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Topic: Qatar 2022
Posted By: wicklowrunner
Subject: Qatar 2022
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2014 at 1:43pm
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/international/qatar-world-cup-2022-fifa-executive-committee-member-theo-zwanziger-claims-world-cup-will-not-take-place-inqatar-9748466.html



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Posted By: Steve Amsterdam
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2014 at 8:24am
Qatar have come out and said all is going ahead and that zwanziger was speaking personally. Not in a fifa role.
Still, hope there's some truth in his statement. Can't see it being moved though tbh

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Posted By: irish boogie
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2014 at 9:27am
Corals have prices and for it to be moved is odds on fav ? Hopefully this is an occasion when bookies aren't wrong

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Posted By: DUBLIN DOC
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2014 at 7:04pm
Dont expect this to be moved, as it would be seen as FIFA either been inept in the first place by choosing them or to been the corrupt organisation that it is

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Posted By: schillaci
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2014 at 11:04pm
Probably Billions of dollars have already been spent on the Qatar WC project. If FIFA were to take it away from them the legal repercussions would be massive. Qatar would take this all the way to the highest courts. 

I just dont see FIFA having the bottle for a fight


Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2014 at 11:11pm
Originally posted by schillaci schillaci wrote:

Probably Billions of dollars have already been spent on the Qatar WC project. If FIFA were to take it away from them the legal repercussions would be massive. Qatar would take this all the way to the highest courts. 

I just dont see FIFA having the bottle for a fight



FIFA are in legal sh*t either way. US and Australia have said they'll take legal action if the tournament is moved from June July as they are the conditions under which the bids were made and as far as they are concerened if Qatar (as seems likely) can't host it in June July then it should be takrn off them

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Posted By: schillaci
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2014 at 12:26am
Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Originally posted by schillaci schillaci wrote:

Probably Billions of dollars have already been spent on the Qatar WC project. If FIFA were to take it away from them the legal repercussions would be massive. Qatar would take this all the way to the highest courts. 

I just dont see FIFA having the bottle for a fight



FIFA are in legal sh*t either way. US and Australia have said they'll take legal action if the tournament is moved from June July as they are the conditions under which the bids were made and as far as they are concerened if Qatar (as seems likely) can't host it in June July then it should be takrn off them

Didnt know that. The fact that the Oz WC would have been a winter tournament was a massive blow to their chances. Their bid was weak enough already without taking into account cold weather in June. Had a December WC been allowed, they would have had a decent chance of hosting


Posted By: Bob Hoskins
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2014 at 12:45am
A World Cup in the winter (ala South Africa), which can still have very warm conditions, is less appealing to one that is held in what can be extremely hot conditions.

Bit skewed logic their Schillachi




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Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2014 at 12:55am
Originally posted by schillaci schillaci wrote:

Probably Billions of dollars have already been spent on the Qatar WC project. If FIFA were to take it away from them the legal repercussions would be massive. Qatar would take this all the way to the highest courts. 

I just dont see FIFA having the bottle for a fight


Yeah Qatar have nothing to fear in the courtsLOL


Oh apart from 3 million in bribes and all that stuff they didEmbarrassed


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Posted By: RogerMilla
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2014 at 7:47am
If Qatar go down they will bring it all down with them.

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Posted By: schillaci
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2014 at 11:17am
Originally posted by Bob Hoskins Bob Hoskins wrote:

A World Cup in the winter (ala South Africa), which can still have very warm conditions, is less appealing to one that is held in what can be extremely hot conditions.

Bit skewed logic their Schillachi



Not at all. I was just making the point that Australia in winter is not nearly as appealing as Australia in Summer. The Oz bid video featured heavily on the sunshine culture (Bondi Beach etc) when the reality is its quite cold in Australia in June. 


Posted By: SuperDave84
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2014 at 1:33pm
June averages (high / low):

Sydney 17 / 10
Brisbane 22 / 12
Melbourne 14 / 7
Perth 19 / 9
Gold Coast 22 / 13

It is perfect weather for football. There is no difficulty with day time games or with night time games.


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Posted By: schillaci
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2014 at 10:06pm
Interesting article which outlines how taking the tournament off Qatar is unlikely

http://fortune.com/2014/09/23/think-qatars-losing-the-2022-world-cup-think-again/


Talk of Qatar losing the tournament makes complete sense, but in the crazy world of FIFA it probably will never happen.

The Twittersphere was alight Monday with  http://fortune.com/2014/09/22/if-fifa-pulls-the-2022-world-cup-from-qatar-wholl-get-it/" rel="nofollow - talk of Qatar losing the right to host the 2022 World Cup due to the oppressive heat in the Persian Gulf nation.

But before the United States begins a campaign to retake the tournament it narrowly lost to Qatar, there are few things to consider.

