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Topic: Oriel Park should be nuked
Posted By: Trap junior
Subject: Oriel Park should be nuked
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2015 at 8:57pm
Kip of a ground and a kip of a pitch. Rip up that thing.


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Posted By: PanteirA
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2015 at 9:04pm
I think I met someone last week in Portugal who was an expert in Nukes.


Posted By: Sham157
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2015 at 9:04pm
No it shouldnt. I hate Dundalk as much as anyone. Granted the place needs a lot of work etc but destroying the thing completely is ridiculous. We moan about modern stadia but any of the old stadia we have we want to destroy.


Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2015 at 9:11pm
Originally posted by Sham157 Sham157 wrote:

No it shouldnt. I hate Dundalk as much as anyone. Granted the place needs a lot of work etc but destroying the thing completely is ridiculous. We moan about modern stadia but any of the old stadia we have we want to destroy.


Yes it should.  Here's a dramatisation that displays the benefits of nuking

 



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Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2015 at 9:13pm


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Posted By: Sham157
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2015 at 9:22pm
Well done TJ , drag it down before it starts.


Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2015 at 9:23pm
Originally posted by Sham157 Sham157 wrote:

Well done TJ , drag it down before it starts.


What?


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Posted By: Sham157
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2015 at 9:25pm
Stupid pics and vids. If you want to discuss Oriel Pk then go for it if you want to yet again act the maghot then head off to the whatever section.


Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2015 at 9:27pm
I am discussing it. I think it should be nuked.


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Posted By: Sham157
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2015 at 9:29pm
Thats not discussing it, thats just making a statement.


Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2015 at 9:32pm
Originally posted by Sham157 Sham157 wrote:

Thats not discussing it, thats just making a statement.


Excellent


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Posted By: irishmale0399
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2015 at 9:41pm
Trap Junior would you ever go off into a dark corner and drink a very big bottle of cop on...........

The clubs new owners are trying to sort out the lease on the stadium so they can claim grants etc., add to that the €100,000 for winning the league, the first year in the CL..........where should the money come from to do up the ground after where it was 4-5 years ago????

Or are you just sitting at home nursing your frustration.....christ there is Dundalk playing good football, management stabilising the financial side of the business, their fans have something to shout about........and they are winning things. What team do you follow??

Answer one simple question.......Where should the money come from for the club to build/rebuild the stadium to meet your high standard??? And I dont mean that only for Dundalk.....there are plenty of stadia in Ireland in need of investment. Where should the money come from???

As for nuking Dundalk....I am sure there are plenty of Dundalk lads who would love to nuke other places north and south of the Boyne Wink




Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2015 at 9:45pm
Originally posted by irishmale0399 irishmale0399 wrote:

Trap Junior would you ever go off into a dark corner and drink a very big bottle of cop on...........

The clubs new owners are trying to sort out the lease on the stadium so they can claim grants etc., add to that the €100,000 for winning the league, the first year in the CL..........where should the money come from to do up the ground after where it was 4-5 years ago????

Or are you just sitting at home nursing your frustration.....christ there is Dundalk playing good football, management stabilising the financial side of the business, their fans have something to shout about........and they are winning things. What team do you follow??

Answer one simple question.......Where should the money come from for the club to build/rebuild the stadium to meet your high standard??? And I dont mean that only for Dundalk.....there are plenty of stadia in Ireland in need of investment. Where should the money come from???

As for nuking Dundalk....I am sure there are plenty of Dundalk lads who would love to nuke other places north and south of the Boyne Wink




Galway Utd.

If they cant get money off the FAI, grants or investors they need a long term bank loan. I saw the 1979 European Cup campaign and Oriel is still exactly the same. As for that pitch, it should be ripped up. Joke of a surface. How much did ye waste on that?


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Posted By: irishmale0399
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2015 at 10:17pm
Stadium is still as it was at the beginning of the 80s when I was going with my grandfather and father to games. It is a result of a hugh amount of mismanagement over the years by former club owners (but solely not a DFC problem, plenty of other examples) and the typical short term success wish of the average LOI supporter/Club. If the club are not winning trophies or fighting at the top supporters dont come through the gates, sponsors stay away.....That is unfortunately the reality of the Irish game. Arent Celtic, ManUTD and Liverpool more attractive and on tv......

Now lets look at what the new owners are reported to be doing......

1. Are trying to secure ownership of the lease (to allow for the application of grants over €20,000), are working in the background on sponsorship deals and are trying to promote the club in the whole north east.......generate more gate revenue. This may then make for a sound financial basis to start doing up Oriel Park etc. etc.

