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Topic: Stadiums with sh*t tv camera angles
Posted By: Trap junior
Subject: Stadiums with sh*t tv camera angles
Date Posted: 03 May 2014 at 10:30pm
Wembley  (too low)
Bernabeu  (too low)
Reebok Stadium (was too high, they have moved it now)


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Posted By: thebronze14
Date Posted: 03 May 2014 at 10:32pm
White Hart Lane


Posted By: sid waddell
Date Posted: 03 May 2014 at 10:50pm
Goodison Park and Ibrox used to have terrible camera angles. It was a thing that was unique to Protestant clubs, as Everton and Rangers are. 

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Posted By: Roberto Baggio
Date Posted: 03 May 2014 at 11:29pm
Spurs used to b ok but they change it to a ridiculously low angle for some games


Posted By: Landon Donovan
Date Posted: 03 May 2014 at 11:35pm
Old highbury and Filbert street were awful. A 20 harder from Filbert Street looked like a goal of the season contender. Highbury was a 20 yard tap in.


Posted By: IrwinClass
Date Posted: 03 May 2014 at 11:51pm
Originally posted by sid waddell sid waddell wrote:

Goodison Park and Ibrox used to have terrible camera angles. It was a thing that was unique to Protestant clubs, as Everton and Rangers are. 


Strange how a protestant club like Everton have had more Irish and catholic players play for them than most other clubs, including that other protestant club, Liverpool. Remind me again. When Ronnie Whelan played for Liverpool in 1981 was he the first or second Irish catholic to play for Liverpool. I always forget that one.




Posted By: GreenArmy!
Date Posted: 03 May 2014 at 11:52pm
When QPR got promoted about two years ago, if a player was on the wing nearest the camera at the half way line it seemed as if you were looking directly down on his head. Looked strange, think they added a few more cameras for close ups in those situations now though.


Posted By: AlanH
Date Posted: 03 May 2014 at 11:58pm
Originally posted by sid waddell sid waddell wrote:

Goodison Park and Ibrox used to have terrible camera angles. It was a thing that was unique to Protestant clubs, as Everton and Rangers are. 


Everton has always been a club with a strong Irish Catholic tradition. Are you sure you're not mixing them up with Liverpool FC?


Posted By: sid waddell
Date Posted: 03 May 2014 at 11:59pm
Originally posted by IrwinClass IrwinClass wrote:

Originally posted by sid waddell sid waddell wrote:

Goodison Park and Ibrox used to have terrible camera angles. It was a thing that was unique to Protestant clubs, as Everton and Rangers are. 


Strange how a protestant club like Everton have had more Irish and catholic players play for them than most other clubs, including that other protestant club, Liverpool. Remind me again. When Ronnie Whelan played for Liverpool in 1981 was he the first or second Irish catholic to play for Liverpool. I always forget that one.


It's well known that Eveton are the Protestant club in Liverpool, comrade - you only have to look at their colours, they play in blue, like Rangers. 

Liverpool are the socialist team, hence the red colours. 

Everton = Protestant, Unionist
Liverpool = Socialist, Internationalist and the team of choice of Irish Republicans




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Posted By: AlanH
Date Posted: 04 May 2014 at 12:13am
Originally posted by sid waddell sid waddell wrote:

Originally posted by IrwinClass IrwinClass wrote:

Originally posted by sid waddell sid waddell wrote:

Goodison Park and Ibrox used to have terrible camera angles. It was a thing that was unique to Protestant clubs, as Everton and Rangers are. 


Strange how a protestant club like Everton have had more Irish and catholic players play for them than most other clubs, including that other protestant club, Liverpool. Remind me again. When Ronnie Whelan played for Liverpool in 1981 was he the first or second Irish catholic to play for Liverpool. I always forget that one.



It's well known that Eveton are the Protestant club in Liverpool, comrade - you only have to look at their colours, they play in blue, like Rangers. 

Liverpool are the socialist team, hence the red colours. 

Everton = Protestant, Unionist
Liverpool = Socialist, Internationalist and the team of choice of Irish Republicans




It's well known? Really?

Both Merseyside clubs actually have Methodist origins. However, Everton developed strong Irish Catholic links in the 1950s with the likes of Tommy Eglington and Jimmy O'Neill at the club, as well as Johnny Carey managing them. In contrast, Livepool's history of signing Irish players was almost non-existent prior to the 1980s.

A a matter of interest, are all clubs that wear red socialist?!


Posted By: sid waddell
Date Posted: 04 May 2014 at 12:16am
Everton are a well-known* member of the "Blues Brothers" alliance, along with Rangers, Chelsea, Linfield, the Conservative and Unionist Party. the DUP and Fine Gael. 

*Known by the dogs on the street, just like it's known that Gerry Adams personally ordered the killing of Jean McConville.


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Posted By: AlanH
Date Posted: 04 May 2014 at 12:27am
Originally posted by sid waddell sid waddell wrote:

Everton are a well-known* member of the "Blues Brothers" alliance, along with Rangers, Chelsea, Linfield, the Conservative and Unionist Party. the DUP and Fine Gael. 

*Known by the dogs on the street, just like it's known that Gerry Adams personally ordered the killing of Jean McConville.


