Radical new league structure
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Topic: Radical new league structure
Posted By: AnCearrbhach
Subject: Radical new league structure
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2013 at 4:06pm
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A couple of weeks ago I wrote an article for The LOI Blog that got a decent bit of attention both positive and negative. Was wondering what you guys thought. http://www.theloiblog.com/NewsStory.aspx?n=803" rel="nofollow - http://www.theloiblog.com/NewsStory.aspx?n=803 ------------- Aithníonn ciaróg ciaróg eile. |
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Posted By: roverstillidie
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2013 at 8:15pm
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Interesting and kudos for getting off your arse and trying for change. However, if punters aren't interested in Bohs v Pats, will Bohs v Mervue have them flocking? No relegation there either which I think is a recipe for mediocrity. |
Posted By: Landon Donovan
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2013 at 10:35pm
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Absolutely fantastic. I love this idea. The only thing I would slightly tinker with is to avoid the regional divisions and replace it will a seeding system. I would make it regional for the first season but for future seasons I would make the 2 leagues to be drawn at the start of the season. How you finished in the league will define where you are seeded. Just say we had Conference 1 and Conference 2. If your team finished 5th in Conference 1 in Season 1, then you will be seeded 5th to be drawn into Conference 1 or Conference 2 the next season. So for example if the leagues in season 1 ended up like Conference 1 1. Pats 2. Bohs 3. Shamrock 4. Drogs 5. UCD etc Conference 2 1. Sligo 2. Limerick 3. Cork 4. Waterford 5. Cobh etc Then for Season 2 the league will be drawn as Conference 1 1. Pats or Sligo 2. Bohs or Limerick 3. Shamrock or Cork Conference 2 1. Pats or Sligo 2. Bohs or Limerick 3. Shamrock or Cork I feel that in that way that every game right up to the last day of the season will mean something for every team. Even if you end up winning the tournament, you will still be seeded as you finished. This will help keep the integrity of the league when the top teams are qualified for the play offs. I think if we regionalize it, it could get lob-sided in regard to quality. Overall I think it is a brilliant idea. The league as it is, is extremely dull and lacks consistent big games. Slow drawn out leagues are not viewer or fan friendly. |
Posted By: MayoMark
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2013 at 10:51pm
A playoff system would be absolutely class, love this idea  ------------- They finally did it man... They killed my f**kin' car... |
Posted By: tribalarmy
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2013 at 10:54pm
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Play offs A 3 year average system for relegation. 
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Posted By: thebronze14
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2013 at 11:52pm
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Was featured on the Harps forum I'm on and got only positive feedback...We would fully support it, fair play man
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Posted By: corkery
Date Posted: 27 Sep 2013 at 10:53am
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No, it's terrible. I like going to Pats and Derry not Bray and UCD. ------------- 'The younger generation as in 17 -25 are certainly gayer than their predecessors. I think they may cause the extinction of the human race with their activities.'- Baldrick |
Posted By: Saint Tom
Date Posted: 27 Sep 2013 at 12:00pm
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Only losers want to change the system ------------- My destination inchicore my next stop being kilmainham Where patriots and super saints are the topics of conversation |
Posted By: drog addict
Date Posted: 27 Sep 2013 at 12:11pm
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Great idea, the league needs a kick up the arse. ------------- Chips don't bounce |
Posted By: Saint Tom
Date Posted: 27 Sep 2013 at 12:24pm
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Sure the league is so sh*t this year it's not even worth winning ------------- My destination inchicore my next stop being kilmainham Where patriots and super saints are the topics of conversation |
Posted By: ebook
Date Posted: 27 Sep 2013 at 1:35pm
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No to Championship Play-Offs |
Posted By: AnCearrbhach
Date Posted: 27 Sep 2013 at 2:56pm
These are two very contradictory statements. Thanks for the kind words lads. Like the idea of the seeding only issue would be increased cost for travel expenses, great idea though. At some point we have to accept that Irish people just dont like leagues, blame it on the GAA or whatever you want but its just a fact. ------------- Aithníonn ciaróg ciaróg eile. |
Saint Tom wrote:Posted By: planning
Date Posted: 27 Sep 2013 at 3:24pm
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Playoffs?? Even the English hate them. No thanks. ------------- VAR: Cutting the crap out of football. |
Posted By: horsebox
Date Posted: 27 Sep 2013 at 3:39pm
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Posted By: Dukla
Date Posted: 27 Sep 2013 at 4:03pm
Sorry, I think it's an awful idea. Wild cards, playoffs, Conferences & No Relegation, Stinks of the American sports' system  , Might as well bring back Sporting Franchise while we're at it.------------- 
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Posted By: MayoMark
Date Posted: 27 Sep 2013 at 4:06pm
------------- They finally did it man... They killed my f**kin' car... |
Posted By: roverstillidie
Date Posted: 27 Sep 2013 at 4:17pm
So how will changing the league format alter this?
As an old school Rovers fan I know says, you could be handing out free rides at the LoI and most of the 'best fans in the world' (tm) still would have no interest.
I think people simply need to realise that while there are obvious flaws and grounds for improvement, the LoI is a good standard for a country of our size, the best supported league on the island and this is as good as it gets.
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Posted By: MayoMark
Date Posted: 27 Sep 2013 at 4:26pm
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It is still a very long league structure alright. Are you banking on the playoff series attracting bigger crowds because of the nature of knockout?
------------- They finally did it man... They killed my f**kin' car... |
Posted By: Saint Tom
Date Posted: 27 Sep 2013 at 4:54pm
------------- My destination inchicore my next stop being kilmainham Where patriots and super saints are the topics of conversation |
Posted By: Dukla
Date Posted: 27 Sep 2013 at 5:40pm
No but sports in the US of A does. NFL system is excellent  ..... Average team only plays 16 games, season is 4 months long.-------------
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Posted By: Landon Donovan
Date Posted: 27 Sep 2013 at 6:55pm
Mother of jaysis
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Posted By: planning
Date Posted: 27 Sep 2013 at 6:57pm
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16 team league, 10 team league, 12 team league, 4 round series, 3 round series, top 6, playoffs. Almost every possibility has been tried with, making no difference. We don't need to change structure, we need good stadiums, effective promotion, good scheduling, lower ticket prices, thorough and comprehensive tv/media coverage. That extends to more than 5 minute musical highlights three days after games are played, and a 6-inch column in the local paper. But inertia rules supreme and while it does, the league won't improve. ------------- VAR: Cutting the crap out of football. |
Posted By: AnCearrbhach
Date Posted: 27 Sep 2013 at 7:14pm
Playoff structure/Less dead heat games/less repitition is where I believe crowds will improve and obviously there is the risk of poor attendances for some games. Playoff systems have been implemented successfully in Europe eg. Belgium. Also as regards stadia I dont think the build it and they will come idea works on its own as displayed this year by Limerick ------------- Aithníonn ciaróg ciaróg eile. |
Posted By: decjordan
Date Posted: 05 Nov 2013 at 12:33pm
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Great minds think alike perhaps: http://www.sportseconomics.org/2/post/2013/11/a-radical-proposal-for-change-in-the-league-of-ireland.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.sportseconomics.org/2/post/2013/11/a-radical-proposal-for-change-in-the-league-of-ireland.html |