
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With the 48 team Euros, there won't be many other countries even able to host it on their own, France just did, England or UK as a whole could, but probably aren't likely to, Italy possibly could if the economy ever recovered (so that's a No then) and after that it will be back to joint bids, 3 country bids, or even worse, that awful 2020 structure. At this rate, Germany will be hosting one in 3 of these things. Not necessarily a bad thing, but bit of variety wouldn't go astray either. ------------- Picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue..... |
Posted By: Newryrep
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2017 at 8:41pm
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Great news by 2024 I should still be able to enjoy it ------------- 'Irish' Songs for an Irish team - no SPL EPL generic sh*te Richard Dunne - 6th Sept 11 - best marshalling of a defence in Moscow since General Zukov Russia V Germany 1941 |
Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2017 at 8:42pm
No qualifiers then straight into the main tournament  ------------- Eamonn Dunphy:"I'll tell you who wrote it, Rod Liddle, he's the guy who ran away and left his wife for a young one". Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn |
deise316 wrote:Posted By: Butch
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2017 at 9:24pm
We will be like them Spanish Fookers and making plans for the 2nd and 3rd week rather than the usual 1st and 2nd week 
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Posted By: GB 1HughJarse
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2017 at 11:02pm
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Germany, France, Russia, Spain or England all capable of a solo tournament. Happy with most of those (we will see how Russia gets on with WC 2018). Several other joint bids possible as it seems only 10 stadiums required. Euro 2000 (Bel & Ned), Euro 2008 (Aus & Swi) and Euro 2012 (Pol & Ukr) all had 8 stadiums so shouldn't be too difficult for those nations (or others who bid before), or a new mix to add another 35,000 capacity stadium each. Safety concerns may prevent Turkey putting up a winnable bid for the foreseeable future. All depends if UEFA wants solo or joint bids. Economic concerns may prevent Spain from bidding, but if the Germans get 2024 then it's 11 years to 2028 so God knows what will be going on in Europe then. Would you prefer a solo or joint hosts? Also, what is the correct way of using the words "stadia" and "stadiums"? |
Posted By: Het-field
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2017 at 11:09pm
| 'Stadiums' is a number of grounds relevant to the one conversation. Stadia is the entire body of them. |
Posted By: SuperDave84
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2017 at 11:34pm
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Well, the Russians won't get it because of the World Cup. The Italians simply don't have the stadiums. France won't bid, nor will England. It'll be Spain, Turkey and Germany, probably with Turkey v Germany in the final round. The Turks have actually constructed a fair number of the stadiums they proposed for Euro 2016 already. Plus, while it is a large country, a lot of the facilities are in the West of the country. And they have spent a fortune on infrastructure in recent years, including a high speed rail network. While it wouldn't be as efficient as Germany, it's certainly no backwater, and they would be able to host it competently, assuming they can keep a lid on security issues. ------------- 
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Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2017 at 12:35am
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Why have Spain not hosted a tournament since 82? ------------- Pied Piper to: Baldrick, Brendan 88, 9Fingers, Borussia and more... 97.6% chance this post will be replied to by Baldrick (source: PWC) |
Posted By: JUICEBOMB
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2017 at 1:07am
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Id imagine the reaession would have a lot to do with why they haven't bid or got the last number of tournaments....they do cost a bit to host ------------- hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard |
Posted By: coyne
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2017 at 1:08am
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There's talk of an all-Scandinavian joint bid also - Norway, Sweden, Denmark & Finland. If that's the case and they do win it, it could be the first time where a country hosts the EURO's and not actually be in it - UEFA rules say when 2 or more countries jointly host a tournament, only 2 countries get automatic qualification meaning the other 2 would have to qualify manually
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Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2017 at 1:10am
2020 will probably be the first time technically. Reckon one of the countries selected won't qualify. (Probably Scotland , ------------- Eamonn Dunphy:"I'll tell you who wrote it, Rod Liddle, he's the guy who ran away and left his wife for a young one". Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn |
Posted By: Claret Murph
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2017 at 12:25pm
Hope the Germans get it , love those boys i must say  ------------- Lansdowne Road debut aged 52 and 201 days . |
Posted By: SuperDave84
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2017 at 1:01pm
