Heary to Sligo?
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Topic: Heary to Sligo?
Posted By: Cotsy
Subject: Heary to Sligo?
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2014 at 12:41pm
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Doing the rounds on twitter this morning. Hope he stays. Has improved as a manager this season after an appalling start where i was one who thought his time was up. ------------- Bohs Till I Die |
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Posted By: GoneToShowgies
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2014 at 1:34pm
Done deal. (bar the paperwork!!!) Offered the job last week and was given the weekend to decide. Niall Harrison and Gavin Dykes to be involved also. |
Cotsy wrote:Posted By: Cotsy
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2014 at 1:52pm
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So he has accepted it? Disappointed i have to say. He will try and take our better players too i imagine. As a firm Rodestant i obviously now hope the Messiah returns. ------------- Bohs Till I Die |
Posted By: GoneToShowgies
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2014 at 2:23pm
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He's been offered it. In fairness Costy I don't think he has fully accepted (depending on who you talk to) It is expected he will accept tho. Could be a young team for us next year if he does. He has a young team at Bohs and with Niall Harrison (ex u15 Ireland manager) and Dykes (currently Manager with Kelly of the Rovers underage set up) !!! 40 applications for the job. 15 of which were able to be considered. Gary Boylan on trial in England too. Hudersfield I think, (Celtic trial also)hopefully the scholarship set up a few years ago is starting to bear fruit. |
Posted By: roverstillidie
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2014 at 2:50pm
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A great move for Bohs ------------- He is Karl Pilkington in the LOI section and Karl Marx outwith it |
Posted By: Cotsy
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2014 at 3:01pm
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How do you figure? Are you being sarcastic? Or just not rate him? ------------- Bohs Till I Die |
Posted By: starryplough
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2014 at 3:05pm
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The rumours of Sligo's financial difficulties must be true if that is the caliber of manager they are after ------------- Some Clubs Are Bigger Than Others |
Posted By: roverstillidie
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2014 at 3:05pm
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What has he done to justify Sligo taking a punt on him? ------------- He is Karl Pilkington in the LOI section and Karl Marx outwith it |
Posted By: brissy
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2014 at 3:09pm
| Dont think it will happen (rumours) |
Posted By: roverstillidie
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2014 at 3:18pm
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Posted By: starryplough
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2014 at 3:31pm
Yeah very odd one they must be really desperate, Bohs probably get some compo off this as well I'd say they can't believe their luck. Would be a bit of a change not seeing some annoying Englishman at Sligo though ------------- Some Clubs Are Bigger Than Others |
Posted By: GoneToShowgies
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2014 at 3:56pm
| We take a chance on young ambitious managers trying to make a name for themselves. We always have. Cook and Baraclough were in a very similar boat and look how that turned out!!! Sanchez, Cotteril and McStay are others that have got a start here. Its the way we've always done it, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. The only difference this time is that its from inside the league I suppose (if it happens of course). |
Posted By: starryplough
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2014 at 5:27pm
So are Sligo fans in general behind this appointment if it goes ahead? To the outsider Heary would appear a bizarre choice though, a lot of Bohs fans seem to have no time for him. ------------- Some Clubs Are Bigger Than Others |
Posted By: moose
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2014 at 5:27pm
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Yep a good employee, if he goes so be it, we get someone else in and move on. It would be a silly move for him IMO. Sligo are on the descent and Bohs will be challenging for trophies within a few years. Hes from Cabra, if he feels like travelling up and down to Sligo for training and matches well I wish him well. It may not happen as Im sure he knows whats going on behind the scenes at Bohs and Im sure hes well aware of what he could achieve at Bohs over the next few seasons.
