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Topic: Irish Times atricle - MUST READ
Posted By: ABFC
Subject: Irish Times atricle - MUST READ
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2015 at 4:11pm
Great stuff from Ken Early. West Dublin's resident rugby fanatic trAndy won't like this. 

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/international/soccer-feeling-like-unloved-child-in-tale-of-two-sports-1.2156535



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Posted By: OnTheOneRoad
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2015 at 4:21pm
enjoyed that article hugely. nothing against genuine rugby fans (i personally cant get into it at all) but the petulant responses to the article show up glory hunting 'fans' who have no idea what following sport is all about and have a ridiculously overestimated opinion of the rugger lads and their achievements


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Posted By: ABFC
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2015 at 4:33pm
Originally posted by OnTheOneRoad OnTheOneRoad wrote:

enjoyed that article hugely. nothing against genuine rugby fans (i personally cant get into it at all) but the petulant responses to the article show up glory hunting 'fans' who have no idea what following sport is all about and have a ridiculously overestimated opinion of the rugger lads and their achievements

You've hit the nail on the head.


Posted By: danny10tot
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2015 at 6:21pm
Good read. Jesus some of the comments on that article would make you pull your hair out. 

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Posted By: Bo Jackson
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2015 at 6:22pm
I just casually link this page to egg chasers comments Approve
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloodgate" rel="nofollow - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloodgate


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Posted By: Landon Donovan
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2015 at 6:42pm
RTE play a big part in the perceptions of teams. You'd never hear the rugby pundits say such nasty stuff about Irish rugby players. It wouldnt be tolerated by rugby fans.

The likes of Dunphy abuses the players for the cheap lolz. Football fans seem to tolerate and call the it entertainment.


The fans are also to blame. The football players get an awful lot of stick on here. You'd never see rugby fans sl*g of their own players like you do see here.


The 2 sports have a very different culture,


Posted By: ripbomb
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2015 at 9:16pm
Loved the bit about the rugby "WORLD" cup.


Posted By: FREEWHEELER
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2015 at 9:36pm
Quality piece that. 

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Posted By: irelandfan
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2015 at 10:13pm
Originally posted by Landon Donovan Landon Donovan wrote:

RTE play a big part in the perceptions of teams. You'd never hear the rugby pundits say such nasty stuff about Irish rugby players. It wouldnt be tolerated by rugby fans.

The likes of Dunphy abuses the players for the cheap lolz. Football fans seem to tolerate and call the it entertainment.


The fans are also to blame. The football players get an awful lot of stick on here. You'd never see rugby fans sl*g of their own players like you do see here.


The 2 sports have a very different culture,

But would George Hook not have a degree of criticism towards the rugby players in the same regard to Dunphy albeit with the use of different language or punctuation?? 


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Posted By: t_rAndy
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2015 at 10:42pm
Originally posted by ABFC ABFC wrote:

Great stuff from Ken Early. West Dublin's resident rugby fanatic trAndy won't like this. 

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/international/soccer-feeling-like-unloved-child-in-tale-of-two-sports-1.2156535


f**k off.
I read the article earlier and I agree with a lot of it. He makes very valid points. The one that stood out the most is just how talented a footballer you need to be to be a mediocre one on the world stage.

Let's get this straight, I'm a republic of Ireland national football team supporter first and foremost. My love the the Irish football team trounces most other things I care for on this earth!
My points in the rugby thread where more about the how people begrudge the rugby team. But hey thats way we Irish fo best!


Posted By: Landon Donovan
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2015 at 11:14pm
Originally posted by irelandfan irelandfan wrote:

Originally posted by Landon Donovan Landon Donovan wrote:

RTE play a big part in the perceptions of teams. You'd never hear the rugby pundits say such nasty stuff about Irish rugby players. It wouldnt be tolerated by rugby fans.

The likes of Dunphy abuses the players for the cheap lolz. Football fans seem to tolerate and call the it entertainment.


The fans are also to blame. The football players get an awful lot of stick on here. You'd never see rugby fans sl*g of their own players like you do see here.


The 2 sports have a very different culture,


But would George Hook not have a degree of criticism towards the rugby players in the same regard to Dunphy albeit with the use of different language or punctuation?? 



No, he never goes after the players as people or attacks them on an individual basis. Hook and Dunphy is an easy comparison to make but they are extremely different in how they criticize.