1. The person saying the tournament will be taken from Qatar is FIFA executive committee (Exco) member Theo Zwanziger. He has long been a critic of Qatar hosting the tournament and, more importantly, is a lone voice among 24 executive committee members. FIFA has already said he speaks for himself and his comments are his own opinion. It still would take the entire committee and a messy and untested process to strip Qatar of the bid. There would also be plenty of lawsuits, including from the European and American companies that stand to make billions by building entire cities, stadiums and transport systems in Qatar.

2. No one can use the heat card at this stage of the game. Qatar faced intense scrutiny in the run-up to the bid over the fact temperatures reach 110 degrees at the time the tournament will be played. FIFA even raised a red flag over the heat and that should have killed the bid. In its technical report ahead of the tournament, Qatar was the only country rated “high risk” of all the bidders for 2018 and 2022 based on a current assessment of stadiums, transportation and accommodation. Among the concerns were that Qatar’s desert heat posed a risk to players and officials. It didn’t sway the executive committee, which came away convinced that Qatar has the money and technology to keep stadiums and fan zones cool.

3. If the technology fix fails, move the tournament. Like the heat, there has been talk for several years of moving the tournament to winter when temperatures in Qatar are much cooler. FIFA President Sepp Blatter has already said the tournament cannot be played in the summer, joining the likes of Franz Beckenbauer and UEFA president Michel Platini who want it moved. Of course, a move like this will upset European leagues ,which would have to totally revamp their schedules. But FIFA said earlier this year that it was going through a consultation process.

4. Rather than the heat, it would seem corruption would force a rebid of the tournament. But again, that seems to be losing steam. Qatar has long been dogged by allegations that it bought off voters — who ignored the heat — and several newspapers stories in England have said they have evidence to support the charges. That prompted FIFA to hire special investigator Michael Garcia to look into the bidding process of the 2018 and 2022 tournaments. The 350-page report, according to The Sunday Times, has been filed with FIFA, but the organization’s rules prohibit it from publicly naming names or releasing the 200,000 pages of evidence behind it. That tells me that maybe a few FIFA executives will get a slap on the hand, but Qatar will escape punishment.

5. Following the vote for Russia (in 2018) and Qatar, Blatter said soccer was heading to new lands. He meant that in a good way, since he couldn’t have envisioned an invasion of Ukraine, or the streets of Doha in the summer. And much like his support for the 2010 World Cup in South Africa, these two tournaments are part of Blatter’s controversial legacy. He won’t give them up easily and will fight for them until he retires — something that appears to be several years away. The 78-year-old Blatter announced plans earlier this year to run for a fifth term as president that would likely see him in charge of FIFA through 2019 meaning it would be too late to rebid either tournament once he’s gone. He also has thrown in a sweetener to the U.S. in case they raise any concerns about Qatar, suggesting the U.S. could play host in 2026.



Posted By: Clonbhoy
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2014 at 10:19pm
Stopped reading at twittersphere. **** should be dragged to a gulag for that

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Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2014 at 10:51pm
Talk about games starting at 1am


http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/29697271%5b" rel="nofollow - http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/29697271[

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Posted By: SuperDave84
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2014 at 11:50pm
Two hours ahead of here at summer time. Not a ridiculous idea in the circumstances, although of course the circumstances themselves are ridiculous.


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Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2014 at 12:35am
Originally posted by SuperDave84 SuperDave84 wrote:

Two hours ahead of here at summer time. Not a ridiculous idea in the circumstances, although of course the circumstances themselves are ridiculous.


A ridiculous tournament calls for ridiculous measures.  Some talk that camels will referee the games due to their stamina in the heat.


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Posted By: Clonbhoy
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2014 at 12:43am
They get the hump very easily. Lizards may be better although it may be a conflict of interest as they are already running the tournament.

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Posted By: heighway2heaven
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2014 at 11:43am
LOL

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Posted By: Hoosay
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2014 at 12:11pm
Originally posted by RogerMilla RogerMilla wrote:

If Qatar go down they will bring it all down with them.
 
This.
Unless the Qataris are complete idiots they will have some sort of paper trail showing who got paid what and when. If they end up in court, they will have nothing to lose and can send a lot of senior FIFA executives to prison.
Even in Switzerland accepting bribes is illegal.


Posted By: Madferret
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2014 at 8:24pm
Originally posted by Clonbhoy Clonbhoy wrote:

They get the hump very easily. Lizards may be better although it may be a conflict of interest as they are already running the tournament.

LOL CBClap



This thing gets more farcical by the day. That banana Mayne-Nicholls who wants to be next head of the World's largest Sporting Organisation comes out with this gem;

"The weather would still be very warm at night, but the sun is not there and that could help.We'd sleep during the day and work during the night."

LOLWacko


Wherever this thing ends up,  FIFA's overriding concern will be to make sure the games are played at Primetime TV slots in Europe, which is also why they would prefer a November Qatar to a January Qatar that would clash with the Winter Olympics & more TV loot. £cukin $nak€s.