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Spain is close to perfect though: two stadiums in Madrid (Real already want to renovate the Bernabeu again plus the new Atletico one), two in Barcelona (a renovated Nou Camp and the new Espanyol stadium), cash for Valencia to finish the new stadium there, the new San Mames in Bilbao, one or both in Seville.... that's seven or eight of the ten there already, all ready to go. You might need to renovate a few more to get the capacity over 40k but the largest ones are already there and ready to go. In terms of facilities, it has huge amounts of tourist accommodation, airports everywhere, and the largest high speed rail network in Europe (and one they continue to invest in, despite the recession). They need to renovate a couple of stadiums but that's it. I'm sure Turkey would take a heap more than that. -------------
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Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2017 at 1:22pm
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Spain would be nice as well ------------- Eamonn Dunphy:"I'll tell you who wrote it, Rod Liddle, he's the guy who ran away and left his wife for a young one". Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn |
Posted By: lassassinblanc
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2017 at 2:14pm
| Didn't they bid with Portugal got the last one? |
Posted By: coyne
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2017 at 2:58pm
| Spain would be nice but they can't afford to wipe their own arses at the minute never mind host a tournament |
Posted By: GB 1HughJarse
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2017 at 4:03pm
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UEFA made a profit of €890 million on Euro 2016 in France. Ministry of Sport in France said France spent €200 million (incl. doubling the original spend estimate on security) in total on the tournament. But they made €1.2 BILLION in spending/tourist related income. So it's actually a money spinner to host. All depends on how much you have to spend updating stadiums/infrastructure. |
Posted By: newrynyuk
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2017 at 7:18pm
Isn't there now a UEFA/ FIFA rule that you can't have two stadiums in one city for a major tournament any more? That's why for Euro 2016 (and indeed France '98) the Stade de France is officially in Saint Denis and not Paris. |
Posted By: Bob Hoskins
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2017 at 8:09pm
I was very skeptical of those figures. Seems a very low spend for such a huge tournament. How come the Olympics seems to be a big loss for countries that host them?? http://www.thelocal.fr/20170110/euro-2016-gave-france-billion-euro-boost-to-economy" rel="nofollow - http://www.thelocal.fr/20170110/euro-2016-gave-france-billion-euro-boost-to-economy ------------- Romario 2016: And the ticket mafia gets caught! Well, four years ago I had already told the government. |
Posted By: Bitored
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2017 at 8:21pm
Has a lot to do with the diversity of sports at the Olympics which require an array of arena`s and infrastructure. Hosting a football tournament is pretty straight forward. You either have or will have 10 odd good stadia to host it. With the Olympics you need waterways, archery courses, Olympic size pools, Rugby league pitches etc etc. The majority of which will never be used again after the Olympics roll out of town. ------------- I won the Player of the Century award thanks to the people.Pele was second.He also came second behind Aryton Senna as Brazil's greatest sportsman.The award FIFA gave Pele isn't worth sh*t - Maradona |
Posted By: Butch
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2017 at 8:22pm
The Olympics is a vast amount of different sports so they are investing in all of them instead of investing in a few new stadiums and using existing stadiums for football tournaments |
Posted By: SuperDave84
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2017 at 11:44pm
I think you are allowed one. Sure Espanyol's stadium is not in Barcelona. And the Olympic stadium in Madrid might not be in Madrid, either, which is Atletico's new one. -------------
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Posted By: Zinedine Kilbane 110
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2017 at 9:43am
I'm sure that was the case why London only had one stadium in Euro 96 ------------- |
Posted By: Zinedine Kilbane 110
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2017 at 9:55am
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To spread the burden and ability to reach more fans I would be in favour of one "major" host nation and a few "sub" host nations. For example: Germany 2024 are the Major host nation. They hold all the knock out games and 1 group - theirs. Maybe Sweden, Croatia, Hungary and Ireland hold the remaining groups. The main host only has to worry about the knock out stages and their group. Smaller nations get to host a group and most countries in the EU would be able to do so. ------------- |
Posted By: ConorMac77
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2017 at 4:21pm
So how come Lisbon and Porto used 2 stadiums each at Euro 2004? ------------- The nation holds it's breath...YES, WE'RE THERE!!! |
Posted By: Territorial
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2017 at 5:31pm
I mean, how many people go from Ireland for a Euro or World Cup Finals, versus an Olympic games? Besides, the organisers need to provide an awful lot more diamond-encrusted watches, luxury hotel rooms and bulging brown envelopes etc for an Olympics than for a World Cup or Euros, since they're all there, not just the teams who qualified... 
