World War 3 USSR v USA/Ukraine
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Posted By: Trap junior
Subject: World War 3 USSR v USA/Ukraine
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2013 at 11:58pm
Will Sham Productions be covering this in a pay per view extravaganza?
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Posted By: liam_in_germany
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2013 at 11:59pm
Posted By: Dear Leader Junior
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2013 at 12:02am
Posted By: Hoosay
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2013 at 1:18am
All this messing around is annoying, they should just get on with it.
sh*t or get off the pot Kim (if you're reading this).
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Posted By: Kim Wilde Boy
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2013 at 1:57am
Dear Leader Junior wrote:
Yu vil agh dy.
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Fack you you imposter. Ay bet its Arec Badwin or Crint Eastwood.
I am Kim but I also rike to boogie down 80's styre.
''We're re kids in America''
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Posted By: NewrycityonTour
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2013 at 8:10am
Wouldn't be a world war. The Russians and Chinese want nothing to do with it and those North Koreans would get a. hammering by the Americans. If this keeps going the way of conflict we will see a united Korea.
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Posted By: Landon Donovan
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2013 at 9:04am
Are the left wing wierdos protesting outside the US Embassy yet? Its one thing getting rid of Saddam or The Taliban but an attack on their beloved communism
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Posted By: c90
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2013 at 9:29am
Landon Donovan wrote:
Are the left wing wierdos protesting outside the US Embassy yet? Its one thing getting rid of Saddam or The Taliban but an attack on their beloved communism |
Not democratic so not communism. why wouldnt the left wing weirdos want to get rid of an authoritarian government that has half the country starving ?
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Posted By: seanyshuffler
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2013 at 9:33am
In all fairness no Communist regime is democratic, unfortunately.
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Posted By: c90
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2013 at 9:36am
seanyshuffler wrote:
In all fairness no 'Communist' regime has been democratic |
there has never been a proper communist state introduced.
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Posted By: Landon Donovan
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2013 at 9:36am
c90 wrote:
Landon Donovan wrote:
Are the left wing wierdos protesting outside the US Embassy yet? Its one thing getting rid of Saddam or The Taliban but an attack on their beloved communism |
Not democratic so not communism. why wouldnt the left wing weirdos want to get rid of an authoritarian government that has half the country starving ?
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They didnt want to get rid of the Taliban
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Posted By: seanyshuffler
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2013 at 9:42am
c90 wrote:
seanyshuffler wrote:
In all fairness no 'Communist' regime has been democratic |
there has never been a proper communist state introduced.
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Don't think there ever will be either. Utopian idea, just like a pure capitalist state.
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Posted By: c90
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2013 at 10:00am
Landon Donovan wrote:
c90 wrote:
Landon Donovan wrote:
Are the left wing wierdos protesting outside the US Embassy yet? Its one thing getting rid of Saddam or The Taliban but an attack on their beloved communism |
Not democratic so not communism. why wouldnt the left wing weirdos want to get rid of an authoritarian government that has half the country starving ?
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They didnt want to get rid of the Taliban |
yes they did in the same way the wanted Mubarak out. and the current set up there now or at least its constitution
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Posted By: Hoosay
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2013 at 11:14am
Landon Donovan wrote:
c90 wrote:
Landon Donovan wrote:
Are the left wing wierdos protesting outside the US Embassy yet? Its one thing getting rid of Saddam or The Taliban but an attack on their beloved communism |
Not democratic so not communism.
why wouldnt the left wing weirdos want to get rid of an authoritarian government that has half the country starving ?
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They didnt want to get rid of the Taliban |
Who is "they"?
Most left wing weirdos supported the invasion of Afghanistan and getting rid of the Taliban.
The vast majority of left wing weirdos supported getting rid of Saddam, they supported it back in the 80's when the very same right wing weirdos who put the plan together to overthrown him were busy propping him up, they supported it when he invaded Kuwait and msny of the same right wing weirdos decded to leave him in power.
The people who protested against the war were protesting because it was illegal and because the US and UK governments were lying about why they were invading, and because they didn't wanted the job in Afghanistan finshed first, they weren't protesting because they supported Saddam (there are of course exceptions, George Galloway being one).