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Posted By: brissy
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2014 at 5:31pm
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Posted By: starryplough
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2014 at 5:35pm
 I'm sorry I know this is a thread on Sligo but seriously? Bohs will be lucky to be still on the go in a few years, never mind trophies------------- Some Clubs Are Bigger Than Others |
Posted By: moose
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2014 at 5:42pm
Oh yeah forgot about that. I dont know what came over me!!! But Ill tell you one thing freindo, that €175k thats left in your bank account wont last long with Nutsy around. Now if you want to carry this on I think we should move to the Shams - Big Club Megathread
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Posted By: Nah Nah Nah Nah
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2014 at 5:45pm
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Don't really know where the idea Bohs are going to be winning trophies anytime soon is coming from. We're certainly in transition all the same. Not in any major financial difficulty I wouldn't think but if crowds continued the way they were then we certainly would be. Only had just over 1k at the last two home games. Chairman had an excellent interview on Ocean FM a few weeks ago. Basically saying they took the decision to get rid of Barraclough as they wanted to make sure that they got through a round in Europe and didn't feel he was certain to do it. Also said that 3.5k a week was saved on the wage bills by all the ins and outs that happened around June and July and that with the drop off in crowds that saving was badly needed. As for Heary, personally thought he'd done a decent enough job with Bohs. Just happy the Mitchell Brothers are gone.
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Posted By: Madferret
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2014 at 5:46pm
Thought yis would of been using Ebay meself or that old reliable Ackrintin Staanlee website?
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Posted By: starryplough
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2014 at 5:48pm
Where are you getting your €175k figure from ------------- Some Clubs Are Bigger Than Others |
Posted By: roverstillidie
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2014 at 6:02pm
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Bohs got partial Rovers 2012 accounts and reckon we 'only' have €175k in savings. The fact it's the members club accounts and not the football club is irrelevant ------------- He is Karl Pilkington in the LOI section and Karl Marx outwith it |
Posted By: roverstillidie
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2014 at 6:14pm
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But back on topic, what has he achieved to deserve a bigger job? ------------- He is Karl Pilkington in the LOI section and Karl Marx outwith it |
Posted By: GoneToShowgies
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2014 at 8:02pm
Nope. Cook had 28 games as a manger with Southport. Baraclough had 34 games as a manager with S****horpe. Heary has a full season with Bohs. If he's not based in Sligo then I wouldn't be interested. |
Posted By: saintjoey
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2014 at 8:23pm
| This does seem like a move to suggest Sligo are finished with challenging for leagues for the moment, it happens every club in the league without exception! Just my opinion though |
Posted By: brissy
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2014 at 8:37pm
| Cant see Heary moving to Sligo, hes a proper dub it would be a massive move for him. Rumours |
Posted By: GoneToShowgies
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2014 at 8:38pm
| We'll have to wait and see on that one Joey. I agree with ya tho, the LOI goes in circles, with clubs having different success. The club is in transition at the minute but a well run club has a good chance in this league, for that reason I think we will have a chance. |
Posted By: Nah Nah Nah Nah
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2014 at 11:00pm
| Board want to see more players coming through the youth system and since the Rosenborg game the one good thing to come out has been the amount of under 19s who have been given a chance and in most cases performed pretty well |
Posted By: roverstillidie
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2014 at 12:59pm
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Sounds like a done deal. Delighted, Sligo won't be a force for a few more seasons. ------------- He is Karl Pilkington in the LOI section and Karl Marx outwith it |
Posted By: saintjoey
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2014 at 2:23pm
| One thing I will say about Sligo, if they do scale back at least they will always have the new stand for their success which is more than most clubs have besides the couple of league wins |
Posted By: BFC
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2014 at 4:16pm
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f**k him, not as if he is irreplaceable |
Posted By: Nah Nah Nah Nah
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2014 at 6:36pm
This fills me with hope! |
Posted By: starryplough
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2014 at 12:11pm
Bohs boss Heary poised to replace Coleman in Sligo hotseatBohemians boss Owen Heary has agreed to become the new manager of Sligo Rovers. The Dubliner is set to leave his current post and succeed John Coleman who left The Showgrounds to return to England after his brief spell in the hotseat following the departure of Ian Baraclough. Sligo decided to look to a homegrown option to fill this vacancy and they identified Gypsies supremo Heary as their preferred candidate. He will be handed a two year deal to revive the fortunes of his new employers. Ireland U19 boss Paul Doolin and ex-Shamrock Rovers supremo Trevor Croly were also floated as potential options for the position. Heary took over at cash-strapped Bohemians midway through last season, although he lacked the requisite coaching qualifications to take the job on a full-time basis until this year. The Dalymount Park side sit in eighth place heading into their final game of the season against Derry this Friday, six points behind fifth-placed Sligo, who have performed below expectations. ------------- Some Clubs Are Bigger Than Others |
Posted By: Clonbhoy
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2014 at 12:24pm
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Of the three mentioned he is definitely the best candidate. Doolin ffs! ------------- A man can have no greater love than give 90 minutes to his friends. @withgodlygrace |