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Posted By: Territorial
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2017 at 5:43pm
Let's see now.... Germany - Loads applicable, but not the four you cite; France - Belgium, Luxembourg, Switzerland, Holland even; Spain - France, Portugal, er, Gibraltar England - Scotland, Wales, NI, ROI; Russia - All those neighbouring countries they get on with - i.e. Belarus and Kazakhstan, Finland (sort of); Ah, bollox, just let China host it - they'll have most of the players by then, anyhow! |
Posted By: GB 1HughJarse
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2017 at 9:05pm
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Don't see the point of "sub" groups in neighbouring countries, not when Germany could host it on their own. If it is in Germany, they would want all 24 teams fans spending money in Germany. After all the Germans would have spent millions upgrading stadiums/providing facilities etc, so those individual German cities would want maximum games in their turf, why go to all that trouble and expense for maybe 1 group game and 1 knockout match (because other countries got token matches), when they could have say 3 group matches and a knockout match. Euro 2020 will show us if spreading games around works or not. |
Posted By: Shedite
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2017 at 9:13am
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Posted By: Zinedine Kilbane 110
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2017 at 9:35am
Obviously the Germans can host it all on their own but if UEFA wanted to spread the joy of football to smaller nations it could use "sub" hosts. And given the size of Europe I dont think the sub hosts have to be beside Germany. Why not Ireland, its a few hrs flight which is nothing. ------------- |
Posted By: newrynyuk
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2017 at 11:56am
| Do bear in mind that the European Championships will be 24 teams, not 32 or 48. So it should still be just about manageable to be hosted in one country. At most it will be two countries co-hosting. None of this sub-hosting nonsense that we will see in 2020. |
Posted By: Territorial
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2017 at 2:21pm
One of the joys of Euro2016 is that many fans travelled around France to watch games involving teams other than their own. So if eg Germany were only to be the main host (as opposed to sole host), then fans should at least be able to travel to other sub-hosts by car, bus and train. I mean, it's not as if there is any shortage of land neighbours who could do the job i.e. Austria, Belgium, Czech Rep, Denmark, France, Netherlands, Poland and Switzerland (we needn't count Luxembourg!) |
Posted By: Borussia
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2017 at 2:23pm
| Germany would be able to hold it on it's own, as mentioned above. No need to worry about any other scenario. |
Posted By: Territorial
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2017 at 2:28pm
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Posted By: Zinedine Kilbane 110
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2017 at 2:42pm
What about the football fans from say Latvia or Slovenia who cant afford to travel to Germany and won't ever hold a EURO's. It would be great for them if they had one group so local fans could go to matches. I'm trying to help out the little people and share the wealth. ------------- |
Posted By: Territorial
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2017 at 3:07pm
And if you were to go down the route of sub-hosts, Latvia shares with Belarus, Lithuania and Estonia, whilst Slovenia has Austria, Croatia and Hungary as possible candidates. In fact, the same principle applies to just about every member of UEFA, barring island nations, such as Iceland, Malta, Cyprus and the two Irelands
 To be serious, UEFA is already helping out the little people by expanding the tournament to 24 teams. I mean, just ask any of the "little people" who qualified for Euro2016 by coming third in their group and winning a play-off. You know, like Hungary, Sweden and ROI...