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Posted By: Landon Donovan
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2013 at 11:16am
Hoosay wrote:
Who is "they"?
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People that stand outside embassy's protesting. The Richard Boyd-Barretts of the world
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Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2013 at 11:41am
Landon Donovan wrote:
Hoosay wrote:
Who is "they"?
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People that stand outside embassy's protesting. The Richard Boyd-Barretts of the world |
I'm still awaiting to see his protests outside the Russian embassy in relation to Syria wouldn't be holding my breath though given the likes of him only seem to protest if there's US involvment.
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Posted By: irishmufc
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2013 at 11:48am
Denis Irwin wrote:
Landon Donovan wrote:
Hoosay wrote:
Who is "they"?
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People that stand outside embassy's protesting. The Richard Boyd-Barretts of the world |
I'm still awaiting to see his protests outside the Russian embassy in relation to Syria wouldn't be holding my breath though given the likes of him only seem to protest if there's US involvment. |
Exactly. I fcukin hate those kind of people. The sisters ex boyfriend would always be giving off about the US and have all these left wing books on how the US are pricks but nothing about Russia and China who are equally as bad as them.
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Posted By: corkery
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2013 at 11:52am
The Chinese and Russians believe in a policy that whatever happens inside one state has nothing to do with another. They believe that as long as the North Koreas don't attack first, they are doing nothing wrong.
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Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2013 at 11:56am
corkery wrote:
The Chinese and Russians believe in a policy that whatever happens inside one state has nothing to do with another. They believe that as long as the North Koreas don't attack first, they are doing nothing wrong. |
Ukraine
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Posted By: irishmufc
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2013 at 12:07pm
Denis Irwin wrote:
corkery wrote:
The Chinese and Russians believe in a policy that whatever happens inside one state has nothing to do with another. They believe that as long as the North Koreas don't attack first, they are doing nothing wrong. |
Ukraine |
+1
Have you ever heard of the terms "Iron Curtain" and "puppet governments". Pity the Russians didnt have that policy when they were communist. Under Putin they're as bad as they ever were, they're just a bit more sly about it these days
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Posted By: Dukla
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2013 at 12:26pm
A guy I know is in a Tibet Solidarity group & they have organised dozens of protests outside the Chinese Embassy. Remember hearing about one or two protests being held outside the Russian Embassy during the war with Georgia in 2008 & the Pussy Riot case last year. There's probably been more stuff I didn't hear about.
Even if you forget about all of that it's kind of hypocritical to go around saying 'Lefties will only criticise what the USA do they don't care about Russia or China' when all the Conservaties do is criticise Russia, China, etc & turn a blind eye to atrocities committed by the USA.
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Posted By: SuperDave84
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2013 at 2:45pm
seanyshuffler wrote:
c90 wrote:
seanyshuffler wrote:
In all fairness no 'Communist' regime has been democratic |
there has never been a proper communist state introduced.
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Don't think there ever will be either. Utopian idea, just like a pure capitalist state. |
Well, current Somalia is doing a good job at a pure capitalist state (that is, no taxation and no government). It's a libertarian wet dream.
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Posted By: Sham157
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2013 at 4:03pm
Trap junior wrote:
Will Sham Productions be covering this in a pay per view extravaganza?
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Freeview for existing customers. We can boast an expert team based in North Korea with close links to the military.
On a side note, for those worried about a nuclear fall out from this inevitable war, then visit www.shamshelters.ie where you can our extensive range of nuclear bomb shelters, starting from as little as €3,999.
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Posted By: Mulvanystrasse
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2013 at 4:34pm
Last time this contest ended in a draw. Stopped the dreaded domino effect. North Korea just throwing shapes now.
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Posted By: heighway2heaven
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2013 at 4:43pm
Landon Donovan wrote:
Hoosay wrote:
Who is "they"?
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People that stand outside embassy's protesting. The Richard Boyd-Barretts of the world |
You're a mong.