It's well-known that there's an alliance between Rangers, Chelsea and Linfield, but Everton do not form part of that group. Maybe you're aware of some connection that the rest of the general public are unaware of. Perhaps you could post up a link or two to substantiate this?


Posted By: sid waddell
Date Posted: 04 May 2014 at 12:38am

Everton and Rangers have been almost feeder clubs for each other over the years, and many players have played for both, like Trevor Steven, Gary Stevens, Duncan Ferguson, Michael Ball, Richard Gough, David Weir, Alex Cleland, and indeed managed both, such as Walter Smith. 

Contrast that to the Liverpool-Celtic connection, with Kenny Dalglish, Robbie Keane, Craig Bellamy and Gary Gillespie, and the never to be broken ties which were strengthened following Hillsborough, and reinforced during our superbly contested, but brilliantly sporting, both on and off the pitch, UEFA Cup ties in 1997 and 2003



Long live the socialist, internationalist Timmy Alliance. 

YNWA. Clap




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Posted By: coyne
Date Posted: 04 May 2014 at 12:52am
Originally posted by sid waddell sid waddell wrote:


Everton and Rangers have been almost feeder clubs for each other over the years, and many players have played for both, like Trevor Steven, Gary Stevens, Duncan Ferguson, Michael Ball, Richard Gough, David Weir, Alex Cleland, and indeed managed both, such as Walter Smith. 

Contrast that to the Liverpool-Celtic connection, with Kenny Dalglish, Robbie Keane, Craig Bellamy and Gary Gillespie, and the never to be broken ties which were strengthened following Hillsborough, and reinforced during our superbly contested, but brilliantly sporting, both on and off the pitch, UEFA Cup ties in 1997 and 2003



Long live the socialist, internationalist Timmy Alliance. 

YNWA. Clap



What you listed are just coincidences, true Celtic and Liverpool have a healthy relationship but Everton are the Irish club - Liverpool FC didn't even exist when the Irish were flocking to Everton-owned Anfield.
Also I don't think many Everton fans would actually care if they were protestant, they're not obsessed with sectarian wank.


Posted By: AlanH
Date Posted: 04 May 2014 at 12:55am
A cursory glance through Google images shows a similar array of scarves to signify the Everton - Celtic relationship, but well done on effort.

John Collins, David Moyes and Alan Stubbs will surely be airbrushed from the memory of all those staunch Unionists at Everton!

It's funny how some Liverpool fans in Ireland have a collective amnesia when it comes to the club's history. The role of John Houlding and the Freemasons in the development of the club is one that hardly sits comfortably with the ideals of socialism and Irish republicanism.

Not that it matters much to me as I don't support either Merseyside club. However, I suspect the "Timmy Alliance" comprises a handful of barstoolers somewhere!


Posted By: sid waddell
Date Posted: 04 May 2014 at 1:02am
It's a little known fact the the actual Warrenpoint bomb had "YNWA - there's only one Paisley" written on it. 

18 Brits went up with Mountbatten that day, one for every one of our league titles. 


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Posted By: sid waddell
Date Posted: 04 May 2014 at 1:04am
The above is satire by the way, for those too thick to understand. 

YNWA - There's only one Paisley. 


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Posted By: IrwinClass
Date Posted: 04 May 2014 at 1:06am


Irish coats of arms.


Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 04 May 2014 at 1:07am
Here's a list of protestant premier league clubs

» English Premier League Teams

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http://www.statto.com/football/teams/index/england/premier-league#" rel="nofollow">
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http://www.statto.com/football/teams/index/england/premier-league" rel="nofollow - - RESET

England http://www.statto.com/football/stats/england/premier-league/2013-2014" rel="nofollow - English Premier League
http://www.statto.com/football/teams/arsenal" rel="nofollow - Arsenal http://www.statto.com/football/teams/aston-villa" rel="nofollow - Aston Villa http://www.statto.com/football/teams/cardiff-city" rel="nofollow - Cardiff City
http://www.statto.com/football/teams/chelsea" rel="nofollow - Chelsea http://www.statto.com/football/teams/crystal-palace" rel="nofollow - Crystal Palace http://www.statto.com/football/teams/everton" rel="nofollow - Everton
http://www.statto.com/football/teams/fulham" rel="nofollow - Fulham http://www.statto.com/football/teams/hull-city" rel="nofollow - Hull City http://www.statto.com/football/teams/liverpool" rel="nofollow - Liverpool
http://www.statto.com/football/teams/manchester-city" rel="nofollow - Manchester City http://www.statto.com/football/teams/manchester-united" rel="nofollow - Manchester United http://www.statto.com/football/teams/newcastle-united" rel="nofollow - Newcastle United
http://www.statto.com/football/teams/norwich-city" rel="nofollow - Norwich City http://www.statto.com/football/teams/southampton" rel="nofollow - Southampton http://www.statto.com/football/teams/stoke-city" rel="nofollow - Stoke City
http://www.statto.com/football/teams/sunderland" rel="nofollow - Sunderland http://www.statto.com/football/teams/swansea-city" rel="nofollow - Swansea City http://www.statto.com/football/teams/tottenham-hotspur" rel="nofollow - Tottenham Hotspur
http://www.statto.com/football/teams/west-bromwich-albion" rel="nofollow - West Bromwich Albion http://www.statto.com/football/teams/west-ham-united" rel="nofollow - West Ham United  



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Posted By: IrwinClass
Date Posted: 04 May 2014 at 1:09am


Starry plough flag of Irish socialists.