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Posted By: irishmufc
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2017 at 3:24pm
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I think the Euro 2020 format is sh*te tbh and would've loved if it was in Italy irrespective of us getting some group games in Dublin. The only type of multi-hosts among the smaller countries I'd like to see which'd keep that tournament vibe in the one area and would have no more than 3/4 neighbouring host countries: Balkans (Bosnia/Serbia/Croatia/Slovenia) Low Countries (Netherlands/Belgium & Luxembourg) No harm adding Luxembourg to distinguish it a bit from Euro 2000 Baltic (Estonia/Lithuania/Latvia & Finland) Scandinavia (Sweden/Denmark/Norway) Caucauses (Georgia/Azerbaijan/Armenia) *Would need significant infrastructure with at least 4 new stadiums to be constructed. Probably not a goer. ------------- Wings? They're only the band The Beatles could have been. |
Posted By: SuperDave84
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2017 at 3:50pm
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Azerbaijan co-hosting a tournament with Armenia might need a *bit* more than a new stadium. And that's leaving aside the Bosnia Serbia proposal too, which is (somehow) more sensible. -------------
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Posted By: lassassinblanc
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2017 at 3:53pm
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Was about to say same thing, it be like getting North and South Korea to host |
Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2017 at 3:56pm
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f**kin hell muff strikes again ------------- Eamonn Dunphy:"I'll tell you who wrote it, Rod Liddle, he's the guy who ran away and left his wife for a young one". Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn |
Posted By: Bitored
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2017 at 3:56pm
I agree that the 2020 format is muck, it`s going to be more like a qualification campaign than a tournament. I think a lot more people would be saying that if we hadn't got games, they may yet say it if we don't qualify. Imagine a situation where England or even Scotland were playing group games out of Dublin while we sat at home. Potentially only 2 of those sets of countries are a goer for hosting a tournament. You couldn't send Luxemburg to a tournament chiefly because they`d get bet out the door but also because the highest capacity stadium in Luxemburg is a 10,000 seater with a running track around it. It`s a similar situation with some of the Baltic countries. As for the Balkans, there`s all kinds of historical issues there. ------------- I won the Player of the Century award thanks to the people.Pele was second.He also came second behind Aryton Senna as Brazil's greatest sportsman.The award FIFA gave Pele isn't worth sh*t - Maradona |
Posted By: Territorial
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2017 at 4:14pm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stade_Josy_Barthel In fact, it might not even have enough footballs... Meanwhile, Netherlands and Belgium between them only have four stadia with a capacity of over 35k - the minimum requirement for Euro2016 (though they sneaked Toulouse in with 33k): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_football_stadiums_in_the_Netherlands https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=list+of+football+stadium+in+belgium,+by+capacity&ie=&oe=
Plus the weather's Baltic...
I mean, never mind the stadia and the infrastructure etc, you do realise that Azerbaijan and Armenia are still technically at war with each other? That they were fighting each other (over Nagorno Karabakh) as recently as last April, when at least 350 people died? And that you cannot travel directly between the two? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Nagorno-Karabakh_clashes Poor oul Georgia would have to do some serious heavy lifting there! Still, they could always get Katie Melua to sing at the Opening Ceremony, so that'd be a start...
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Posted By: Zinedine Kilbane 110
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2017 at 4:19pm
Maybe not with Lux but some of the Baltic countries could improve their best stadiums if they were awarded a EURO group knowing some big cash is on its way. ------------- |
Posted By: Territorial
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2017 at 4:42pm
Lithuania's equivalents are 9,180 and 6,250, with Estonia's being 12,000 and 9,690. How much "big cash" would it take to build from scratch an 80k Stadium (Final), 2 x 60k Stadia (Semi's and Quarters) and another 5 (minimum) with a capacity of at least 35k? And that's before you get to the infrastructure - motorways, trains, international airports, hotels, burger vans, programme stalls and yon wee woman who sells the oranges outside the AVIVA... And what are they going to do with these stadia afterwards? Bid for the Olympics? I mean, you do realise that between them, they have a total population of just over six million? I am reminded of an FAI bid for some tournament a while back. It wasn't you who took the UEFA delegation to a field outside Dublin and said: "Here ya go, we've already a fence round it to keep the Travellers out, so it's coming on nicely..."