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Posted By: seanyshuffler
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2013 at 4:45pm
SuperDave84 wrote:
seanyshuffler wrote:
c90 wrote:
seanyshuffler wrote:
In all fairness no 'Communist' regime has been democratic |
there has never been a proper communist state introduced.
| Don't think there ever will be either. Utopian idea, just like a pure capitalist state. |
Well, current Somalia is doing a good job at a pure capitalist state (that is, no taxation and no government). It's a libertarian wet dream.
| Don't know enough about the country to comment but just looking over GDP per cap there doesn't seem to be to much of a trickle down effect.
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Posted By: Tippbiffo
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2013 at 4:53pm
I hope this dosent kick off....i want to go to rio next year
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Posted By: Metal Paul
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2013 at 5:11pm
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Posted By: Green Devil
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2013 at 5:20pm
The USA will kick their ass if they start anyway
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Posted By: heighway2heaven
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2013 at 5:44pm
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Posted By: c90
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2013 at 5:56pm
Metal Paul wrote:
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Posted By: Conor Messi
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2013 at 6:01pm
Posted By: El_nino
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2013 at 6:27pm
heighway2heaven wrote:
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That's quality
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Posted By: heighway2heaven
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2013 at 7:06pm
Thing is, it's not far off the truth.
Most analysts are saying that any bomb that they have so far has only half the yield of the Hiroshima bomb and it'd take 4 years minimum to be able to put it on top of a rocket that'd have any ICB capabilities or accuracy.
They're just dick-swinging although they could f**k Seoul up rightly.
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Posted By: corkery
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2013 at 7:09pm
irishmufc wrote:
Denis Irwin wrote:
corkery wrote:
The Chinese and Russians believe in a policy that whatever happens inside one state has nothing to do with another. They believe that as long as the North Koreas don't attack first, they are doing nothing wrong. |
Ukraine |
+1
Have you ever heard of the terms "Iron Curtain" and "puppet governments". Pity the Russians didnt have that policy when they were communist. Under Putin they're as bad as they ever were, they're just a bit more sly about it these days |
Russia and the USSR are not the same country. Russia and China do not want regime change under any circumstances.
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Posted By: kimbap
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2013 at 7:24pm
heighway2heaven wrote:
Thing is, it's not far off the truth.
Most analysts are saying that any bomb that they have so far has only half the yield of the Hiroshima bomb and it'd take 4 years minimum to be able to put it on top of a rocket that'd have any ICB capabilities or accuracy.
They're just dick-swinging although they could f**k Seoul up rightly.
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How do you reckon they could get at Seoul? Highly advanced missile interception systems in place.More on the way in the shape of US navy. About 100,000 US troops in immediate area and one Major aircraft carrier there permanently ( probably more with the heightened tensions) and can have more again in no time. No chance of a ground assault as the DMZ is 4 km wide and full of landmines,plus they'd be crushed at the border anyway.A marine landing? google the capabilities of their landing craft they photo shopped (so bad it's funny)
Everyone of my mates in Korea on fb today laughing at the sensationalist coverage this is getting in the west (except one or two clowns who want to make it look like they are living in a warzone)
I said this before on this thread but it's like this, Every year the US and Korean forces do joint military drills at this time.Every year the North threatens all sorts of sh*te.This year it gets a bit more attention as its the young lads first year in charge and he's flexing his muscles.End of.
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Posted By: kimbap
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2013 at 8:56pm
All you need to know,short and well informed.
http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2013/s3727471.htm
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Posted By: Metal Paul
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2013 at 10:05pm
Posted By: deise316
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2013 at 10:29pm
kimbap wrote:
I said this before on this thread but it's like this, Every year the US and Korean forces do joint military drills at this time.Every year the North threatens all sorts of sh*te.This year it gets a bit more attention as its the young lads first year in charge and he's flexing his muscles.End of.
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Says Kimbap from the safety of his nuclear bomb shelter.......
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Posted By: Landon Donovan
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2013 at 10:38pm
Dont know if i said it on here or twitter but Kim Jong-Un is pissed in that gif. There is a distinct possibility that after his aul lads death and not having a real mother he has hit the booze straight after. He is 28/29, there is no way somebody of that age can lead a country without it effecting him. I think he has gone all King Joffrey on it.
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Posted By: heighway2heaven
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2013 at 9:06am
kimbap wrote:
heighway2heaven wrote:
Thing is, it's not far off the truth.