2. They are rumoured to be talking to DKIT about a new build......again more revenue will be needed to make this happen.......ie. more prize money, grants, TV money or more gate income. Prize money cannot be the basis of any plan to finance a stadium.......no certainty that we will win the league or qualify for the CL.

Re Pitch:
Its not optimal...that is something everyone within the club knows......however.....it has passed all stress tests put down by the FAI and UEFA and is passed fit to play on so clubs have to accept it and get on with it.
If I remember correctly it was put down to generate more income for the club from renting it out to third party users, something which the new owners have reduced drastically. Was also claimed at the time that the pitch would cost less to maintain than a grass pitch long term and the club would be out of their financial problems quicker.......

Now to your idea of long term bank loans to do up or rebuild........
€100,000 prize money for the LOI....
CL money if you qualify....
Then sponsorship and gate receipts.........average attendance of maybe 2,500-3,000 per game paying an average of €15 entrance. Now that and sponsorship money is what the club live from on a daily basis...........Where should the bank get their money from??? I assume the club needs approx. minimum €3-5million.....no bank in this world will give a LOI club that money in the current economy with the finances involved. Risk is way too high.
The FAI are up to their necks in debt as it stands so they aint going to secure or issue loans to the club and if you look at JDs actions in the last few months you can see he is hoping for the DKIT deal....otherwise he wouldnt have been in Dundalk a few weeks ago at the opening of the DKIT sports facility speaking it all up and praising the work being done.
Now lets say DFC do get a new stadium or get the finances to do up Oriel Park what will the rest of the league have to cry about then...????


Posted By: Shoco
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2015 at 10:34pm


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Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2015 at 10:37pm
It's not a question of having a go at Dundalk. I think they play great football and I'm impressed with Kenny and the fitness of the players. Scored a few great goals tonight.

But other LOI clubs have respectable facilities. It doesn't have to be a 10,000 all seater. Even a more modern terrace or more modern covered seating.  At the end of the day football clubs need to be run like a business and sometimes long term investment has to be made at expense.  Businesses are getting by even in the recession. Are there no benefactors from Dundalk that could throw some money at it?

The LOI needs a revamped image to gain new support. Grounds need to be more fan friendly, and make the league somewhat professional. Bad grounds just make the league look amateurish and as if nobody gives a fook about it. Compare it even to Irish rugby grounds now like Leinster and Munster and the image looks terrible. No wonder we are losing people to rugby.

Even a small example is inadequate toilet facilities at some LOI grounds. Some have no toilet paper and I would say most dont even have soap to wash your hands.

Dundalk as champions are our representative in Europe. Seeing them play Bate in that decrepit ground reflects badly on Irish football and doesn't gain the league any admirers.






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Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2015 at 11:54am
Question:  If you are driving up the M1 motorway from Dublin towards  Dundalk and you take the exit for Dundalk, there is a signpost which says Oriel Park 6km pointing out into the countryside away from the town. Its a permanent signpost. Yet the ground is in the town in the opposite direction.  Whats that about?


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Posted By: Sham157
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2015 at 12:05pm
Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Question:  If you are driving up the M1 motorway from Dublin towards  Dundalk and you take the exit for Dundalk, there is a signpost which says Oriel Park 6km pointing out into the countryside away from the town. Its a permanent signpost. Yet the ground is in the town in the opposite direction.  Whats that about?
If its a fingerpost signlike one in the pic then probably just been turned the wrong direction. Happens all the time with them.



Posted By: seanyshuffler
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2015 at 12:23pm
Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Question:  If you are driving up the M1 motorway from Dublin towards  Dundalk and you take the exit for Dundalk, there is a signpost which says Oriel Park 6km pointing out into the countryside away from the town. Its a permanent signpost. Yet the ground is in the town in the opposite direction.  Whats that about?
It was erected by The Coors to lure unsuspecting football supporters to their doom.


Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2015 at 12:26pm
Originally posted by seanyshuffler seanyshuffler wrote:

Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Question:  If you are driving up the M1 motorway from Dublin towards  Dundalk and you take the exit for Dundalk, there is a signpost which says Oriel Park 6km pointing out into the countryside away from the town. Its a permanent signpost. Yet the ground is in the town in the opposite direction.  Whats that about?
It was erected by The Coors to lure unsuspecting football supporters to their doom.


LOL

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Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2015 at 12:27pm
Originally posted by Sham157 Sham157 wrote:

Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Question:  If you are driving up the M1 motorway from Dublin towards  Dundalk and you take the exit for Dundalk, there is a signpost which says Oriel Park 6km pointing out into the countryside away from the town. Its a permanent signpost. Yet the ground is in the town in the opposite direction.  Whats that about?
If its a fingerpost signlike one in the pic then probably just been turned the wrong direction. Happens all the time with them.