Posted By: humcdona
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2014 at 9:36pm
Give   2022 World Cup to The USA,    USA has   brilliant Stadiums.
They have brilliant Hotels, Airports and Intra structure. Excellent public transport.   At least , you would have it in June.
It is a stupid   decision to have   World cup 2022 in Qatar, due to the extremely heat 50c during the day.   Yours Hugh

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Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2014 at 9:29am
Quelle f**king surprise cleared of any wrongdoing

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Posted By: Sham157
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2014 at 9:30am
Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Quelle f**king surprise cleared of any wrongdoing


Posted By: Borussia
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2014 at 10:12am
Allegedly corrupt FIFA investigates allegedly corrupt bid for World Cup, discovers that everything is fine and dandy.

That's that sorted then.....


Posted By: reddladd
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2014 at 12:38pm
Again you'd wonder why people bother. All that evidence by the Sunday Times and still it goes ahead. You really would lose faith.......


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Posted By: Shedite
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2014 at 4:11pm

The only corruption they found ws for the England 2018 bid!



Posted By: RogerMilla
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2014 at 5:58pm
Originally posted by Shedite Shedite wrote:

The only corruption they found ws for the England 2018 bid!




I love it, they not only rule themselves innocent but rule the people who accused them guilty, class.

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Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2014 at 6:59pm
The Feds are stepping up their investigation into FIFA

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Posted By: Clonbhoy
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2014 at 7:17pm
Originally posted by RogerMilla RogerMilla wrote:

Originally posted by Shedite Shedite wrote:

The only corruption they found ws for the England 2018 bid!




I love it, they not only rule themselves innocent but rule the people who accused them guilty, class.
Seeping Bladder and the boys ClapClapClapClapClapClap That is how to be corrupt. He gets the 'Silvio Berlusconi award in how to be a corrupt prick and get away with it' lifetime achievement  award


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Posted By: colemanY2K
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2014 at 9:32pm
Michael Garcia has come out and condemned FIFA's statement today sayin it is erroneous

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/nov/13/farce-fifa-michael-garcia-erroneous-ethics-report" rel="nofollow - http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/nov/13/farce-fifa-michael-garcia-erroneous-ethics-report

Fifa has been plunged into fresh chaos after a long awaited probe into the controversial bidding process for the 2018 and 2022 World Cups was disowned by its own ethics investigator.

Michael Garcia, the former attorney for the southern district of New York hired as part of a drive to revive Fifa’s image, complained that a 42-page summary of his 430-page report contained “numerous materially incomplete and erroneous representations of the facts”.



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Posted By: colemanY2K
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2014 at 9:37pm
All records of Russia's 2018 bid have been "accidentally" erased by FIFA

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Posted By: Madferret
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2014 at 9:48pm
Originally posted by colemanY2K colemanY2K wrote:

Michael Garcia has come out and condemned FIFA's statement today sayin it is erroneous

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/nov/13/farce-fifa-michael-garcia-erroneous-ethics-report" rel="nofollow - http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/nov/13/farce-fifa-michael-garcia-erroneous-ethics-report

Fifa has been plunged into fresh chaos after a long awaited probe into the controversial bidding process for the 2018 and 2022 World Cups was disowned by its own ethics investigator.

Michael Garcia, the former attorney for the southern district of New York hired as part of a drive to revive Fifa’s image, complained that a 42-page summary of his 430-page report contained “numerous materially incomplete and erroneous representations of the facts”.



Only his legal background prevented him using the term "lying bastardos".

Different crowd of suits, same shíte, was looking into Azerbaijan's human rights abuses, torture, gross corruption & nepotism, press restrictions you name it after they got awarded a leg of the Euro's by UEFA. I'll dig the article out when I get a chance. Would make Bertie look like Christ himself.



Posted By: Butch
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2014 at 9:48pm
Originally posted by colemanY2K colemanY2K wrote:

All records of Russia's 2018 bid have been "accidentally" erased by FIFA

Also the Russians burnt the computers to cover their own tracks after they got the go ahead for 2018


Posted By: Clonbhoy
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2014 at 9:54pm
Originally posted by colemanY2K colemanY2K wrote:

All records of Russia's 2018 bid have been "accidentally" erased by FIFA
It is quite unbelievable. If somebody wrote all this down and tried to get it published they would be told it is too far fetched. 


