Although technically it's against the law viewing that sort of content it's not like you're gonna be telling someone in the middle of Starbucks about it.

That's pretty much all they've got though. Shock value. Their PR and marketing is top notch. As a fighting force though, they're mainly incompetent and poorly trained, their Chechen force (1,000+ fighters) aside.

F*ck that. Hopefully the stupid ****s meet a grizzly end.

He survived.. But the people watching down below watching f**ked him even more tossing rocks at him 

They also got most of their tanks and hardware when they scared the life out of the most half-assed army in the M.E., the Iraqi Army.

Ahh, I was being facetious. I couldn't ethically or morally ever allow myself to profit off something so inherently vile and evil as weapons manufacturing. I'll stick to good, wholesome industries like big pharma, oil and the tobacco industry, thank you very much..!

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Sounds like a few people here.

It's truly remarkable how "sophisticated" and Hollywood-esque these horror shows have become. It's interesting to watch in their last moments just how complicit and almost docile the captives become as "willing actors". I guess they are already resigned to their fate and just playing out the final scene numbly. 

There is a clear attempt on the part of ISIS with these slick sick videos to draw the viewers attention to the co-relation between the impact of Jordan's participation in the "Coalition" with the callous repercussions that will befall those who target ISIS and their heartland.

Hussein walks an extremely delicate tightrope right now. Any rash fcuk-up to further keep the White House & Whitehall impressed with his "loyalty" and he risks upsetting not only the extremely complex ethnic balance in his own country but also risks ending the elaborate apparatus & hegemony of power he, his extended family and the tribal groups he has long since bought off have carefully and astutely developed. 

About half the population of Jordan are Palestinian. There are also significant numbers of Iraqis in addition to minorities of Syrians, Lebanese & Chechen's. All largely Sunni and not exactly fans of Assad. There is very little appetite amongst Jordanian citizens for a Military Invasion of Syria and for good reason.

The view of Jordan ironically in the West is largely that of a plucky, benign, moderate, largely well functioning democracy craved and admired by all "progressive" peace loving Arabs of the region. This isn't the reality at all. Palestinian friends of mine explained long before the current Syrian Conflict erupted that in fact Syria (ironically under an Alawite in Assad) was the country long looked up to in the Arab World (by all sects) for it's diversity, tolerance of intellectual discussion throughout all levels of society, a thriving art scene, film industry, relaxed social norms and relative freedom.  Isn't it ironic therefore that the West has now found itself opposing that secularist tolerance it itself lauds & espouses yet often itself falls genuinely short of?

Hussein and his old man before him have very clearly and unashamedly nailed their colours to the Western mast in recent decades, feeding that cycle of Western "backing" in return for the purchase of vast quantities of Western made weapons. That is the heavily conditional quid pro quo nature of Western "help"; there's no altruistic free lunch at this drive-thru. 

The U.S., France and U.K. are the largest sellers of military equipment to Jordan, and not just to Jordan in that region. At a very bottom dollar realpolitik financial level, it is in these nations interests to continue those arms sales, but those arms must at some point be used, i.e. to kill other humans,  otherwise there will eventually be a clamour from the citizens in countries such as Jordan who have to pay for them as to why they are being purchased at all.

Equally, these same Western Nations for which the arms industry is a significant component of their domestic economies, also need a reason, an excuse if you will, to explain mass production and procurement of eye-wateringly expensive weapon systems to their own citizens. 

If you look back over U.S. history since Independence it's very interesting because you won't find a single decade where either the U.S. or U.K. didn't fight a war somewhere in the World and in addition frequently supplied weapons to allow other compatible like-minded Nations/paramilitaries/guerrilla groups to fight devastating proxy wars on their behalf, which were manipulated, directed and controlled at the very highest state levels. 

For just a cursory understanding of this see U.S. involvement in Central America/Sub-Saharan Africa in the 70s & 80s or U.K. exploitation of Arab divisions in the period between WW1 up to the creation of the State of Israel or alot closer to home the circuitous supply of weapons thru Brian Nelson & the UDA and the UK State orchestrated terror groups such as the Loyalist & UDR staffed Glennane Gang that terrorised the Nationalist community and attempted to reduce Native support for armed resistance to foreign armed occupation.  The human repercussions of these policies of both Washington and London are scattered throughout the World in graves from Newry to Nicaragua.

So there is nothing fanciful or conspiratorial in what I am saying, the evidence is there in spades if one cares to educate oneself rather than be educated by the same elements that provide cover for said States.

In short, Nations who continue in 2015 to act with Imperialistic fervour in the moral belief that they must endure the 21st Century's version of the White Man's Burden, need to pick a fight every few years to justify their internal structures, foreign policy stance and arms production and proliferation. 

Isn't is ironic then that the very countries such as the U.S., U.K., France & Russia who will benefit from arms proliferation that increases conflict in the Middle East & in the case of Israel the subsequent depletion of it's Arab Neighbours Military capabilities, are the very same States who will ultimately assume the moral right when it comes to divvy up the spoils of War?  