Most analysts are saying that any bomb that they have so far has only half the yield of the Hiroshima bomb and it'd take 4 years minimum to be able to put it on top of a rocket that'd have any ICB capabilities or accuracy.
They're just dick-swinging although they could f**k Seoul up rightly.
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How do you reckon they could get at Seoul? Highly advanced missile interception systems in place.More on the way in the shape of US navy. About 100,000 US troops in immediate area and one Major aircraft carrier there permanently ( probably more with the heightened tensions) and can have more again in no time. No chance of a ground assault as the DMZ is 4 km wide and full of landmines,plus they'd be crushed at the border anyway.A marine landing? google the capabilities of their landing craft they photo shopped (so bad it's funny)
Everyone of my mates in Korea on fb today laughing at the sensationalist coverage this is getting in the west (except one or two clowns who want to make it look like they are living in a warzone)
I said this before on this thread but it's like this, Every year the US and Korean forces do joint military drills at this time.Every year the North threatens all sorts of sh*te.This year it gets a bit more attention as its the young lads first year in charge and he's flexing his muscles.End of.
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Just that no missile defense system is impenetrable, at least not SK's own PATRIOT system. The yank ones there now are top notch apparently though.
I agree completely. Just the young'fla doin a bit of rattling.
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Posted By: jinky
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2013 at 12:10pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLCF7vPanrY time lapse of every nuclear explosion since 1945
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Posted By: irishmufc
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2013 at 6:05pm
corkery wrote:
irishmufc wrote:
Denis Irwin wrote:
corkery wrote:
The Chinese and Russians believe in a policy that whatever happens inside one state has nothing to do with another. They believe that as long as the North Koreas don't attack first, they are doing nothing wrong. |
Ukraine |
+1
Have you ever heard of the terms "Iron Curtain" and "puppet governments". Pity the Russians didnt have that policy when they were communist. Under Putin they're as bad as they ever were, they're just a bit more sly about it these days |
Russia and the USSR are not the same country. Russia and China do not want regime change under any circumstances. |
As another poster said. Ukraine? Putin is a bad bastard. Awhile ago the founder of a newspaper that criticized the government was blasted to death outside his office in Moscow. Whether it's the U.S., Russia or China they're equally as bad as each other imo
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Posted By: corkery
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2013 at 6:06pm
They have a sphere of influence but they don't enter countries like the yanks.
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Posted By: irishmufc
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2013 at 6:11pm
corkery wrote:
They have a sphere of influence but they don't enter countries like the yanks. |
would agree with ya there. They're more hidden about it. Tbh corkery any superpower like those 3 will always have interests all over the world. George Galloway hits the nail on the head about this kind of stuff
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Posted By: SuperDave84
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2013 at 6:17pm
The fact is it would be impossible to stop an artillery bombardment on Seoul. The north could fire literally thousands of bombs at Seoul without any great difficulty and there is no way they could be stopped. It would be completely scattergun but it would cause a LOT of damage. They could even lob an aul nuke if they wanted to.
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Posted By: PhilliyK
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2013 at 7:09pm
corkery wrote:
They have a sphere of influence but they don't enter countries like the yanks. |
Only disputed territory's and to "assist" one side but your point stands that they would rather watch from a position of influence and protect their own interests rather than direct involvement
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Posted By: Polcia
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2013 at 7:54pm
Posted By: kimbap
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2013 at 8:01pm
SuperDave84 wrote:
The fact is it would be impossible to stop an artillery bombardment on Seoul. The north could fire literally thousands of bombs at Seoul without any great difficulty and there is no way they could be stopped. It would be completely scattergun but it would cause a LOT of damage. They could even lob an aul nuke if they wanted to.
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Where are you getting this from? One move like that from the North and there would be pinpoint airstrikes in seconds from the S Koreans (who have seriously advanced air power) as well as the US who have the best.They have two major air bases in Korea (Osan and Kunsan) Also have three Air Forces Bases in Japan in Misawa,Yokota and a massive one in Kadena.Not to mention the carriers in the area.And that just the reaction from the air which really would be a matter on less than 5 mins. The North are well aware of all this and know that any thing from them would be the end of their country.They are not stupid.The same generals are around that were around when Kim Jung Ill was running the show.The younger Kim is showing to his people that he is tough and not a fat baby faced 30 year old.There is always high tensions at this time of year on the Korean peninsula.It doesn't always get this kind of coverage,they've ramped it up a bit this year and the media has gone berserk.