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Posted By: colemanY2K
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2014 at 10:03pm
Originally posted by Butch Butch wrote:

Originally posted by colemanY2K colemanY2K wrote:

All records of Russia's 2018 bid have been "accidentally" erased by FIFA

Also the Russians burnt the computers to cover their own tracks after they got the go ahead for 2018

Ah no way?!?!  LOLLOLLOL


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Posted By: Butch
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2014 at 10:18pm
Originally posted by colemanY2K colemanY2K wrote:

Originally posted by Butch Butch wrote:

Originally posted by colemanY2K colemanY2K wrote:

All records of Russia's 2018 bid have been "accidentally" erased by FIFA

Also the Russians burnt the computers to cover their own tracks after they got the go ahead for 2018


Ah no way?!?!  LOLLOLLOL


No messing .. Them Russians want something they get it

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/world-cup/11228382/Fifa-report-Russia-admit-World-Cup-bid-evidence-gone-because-of-destroyed-computers.html


Posted By: colemanY2K
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2014 at 10:28pm
Originally posted by Butch Butch wrote:

Originally posted by colemanY2K colemanY2K wrote:

Originally posted by Butch Butch wrote:

Originally posted by colemanY2K colemanY2K wrote:

All records of Russia's 2018 bid have been "accidentally" erased by FIFA

Also the Russians burnt the computers to cover their own tracks after they got the go ahead for 2018


Ah no way?!?!  LOLLOLLOL


No messing .. Them Russians want something they get it

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/world-cup/11228382/Fifa-report-Russia-admit-World-Cup-bid-evidence-gone-because-of-destroyed-computers.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/world-cup/11228382/Fifa-report-Russia-admit-World-Cup-bid-evidence-gone-because-of-destroyed-computers.html

It's so farcical it's unbelievable. I can only laugh at the whole situation as it's so so outrageous.


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Posted By: Clonbhoy
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2014 at 2:12am
James Richardson's intro on Football Weekly; Qatar dismiss reports they areapplying to host next year's Wimbledon too as they don't like courts or two men having sets and they have no idea what a backhander is

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Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2014 at 3:10am
Originally posted by Clonbhoy Clonbhoy wrote:

James Richardson's intro on Football Weekly; Qatar dismiss reports they areapplying to host next year's Wimbledon too as they don't like courts or two men having sets and they have no idea what a backhander is




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Posted By: heighway2heaven
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2014 at 12:14pm
Apparently the computers for the Russia bid were being leased and have since been returned to the leasing company, who've since destroyed them.




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Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2015 at 4:02pm
Looking like this is going to be held in November/December 2022. European clubs will be delighted..not

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Posted By: RogerMilla
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2015 at 7:50pm
Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Looking like this is going to be held in November/December 2022. European clubs will be delighted..not


this is top news, either the clubs roll over and take it ( all in favour of letting these pricks know who's boss) or they cause ructions and bring fifa down , laissez les bons temps roulez 


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Posted By: Newryrep
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2015 at 7:55pm
Originally posted by RogerMilla RogerMilla wrote:

Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Looking like this is going to be held in November/December 2022. European clubs will be delighted..not



this is top news, either the clubs roll over and take it ( all in favour of letting these pricks know who's boss) or they cause ructions and bring fifa down , laissez les bons temps roulez 


carefull what you wish for RM, those clubs would like nothing better than international football to die a death be it under FIFA, UEFA or whoever

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Posted By: RogerMilla
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2015 at 8:03pm
Originally posted by Newryrep Newryrep wrote:

Originally posted by RogerMilla RogerMilla wrote:

Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Looking like this is going to be held in November/December 2022. European clubs will be delighted..not



this is top news, either the clubs roll over and take it ( all in favour of letting these pricks know who's boss) or they cause ructions and bring fifa down , laissez les bons temps roulez 


carefull what you wish for RM, those clubs would like nothing better than international football to die a death be it under FIFA, UEFA or whoever

newryep , i am resigned to the fact that it is goosed anyway , the premier league came out of FA intransigence and something is sure to happen here if the clubs go up against FIFA, it might be bad for international football but who knows, i find it hard to root for FIFA either.  




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Posted By: Newryrep
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2015 at 8:19pm
Originally posted by RogerMilla RogerMilla wrote:

newryep , i am resigned to the fact that it is goosed anyway , the premier league came out of FA intransigence and something is sure to happen here if the clubs go up against FIFA, it might be bad for international football but who knows, i find it hard to root for FIFA either.  




Say it aint so ?

Would Germany let it wither on the vine ?

Would Brazil ? even though they were humiliated during the summer, argentina Columbia ......

What other tournament(s) brings the world Europe,americas/asia together ? the Olympics ?    

who didn't stand watching the WC final (in my case in a lakeside village in Austria) knowing a large portion of the globe was watching ?

and I mean actually watching as opposed to the likes of the university Boat race that the BBC boasts is broadcast to X No of countries,

Feck your 'champions/Runner up/3rd place league finals

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Posted By: thebronze14
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2015 at 8:40pm
Originally posted by Newryrep Newryrep wrote:

Originally posted by RogerMilla RogerMilla wrote:

newryep , i am resigned to the fact that it is goosed anyway , the premier league came out of FA intransigence and something is sure to happen here if the clubs go up against FIFA, it might be bad for international football but who knows, i find it hard to root for FIFA either.  




Say it aint so ?

Would Germany let it wither on the vine ?

Would Brazil ? even though they were humiliated during the summer, argentina Columbia ......