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Posted By: newrynyuk
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2017 at 5:06pm
| The only recent precedent for a multi-host tournament was in 2007 when the Asian Cup was played in Singapore, Vietnam, Indonesia and Malaysia. It was not a success, none of the four made it out of the group stages, and all games not involving the hosts were sparsely attended, including the final. Can see a similar thing happening if the Baltic countries hosted. |
Posted By: Zinedine Kilbane 110
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2017 at 7:04pm
What the hell are you smoking? It must be really good stuff I was talking about a single group being awarded to a smaller nation - the whole point of the previous few posts!! Not the whole bloody Euro's you nutter. ------------- |
Posted By: GB 1HughJarse
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2017 at 11:29pm
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I don't mind the 24 team Euro tournament with the best 3rd place thingy. The 1986 Mexico WC used that format and it was great. UEFA probably know it's not popular. But don't worry, UEFA will solve this particular problem by........expanding it to a 32 team finals tournament. The 2028 Euro tournament finals will feature 32 teams. 8 groups of 4, top 2 in each group go thru to knockout round. By the time the qualifying begins, Jersey, Greenland, Monaco, Northern Cyprus etc will be UEFA members bringing the total up to around 60 members. Top 3 in each qualifying group qualifies along with host or hosts, or something along those lines. If there was a vote in the morning to expand it, it would probably sail through. Only the Germans would oppose it, ironic given that they are one of the 5 or 6 countries that could host it and make a fortune from it. Before we start packing our bags just remember we only finished 4th in the group qualifying for 2006 WC and 2014 WC. |
Posted By: Territorial
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2017 at 11:32pm
But even with your suggestion, if you awarded one Group (i.e. four teams) to one neighbouring country, then you'd still be stuck with staging the main tournament itself in one of the same handful of countries capable of hosting 20 teams in 7 or 8 different stadia. Thereafter, if you chose a smaller nation for one Group from, say, the Baltics, that nation would need at least two modern stadia with a capacity of 35k+ to host their group games. (In Euro2016, each team actually played their Group games in 3 different stadia) Which would almost certainly mean two, even three, brand new builds. Which the host FA could not afford, and would have zero need for after. Meaning that UEFA would have to pay for them, which they won't do, since they don't pay even the Big Boys for tournament stadia, never mind supply expensive White Elephants to the Little Guys. In short, it ain't gonna happen. |
Posted By: Bitored
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2017 at 11:55pm
The likes of Estonia and Latvia are trying to build up basic infrastructure after EU membership. I`ve been out there so I've seen it first hand. They aren't in a position to host a major international tournament. ------------- I won the Player of the Century award thanks to the people.Pele was second.He also came second behind Aryton Senna as Brazil's greatest sportsman.The award FIFA gave Pele isn't worth sh*t - Maradona |
Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2017 at 1:07am
There are serious hopes that Northern Cyprus will be condemned to history as there seems to be genuine progress in reunification talks on the island. Greenland, while 'owned' by Denmark, is part of the North American continent. Then again, see Armenia,Azerbaijan, Israel etc. Monaco should be allowed play international football, they have more of a claim than many countries that do for a start, they have only recently become interested in applying for UEFA or FIFA membership. Jersey have little interest. ------------- Greed has won, big finance has won. Whatever small role elite clubs still play in the local communities from which they grew is dwarfed now by their position as global brands. |
Posted By: coyne
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2017 at 1:27am
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Going very off topic here. But why isn't Monaco considered a Country. And if its because it's considered a City state then so is Singapore and they have their own National team with FIFA membership.
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Posted By: SuperDave84
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2017 at 1:37am
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I think it's just the case that they've never bother applied to FIFA for membership. Could be wrong, mind. -------------
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Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2017 at 1:59am
Correct, interest has only developed fairly recently, I guess since they played their first 'international' around the turn of the century. There is also fears of jeopardising AS Monaco's place in French football, although precedent suggests it wouldn't they don't want to take any chances.It is unquestionably a sovereign country though there was a law , changed about a decade back, that if there were no Grimaldi heirs then France could take it back. Along with the Vatican they are the only two without national teams, that is registered with UEFA, they have actually played each other on occasion. The Vatican squad is mainly chosen from the Swiss guard and other workers and not priests aged over 75.