Posted By: starryplough
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2014 at 12:27pm
Think his FAI gig is nearly up and is desperate for anything. It still doesn't make sense to me why Sligo wouldn't go after Mick Cooke, the only reason they appear not interested is because he isn't a young manager  . I think he'd be a good fit------------- Some Clubs Are Bigger Than Others |
Posted By: roverstillidie
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2014 at 12:33pm
------------- He is Karl Pilkington in the LOI section and Karl Marx outwith it |
Posted By: Stillhuntinghenry
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2014 at 12:43pm
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We went for doolin before we gave roddy the job. I'd have been happy with him tbh ------------- "Not one cent" - RTID on Mark Quigley's pay-off from Shamrock |
Posted By: 1980
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2014 at 12:49pm
| Quietly optimistic. He stopped Bohs getting relegated and got into a safe mid table spot. With a few extra quid hopefully can improve on that. |
Posted By: Nah Nah Nah Nah
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2014 at 1:00pm
After watching the "style" of Coleman and Bell don't think there would have been too many going to watch a Mick Cooke team play every second week. Boards plan is to begin to start getting players through from the youth system rather then bringing in a new batch of players every season. Been a long time since we brought anyone through from underage that was any good (Coleman was just found in a friendly match against St Catherines). Think Heary could be a good fit with that in mind but sure we'll see.
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Posted By: Clonbhoy
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2014 at 1:04pm
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Doolin is an awful hoofball merchant. Worst I have seen. ------------- A man can have no greater love than give 90 minutes to his friends. @withgodlygrace |
Posted By: daithi
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2014 at 11:55am
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Best of luck to Owen Heary in his new job at Sligo ------------- Just because it's tradition does not make it right |
Posted By: roverstillidie
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2014 at 12:12pm
We have all heard stories that the finances in Sligo need reacting to and its good that Sligs are reacting with a downsize job, its just a pity that the boom and bust hit Sligo too. ------------- He is Karl Pilkington in the LOI section and Karl Marx outwith it |
Posted By: starryplough
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2014 at 1:13pm
After a few years of competing and punching above their weight Sligo are reverting to their traditional place in Irish football, lower premier division/nowhere. Slig fans will probably argue it was worth it for them few brief years. I don't think they are in for anything pretty next season and Heary will end up looking to move back to Dublin anyway ------------- Some Clubs Are Bigger Than Others |
Posted By: roverstillidie
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2014 at 1:19pm
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I think you are being a little bit harsh. Sligs people see that they are facing a lean few years financially and are talking appropriate action. Better than trying to spend their way out of it again. ------------- He is Karl Pilkington in the LOI section and Karl Marx outwith it |
Posted By: Nah Nah Nah Nah
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2014 at 1:46pm
Even for you that is a nonsensical post
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Posted By: Clonbhoy
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2014 at 1:56pm
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I am surprised Sligo have jumped into the loi merrygoround by appointing Heary and it may will be a case of cutting back financially but to suggest Rovers will not be a major player is crazy. The infrastructure they have in place makes them the most secure club in the league. They are really looking into player development, something they might feel Heary can improve. It might take a couple of years but I can't see them being away for too long. ------------- A man can have no greater love than give 90 minutes to his friends. @withgodlygrace |
Posted By: roverstillidie
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2014 at 1:58pm
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Why are they any more or less secure than anyone else? ------------- He is Karl Pilkington in the LOI section and Karl Marx outwith it |
Posted By: Nah Nah Nah Nah
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2014 at 1:59pm
Agree with this. It's only 6 years ago since we were begging for money to stay afloat. On the appointment itself always felt Heary did a decent job at Bohs considering the circumstances. Happy enough with it. |
Posted By: Clonbhoy
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2014 at 2:09pm
Not just financially. Off the field they have everything in place ------------- A man can have no greater love than give 90 minutes to his friends. @withgodlygrace |
Posted By: daithi
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2014 at 2:09pm
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I see the muppet show has arrived here now ------------- Just because it's tradition does not make it right |
Posted By: roverstillidie
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2014 at 2:21pm
I amn't having a pop at them, but its quite the statement to suggest they have the best setup of all clubs. ------------- He is Karl Pilkington in the LOI section and Karl Marx outwith it |
Posted By: Clonbhoy
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2014 at 2:42pm
I amn't  saying everything is perfect and they are the finished article but their ground is far superior to Bohs and Derry, their whole complex is the best in the league, in the heart of their town. City's youth system and local recruitment policy brought us to the last day of the season. From what I read elsewhere is that they seem to be adopting a similar approach. From what I can see, despite a disappointing season on the pitch, they have every reason to be positive about the future.------------- A man can have no greater love than give 90 minutes to his friends. @withgodlygrace |
Posted By: roverstillidie
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2014 at 2:53pm
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Should we not wait and see if they produce any talent before we declare their youth system better than Derry, Cork, UCD etc?
