I think a problem is too often when it happens it's used for point scoring, it's more 'Look at these sick United/Liverpool fans singing about Hillsborough/Munich, what a scummy club' whereas it should be 'these people regardless of club affilation are clearly very deranged individuals and should never be allowed near a football match again'

Worse at the English game. Piss taking is all in good humour, got a great laugh about the 'small part of England' chants at the Scots and 'whats it like to have a queen' but there were some lads at the English game who were just saying whatever bile came into their head. Worst part is you know they only came out because it was England and they were probably hoping it'd kick off. you wouldn't be seeing them at the qualifiers in autumn

They do.. 

United fans were simply retaliating to listening to the Munich chant they love. 

Enjoy mass in the morning Fr 
 

I wouldn't say it was a majority, I didn't either, and i wouldnt say we're all as bad as each other, i think i can speak for hopefully everyone on this forum when i say i've never sang a song about someone's loved one dying or something as awful as that. There's good harmless fun, then there's going on a wind up which is still grand, and then way way further than that there's that kind of stuff.

I'm a United fan myself, Liverpool nor United fans are 'worse' for it. By which i mean the overwhelming majority of fans of both clubs (and almost every club) abhor that kind of thing. It's not about which club is 'better' than the other because only 200 of us sang about your atrocity and 400 of you sang about ours. Most fans of all clubs would never sink as low. This day last week i went to a game in Hungary and saw 20,000 Ferencváros fans do Nazi salutes, now there's a genuine scummy club

Having Turkish Delighs bars thrown at us everytime I've been at OT wasn't overly pleasant

As a Leeds fan, I've not been to OT very often but the 3 times I've been post Istanbul, yea there were Turkish delight bars thrown not to mention the "Always look out for Turks carrying knives" chant.

As for the rest of your post  

 

Unfortunately,it's just common practice for away fans to sing offensive chants at derbies,it's not just limited to England.It has been condemned by many fan,doesn't mean it won't happen again

Some class of weird justification for scumbag behaviour ' Ah yeah, Man U fans sang about Hillsborough, but those disgraceful Liverpool fans sang about Munich in a pub beforehand' (Or a simple vice versa depending on where your foreign club allegiances lie) as if this somehow makes it equal or OK. 

E77 hit the nail on the head, simply a huge amount of EPL fans in general are brainless scum, regardless of club. SB's absolutely pathetic post about ''retaliation'' being an example just on this thread. 

Over in the children's section (AKA ROTW) , Liverpool fans on here (and going on the general age profile of the YBIG site, not too many over 30 years old) have been referred to as '' murderers'' by other lads not actually old enough, or maybe even born before 1985 to have sadly watched the Heysel disaster (and yes, Liverpool's scumbag fans more or less entirely to blame for it) unfolding live on TV. 

Absolutely zero comprehension of the scumbag fan culture that prevaded in England in those days from one set of fans/consumers, and absolutely zero regard for the scale of the human tragedy from another set of fans/consumers of a different club, few of which remember a time before a certain Scots lad was the manager of Man U. 

I'm half glad the brainless & witless continue to sing about these subjects, it gives our own brainless sheep (Well, my family has always supported Man U/Liverpool mate, it was handed down to me & I have no choice, and by the way it was nothing to do with the fact they happened to be winning all around them at the time) something to think about here & there. Not that it costs them much more than a few second's thought in general, but f**k it, they are precious seconds. 

Well, in the space 2mins they go from celebrating the killing of catholics to celebrating the killing of germans. 

There is a percentage of football fans are mindless, simple as and my comment about retaliation wasn't a justification i was merely pointing out why they do it. When Rangers begin their bouncy bouncy chant, they'll be getting something involving the IRA coming back in their direction that element will never leave football. If lads have a real issue with that and don't want to associated with it they should stick to rugby, GAA be real ffs there is a hooligan element to football there always has been, look at eastern europe Poland, Ukraine,Serbia  Hungary they're absolutely fanatical.

 

As for your suggestion to become a rugby fan...I think I would rather take a slap from some far right looney if those are the options.

 

Do you join in with these chants by the way?

No, I didn't say that. I used the rational behind the responses from supporters, i.e. chant about the famine, get the IRA sung back. Thats how its been for years, its not about to change because a few lads on YBIG moan about it.

Do I join in? in booing the English anthem as i pointed out before? No, I've no issue with the English nor England I live here. Do I sing, Celtic Symphony/Boys of the Old brigade at Celtic Park/Hampden, Yes I do. I'm a Glasgow Celtic fan, we've a bit more class then to chant about Hillsbrough or Munich we chant about the army who got our countries freedom.

Are you a Man United/ Liverpool fan? 

While growing up I wasn't allowed to wear a Celtic top outside football training, I don't fit into the 'look at me I'm a Catholic' most Celtic fans do not see Celtic as a political statement or even making a statement of their religion for most of us its an Irish founded football club on Scottish soil with a proud Irish heritage and roots. However there is a percentage that portray our club as sectarian etc, I dislike Rangers because they're our neighbours and traditionally the club we have to challenge for the league not because of their colours or the majority of their fans political beliefs. Glasgow Celtic have decades of 'class' that some clubs in the British Isles can only dream off known throughout the world as the best club fans also.

 

United fans retaliated to the - Fergies right your fans are sh*te, chant with that sick Hillsborough one.

 

Hardly comparable, and in this case United fans let themselves down spectacularly

 

Saw a video yesterday, not sure who the fans were but they sounded like Londoners, singing -

 

Arsene Wenger has a son, has a son, has a son, Arsene Wenger has a son....Adam Johnson

Arsene Wenger had a dad, had a dad, had a dad, Arsene Wenger had a dad...Jimmy Saville

 

 

Aul Wenger gets a tough time of it

I've no doubts a few idiots probably have on a coach from West Belfast to an Old Firm however in the stadium, I've never knew such a song existed I've never even heard one in a bar myself,lets not forget our manager at the time was on the pitch helping the dead and wounded.

When did you hear this song been sung? In my 20yrs going to Glasgow iv heard it once, its was getting sung by 4/5 lads in a pub after a game.

I was in the Broomloan end when we played the huns on the 40th anniversary of the disaster. There was a minute silence before the game and to be honest i was dreading it on the build up to the game. I think there were a few lads who coughed and 1 idiot who start shouting, he was quickly told to shut the eff up. Out of 7000 fans in the Celtic end that minute silence was impeccably respected by 99.9% of our fans.

One song that never sat right with me was the Nacho Novo song.