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Posted By: FrankosHereNow
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2017 at 8:57am
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I would have thought that there are very few Monegasque citizens. Surely most of the residents are foreign nationals. It would be very hard to put a team together. ------------- YBIG Quiz Champion 2016, 2017 & 2018. As You Were Three in a row |
Posted By: lassassinblanc
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2017 at 9:52am
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monaco_national_football_team#Current_squad" rel="nofollow - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monaco_national_football_team#Current_squad Supposedly they have about 60 players to choose from mostly amateurs |
Posted By: Territorial
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2017 at 11:39am
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/37543139" rel="nofollow - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/37543139 They also have a population of 100,000, which is bigger than a few of the other minnows, with another 70,000 on the other islands (though these may not be eligible). I'd guess that quite a few of the population wasn't born on Jersey, either. And afaik, they have a long tradition of Portugese immigrants coming to the island to provide labour to the agricultural industry. |
Posted By: irishmufc
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2017 at 11:52am
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Forgot about the Armenia/Azerbaijan dispute but if the logistics of a tournament with 3/4 neighbouring hosts was feasible they would be the regions I'd like to see the tournaments in. Anyway onto my other suggestion Russia/Crimea/Chechnya co-hosted tournament
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Posted By: Shedite
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2017 at 11:57am
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Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2017 at 11:59am
Can't see how that could cause any issues.... ------------- Eamonn Dunphy:"I'll tell you who wrote it, Rod Liddle, he's the guy who ran away and left his wife for a young one". Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn |
Posted By: Butch
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2017 at 12:07pm
| In a perfect world we could have Poland and the Germans hosting it together |
Posted By: lassassinblanc
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2017 at 12:15pm
Well if a certain tached folk had gotten his way we'd all be Germany now |
Posted By: Territorial
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2017 at 12:41pm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_neutrality_during_World_War_II" rel="nofollow - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_neutrality_during_World_War_II |
Posted By: lassassinblanc
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2017 at 1:24pm
Sure look how the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact turned out |
Posted By: Butch
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2017 at 2:15pm
Yea that Merkel **** should sort that top lip out again |
Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2017 at 3:38pm
I didn't realise that, cheers. More has been made of Guernsey's club team in recent years. ------------- Greed has won, big finance has won. Whatever small role elite clubs still play in the local communities from which they grew is dwarfed now by their position as global brands. |
Posted By: newrynyuk
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2017 at 3:55pm
True. This is also why Barcelona are such hippocrites. They like to portray themselves as bastions of Catalan nationalism, more than a club etc., but when push come to shove, go out of their way to avoid questions about Catalan independence - witness their deafening silence during the non-binding Catalan referendum last year - knowing full well they'd never pull out of La Liga and the twice yearly El Clasicos to play in a Catalonia national league. |
Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2017 at 4:02pm
 Sorry, I couldn't resist. It is difficult to tell their level of hypocrisy, although they have sold most things out over the past decade or so. I am sure they would advocate a European league of some sort. ------------- Greed has won, big finance has won. Whatever small role elite clubs still play in the local communities from which they grew is dwarfed now by their position as global brands. |
Posted By: Fanny MaGee
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2017 at 12:08pm
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Turkey has just confirmed they'll be bidding to host this too. Who knows what state the world will be in in 2024 but with IS attacks, the coup, etc, not sure I'd be going. 4 of the stadiums will be in Istanbul too... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Euro_2024" rel="nofollow - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Euro_2024 |
Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2017 at 12:44pm
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Not a chance they'll get it. Mere formality for Deutschland to be awarded it ------------- Eamonn Dunphy:"I'll tell you who wrote it, Rod Liddle, he's the guy who ran away and left his wife for a young one". Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn |
Posted By: lassassinblanc
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2017 at 1:35pm
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Turkey have applied for last few with no joy so they may be due a favour from UEFA, I'd say if France 2016 was looked into like the FIFA World Cups there would most likely be brown envelopes involved with Platini's name on them. Saying that, with the supposed re form in UEFA after Platini I'd fully expect Germany to get it, as it's a no brainer. |
Posted By: irishmufc
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2017 at 1:40pm