I suppose what I am getting at is that I am surprised that yiou believe the line that Sligs have chosen to not have a competitive team and decided to play kids as some form of decision they have made from strength as opposed to a cost cutting excercise. There is nothing wrong with that decision, but lets call a spade a spade ------------- He is Karl Pilkington in the LOI section and Karl Marx outwith it |
Posted By: Clonbhoy
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2014 at 2:59pm
The argument I was making was basted on SP's belief that they were going to fade into the backwater. They have cut their costs, after rebuilding a ground to exceptional standards and delivering top quality training facilities. I never declared their youth facilities a success, merely that it is the correct path to follow. They have arguably the best ground and facilities of any team, talking of their demise is premature. ------------- A man can have no greater love than give 90 minutes to his friends. @withgodlygrace |
Posted By: roverstillidie
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2014 at 3:26pm
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Well that isn't what you said, but I take your point.
But there is a difference between relying on your youth system because you trust it like Derry, UCD or Cork, or what Rovers want to be in a position to do with the 1st Division side and having to rely on youth like Bohs or what it appears Sligo will be doing because you are broke.
I can see them struggling very hard as the crowds decline. I can see them doing ok too. We will see what he has to work with and how stringent the cuts are. ------------- He is Karl Pilkington in the LOI section and Karl Marx outwith it |
Posted By: PanteirA
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2014 at 5:25pm
| Who is/has taken over at Bohs? |
Posted By: LesVerts
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2014 at 6:04pm
Don't think anyone yet, a lot of bohs fans want roddy, trevor croly has been mentioned too. ------------- SRFC 17/24 |
Posted By: roverstillidie
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2014 at 7:05pm
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Johnny mc mentioned if Shels don't win the playoff ------------- He is Karl Pilkington in the LOI section and Karl Marx outwith it |
Posted By: Nah Nah Nah Nah
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2014 at 8:30pm
They won't win it |
Posted By: Clonbhoy
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2014 at 8:36pm
Think they will. Lump on them RTID! ------------- A man can have no greater love than give 90 minutes to his friends. @withgodlygrace |
Posted By: roverstillidie
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2014 at 8:44pm
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That might not be the freshest rumour I'll admit ------------- He is Karl Pilkington in the LOI section and Karl Marx outwith it |
Posted By: Madferret
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2014 at 8:53pm
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This appointment must sound initially like your newly pregnant wife arriving home to tell you that she has decided your son/daughter will be named after a piece of fruit or such like she read of in a ditzy magazine. It jars initially but as you release your grip on the nearest lump hammer you realise the fit makes perfect sense to the occasion.