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Posted By: heighway2heaven
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2013 at 8:12pm
irishmufc wrote:
corkery wrote:
irishmufc wrote:
Denis Irwin wrote:
corkery wrote:
The Chinese and Russians believe in a policy that whatever happens inside one state has nothing to do with another. They believe that as long as the North Koreas don't attack first, they are doing nothing wrong. |
Ukraine |
+1
Have you ever heard of the terms "Iron Curtain" and "puppet governments". Pity the Russians didnt have that policy when they were communist. Under Putin they're as bad as they ever were, they're just a bit more sly about it these days |
Russia and the USSR are not the same country. Russia and China do not want regime change under any circumstances. |
As another poster said. Ukraine? Putin is a bad bastard. Awhile ago the founder of a newspaper that criticized the government was blasted to death outside his office in Moscow. Whether it's the U.S., Russia or China they're equally as bad as each other imo |
In what way?
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Posted By: SuperDave84
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2013 at 8:16pm
kimbap wrote:
SuperDave84 wrote:
The fact is it would be impossible to stop an artillery bombardment on Seoul. The north could fire literally thousands of bombs at Seoul without any great difficulty and there is no way they could be stopped. It would be completely scattergun but it would cause a LOT of damage. They could even lob an aul nuke if they wanted to.
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Where are you getting this from? One move like that from the North and there would be pinpoint airstrikes in seconds from the S Koreans (who have seriously advanced air power) as well as the US who have the best.They have two major air bases in Korea (Osan and Kunsan) Also have three Air Forces Bases in Japan in Misawa,Yokota and a massive one in Kadena.Not to mention the carriers in the area.And that just the reaction from the air which really would be a matter on less than 5 mins. The North are well aware of all this and know that any thing from them would be the end of their country.They are not stupid.The same generals are around that were around when Kim Jung Ill was running the show.The younger Kim is showing to his people that he is tough and not a fat baby faced 30 year old.There is always high tensions at this time of year on the Korean peninsula.It doesn't always get this kind of coverage,they've ramped it up a bit this year and the media has gone berserk.
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I'm not disagreeing with the consequences. North Korea would be mental to try anything as it would result in immediate massive death but they could bomb the sh*t out of Seoul if they wanted to.
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Posted By: kimbap
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2013 at 8:36pm
SuperDave84 wrote:
kimbap wrote:
SuperDave84 wrote:
The fact is it would be impossible to stop an artillery bombardment on Seoul. The north could fire literally thousands of bombs at Seoul without any great difficulty and there is no way they could be stopped. It would be completely scattergun but it would cause a LOT of damage. They could even lob an aul nuke if they wanted to.
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Where are you getting this from? One move like that from the North and there would be pinpoint airstrikes in seconds from the S Koreans (who have seriously advanced air power) as well as the US who have the best.They have two major air bases in Korea (Osan and Kunsan) Also have three Air Forces Bases in Japan in Misawa,Yokota and a massive one in Kadena.Not to mention the carriers in the area.And that just the reaction from the air which really would be a matter on less than 5 mins. The North are well aware of all this and know that any thing from them would be the end of their country.They are not stupid.The same generals are around that were around when Kim Jung Ill was running the show.The younger Kim is showing to his people that he is tough and not a fat baby faced 30 year old.There is always high tensions at this time of year on the Korean peninsula.It doesn't always get this kind of coverage,they've ramped it up a bit this year and the media has gone berserk.
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I'm not disagreeing with the consequences. North Korea would be mental to try anything as it would result in immediate massive death but they could bomb the sh*t out of Seoul if they wanted to.