What other tournament(s) brings the world Europe,americas/asia together ? the Olympics ?    

who didn't stand watching the WC final (in my case in a lakeside village in Austria) knowing a large portion of the globe was watching ?

and I mean actually watching as opposed to the likes of the university Boat race that the BBC boasts is broadcast to X No of countries,

Feck your 'champions/Runner up/3rd place league finals

ClapClapClap



Posted By: Landon Donovan
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2015 at 9:00pm
The English FA are obsessively protective of the lower leagues. There is no way they will stop League 1, 2 and the conference for 2 months. There would be many clubs struggling to survive. If they did let the lower leagues go ahead, imagine how pissy they would get if there were World Cup games at 3pm on a Saturday. It would be very likely too given the time difference.

Even the La Liga and Serie A clubs would be struggling to pay wages for 2 months with no football on.  I would imagine most clubs spend the first half of the season just trying to recoup the wages paid over the summer.

U.S TV would also be going up against the NFL on Sundays and in an important part of the season.

The best case scenario if Qatar does go ahead is that the big countries pull out and play an invitational tournament the next summer.






Posted By: RogerMilla
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2015 at 9:01pm
Originally posted by Newryrep Newryrep wrote:

 
Feck your 'champions/Runner up/3rd place league finals

agree 100% chief , but sadly the custodians of the world cup will be its undoing. 
maybe it might be able to start all over again once FIFA is brought down. 



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Posted By: RogerMilla
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2015 at 9:02pm
Originally posted by Landon Donovan Landon Donovan wrote:


The best case scenario if Qatar does go ahead is that the big countries pull out and play an invitational tournament the next summer.


and whoever runs that tournament then takes over the qualification process as well 


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Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2015 at 9:08pm
UEFA Connembol breakaway possibility I wonder ?

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Posted By: Bitored
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2015 at 9:45pm
This is going to be a massive issue right up to 2022.
I cant see clubs going along with a winter tournament as it would cause disruption to the most lucrative time of year in the big leagues i.e. the Christmas period. Even if a tournament was to be played end of November beginning of December it would still effect the Xmas period and the whole season.

How many divisions would stop? Conceivably some nations could be taking a lot of players out of the 2nd tiers of big European leagues and even lower down.

The whole thing is a mess.

The EPL has just signed a deal worth £5 Billion for the next 3 years up to 2019/2020. So its more than possible the next deal could be close to double that. That would be a £10 Billion animal going up against a month long tournament played in a scorching climate. Its still about 30 degrees out there in November. I think this is the fight big European leagues are licking their lips at.

I love the world cup its such a great occasion, but the UEFA Champions League is the biggest football tournament in the world. No contest. I don't think FIFA realises that's the tournament every player wants to play in. The World Cup is a nice bonus tournament in modern football. I don't think FIFA realises that.

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Posted By: dubstep
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2015 at 10:40pm
This world cup is going to be a joke, cant wait to see how many foreign born players will be playing for Qatar, already it appears FIFA are turning a blind eye as Qatar already have a Ghanaian and a French born lad playing for them even though they havent lived in the country more than a year or two, FIFA  are a farce and Qatars are an absolute embarrassment in the sports world. No doubt there will be back handers paid all round and Qatar will reach the final and probably win.


Posted By: Newryrep
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2015 at 11:08pm
Originally posted by dubstep dubstep wrote:

This world cup is going to be a joke, cant wait to see how many foreign born players will be playing for Qatar, already it appears FIFA are turning a blind eye as Qatar already have a Ghanaian and a French born lad playing for them even though they havent lived in the country more than a year or two, FIFA  are a farce and Qatars are an absolute embarrassment in the sports world. No doubt there will be back handers paid all round and Qatar will reach the final and probably win.


since Qatar frigging around with the FIFA rules previously necessitated new statutes being introduced I doubt they have tried it again

as to where you are born?................

Check out Danny invincles posts on this site and various others for eligibility issues esp the Foot.ie one   

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Posted By: Cabra Hoop
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2015 at 11:58pm
Still think they'll do a u-turn on Qatar.....England is ready.

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Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2015 at 12:26am
Originally posted by Cabra Hoop Cabra Hoop wrote:

Still think they'll do a u-turn on Qatar.....England is ready.


Nein

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Posted By: Green Devil
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2015 at 1:44am
In regard to Qatar fast tracking players into their national team set up, this is nothing new as they have being doing it for years.

Many countries do this, especially in Asia its rather common.

Qatar is already a hotbed for foreign talent from the likes of South America and Africa, so I'd fully expect plenty of non nationals to be lining out for them come 2022 seeing as it only takes 3 years to qualify for citizenship (already being mentioned about the fast track passports too) "but" in an honesty is a top prospect from Algeria, Tunisia or Ghana etc going to turn their country to play for Qatar? In a nutshell no, but they will get some lads on the fringes of these countries.



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Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2015 at 8:47am
Dates 26 November to 23 December



Not a bad way to KO Christmas holidays



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Posted By: SuperDave84
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2015 at 12:10pm
FIFA don't allow that any more, though, in terms of fast tracking. I think you have to have a certain amount of residence before FIFA allow you to play.