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Posted By: PanteirA
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2014 at 9:14pm
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Posted By: Clonbhoy
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2014 at 10:02pm
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I certainly hope you have changed your underwear since you heard it RTID ------------- A man can have no greater love than give 90 minutes to his friends. @withgodlygrace |
Posted By: starryplough
Date Posted: 28 Oct 2014 at 10:36am
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Croly or Roddy ------------- Some Clubs Are Bigger Than Others |
Posted By: roverstillidie
Date Posted: 28 Oct 2014 at 10:47am
Roddy will destroy them and for that reason I fully support him getting the job. ------------- He is Karl Pilkington in the LOI section and Karl Marx outwith it |
Posted By: GoneToShowgies
Date Posted: 28 Oct 2014 at 2:04pm
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Heary done an interview on local radio station. He spoke well. Some of what he talked about was: our budget not been as high and that local and youth players would play there part and it was a building process (he has a 2 year contract). The training facilities were excellent and would be a big draw for players looking for full time training. From a Bohs perspective he mentioned that Bohs had done well this season but he felt that they would lose players and he thought that staying there would have meant building a whole new team for next season. He said Kevin Devaney is coming to Rovers and that training on the pitch from only 6 to 7.30 wasn't ideal.
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Posted By: roverstillidie
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2014 at 11:23am
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I don't think anyone doubts its a good move for Heary. The questions are
a: has he done enough at Bohs to justify a bigger job and
b: what this says about Sligo and their ambition.
As for who replaces him, that will be a hoot. With Croly the boards target and Roddy the fans choice, it is going to be great auld fun. ------------- He is Karl Pilkington in the LOI section and Karl Marx outwith it |
Posted By: starryplough
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2014 at 11:32am
For me it says a lot that Bohs fans don't particularly care that he left, he was hardly known for expansive football either which won't go down well with the Sligs who think they are Ajax. Apparently the third choice possibility is Long who just relegated Athlone ------------- Some Clubs Are Bigger Than Others |
Posted By: Shoco
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2014 at 11:39am
I think everyone would agree that Mick Cooke deserves all the credit for that one -------------  YOUR 3 IN A ROW LEAGUE CHAMPIONS |
Posted By: starryplough
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2014 at 11:42am
Either way it shows what Bohs have returned to. One of them was on here the other day talking about winning trophies ffs ------------- Some Clubs Are Bigger Than Others |
Posted By: roverstillidie
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2014 at 12:08pm
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Gypoweb is absolutely hilarious at the moment. Even by their petty, bitter and paranoid standards its side splitting. Nearly all of them want Roddy on the basis that he will sign international stars, who will play samba football, massively increase their crowds, sponsors will flock and the Rovers dominated media will decide that Roddy is a legend and give the club massive PR.
For this reason I want Roddy in. They have a very interesting interpretation of Roddy and his time there. They won some stuff and crowds were better than today, so if they can just bring him back it will all fall into place. ------------- He is Karl Pilkington in the LOI section and Karl Marx outwith it |
Posted By: Shoco
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2014 at 12:23pm
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why do you read other clubs message boards? ------------- YOUR 3 IN A ROW LEAGUE CHAMPIONS |
Posted By: scottyccfc
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2014 at 1:01pm
Dont see why either but why even ask? Why does it matter? ------------- Hometown football, cant beat the feeling... |
Posted By: roverstillidie
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2014 at 2:15pm
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Posted By: Shoco
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2014 at 2:17pm
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each to their own i guess ------------- YOUR 3 IN A ROW LEAGUE CHAMPIONS |
Posted By: Clonbhoy
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2014 at 2:26pm
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Sounds like a bus man's holiday for a Shamrocker. ------------- A man can have no greater love than give 90 minutes to his friends. @withgodlygrace |
Posted By: roverstillidie
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2014 at 2:35pm
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Have a read of the place, its almost Follow Follow in its insanity. ------------- He is Karl Pilkington in the LOI section and Karl Marx outwith it |
Posted By: GoneToShowgies
Date Posted: 30 Oct 2014 at 12:59pm
a. Whether he 'justifies' it doesn't really come into it. Its a risk for both sides. We take a chance on young ambitious managers, that's the way we've always done it. Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't. b. Our 'ambition' hasn't changed at all really. We still want to win trophies and improve the Showgrounds. That will always be our 2 main aims. We're rebuilding at the moment and it looks like youth development will play a bigger part than it has in recent years.
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Posted By: The U
Date Posted: 30 Oct 2014 at 3:10pm
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I think Sligo could have done better in terms of a youth development manager than a guy whose hands were tied in many ways. |