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SuperDave,
I respect your opinion on here,you're defo one of the better posters and seem to know what you're talking about.But you're simply wrong here.Do you think the citizens of Seoul (backed by the might of the US military) go about their business everyday since 1953 knowing that they could be wiped out on the whim of a mad man (or a group of his generals) at any time? I'm basing this on facts.Living as a teacher in Seoul you get some idea what going on.For example i taught a S Korea fighter pilot (about late 30's so coming to the end of his fighter pilot days,ie not full of bravado) who,once i got to know him told me all sorts.Very interesting stuff. However I learnt and heard a lot more having worked in both Japan and Korea (as well as bases in Guam and Hawaii which i have also heard mention of as potential targets) over another fives years.The military are anal in general.If you think regulations and health and safety is bad here you should deal with them for a while.My point is they over react rather than under react,over estimate rather than underestimate and they don't take the North Korean's as the massive threat we here are lead to believe. I've been speaking with mates (Korean and Irish) the last few days and they are bemused and bewildered by the attention this is getting.The rhetoric and sabre rattling are an annual thing.The only difference is a few missiles have been moved to the East coast of North Korea.They may even have done this in the previous years but it may not have been reported. If the Kim or his general fire one shot on Seoul it would be the same a pulling the trigger on themselves.They know this,I presume they don't want mass suicide.
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Posted By: irishmufc
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2013 at 8:56pm
heighway2heaven wrote:
irishmufc wrote:
corkery wrote:
irishmufc wrote:
Denis Irwin wrote:
corkery wrote:
The Chinese and Russians believe in a policy that whatever happens inside one state has nothing to do with another. They believe that as long as the North Koreas don't attack first, they are doing nothing wrong. |
Ukraine |
+1
Have you ever heard of the terms "Iron Curtain" and "puppet governments". Pity the Russians didnt have that policy when they were communist. Under Putin they're as bad as they ever were, they're just a bit more sly about it these days |
Russia and the USSR are not the same country. Russia and China do not want regime change under any circumstances. |
As another poster said. Ukraine? Putin is a bad bastard. Awhile ago the founder of a newspaper that criticized the government was blasted to death outside his office in Moscow. Whether it's the U.S., Russia or China they're equally as bad as each other imo |
In what way?
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Ive already explained this in a post to corkery but for your benefit ill post it again. All those superpowers are as bad as each other because they all have interests over the world.
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Posted By: SuperDave84
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2013 at 8:59pm
kimbap wrote:
SuperDave84 wrote:
kimbap wrote:
SuperDave84 wrote:
The fact is it would be impossible to stop an artillery bombardment on Seoul. The north could fire literally thousands of bombs at Seoul without any great difficulty and there is no way they could be stopped. It would be completely scattergun but it would cause a LOT of damage. They could even lob an aul nuke if they wanted to.
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Where are you getting this from? One move like that from the North and there would be pinpoint airstrikes in seconds from the S Koreans (who have seriously advanced air power) as well as the US who have the best.They have two major air bases in Korea (Osan and Kunsan) Also have three Air Forces Bases in Japan in Misawa,Yokota and a massive one in Kadena.Not to mention the carriers in the area.And that just the reaction from the air which really would be a matter on less than 5 mins. The North are well aware of all this and know that any thing from them would be the end of their country.They are not stupid.The same generals are around that were around when Kim Jung Ill was running the show.The younger Kim is showing to his people that he is tough and not a fat baby faced 30 year old.There is always high tensions at this time of year on the Korean peninsula.It doesn't always get this kind of coverage,they've ramped it up a bit this year and the media has gone berserk.
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I'm not disagreeing with the consequences. North Korea would be mental to try anything as it would result in immediate massive death but they could bomb the sh*t out of Seoul if they wanted to.