Proper order too. Couldn't wait to get out of Istanbul when I was there a couple of years ago. ------------- Wings? They're only the band The Beatles could have been. |
Posted By: ConorMac77
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2017 at 1:59pm
True, but the no-brainer option would have been to have the 2022 World Cup staged anywhere but Qatar... I know that was FIFA's dirty work but it shows you can never be sure how much these decisions can be swayed by a brown envelope or 2 regardless of who the governing body is. Hopefully those reforms in UEFA that you have mentioned can go through (even though I'm sure there'll be plenty of dodgy characters who'll try and block it) and common sense can prevail with Euro 2024 going to Germany. ------------- The nation holds it's breath...YES, WE'RE THERE!!! |
Posted By: ConorMac77
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2017 at 2:01pm
Why, what happened? ------------- The nation holds it's breath...YES, WE'RE THERE!!! |
Posted By: lassassinblanc
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2017 at 2:18pm
Would say the German FA could afford more envelopes then the Turks anyway |
Posted By: ConorMac77
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2017 at 2:29pm
Even so, at least the tournament would still be going somewhere more suitable, unlike Qatar, without any need to disrupt several club seasons by having to move the tournament to the winter. ------------- The nation holds it's breath...YES, WE'RE THERE!!! |
Posted By: irishmufc
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2017 at 3:03pm
After 3 nights on the tear in Tbilisi we stayed a night in Istanbul. Being stared out of it on the street by Turkish lads sitting outside their shops, Stayed in a hostel with no air conditioning and got bitten all over my legs by mosquitos, broken steps in the hostel, arsehole of staff in local internet café when trying to print flights, call of prayer at 5am and always felt on edge in Istanbul as if something was going to kick off. It's probably a lot worse now. Spectacular looking city but would never go back unless Ireland were playing there. ------------- Wings? They're only the band The Beatles could have been. |
Posted By: lassassinblanc
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2017 at 3:14pm
Probably thought you were Stephen Rea |
Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2017 at 3:19pm
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A fella from rural Ireland complaining about locals staring at tourists................ ------------- Greed has won, big finance has won. Whatever small role elite clubs still play in the local communities from which they grew is dwarfed now by their position as global brands. |
Posted By: irishmufc
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2017 at 3:23pm
Not good facing this when you've the fear. http://coub.com/view/tj1vf30" rel="nofollow - http://coub.com/view/tj1vf30 ------------- Wings? They're only the band The Beatles could have been. |
Posted By: FrankosHereNow
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2017 at 3:35pm
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Jayzis Muff, you don't want Turkey to host a tournament because you stayed in a cheap hotel in Istanbul once. ------------- YBIG Quiz Champion 2016, 2017 & 2018. As You Were Three in a row |
Posted By: irishmufc
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2017 at 3:43pm
No, I was saying I wouldn't go back there unless Ireland were playing and anyway the security situation makes it a non-starter. Germany's a better and a more safer option to host the tournament. ------------- Wings? They're only the band The Beatles could have been. |
Posted By: ConorMac77
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2017 at 4:07pm
Turkey never really appealed to me anyway even before you factor in the reputation of local fans, then the idea of them meeting English and Russian hooligans (if their teams qualify) for a nice civilized chat over Syria ( ). Throw in the security situation (God knows what that'll be like even in a couple of years, never mind 2024), then your experience a few years ago on top of all that.... ...Yeah, I don't blame ye Muff, I'd prefer Germany myself, all things considered. It may not feel completely safe (after all, look at the heavy security in France last summer) but it would still be much better than having it in Turkey. ------------- The nation holds it's breath...YES, WE'RE THERE!!! |
Posted By: FrankosHereNow
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2017 at 4:16pm
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If Turkey can sort itself out over the next couple of years (very doubtful I know) then I think they should get the tournament ahead of Germany. Germany has already had 2 World Cups and a European Championships. Turkey hasn't hosted anything. It's a big country and deserves a shot at hosting. ------------- YBIG Quiz Champion 2016, 2017 & 2018. As You Were Three in a row |
Posted By: lassassinblanc
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2017 at 4:26pm
How much are ze Turks paying you !! Das Deustchland vill double it!! |
Posted By: SuperDave84
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2017 at 5:59pm
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The mad thing is that it's no longer envelopes of cash. Used to be ten, twenty grand would do it. Only a few quid, in the grand scheme of things. Problem now is that it seems to be millions every time, and that sort of sh*t can't be in cash but has to be laundered. It's harder to hide than cash of course, but the sums are generally much higher. -------------
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Posted By: newrynyuk
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2017 at 9:34pm
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Not a chance will Turkey get it. Turkey were the only serious country to put in a bid to host Euro 2020. But rather than go for that, UEFA instead decide to spread the tournament all over Europe from Dublin to Baku that will be a bugger to travel around in. That's how much UEFA don't want to award a major tournament to Turkey. |