Love or hate him, you have to say Assad is sharp as a tack, great sense of humour and love's the ladies. Be some craic down the pub watching Winning Streak.

I like Assad. I mean no doubt elements of his regime have been guilty of individual actions which could be classed as War crimes, but these almost pale into insignificance when you consider what ISIS, etc are up to. I think he is genuine & consistent in admitting that the Syrian Military have been responsible for isolated atrocities (which he claims have subsequently been punished) but that is not government policy.

I wonder would he run in the new Tipperary 5 seater and get rid of Lowry?? Assad for Taoiseach 

That the upper echelons of Syrian military & political apparatus are dominated largely by Alawites there is no question but you are into arguements of representative democratic legitimacy imo, not questions of dictatorship.

Yes, to us with the model of society we have become accustomed, it does seem strange that someone would assume power in such a way and hold it for so long. But plenty of leaders in World History have been "democratically" elected and held power coercively for relatively short periods of history and still been guilty of terrible atrocities.

I would focus more on how benign his actions as leader were rather than the length of time in office.

Edit; I should have given at least one example of what I was referring to above in bold. Nixon was "democratically" elected (if you consider a two party state with whoever spends the most buying the election as democratic) and look at his record ; Napalm bombing of Cambodia which killed tens of thousands of civilians in the most horrific manner, the Madman theory, training & supply of weapons and finance to right-wing paramilitary groups so as to destabilise & overthrow democratic governments whose politics Washington didn't approve of such as in Chile, Nicaragua, Honduras, El Salvador and Colombia, the support of companies like Chiquita (now combined with Fyffes) which effectively ran slave plantations in Central America and bribed local Officials, State espionage against Newspapers & opposition activists domestically (Watergate), the supply of weapons to foment proxy wars in Africa, the backing of corrupt regimes such as the Saudi's, I could go on all day....

Nixon was only in power 5 years Dave, Assad 15 years. But I know who I think acted more akin to a "Dictator".   

Am i right in saying that the Americans were close to siding with the oppssition who ever they were at the time when Assad's forces used chemcals weapons ?

Was this Isi or some other group ?

It's all murky jockeying for position. See over 100 years ago and the "Great powers" arbitrarily dividing up those lands into "protectorates" over a Gin & Tonic and game of chess. Some things never change.

The Americans and to a lesser extent the UK and France want enough instability in that region that it keeps everyone on their toes and they can play each off the other in addition to support their own massive domestic arms industries, but of course they don't want TOO much instability that strong Independent leaders emerge tht give them the long term two fingers. 

Thanks for the compliment btw, I like debating with SuperDave and reading his posts. He is always respectful and honest in his arguements no matter the topic. I've a lot of time for him.

4.: Exile in a benevolent country.

Examples include the Shah of Iran, Duvalier in Haiti, Marcos in the Philippines and Idi Amin in Uganda.

The Saudi's reduced the price of oil, so that it would be put fracking business's out of business. As there profit lines are based on a barrel at $115, where it's around 50 odd now. So I'm not sure the Yanks will be giving up their addiction to the filthy black lucre of the Middle East any time soon.

WHAT?? don't Be silly with your conspiracy theories.

The war (i forget which actual one) is 100% about protecting our freedom and "preserving our way of life". Landon, tell him...

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The bigger question is how were they allowed on as you're not allowed on without an adult if you're under 18 when the 3 girls were 15 years old, 1 of them just turned 16.

The passports surely must of been checked in this day and age with terror alerts all over the place, there's clearly more to it.

I'm no Sherlock Holmes but the smallest of airports never mind Heathrow where they travelled from literally scan you head to toe.

The thing about the "death cult" as David Cameron has started to refer to ISIS, is they prey on young people similar to a sexual predator. Every child is told never to talk to strangers and don't get into vans etc. But with modern technology young people are in more danger sitting in front of their laptop/mobile device than they are while walking down the street. If you take vulnerable young people, such as these 3 girls. They are very intelligent "A" students as the news reported. They appeared well to do (I'm judging this on the area of London they were from and the school they attended but stand to be corrected) But clearly they had something missing from their lives, more than likely a sense of belonging. They were part of immigrant families and were more than likely curious about their ancestry. If you take all this into account they become very easy prey for a predator. Getting these girls to leave the UK/west and go to Syria is a propaganda coup for ISIS. It also does exactly what a terrorist group wants to do by creating terror in the west as every country is aware ISIS`s network is worldwide.

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If it was a domestic flight I can give some sort of leniency, I even sometimes get stopped at Dublin immigration control although Aer Lingus class Dublin as a domestic flight unlike BA etc. Istanbul as a young girl is a bit too suspicious.

Are you busy these days with your victims of domestic violence helpline?

Since these three are in Turkey, Syria, Iraq or wherever, any violence against them is a foreign matter rather than a domestic one.

Fair enough. I just thought being stopped at a domestic flight it would be perfectly logical to do the same on an International flight.

There's a boozer in Sunderland City Center called ISIS also, poor bastards losing business for something they haven't done. 

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