If only the Nepalese were good footballers, and not dying by the truckload, the Qataris would be set.


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Posted By: dubstep
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2015 at 12:28pm
If they dont allow fast tracking why is the French and Ghanan lad both allowed to play even though they have only lived there for about a year or two.


Posted By: dubstep
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2015 at 12:47pm
Just checked them there, they already have a Uruguayan, Brazillians, French, Algerian, Sudanese, Ghanan, Senegalese born players playing for there national team, by the time the world cup comes around they will probably have a full squad without any Qatar born players, absoloute joke that this can happen just because they play these foreign born players big money but I suppose the thing is the players arnt too great anyway.


Posted By: BlondeInGreen
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2015 at 1:46am
http://www.joe.ie/sport/qatar-heroes-the-story-of-how-ireland-won-the-2022-world-cup-at-christmas-time/486080


Posted By: Deane
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2015 at 4:26am
Originally posted by BlondeInGreen BlondeInGreen wrote:

http://www.joe.ie/sport/qatar-heroes-the-story-of-how-ireland-won-the-2022-world-cup-at-christmas-time/486080


That was one of the best things I have ever read. Them tweets are brilliant! In fact the whole thing is class.

Robbie has some tournament.


Posted By: Sham157
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2015 at 6:43am
Originally posted by BlondeInGreen BlondeInGreen wrote:

http://www.joe.ie/sport/qatar-heroes-the-story-of-how-ireland-won-the-2022-world-cup-at-christmas-time/486080
ClapClapClap great read at 06:40 on a tuesday morning


Posted By: SuperDave84
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2015 at 12:24pm
Baaaahahahahaha.

Roy Keane as the Pope, Kleberson managing Brazil, the twinning of the island with Saipan..... brilliant little touches.


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Posted By: OohAah...
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2015 at 1:21pm
quality


Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2016 at 8:07am
http://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2016/mar/31/i-feel-like-im-in-prison-qatars-abuse-of-world-cup-workers-revealed-video" rel="nofollow - http://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2016/mar/31/i-feel-like-im-in-prison-qatars-abuse-of-world-cup-workers-revealed-video

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Posted By: colemanY2K
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2017 at 12:58pm
Fifa hiding behind a rock hoping it all goes away!

Following yesterday's news this is a welcome development.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/jun/05/2022-world-cup-qatar-under-threat-saudi-arabia-blockade-fifa-football" rel="nofollow - http://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/jun/05/2022-world-cup-qatar-under-threat-saudi-arabia-blockade-fifa-football





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Posted By: lassassinblanc
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2017 at 1:06pm
Can see this getting taken off Qatar as soon as 2018 WC finishes.

England or Germany to the rescue


Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2017 at 1:07pm
Deutschland

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Posted By: colemanY2K
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2017 at 1:11pm
Hopefully Germany

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Posted By: lassassinblanc
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2017 at 1:19pm
Meant to add only stumbling block would be having it in Europe again..Looking at the Countries who bid for 2022

Australia- Only got 1 vote at time of vote I think if it was taken off Qatar they would make noise to host but while I think Australia will one day host it I think the European TV deals would hinder them

Japan- would have just hosted the 2019 Rugby WC and would most likely be able to step in without too much fuss, like Australia though timezone would be a massive complaint in it going here.

South Korea- Very similar to Japan, have experience hosting, currently doing the U20 WC.

USA- Could prob step in like Germany and England at short notice but what would that mean for their bid for 2026.


Posted By: Butch
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2017 at 1:23pm
Emirates not flying into Qatar as part of the ban ? Must be serious sh*t


Posted By: ConorMac77
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2017 at 1:25pm
Originally posted by lassassinblanc lassassinblanc wrote:

Can see this getting taken off Qatar as soon as 2018 WC finishes.

England or Germany to the rescue
Dunno about that actually happening, as much as I'd love it to...have another look at one of those sub-headlines in that report: 'FIFA, now sponsored by Qatar Airlines'....Disapprove


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Posted By: AbuAbu
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2017 at 1:31pm
Germany would be class. Easy to get there, great beer, great facilities. Slam dunk.

Beer in England is muck!!


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Posted By: AbuAbu
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2017 at 1:33pm
Originally posted by AbuAbu AbuAbu wrote:

Germany would be class. Easy to get there, great beer, great facilities. Slam dunk.

Beer in England is muck!!

Actually they should have it in Germany every timeBeer


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Posted By: lassassinblanc
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2017 at 1:34pm
Originally posted by ConorMac77 ConorMac77 wrote:

Originally posted by lassassinblanc lassassinblanc wrote:

Can see this getting taken off Qatar as soon as 2018 WC finishes.