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SuperDave,
I respect your opinion on here,you're defo one of the better posters and seem to know what you're talking about.But you're simply wrong here.Do you think the citizens of Seoul (backed by the might of the US military) go about their business everyday since 1953 knowing that they could be wiped out on the whim of a mad man (or a group of his generals) at any time? I'm basing this on facts.Living as a teacher in Seoul you get some idea what going on.For example i taught a S Korea fighter pilot (about late 30's so coming to the end of his fighter pilot days,ie not full of bravado) who,once i got to know him told me all sorts.Very interesting stuff. However I learnt and heard a lot more having worked in both Japan and Korea (as well as bases in Guam and Hawaii which i have also heard mention of as potential targets) over another fives years.The military are anal in general.If you think regulations and health and safety is bad here you should deal with them for a while.My point is they over react rather than under react,over estimate rather than underestimate and they don't take the North Korean's as the massive threat we here are lead to believe. I've been speaking with mates (Korean and Irish) the last few days and they are bemused and bewildered by the attention this is getting.The rhetoric and sabre rattling are an annual thing.The only difference is a few missiles have been moved to the East coast of North Korea.They may even have done this in the previous years but it may not have been reported. If the Kim or his general fire one shot on Seoul it would be the same a pulling the trigger on themselves.They know this,I presume they don't want mass suicide.
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Okay, it wouldn't flatten the city but they could clearly cause a lot of damage if they wanted to.
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military/news/north-korea-and-flattening-seoul" rel="nofollow - http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military/news/north-korea-and-flattening-seoul
I appreciate that was about three years ago but the central premise holds true. It wouldn't be a high precision bombing (like I mentioned before, it would be scattergun) but if North Korea wanted to, they could cause serious damage in Seoul. The nuke point might be wrong (well, it would likely be intercepted by missile defence systems but would probably still explode) but they could definitely launch a bombing strike on Seoul which would cause mass damage and casualties.
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Posted By: drog addict
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2013 at 9:05pm
What are they interested in?
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Posted By: irishmufc
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2013 at 9:09pm
drog addict wrote:
What are they interested in? |
ffs are for you real?! There's alot of factors but one of the obvious ones is raw materials. That'd be a common interest superpowers would share.
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Posted By: SuperDave84
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2013 at 9:11pm
Also, see here:
http://www.isn.ethz.ch/isn/Digital-Library/Articles/Detail/?id=158779" rel="nofollow - http://www.isn.ethz.ch/isn/Digital-Library/Articles/Detail/?id=158779
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Peoples_Army#Capabilities" rel="nofollow - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_People%27s_Army#Capabilities
http://www.iiss.org/publications/strategic-dossiers/north-korean-dossier/north-koreas-weapons-programmes-a-net-asses/the-conventional-military-balance-on-the-kore/" rel="nofollow - http://www.iiss.org/publications/strategic-dossiers/north-korean-dossier/north-koreas-weapons-programmes-a-net-asses/the-conventional-military-balance-on-the-kore/
Nonetheless, despite shortages of spare parts, fuel and training time,
North Korea’s conventional capabilities pose a significant threat to
allied forces and South Korea’s population. For example, North Korea’s
artillery capability does not require sophisticated tactics nor modes of
operation to pose a threat to Seoul. In any conflict, North Korean
artillery, firing from fortified positions near the DMZ, could initially
deliver a heavy bombardment on the South Korean capital. Allied
counter-battery fire and air strikes would eventually reduce North
Korea’s artillery capability, but not before significant damage and high
casualties had been inflicted on Seoul. Similarly, the North Korean air
force could launch surprise attacks against military and civilian
targets throughout South Korea before allied air superiority was
established. The potential delivery of chemical or biological weapons by
artillery, short-range missiles and aerial bombs is an additional
threat – especially to unprotected civilians. |
That said, the last paragraph of the third article basically sums up the situation:
Conclusion The
combination of North Korea’s long economic decline and enhanced US and
South Korean military capabilities has diminshed the threat of a North
Korean invasion of South Korea. Nonetheless, North Korea retains the
ability to inflict heavy casualties and collateral damage, largely
through the use of massed artillery. In effect, Pyongyang has more of a
threat to devastate Seoul than to seize and hold it. North Korea’s
conventional threat is also sufficient to make an allied pre-emptive
invasion to overthrow the North Korean regime a highly unattractive
option. In theory, US forces could carry out pre-emptive attacks to
destroy known North Korean nuclear facilities and missile emplacements,
but such attacks could provoke North Korean retaliation and trigger a
general conflict. North Korea
cannot invade the South without inviting a fatal counter-attack from
the US and South Korea, while Washington and Seoul cannot overthrow the
North Korean regime by force or destroy its strategic military assets
without risking devastating losses in the process. In this respect, the
balance of forces that emerged from the Korean War, and which helped in
maintaining the armistice for 50 years, remains in place. None of the
principal parties want to fight a war although they are prepared to
fight if necessary. In this respect, the balance of forces creates
certain vulnerabilities since it places a high premium on carrying out a
pre-emptive strike if one side or the other believes that an attack is
imminent. The danger is that war will begin out of miscalculation,
misperception and escalation, rather than design. As a consequence,
reduction of political tensions and conventional confidence-building
measures can help to reduce the risk of war. |
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Posted By: drog addict
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2013 at 9:17pm
irishmufc wrote:
drog addict wrote:
What are they interested in? |
ffs are for you real?! There's alot of factors but one of the obvious ones is raw materials. That'd be a common interest superpowers would share. |
Mad for the coal are they?