Posted By: IrwinClass
Date Posted: 04 May 2014 at 1:12am


Kingdom of Meath flag.


Posted By: AlanH
Date Posted: 04 May 2014 at 1:14am
Originally posted by IrwinClass IrwinClass wrote:



Starry plough flag of Irish socialists.





Didn't Bertie Ahern describe himself as a "socialist" back around 2005?! Given that Bertie was a "Manc", I'm sure that didn't go down well with Liverpool's FC's large contingent of socialist Irish republican fans!


Posted By: IrwinClass
Date Posted: 04 May 2014 at 1:14am


Connacht flag.


Posted By: IrwinClass
Date Posted: 04 May 2014 at 1:15am


Munster flag.


Posted By: sid waddell
Date Posted: 04 May 2014 at 1:16am
Fact: Mo Johnston was the first Catholic to ever play for Everton.




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Posted By: IrwinClass
Date Posted: 04 May 2014 at 1:16am




Sunburst flag of Irish nationalists.


Posted By: sid waddell
Date Posted: 04 May 2014 at 1:19am
Originally posted by AlanH AlanH wrote:

Originally posted by IrwinClass IrwinClass wrote:



Starry plough flag of Irish socialists.





Didn't Bertie Ahern describe himself as a "socialist" back around 2005?! Given that Bertie was a "Manc", I'm sure that didn't go down well with Liverpool's FC's large contingent of socialist Irish republican fans!
Jim Larkin was a season ticket holder at Anfield  from 1910 to 1936 although he nearly got banned because he let other people use it in 1913.  He always said his proudest day was when he met Elisha Scott for a pre-match pint in 1931. 




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Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 04 May 2014 at 1:29am
Your club is more protestant than my club...EmbarrassedEmbarrassed


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Posted By: IrwinClass
Date Posted: 04 May 2014 at 1:33am
Blue is the only colour that can vie with green to be called the national colour of Ireland. Your ignorance knows no bounds, Sid.

Ah, Elisha Scott. Shame he never played for the FAI.


Posted By: sid waddell
Date Posted: 04 May 2014 at 1:59am
Originally posted by IrwinClass IrwinClass wrote:

Blue is the only colour that can vie with green to be called the national colour of Ireland. Your ignorance knows no bounds, Sid.

Ah, Elisha Scott. Shame he never played for the FAI.
Tell that to Newstalk when I won "Sports Master of the Universe" 2007*, demolishing their resident expert, Ciaran Murphy, in the process**. One of the questions in the final was: "What has traditionally been the Protestant football club in the city of Liverpool?***" to which I correctly answered "Everton". 

*I'm not making that up. 

**I don't like boasting, except when I'm drunk, which I am now. 

***This was not one of the questions. 









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Posted By: IrwinClass
Date Posted: 04 May 2014 at 2:06am


For your collection.


Posted By: IrwinClass
Date Posted: 04 May 2014 at 2:19am


These hats were all the rage back in the day. You'd look good with one of these on, Sid.


Posted By: Flanno7hi
Date Posted: 04 May 2014 at 8:32am
Haha top quality fishing Sid. I think they'll give you a show on discovery.

People arguing with Sid over which one is the Protestant Clun and which one is the Catholic club

Someone said club a is the "Irish club". They are both not Irish they are English. There are plenty of Irish clubs all around the country, much closer than Liverpool to most of ye. They could all do with the support.


Sid is a forum legend

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Posted By: BigStrongMan
Date Posted: 04 May 2014 at 8:54am
can someone give sid a hand with that net.? Monster catch

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Posted By: drog addict
Date Posted: 04 May 2014 at 8:56am
Superb work Sid

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Posted By: 9fingers
Date Posted: 04 May 2014 at 9:27am
best thread on here for quite some time


Posted By: nvidic
Date Posted: 04 May 2014 at 10:32am
Biggest haul in quite some time


Posted By: Roberto Baggio
Date Posted: 04 May 2014 at 10:43am
Brilliant satire Sid


Posted By: PanteirA
Date Posted: 04 May 2014 at 12:14pm
Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Your club is more protestant than my club...EmbarrassedEmbarrassed
this thread is an embarrassment to the casual Irish football fan


Posted By: sid waddell
Date Posted: 04 May 2014 at 12:30pm
Historical fact: the toffee was originally a sweet which could only be afforded by the upper-class Protestant families of Liverpool. This is where the phrase "toffee nosed" comes from. As Everton were the upper class Protestant club in the city of Liverpool, they got the nickname "the Toffees". 

Everton, as we all know, was founded by an Orangeman. As Liverpool, the club of the people, became more successful over the decades and the Everton fans became increasingly bitter at our success, we satirised their Orange history by calling them "the Lemons", and later, "the bitters". 

Like the word "boycott" (which of course comes from the decision of the local people in Mayo during the Land War to ostracise the cruel, heartless landlord Captain Boycott), these phrases don't come from nowhere. They have a historical basis. 


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Posted By: thebronze14
Date Posted: 04 May 2014 at 3:47pm
Sid....funniest poster on here by far!!


Posted By: irishmufc
Date Posted: 04 May 2014 at 4:06pm
Originally posted by thebronze14 thebronze14 wrote:

Sid....funniest poster on here by far!!