Funny thing is its not one of them type signposts.


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Posted By: Sham157
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2015 at 12:33pm
Is it an old sign? Could predate the motorway exits and link roads


Posted By: Shoco
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2015 at 12:37pm
Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Question:  If you are driving up the M1 motorway from Dublin towards  Dundalk and you take the exit for Dundalk, there is a signpost which says Oriel Park 6km pointing out into the countryside away from the town. Its a permanent signpost. Yet the ground is in the town in the opposite direction.  Whats that about?

There's three exits for Dundalk, the 1st exit does indeed have a sign for oriel park, and it is correct, the issue however is that I don't think there's a sign telling you to take the turn which would be the 1st right almost straight after you leave the motorway.

this road will bring you on to the ardee road which brings you down to the garda barracks, turn left there and it brigs you straight to the ground


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Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2015 at 12:38pm
Originally posted by Sham157 Sham157 wrote:

Is it an old sign? Could predate the motorway exits and link roads


No its a modern one. You drive up the hill/exit from the M1 and come to a roundabout. The first exit has 'Oriel Park 6km' pointing out into the countryside.  The sign is brown with a football symbol beside it.Its a fixed plate sign. To get to Dundalk you have to drive around the roundabout take the 3rd exit and cross over the motorway and drive maybe 3km. Blackrock will be on the right and Dundalk town on the left.


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Posted By: Shoco
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2015 at 12:45pm
here, il draw a map




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Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2015 at 12:46pm
Ah mystery solved. Very counter intuitive all the same taking a left on the roundabout.


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Posted By: Shoco
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2015 at 12:52pm
you thinking of coming down to watch the champions TJ?

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Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2015 at 12:57pm
Originally posted by Shoco Shoco wrote:

you thinking of coming down to watch the champions TJ?


I was in the town a couple of weeks back. Popped into 'Jockeys' for a pint


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Posted By: Shoco
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2015 at 12:59pm
do some great food in there

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Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2015 at 1:01pm
Originally posted by Shoco Shoco wrote:

do some great food in there


I know I stuffed myself full of itLOL


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Posted By: Twoinarow
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2015 at 1:32pm
Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Originally posted by Shoco Shoco wrote:

you thinking of coming down to watch the champions TJ?


I was in the town a couple of weeks back. Popped into 'Jockeys' for a pint
 
You were across the road from the pub with the best pint in Dundalk (Peaders) now called Mc'Guinness's


Posted By: corkery
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2018 at 4:15pm
Someone just text me to say that the water in the porto toilets were frozen

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Posted By: thebronze14
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2018 at 1:33pm
Saw a pic of a dead mouse between two of the seats alsoDead


Posted By: Jason Kelly
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2018 at 2:38pm
How that place gets cleared to play 1 round of a UEFA sanctioned match is incredible.

I saw pictures of the famous puddle at the town end so the Home sections are just as bad.


Posted By: corkery
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2018 at 6:21pm
Originally posted by thebronze14 thebronze14 wrote:

Saw a pic of a dead mouse between two of the seats alsoDead

It wouldn't take that long to cut the grass and tree in the away end. Take for example St Pats, a club of the same size, same capacity stadium. Their club asked their fans to help with small things like painting and cutting weeds. Dundalk should ask their fans to help out. There's no need for a thorn bus to be in the middle of a stand.

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Posted By: The White Cafu
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2018 at 2:43pm
Just set off for oriel park.. should be fun standing in the away section in that weather tonight..


Posted By: DUBLIN DOC
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2018 at 3:19pm
Originally posted by The White Cafu The White Cafu wrote:

Just set off for oriel park.. should be fun standing in the away section in that weather tonight..
Better off standing there than in any of the sh*tholes they call pubs full of gooble eyed one toothed simpletons anyway

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Posted By: Twoinarow
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2018 at 3:48pm
Originally posted by The White Cafu The White Cafu wrote:

Just set off for oriel park.. should be fun standing in the away section in that weather tonight..


You could just sit in the stand

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Posted By: AnCearrbhach
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2018 at 3:54pm
Originally posted by The White Cafu The White Cafu wrote:

Just set off for oriel park.. should be fun standing in the away section in that weather tonight..

Word of warning, Dundalk's only goals this season have come in a blizzard.  


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Posted By: AnCearrbhach
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2018 at 3:54pm
Originally posted by DUBLIN DOC DUBLIN DOC wrote:

Originally posted by The White Cafu The White Cafu wrote:

Just set off for oriel park.. should be fun standing in the away section in that weather tonight..
Better off standing there than in any of the sh*tholes they call pubs full of gooble eyed one toothed simpletons anyway

Kennedys is one of the best LOI pubs, way better than anything in Tallaght imo


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Posted By: 1980
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2018 at 4:19pm
Does Tallaght actually have any pubs?