Posted By: depechemode
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2015 at 2:34am
There's also a huge middle class thing about rugby in Dublin, like it's cool if you're a rugby fan kinda thing. Pure bandwagon stuff the last few years. The abuse you get if you mention going to Ireland football matchs can be annoying to say the least .
As an Irish man I'm delighted we do well at rugby but I'd be the first to mention there are only 2 handfuls of decent teams.
I also think it's disgusting the lack of appreciation Robbie keane gets as a player. We will never see his like again.


Posted By: Baldrick
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2015 at 2:41am
1.2 million watched us lose to Croatia

Half that watched the game last week against Scotland.

Rugby country my hole

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Posted By: Cabra Hoop
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2015 at 3:27am
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Posted By: Cabra Hoop
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2015 at 3:27am
Originally posted by Cabra Hoop Cabra Hoop wrote:

tis very rare that I agree with Sir Baldrick the Banner Bohemian , but on the subject of Rugby we are quare bedfellows...


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Posted By: Cabra Hoop
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2015 at 3:30am
Originally posted by Cabra Hoop Cabra Hoop wrote:

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apologies but my nerves are a bit frayed...ahead of the game

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Posted By: hooped
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2015 at 10:29am
First of all excellent article by ken, telling it how it is. Why are we even talking about this on a day like today is crazy. Fact what really gets the egg chasers is that their team will never have the same effect the football team gets for events like euro 88, italia 90 etc etc, it really really gets to them. As regards their team i have no time for them whatsover from the fans to the media its a disgrace, we have a true sporting legend in a true world sport in robbie keane but still all we get is nonsense about precious bod. As for their followers most a just celtic tiger types keen to attach themselves to the soulless corporate nonsense that is an irfu game, ever eager to be seen to be invloved in the latest in thing. Stuff them and their team and lets get behind the real boys in green, the peoples team. COME ON IRELAND!!!!


Posted By: whitesideOnside
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2015 at 11:26am
Declan Lynch has a little pop at rugby today in the Independent.
http://www.independent.ie/opinion/official-ireland-falls-in-love-with-rugby-31102551.html


Posted By: horsebox
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2015 at 11:32am
I love this piece, it sums up the mentality of a lot of posters on the forum.

"By contrast, when the Irish footballers were beaten by three of the strongest sides at Euro 2012, everyone concluded it was because they were crap."

And this too.

It’s hard to think of any senior Irish rugby international who’s had to put up with the sort of open scepticism about his abilities that Glenn Whelan has faced over the last few years.



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Posted By: 9fingers
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2015 at 11:45am
Read it yesterday. It's an excellent article, ken early writes exclusively about RainPaulo!


Posted By: Baldrick
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2015 at 11:53am
I agree with ken early and what makes the article good is that he does not go down the road of having a pop at rugby just giving it context. Would have been easy to make it a rant

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Posted By: ABFC
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2015 at 12:03pm
Listening to the Second Captains podcast and he was having a few sarcastic lines towards our "glorious rugby heroes" 
Safe to say Ken doesn't like the game or its fans at all. It's not the first time he has had a go.


Posted By: OnTheOneRoad
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2015 at 12:14pm
Originally posted by depechemode depechemode wrote:

There's also a huge middle class thing about rugby in Dublin, like it's cool if you're a rugby fan kinda thing. Pure bandwagon stuff the last few years. The abuse you get if you mention going to Ireland football matchs can be annoying to say the least .
As an Irish man I'm delighted we do well at rugby but I'd be the first to mention there are only 2 handfuls of decent teams.
I also think it's disgusting the lack of appreciation Robbie keane gets as a player. We will never see his like again.


This x100


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Posted By: Snagtree
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2015 at 1:59pm
Great article. Someone needs to put to put robbie Keane on that second captains wall


Posted By: Devrozex
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2015 at 9:22am
Originally posted by depechemode depechemode wrote:

There's also a huge middle class thing about rugby in Dublin, like it's cool if you're a rugby fan kinda thing. Pure bandwagon stuff the last few years. The abuse you get if you mention going to Ireland football matchs can be annoying to say the least .
As an Irish man I'm delighted we do well at rugby but I'd be the first to mention there are only 2 handfuls of decent teams.
I also think it's disgusting the lack of appreciation Robbie keane gets as a player. We will never see his like again.
 
Could not agree more with the part in bold - the problem there is not with rugby fans though - it's with our own fans. The amount of abuse I've heard certain fans give Robbie over the years in Lansdowne is just insane. Have never been able to get my head around it as the man has provided us with so much joy over the years - as well as being by far the most committed player. A national treasure for sure.



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