+1

LOLClap


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Posted By: IrwinClass
Date Posted: 04 May 2014 at 4:28pm
Originally posted by Flanno7hi Flanno7hi wrote:

Haha top quality fishing Sid. I think they'll give you a show on discovery.

People arguing with Sid over which one is the Protestant Clun and which one is the Catholic club

Someone said club a is the "Irish club". They are both not Irish they are English. There are plenty of Irish clubs all around the country, much closer than Liverpool to most of ye. They could all do with the support.


Sid is a forum legend


Quality fishing? The only thing Sid has caught is a bad case of the wums.

When a wum makes a false, incendiary statement you can either:

- Ignore them, say nothing and let the falsehood perpetuate and influence the ignorant mind.

- Challenge them and present the facts of the matter.

The truth has thankfully already been stated here that Everton and Liverpool were started by the same English Methodist folk. It has also been stated that Everton have the richer of the Irish heritage with more Irish international players representing them. Thankfully for posters who post the truth I learnt much of this from forums such as this one.

Before Sid got into his hilarious satirical yarns he made a simple incendiary statement in a thread on camera angles, linking Everton to Rangers. It is the myth he was told as a lad when he started supporting Liverpool. He felt the need to post this display of bitterness on the day that Everton lose to Liverpool's title rivals to scupper Liverpool's title hopes. Funniest poster on here? In the wum stakes, he's worse than Javier.


Posted By: danger here
Date Posted: 04 May 2014 at 6:09pm
Next up, Protestant clubs in Denmark have slightly squeakier turnstyles ffs  Wacko


Posted By: Shedite
Date Posted: 04 May 2014 at 6:23pm
Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Spurs used to b ok but they change it to a ridiculously low angle for some games
Sorry to go on topic, but re the White Hart Lane camera angle, the high camera position doesn't work for 3D, as you can't ave 3D looking down on someone's head so they have to use the lower angle for that. All Europa LEague games have to use this angle.


Posted By: corkery
Date Posted: 04 May 2014 at 8:15pm
The Italian ones can be awful over the race tracks. 

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Posted By: The Huntacha
Date Posted: 06 May 2014 at 9:40am
Hook line and sinker there LOL

Anyway WHL is the worst stadium view IMO, far too high up. Stamford Bridge around 2000 was cat also.


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Posted By: Flanno7hi
Date Posted: 07 May 2014 at 11:50am
Originally posted by IrwinClass IrwinClass wrote:

Originally posted by Flanno7hi Flanno7hi wrote:

Haha top quality fishing Sid. I think they'll give you a show on discovery.

People arguing with Sid over which one is the Protestant Clun and which one is the Catholic club

Someone said club a is the "Irish club". They are both not Irish they are English. There are plenty of Irish clubs all around the country, much closer than Liverpool to most of ye. They could all do with the support.


Sid is a forum legend


Quality fishing? The only thing Sid has caught is a bad case of the wums.

When a wum makes a false, incendiary statement you can either:

- Ignore them, say nothing and let the falsehood perpetuate and influence the ignorant mind.

- Challenge them and present the facts of the matter.

The truth has thankfully already been stated here that Everton and Liverpool were started by the same English Methodist folk. It has also been stated that Everton have the richer of the Irish heritage with more Irish international players representing them. Thankfully for posters who post the truth I learnt much of this from forums such as this one.

Before Sid got into his hilarious satirical yarns he made a simple incendiary statement in a thread on camera angles, linking Everton to Rangers. It is the myth he was told as a lad when he started supporting Liverpool. He felt the need to post this display of bitterness on the day that Everton lose to Liverpool's title rivals to scupper Liverpool's title hopes. Funniest poster on here? In the wum stakes, he's worse than Javier.

You were caught by the "wum" as you call him. Get over it, it's all in jest.

Well done Sid

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Posted By: sid waddell
Date Posted: 07 May 2014 at 12:01pm
IrwinClass doth protest too much. He is, literally, a Protest-ant, thus proving my point about Everton being a Protestant club. 

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Posted By: IrwinClass
Date Posted: 07 May 2014 at 3:57pm
Originally posted by Flanno7hi Flanno7hi wrote:

Originally posted by IrwinClass IrwinClass wrote:

Originally posted by Flanno7hi Flanno7hi wrote:

Haha top quality fishing Sid. I think they'll give you a show on discovery.

People arguing with Sid over which one is the Protestant Clun and which one is the Catholic club

Someone said club a is the "Irish club". They are both not Irish they are English. There are plenty of Irish clubs all around the country, much closer than Liverpool to most of ye. They could all do with the support.


Sid is a forum legend


Quality fishing? The only thing Sid has caught is a bad case of the wums.

When a wum makes a false, incendiary statement you can either:

- Ignore them, say nothing and let the falsehood perpetuate and influence the ignorant mind.

- Challenge them and present the facts of the matter.

The truth has thankfully already been stated here that Everton and Liverpool were started by the same English Methodist folk. It has also been stated that Everton have the richer of the Irish heritage with more Irish international players representing them. Thankfully for posters who post the truth I learnt much of this from forums such as this one.