Posted By: lassassinblanc
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2017 at 3:43pm
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The German football association (DFB) confirmed on Friday that 18 cities and stadiums had expressed interest in hosting Euro 2024 matches by the noon deadline that it had set for them to do so. These are: Berlin (Olympiastadion), Bremen (Weserstadion), Dortmund (Signal Iduna Park), Dresden (DDV-Stadion), Düsseldorf (ESPRIT Arena), Frankfurt (Commerzbank-Arena), Freiburg (new stadium planned), Gelsenkirchen (VELTINS-Arena), Hamburg (Volksparkstadion), Hanover (HDI Arena), Kaiserslautern (Fritz-Walter-Stadion), Karlsruhe (Wildparkstadion), Cologne (RheinEnergiestadion), Leipzig (Red Bull Arena), Mönchengladbach (Borussia-Park), Munich (Allianz Arena), Nuremberg (Stadion Nürnberg) and Stuttgart (Mercedes-Benz Arena). I've highlighted 9 stadiums which I think will 100% host I think the final number will be 10 so I think it will between Monchengladbach, Stuttgart and Freiburg* you may wonder why I say Freiburg (i) They are already planning a new stadium DFB/UEFA will consider this ambitious (ii) Joachim Low is from the area now he may not be Manager come 2024 but I'd imagine he'll have a say given the decision will be made by September |
Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2017 at 3:52pm
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I'd have to think Colonge would make the final cut ------------- Eamonn Dunphy:"I'll tell you who wrote it, Rod Liddle, he's the guy who ran away and left his wife for a young one". Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn |
Posted By: SuperDave84
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2017 at 4:21pm
Putting those in all-seated capacity order: Berlin 74,000 Munich 70,000 Dortmund 65,000 Gelsenkirchen 55,000 Stuttgart 54,000 Hamburg 51,500 Dusseldorf 51,500 Then the remainder are generally between 40,000 and 50,000. Those seven above would all have to get games. That leaves three more. With three already in the NRW conurbation, I can't see Moenchengladbach or Cologne also getting to host. With Frankfurt also likely to get games, on account of the city being well able to cope with the demands of hosting (certainly more suited than the competitors with similar sized stadiums), not to mention the corporate money they'll want to attract to the tournament, and the stadium being basically big enough, that leaves two more. I wouldn't be so confident on Hannover or Freiburg. Kaiserslautern and Nuremburg definitely have strong claims, and Leipzig has some claim to games too. I'd imagine they'd want two stadiums in Bavaria, just so Munich isn't so isolated (I know Stuttgart isn't that far away), so I'd imagine Nuremburg would get one of the two spots. That would likely leave Leipzig, Freiburg, Hannover and Kaiserslautern. I imagine Leipzig would get it, based on geography. Much like 2006, it can't be an entirely West German tournament. So if they get it, the ten I see being likely to get games are the seven above, Nuremburg, Leipzig and Frankfurt. I can't see Freiburg getting it, even with a new stadium. It just won't be big enough and Freiburg don't have the fan base to justify a 50,000 seater stadium. If they did get it, they'd push Nuremburg out, I imagine. -------------
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Posted By: Borussia
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2017 at 4:24pm
| I think Cologne will end up with games - Overlooked in 1974, 2006 was their first crack at it. I'd certainly think they would e ahead of Hannover who've already had 2 goes. |
Posted By: BabbsBalls
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2017 at 4:55pm
Germany  ------------- l hear you are a racist now, father ? |
Posted By: lassassinblanc
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2017 at 5:31pm
| Either way there will be 10 fantastic venues |
Posted By: Shedite
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2017 at 7:32pm
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Just go for this lot again. Was absolutely perfect... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_FIFA_World_Cup#Venues" rel="nofollow - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_FIFA_World_Cup#Venues
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Posted By: Mulvanystrasse
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2017 at 8:58pm
The rebuilding/updating of the Mungersdorf Stadium in Cologne was not finished in time for the 1974 World Cup. |
Posted By: Mulvanystrasse
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2017 at 9:25pm
The only city that was hard to get into and out of by train on World Cup match days was Kaiserslautern. Due to the lack of accommodation in town most fans stayed in the cities east of 'lautern and many used the trains on match days leading to overcrowding. The Fritz Walter stadium is a great venue for Bundesliga games when there are only 4/5K away fans to get in and out of town. Would like to see Dusseldorf included, great city and great stadium with it's own u-bahn station. |
Posted By: SuperDave84
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2017 at 3:41pm
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Dusseldorf is a fantastic city and definitely deserves a set of games. God I hope Germany gets it rather than Turkey. I'm sure Turkey would be great and secure but you'd be looking over your back in a way you wouldn't in Germany. -------------
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Posted By: lassassinblanc
Date Posted: 21 Feb 2017 at 10:55am
Dusseldorf is great spent night there after Gelsenkirchen match, Only the one night but would like to revisit |
Posted By: Butch
Date Posted: 21 Feb 2017 at 12:40pm
Went on a lads trip a few years ago to Düsseldorf . One of my favourite cities in Germany . Great city to get around , plenty of bars and nice restaurants . It seems to have a bit more affluencey compared to other German cities . |