Been in a nightclub type bar around the Square, was alright.


Posted By: Shoco
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2018 at 4:58pm
Originally posted by The White Cafu The White Cafu wrote:

Just set off for oriel park.. should be fun standing in the away section in that weather tonight..


But you will have quick access to the bar from there, i see no reason why limerick fans wouldn't be allowed in, or you can sit in the stand if you want


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Posted By: corkery
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2018 at 5:11pm
Originally posted by 1980 1980 wrote:

Does Tallaght actually have any pubs?

Been in a nightclub type bar around the Square, was alright.

There's a good few local ones alright but a bit of a walk. The Maldron isnt a real away day pub.

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Posted By: 1980
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2018 at 6:05pm
Often thought of trying the ones near the Luas stops but don’t know what they’re like, could be run by Nidge and his mates for all I know.



Posted By: BigStrongMan
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2018 at 8:16pm
Originally posted by 1980 1980 wrote:

Does Tallaght actually have any pubs?

Been in a nightclub type bar around the Square, was alright.
only about 12 pubs in Tallaght

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Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2018 at 9:19pm
Originally posted by AnCearrbhach AnCearrbhach wrote:

Originally posted by DUBLIN DOC DUBLIN DOC wrote:

Originally posted by The White Cafu The White Cafu wrote:

Just set off for oriel park.. should be fun standing in the away section in that weather tonight..
Better off standing there than in any of the sh*tholes they call pubs full of gooble eyed one toothed simpletons anyway

Kennedys is one of the best LOI pubs, way better than anything in Tallaght imo


Quality pub


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Posted By: Twoinarow
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2018 at 10:32pm
Originally posted by BigStrongMan BigStrongMan wrote:

Originally posted by 1980 1980 wrote:

Does Tallaght actually have any pubs?

Been in a nightclub type bar around the Square, was alright.
only about 12 pubs in Tallaght


Really?

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Posted By: UCDFAN
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2018 at 10:49pm
Originally posted by Twoinarow Twoinarow wrote:

Originally posted by BigStrongMan BigStrongMan wrote:

Originally posted by 1980 1980 wrote:

Does Tallaght actually have any pubs?

Been in a nightclub type bar around the Square, was alright.
only about 12 pubs in Tallaght


Really?


Up to fairly recently the area was considered rural under alcohol licensing laws. So no new licence could be granted within a mile of a current licence or at least the new licence could be contested. There is alot single storey lounge-style public houses. One per estate. The exceptions is the Dragon Inn/Murphys and Foxes Covet/Molloys that face-off between each through 4 centuries.
Bohs v Shels or the Nazi Germany and Soviet Union pavilions on the Champs Elysees at the Paris Expo in 1937.

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Posted By: UCDFAN
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2018 at 10:50pm
double post

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Posted By: max
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2018 at 11:33pm
Was at the match tonight, spare a moment for the Limerick fans who arrived late tonight and were already 2 down upon arrival, for the fan who was kicked out for throwing a snowball at the linesman, for losing 8 nil, for baring the cold in that away end and for their long journey home. In fairness they made some noise and were louder than the home fans for the majority of the game.


Posted By: gspain
Date Posted: 28 Feb 2018 at 11:36am
Originally posted by Shoco Shoco wrote:

Originally posted by The White Cafu The White Cafu wrote:

Just set off for oriel park.. should be fun standing in the away section in that weather tonight..


But you will have quick access to the bar from there, i see no reason why limerick fans wouldn't be allowed in, or you can sit in the stand if you want

We were allowed in the stand.  Always have been.    


Posted By: Shoco
Date Posted: 28 Feb 2018 at 11:39am
Originally posted by gspain gspain wrote:

Originally posted by Shoco Shoco wrote:

Originally posted by The White Cafu The White Cafu wrote:

Just set off for oriel park.. should be fun standing in the away section in that weather tonight..


But you will have quick access to the bar from there, i see no reason why limerick fans wouldn't be allowed in, or you can sit in the stand if you want

We were allowed in the stand.  Always have been.    


Yeah there's always been a section of the stand for away fans is what I was implying


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Date Posted: 29 Mar 2019 at 8:24pm


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Posted By: corkery
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2019 at 8:25pm
Chips, cheese and curry.Sleepy

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Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2019 at 8:29pm
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Posted By: Twoinarow
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2019 at 3:17am
Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

🤮🤮🤮🤮

Is it because we usually win?


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Posted By: Ah-FFS
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2019 at 7:14am
Originally posted by corkery corkery wrote:


Are the stents free ?? LOL . 


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