Before Sid got into his hilarious satirical yarns he made a simple incendiary statement in a thread on camera angles, linking Everton to Rangers. It is the myth he was told as a lad when he started supporting Liverpool. He felt the need to post this display of bitterness on the day that Everton lose to Liverpool's title rivals to scupper Liverpool's title hopes. Funniest poster on here? In the wum stakes, he's worse than Javier.

You were caught by the "wum" as you call him. Get over it, it's all in jest.

Well done Sid


Get over it yourself. I wasn't caught by anything. Like I said, if no-one counters the wum then their misinformation is left unchallenged to influence the uneducated mind. Your post btw is complete wum itself. Bravo.


Posted By: IrwinClass
Date Posted: 07 May 2014 at 4:06pm
Originally posted by sid waddell sid waddell wrote:

IrwinClass doth protest too much. He is, literally, a Protest-ant, thus proving my point about Everton being a Protestant club. 


Your posts are libelous against me and Everton. I'm surprised the mods allow it to be honest. Fairly sectarian in nature as well.

A bitter Liverpool fan attacking their rival club and myself now as well because I know enough history to challenge them is not in good taste, even if some of you think it is acceptable under the guise of 'humour'.

I don't even support Everton. My only interest in them is because they have some good Irish players.


Posted By: Flanno7hi
Date Posted: 07 May 2014 at 5:29pm
Jesus wept.

wum hate that phrase.

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Posted By: sid waddell
Date Posted: 07 May 2014 at 6:11pm
The only charge of sectarianism that can be levelled at me is over which golfers I support - I'm a huge fan of Protestants Graeme McDowell and Darren Clarke and despise the Romish Catholic Rory McIlpube. 

As a Godless socialist I am of no religion. 



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Posted By: daithi
Date Posted: 07 May 2014 at 7:20pm
Originally posted by sid waddell sid waddell wrote:

The only charge of sectarianism that can be levelled at me is over which golfers I support - I'm a huge fan of Protestants Graeme McDowell and Darren Clarke and despise the Romish Catholic Rory McIlpube. 

As a Godless socialist I am of no religion. 

A good agnostic atheist LOL

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Posted By: IrwinClass
Date Posted: 07 May 2014 at 10:54pm
Originally posted by sid waddell sid waddell wrote:

The only charge of sectarianism that can be levelled at me is over which golfers I support - I'm a huge fan of Protestants Graeme McDowell and Darren Clarke and despise the Romish Catholic Rory McIlpube. 

As a Godless socialist I am of no religion. 



Here's a tip. Stop libellously throwing around the word Protestant to describe football clubs and people on forums.


Posted By: sid waddell
Date Posted: 07 May 2014 at 11:02pm
Originally posted by IrwinClass IrwinClass wrote:

Originally posted by sid waddell sid waddell wrote:

The only charge of sectarianism that can be levelled at me is over which golfers I support - I'm a huge fan of Protestants Graeme McDowell and Darren Clarke and despise the Romish Catholic Rory McIlpube. 

As a Godless socialist I am of no religion. 



Here's a tip. Stop libellously throwing around the word Protestant to describe football clubs and people on forums.
As far as my understanding of the law is concerned, I don't think I've started, as I'm pretty sure calling a person, group of persons or institution "Protestant" is not a libel. 

If Everton want to sue me anyway, the option remains open to them. 

I find your idea that calling an institution "Protestant" constitutes a libel to be sectarian, by the way, and I hope you'll retract it.


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Posted By: IrwinClass
Date Posted: 07 May 2014 at 11:34pm
Originally posted by sid waddell sid waddell wrote:

Originally posted by IrwinClass IrwinClass wrote:

Originally posted by sid waddell sid waddell wrote:

The only charge of sectarianism that can be levelled at me is over which golfers I support - I'm a huge fan of Protestants Graeme McDowell and Darren Clarke and despise the Romish Catholic Rory McIlpube. 

As a Godless socialist I am of no religion. 



Here's a tip. Stop libellously throwing around the word Protestant to describe football clubs and people on forums.
As far as my understanding of the law is concerned, I don't think I've started, as I'm pretty sure calling a person, group of persons or institution "Protestant" is not a libel. 

If Everton want to sue me anyway, the option remains open to them. 

I find your idea that calling an institution "Protestant" constitutes a libel to be sectarian, by the way, and I hope you'll retract it.


Showing your ignorance again. You need to look up the meaning of the word libel.

Here's one: anything that is defamatory or that maliciously or damagingly misrepresents.

Your continued misuse of this word to describe both football clubs and individuals is libelous. As far as the law is concerned and proving a libel there are certain requirements to be met if one is able and willing to do so. Let's put it this way. Write and publish it a national newspaper and we'll see if Everton do anything to you. I doubt they're monitoring this forum. You're libelous writings simply reflect poorly on this forum though.

As for your last sentence. Keep digging, wum. I'm not sure you even know what you're trying to say here.


Posted By: sid waddell
Date Posted: 07 May 2014 at 11:59pm
Originally posted by IrwinClass IrwinClass wrote:

Originally posted by sid waddell sid waddell wrote:

Originally posted by IrwinClass IrwinClass wrote:

Originally posted by sid waddell sid waddell wrote:

The only charge of sectarianism that can be levelled at me is over which golfers I support - I'm a huge fan of Protestants Graeme McDowell and Darren Clarke and despise the Romish Catholic Rory McIlpube. 