England or Germany to the rescue
Dunno about that actually happening, as much as I'd love it to...have another look at one of those sub-headlines in that report: 'FIFA, now sponsored by Qatar Airlines'....Disapprove


I'd imagine a sponsorship deal is easy enough to get out of


Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2017 at 1:55pm
Originally posted by AbuAbu AbuAbu wrote:

Originally posted by AbuAbu AbuAbu wrote:

Germany would be class. Easy to get there, great beer, great facilities. Slam dunk.

Beer in England is muck!!


Actually they should have it in Germany every timeBeer





Should host every Olympics as well

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Posted By: ConorMac77
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2017 at 1:59pm
Originally posted by lassassinblanc lassassinblanc wrote:

Originally posted by ConorMac77 ConorMac77 wrote:

Originally posted by lassassinblanc lassassinblanc wrote:

Can see this getting taken off Qatar as soon as 2018 WC finishes.

England or Germany to the rescue
Dunno about that actually happening, as much as I'd love it to...have another look at one of those sub-headlines in that report: 'FIFA, now sponsored by Qatar Airlines'....Disapprove


I'd imagine a sponsorship deal is easy enough to get out of
Maybe, but God knows what sort of (probably very delicate) politics have been going on around that deal behind closed doors which could make it trickier to get out of regardless of the law. This is FIFA we're talking about after all, Blatter or no Blatter. LOL
 
Hope you're right though, regarding both that sponsorship deal and taking the tournament off Qatar.


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Posted By: willmcc83
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2017 at 2:19pm
Don't think this will have any influence on football. As much as we'd like this to be about FIFA corruption and human rights it's really about the conflicting interests of Qatar on one side and the great champions of human rights (Saudis, Bahrain and UAE) on the other..
 
A very localised dispute and the political pressure being imposed on them will probably have the desired result [for the Saudis]


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Posted By: colemanY2K
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2017 at 1:15pm
Wouldn't be surprised if the Saudis and their henchmen trigger a conflict. Things escalated last night...and there was what some describe as a coup earlier this week when the Saudi king announced his son as successor and shafting the previous chap. The son btw is supposedly a lunatic who is presiding over the debacle in Yemen etc.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/23/saudi-arabia-presents-demands-qatar-close-al-jazeera-cut-ties/" rel="nofollow - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/23/saudi-arabia-presents-demands-qatar-close-al-jazeera-cut-ties/

Such a nice chap this young fella is

http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/analysis-how-has-saudi-policy-under-new-crown-prince-impacted-yemen-1912105646" rel="nofollow - http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/analysis-how-has-saudi-policy-under-new-crown-prince-impacted-yemen-1912105646

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Posted By: colemanY2K
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2017 at 1:23pm
Another cracking read on the warmonger Mohammed bin Salman.

http://www.middleeasteye.net/columns/something-rotten-state-saudi-1943008007" rel="nofollow - http://www.middleeasteye.net/columns/something-rotten-state-saudi-1943008007

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Posted By: Cathalthesmart
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2017 at 4:53pm
I just can't believe Qatar are still hosting after what has happened recently, not to mention all the other idiotic reasons

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Posted By: deise316
Date Posted: 26 Jun 2017 at 10:41pm
German paper Bild has obtained the report into corruption over the awarding of the WC to Qatar, says it's going publishing the full details of it. This is the report that FIFA tried to suppress & lead to the resignation of the lead investigator. 

It really is amazing this thing was awarded, as a measure of just how corrupt this process was, Sepp Blatter wouldn't go near it, it was too murky for even him. 


http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/40412928" rel="nofollow - http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/40412928




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Posted By: DUBLIN DOC
Date Posted: 26 Jun 2017 at 11:47pm
When this is overturned it will probably rule Germany out of hosting it also for breaking the full story

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Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 27 Jun 2017 at 12:10am
There should be questions about next year's tournament going ahead in Russia too, although there is little realistic hope of a change of venue. The whole of their 2014 World Cup squad is being investigated for doping, which is hardly a huge surprise given the exposé of a state sponsored doping programme in recent times. What makes it worse is the fact that the sports minister who oversaw this has been severely punished for this by being promoted to Deputy Prime Minister.
This is to go along with the suspicions of bribery, the use of slave labour in building the stadia and the fact that the whole racism thing hasn't gone away.
Infantino has proved to be just as corrupt and useless as Blatter, the whole organisation needs to be stripped bare. One can only hope that the news from Bild will do just that but in reality nothing will really change.



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Posted By: deise316
Date Posted: 27 Jun 2017 at 12:22am
Germany are already in for the 2024 Euros as well, along with Turkey, UEFA have said something about human rights issues having to be addressed before a successful bid, which rules out Turkey, given Erdogan is arresting lads he doesn't like the look of on a regular basis. 

They probably could do a WC & Euros back to back without any great issues, but it is probably unlikely. Only thing that will move it from Qatar is if the sponsors collectively get spooked, depending on just how much corruption is in this report. That too is unlikely, because as PM points out, a fair proportion of the reasons the WC shouldn't be in Qatar could also be pointed in the direction of Russia, and that won't be happening at this late stage. 