As a Godless socialist I am of no religion. 



Here's a tip. Stop libellously throwing around the word Protestant to describe football clubs and people on forums.
As far as my understanding of the law is concerned, I don't think I've started, as I'm pretty sure calling a person, group of persons or institution "Protestant" is not a libel. 

If Everton want to sue me anyway, the option remains open to them. 

I find your idea that calling an institution "Protestant" constitutes a libel to be sectarian, by the way, and I hope you'll retract it.


Showing your ignorance again. You need to look up the meaning of the word libel.

Here's one: anything that is defamatory or that maliciously or damagingly misrepresents.

Your continued misuse of this word to describe both football clubs and individuals is libelous. As far as the law is concerned and proving a libel there are certain requirements to be met if one is able and willing to do so. Let's put it this way. Write and publish it a national newspaper and we'll see if Everton do anything to you. I doubt they're monitoring this forum. You're libelous writings simply reflect poorly on this forum though.

As for your last sentence. Keep digging, wum. I'm not sure you even know what you're trying to say here.
You'll note that I merely called Everton " the Protestant club" in Liverpool. I didn't say they were exclusively Protestant, hence my noting of Mo Johnston playing for them. 

Why stop there? Why not say I'm libelling Liverpool for associating them with socialism? 

Why do you find one libellous and the other not to be? There are plenty of people out there who would find being labelled "socialist" as injurious to their reputation. 

Again you're attaching negative connotations to Protestantism, and I find these connotations to be sectarian. 

Please stop. 


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Date Posted: 08 May 2014 at 12:01am


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Posted By: IrwinClass
Date Posted: 08 May 2014 at 12:14am
Originally posted by sid waddell sid waddell wrote:

Originally posted by IrwinClass IrwinClass wrote:

Originally posted by sid waddell sid waddell wrote:

Originally posted by IrwinClass IrwinClass wrote:

Originally posted by sid waddell sid waddell wrote:

The only charge of sectarianism that can be levelled at me is over which golfers I support - I'm a huge fan of Protestants Graeme McDowell and Darren Clarke and despise the Romish Catholic Rory McIlpube. 

As a Godless socialist I am of no religion. 



Here's a tip. Stop libellously throwing around the word Protestant to describe football clubs and people on forums.
As far as my understanding of the law is concerned, I don't think I've started, as I'm pretty sure calling a person, group of persons or institution "Protestant" is not a libel. 

If Everton want to sue me anyway, the option remains open to them. 

I find your idea that calling an institution "Protestant" constitutes a libel to be sectarian, by the way, and I hope you'll retract it.


Showing your ignorance again. You need to look up the meaning of the word libel.

Here's one: anything that is defamatory or that maliciously or damagingly misrepresents.

Your continued misuse of this word to describe both football clubs and individuals is libelous. As far as the law is concerned and proving a libel there are certain requirements to be met if one is able and willing to do so. Let's put it this way. Write and publish it a national newspaper and we'll see if Everton do anything to you. I doubt they're monitoring this forum. You're libelous writings simply reflect poorly on this forum though.

As for your last sentence. Keep digging, wum. I'm not sure you even know what you're trying to say here.
You'll note that I merely called Everton " the Protestant club" in Liverpool. I didn't say they were exclusively Protestant, hence my noting of Mo Johnston playing for them. 

Why stop there? Why not say I'm libelling Liverpool for associating them with socialism? 

Why do you find one libellous and the other not to be? There are plenty of people out there who would find being labelled "socialist" as injurious to their reputation. 

Again you're attaching negative connotations to Protestantism, and I find these connotations to be sectarian. 

Please stop. 


You're really not the sharpest tool, are you?

Your libel against them is yourself calling them a Protestant club. This is a lie. You are maliciously misrepresenting them by saying that they are a sectarian organisation when you know this to be false.

This is what you said. Couldn't be any more clear.
"It was a thing that was unique to Protestant clubs, as Everton and Rangers are. "

As far as I'm aware I haven't made any comments one way or the other on your other ramblings and the truth of them or not. Good attempt at a strawman though.




Posted By: sid waddell
Date Posted: 08 May 2014 at 12:21am
Originally posted by IrwinClass IrwinClass wrote:

Originally posted by sid waddell sid waddell wrote:

Originally posted by IrwinClass IrwinClass wrote:

Originally posted by sid waddell sid waddell wrote:

Originally posted by IrwinClass IrwinClass wrote:

Originally posted by sid waddell sid waddell wrote:

The only charge of sectarianism that can be levelled at me is over which golfers I support - I'm a huge fan of Protestants Graeme McDowell and Darren Clarke and despise the Romish Catholic Rory McIlpube. 

As a Godless socialist I am of no religion. 



Here's a tip. Stop libellously throwing around the word Protestant to describe football clubs and people on forums.
As far as my understanding of the law is concerned, I don't think I've started, as I'm pretty sure calling a person, group of persons or institution "Protestant" is not a libel. 

If Everton want to sue me anyway, the option remains open to them. 

I find your idea that calling an institution "Protestant" constitutes a libel to be sectarian, by the way, and I hope you'll retract it.


Showing your ignorance again. You need to look up the meaning of the word libel.

Here's one: anything that is defamatory or that maliciously or damagingly misrepresents.

Your continued misuse of this word to describe both football clubs and individuals is libelous. As far as the law is concerned and proving a libel there are certain requirements to be met if one is able and willing to do so. Let's put it this way. Write and publish it a national newspaper and we'll see if Everton do anything to you. I doubt they're monitoring this forum. You're libelous writings simply reflect poorly on this forum though.

As for your last sentence. Keep digging, wum. I'm not sure you even know what you're trying to say here.
You'll note that I merely called Everton " the Protestant club" in Liverpool. I didn't say they were exclusively Protestant, hence my noting of Mo Johnston playing for them. 

Why stop there? Why not say I'm libelling Liverpool for associating them with socialism? 

Why do you find one libellous and the other not to be? There are plenty of people out there who would find being labelled "socialist" as injurious to their reputation. 

Again you're attaching negative connotations to Protestantism, and I find these connotations to be sectarian. 

Please stop. 


You're really not the sharpest tool, are you?

Your libel against them is yourself calling them a Protestant club. This is a lie. You are maliciously misrepresenting them by saying that they are a sectarian organisation when you know this to be false.

This is what you said. Couldn't be any more clear.
"It was a thing that was unique to Protestant clubs, as Everton and Rangers are. "

As far as I'm aware I haven't made any comments one way or the other on your other ramblings and the truth of them or not. Good attempt at a strawman though.


On the contrary, my friend. I'm sharper than shark's teeth. 

You've brought up nothing new there. Try again. 


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Posted By: sid waddell
Date Posted: 08 May 2014 at 12:25am
By the way, in saying that I'm sharp, as a Liverpool fan, I'd just like to disassociate myself from the former Everton centre-forward Graeme and from the Manchester United shirt sponsors from 1983-2000. 

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Posted By: darmack
Date Posted: 08 May 2014 at 12:44am
Originally posted by sid waddell sid waddell wrote:

By the way, in saying that I'm sharp, as a Liverpool fan, I'd just like to disassociate myself from the former Everton centre-forward Graeme and from the Manchester United shirt sponsors from 1983-2000. 

Don't forget about Lee.


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Posted By: darmack
Date Posted: 08 May 2014 at 12:45am
But on a serious note....Fine work Sid.

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Posted By: Flanno7hi
Date Posted: 08 May 2014 at 3:31pm
Originally posted by darmack darmack wrote:

But on a serious note....Fine work Sid.
Clap Can't believe this lad.
There must be some bait on Sid's hook if Irwin keeps jumping back into the boat after he's been released.


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Posted By: tribalarmy
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2014 at 8:02pm
Very low angle at Turf Moor. Especially compared to the Barca game on SS5.


Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2014 at 8:36pm
Barootal

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Posted By: Landon Donovan
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2014 at 8:41pm
Its hard to see what is going on in the box when the ball gets played behind. You cant see through people. Its probably something to do with the sideline advertisements.

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Posted By: Roberto Baggio
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2014 at 9:11am
noticed this myself last night when the game kicked off. 
Was more like Upton Park 


Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2014 at 11:46pm
Have they changed the camera angle at Villa Park seems to be a bit higher

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Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2014 at 10:03pm
Allianz arena is pants as is the Bernabeu

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Posted By: tribalarmy
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2015 at 9:06pm
Fratton Park



Posted By: OnTheOneRoad
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2015 at 9:19pm
that game is making me nauseous watching it


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Posted By: Doyler1993
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2015 at 10:50pm
Horrible angle to watch a game at on tv. Dead

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Posted By: 9fingers
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2015 at 10:56pm
The camera man was double jobbing as the right full!


Posted By: Landon Donovan
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2015 at 1:00am
Thats not acceptable for a live football game


Posted By: Devrozex
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2015 at 10:29am
Originally posted by tribalarmy tribalarmy wrote:

Fratton Park

 
To be included in the new FIFA game as a tribute to a creative director of the game who passed away in April. I wonder if sh*te camera angle will also be included?
 
http://www.portsmouthfc.co.uk/news/article/pompeys-fratton-park-ground-to-appear-in-fifa-16-2590754.aspx" rel="nofollow - http://www.portsmouthfc.co.uk/news/article/pompeys-fratton-park-ground-to-appear-in-fifa-16-2590754.aspx
 


Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 16 Aug 2015 at 11:40am
Why does the camera angle at White Hart Lane change so often?


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Posted By: corkery
Date Posted: 16 Aug 2015 at 12:23pm
Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Why does the camera angle at White Hart Lane change so often?

There's pillars in the stand.


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Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 16 Aug 2015 at 12:27pm
Originally posted by corkery corkery wrote:

Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Why does the camera angle at White Hart Lane change so often?

There's pillars in the stand.


No it goes from being too high to too low and yesterday it was somewhere in between.


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Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2017 at 8:05pm
Anfield.  Barootal angle.  Too high. 

Why can't stadium designers recognise that there is an optimum camera angle for viewers on tv and make sure they build a television gantry to ensure this angle?  The gantry doesn't have to be underside of the roof. Idiots. 
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Posted By: Shoco
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2017 at 8:27pm
Because stadiums are built for people who actually go to games, hence the need for a stadium to begin with

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Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2017 at 8:43pm
Originally posted by Shoco Shoco wrote:

Because stadiums are built for people who actually go to games, hence the need for a stadium to begin with


The implication being I don't go to games is it?
I go to games where my team is playing.  I don't go to other games just like a Man Utd fan won't go to Liverpool games but would watch it if it's on tv. 