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Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 27 Jun 2017 at 12:31am
Aussies could probably do it with a year or two notice

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Posted By: Zinedine Kilbane 110
Date Posted: 27 Jun 2017 at 6:44am
Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Aussies could probably do it with a year or two notice


USA and a few others could too but at the end of the day it's going to Qatar.
Every World Cup has been bought but the current price just makes it difficult to hide.

If Ireland qualify I fully expect 20,000 plus Irish people there.


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Posted By: Newryrep
Date Posted: 27 Jun 2017 at 6:59am
Originally posted by Zinedine Kilbane 110 Zinedine Kilbane 110 wrote:

Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Aussies could probably do it with a year or two notice


USA and a few others could too but at the end of the day it's going to Qatar.
Every World Cup has been bought but the current price just makes it difficult to hide.

If Ireland qualify I fully expect 20,000 plus Irish people there.


Can't see anywhere near that tbh , have little interest myself in going to a glorified theme park - all my hopes for a World Cup are on Russia

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Posted By: 9fingers
Date Posted: 27 Jun 2017 at 7:04am
Originally posted by Zinedine Kilbane 110 Zinedine Kilbane 110 wrote:

Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Aussies could probably do it with a year or two notice




If Ireland qualify I fully expect 20,000 plus Irish people there.

Not a f**king hope. Would struggle to get even half that


Posted By: Claret Murph
Date Posted: 27 Jun 2017 at 7:09am
Originally posted by Newryrep Newryrep wrote:

Originally posted by Zinedine Kilbane 110 Zinedine Kilbane 110 wrote:

Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Aussies could probably do it with a year or two notice


USA and a few others could too but at the end of the day it's going to Qatar.
Every World Cup has been bought but the current price just makes it difficult to hide.

If Ireland qualify I fully expect 20,000 plus Irish people there.


Can't see anywhere near that tbh , have little interest myself in going to a glorified theme park - all my hopes for a World Cup are on Russia
I can't see 20,000 also , maybe 4,000 all of whom will be housed in 5 star hotels at the cost of €350 a night Confused

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Posted By: colemanY2K
Date Posted: 27 Jun 2017 at 7:33am
Won't be going to Russia or Qatar. f**k them   

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Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 27 Jun 2017 at 8:27am
Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Aussies could probably do it with a year or two notice
At least you can be sure there will be no racism or homophobia there.........


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Posted By: Devrozex
Date Posted: 27 Jun 2017 at 9:23am
Originally posted by deise316 deise316 wrote:

It really is amazing this thing was awarded
 
You nearly just have to stand back and applaud the sheer audacity of it. It is the most blatant and obvious case of bribing the bejaysus out of someone/something in order to get something in return. Obviously FIFA is top heavy with absolute crooks, but it's not like they didn't know there would be a massive fall out from awarding a World Cup to Qatar. They knew full well - they just didn't give a flying f*ck.


Posted By: Cathalthesmart
Date Posted: 27 Jun 2017 at 9:26am
Not just winning but winning by the landslide they did (almost double the votes of 2nd place) kind of gives it away really.

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Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 27 Jun 2017 at 9:27am
Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Aussies could probably do it with a year or two notice
At least you can be sure there will be no racism or homophobia there.........


The Russians love having the craic as well.  Always laughing and smiling.


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Posted By: Zinedine Kilbane 110
Date Posted: 27 Jun 2017 at 10:15am
Originally posted by Claret Murph Claret Murph wrote:

Originally posted by Newryrep Newryrep wrote:

Originally posted by Zinedine Kilbane 110 Zinedine Kilbane 110 wrote:

Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Aussies could probably do it with a year or two notice


USA and a few others could too but at the end of the day it's going to Qatar.
Every World Cup has been bought but the current price just makes it difficult to hide.

If Ireland qualify I fully expect 20,000 plus Irish people there.


Can't see anywhere near that tbh , have little interest myself in going to a glorified theme park - all my hopes for a World Cup are on Russia
I can't see 20,000 also , maybe 4,000 all of whom will be housed in 5 star hotels at the cost of €350 a night Confused

If we don't qualify for Russia it will be 20 years since we have been in a World Cup.... demand will be huge.
People said Japan would cost a lot but we went as students and did it on the (relative) cheap.


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Posted By: Territorial
Date Posted: 27 Jun 2017 at 11:14am
Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Aussies could probably do it with a year or two notice
Doubt it.

It seems they presently only have 6 football-suitable stadia with a 40k+ capacity, with two of those in Sydney and two in Melbourne:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_soccer_stadiums_in_Australia" rel="nofollow - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_soccer_stadiums_in_Australia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_A-League_stadiums" rel="nofollow - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_A-League_stadiums


Posted By: Darraghn92
Date Posted: 27 Jun 2017 at 12:40pm
That's a list of their 12 proposed stadiums

http://www.austadiums.com/australiaworldcup/" rel="nofollow - http://www.austadiums.com/australiaworldcup/



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