Anyway your point is nonsense.





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Posted By: Shoco
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2017 at 10:47pm
No my point is stadiums are designed for spectators, not to viewers, it's a simple concept

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Posted By: irishmufc
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2017 at 10:53pm
I don't think it's a sh*t angle but takes a bit of getting used to. 

I prefer the old angle at Anfield  from a tv viewer perspective as it was closer and lower angle a la Highbury for e.g.


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Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2017 at 10:56pm
Originally posted by Shoco Shoco wrote:

No my point is stadiums are designed for spectators, not to viewers, it's a simple concept


So you are saying they have to be mutually exclusive options? Liverpool built a brand new multi million pound stand. You telling me that building a camera position at the correct angle would put out the fans?   Then tell me why there are multiple cameras around the stadium such as those monitoring the goal lines and reverse camera angles etc?  Amazing that they can be accommodated without a problem! 
Also can you tell me why other stadiums who had sh*t camera angles were able to move them to more ideal locations?  E.g Bolton Wanderers.




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Posted By: Shoco
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2017 at 11:30pm
It's only your opinion it's a sh*t camera angle, not a fact, and much like you opinion on goal stanchions, it's worthless to the people that design them

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Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2017 at 11:43pm
Originally posted by Shoco Shoco wrote:

It's only your opinion it's a sh*t camera angle, not a fact, and much like you opinion on goal stanchions, it's worthless to the people that design them


It is an opinion that carries much weight.  As for goal stanchion technology that is a more serious issue that has turned fans away from the game.  If you care about the game, which you evidently don't then you should be concerned about the stanchion trend in modern football.


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Posted By: irishmufc
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2017 at 11:45pm
LOL 

ffs talk about a non-issue LOL

An awful lot of needless energy wasted on your digits posting about this when you could put it to better use on a right hand date.


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Posted By: FrankosHereNow
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2017 at 11:58pm
In fairness, the new TV camera angle in Anfield is terrible. It looked much better when they had the old stand.

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Posted By: Landon Donovan
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2017 at 1:49am
the Camera should have been put on the tier below.







Posted By: Shedite
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2017 at 8:59am
If they get in the CL next season they'll need to move it. CL group stage requires gantries that are 3D-video capable, and that has a minimum angle. Spurs had to do it when they were in the CL.


Posted By: ShamtheRam
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2017 at 11:38am
Agree about Anfield. New angle is awful.

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Posted By: planning
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2017 at 1:08pm
The angle is poor, even though it better shows the viewer how many away team players are camped in their own box, when the ball comes near them. It's rarely less than 10.
It's the first change of camera angle at Anfield since 1972, when the camera was in the opposite stand. When it is moved at a later date, it could be at ground level, similiar to the Allianz Arena which would be even worse.


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Posted By: irishmufc
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2017 at 1:15pm
Originally posted by planning planning wrote:

The angle is poor, even though it better shows the viewer how many away team players are camped in their own box, when the ball comes near them. It's rarely less than 10.
It's the first change of camera angle at Anfield since 1972, when the camera was in the opposite stand. When it is moved at a later date, it could be at ground level, similiar to the Allianz Arena which would be even worse.
 
Cry me a river LOL
 
You mean away teams go to Anfield and actually play defensively and keep it tight? Who'd have thought?! 


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Posted By: planning
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2018 at 12:16pm
Originally posted by Shedite Shedite wrote:

If they get in the CL next season they'll need to move it. CL group stage requires gantries that are 3D-video capable, and that has a minimum angle. Spurs had to do it when they were in the CL.

Liverpool did make it, and the camera angle hasn't changed.

I wonder if the requirements did.


Posted By: newrynyuk
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2018 at 2:20pm
Stadiums with rubbish TV camera positions?  Surprising nobody's mentioned Wembley.
 
The kick-off of the second half of EVERY SINGLE MATCH at Wembley is to a background of empty seats, because corporate ticket holders are too busy stuffing their faces with food and drink to get back to the game starting.  Why can't Wembley simply move the cameras to the other side, where presumably there wouldn't be as many empty seats at the restart. 


Posted By: SuperDave84
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2018 at 11:38pm
Yeah, it's shocking. Those seats are, as far as I know, all Club Wembley tickets. That means, I think, that they aren't necessarily fans of the clubs in question, just those who commit to buying tickets to both cup semi finals, the final and England internationals. Assuming I'm right on that, it makes sense that there would be so many empty seats for the semi finals.


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Posted By: Shedite
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2018 at 9:15am
Originally posted by SuperDave84 SuperDave84 wrote:

Yeah, it's shocking. Those seats are, as far as I know, all Club Wembley tickets. That means, I think, that they aren't necessarily fans of the clubs in question, just those who commit to buying tickets to both cup semi finals, the final and England internationals. Assuming I'm right on that, it makes sense that there would be so many empty seats for the semi finals.
That's the Bobby Moore Club apparently - £8k a year 
http://www.clubwembley.com/memberships/bobby-moore-club" rel="nofollow - http://www.clubwembley.com/memberships/bobby-moore-club



Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2018 at 10:28am
Blackburn's new camera position


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