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Posted By: kimbap
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2013 at 9:24pm
SuperDave84 wrote:
Also, see here:
http://www.isn.ethz.ch/isn/Digital-Library/Articles/Detail/?id=158779" rel="nofollow - http://www.isn.ethz.ch/isn/Digital-Library/Articles/Detail/?id=158779
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Peoples_Army#Capabilities" rel="nofollow - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_People%27s_Army#Capabilities
http://www.iiss.org/publications/strategic-dossiers/north-korean-dossier/north-koreas-weapons-programmes-a-net-asses/the-conventional-military-balance-on-the-kore/" rel="nofollow - http://www.iiss.org/publications/strategic-dossiers/north-korean-dossier/north-koreas-weapons-programmes-a-net-asses/the-conventional-military-balance-on-the-kore/
Nonetheless, despite shortages of spare parts, fuel and training time,
North Korea’s conventional capabilities pose a significant threat to
allied forces and South Korea’s population. For example, North Korea’s
artillery capability does not require sophisticated tactics nor modes of
operation to pose a threat to Seoul. In any conflict, North Korean
artillery, firing from fortified positions near the DMZ, could initially
deliver a heavy bombardment on the South Korean capital. Allied
counter-battery fire and air strikes would eventually reduce North
Korea’s artillery capability, but not before significant damage and high
casualties had been inflicted on Seoul. Similarly, the North Korean air
force could launch surprise attacks against military and civilian
targets throughout South Korea before allied air superiority was
established. The potential delivery of chemical or biological weapons by
artillery, short-range missiles and aerial bombs is an additional
threat – especially to unprotected civilians. |
That said, the last paragraph of the third article basically sums up the situation:
Conclusion The
combination of North Korea’s long economic decline and enhanced US and
South Korean military capabilities has diminshed the threat of a North
Korean invasion of South Korea. Nonetheless, North Korea retains the
ability to inflict heavy casualties and collateral damage, largely
through the use of massed artillery. In effect, Pyongyang has more of a
threat to devastate Seoul than to seize and hold it. North Korea’s
conventional threat is also sufficient to make an allied pre-emptive
invasion to overthrow the North Korean regime a highly unattractive
option. In theory, US forces could carry out pre-emptive attacks to
destroy known North Korean nuclear facilities and missile emplacements,
but such attacks could provoke North Korean retaliation and trigger a
general conflict. North Korea
cannot invade the South without inviting a fatal counter-attack from
the US and South Korea, while Washington and Seoul cannot overthrow the
North Korean regime by force or destroy its strategic military assets
without risking devastating losses in the process. In this respect, the
balance of forces that emerged from the Korean War, and which helped in
maintaining the armistice for 50 years, remains in place. None of the
principal parties want to fight a war although they are prepared to
fight if necessary. In this respect, the balance of forces creates
certain vulnerabilities since it places a high premium on carrying out a
pre-emptive strike if one side or the other believes that an attack is
imminent. The danger is that war will begin out of miscalculation,
misperception and escalation, rather than design. As a consequence,
reduction of political tensions and conventional confidence-building
measures can help to reduce the risk of war. |
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Heading out the door for scoops so can really get into it but whilst most of that is correct imo i'd disagree with parts of it.
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Posted By: irishmufc
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2013 at 9:27pm
@ drogaddict
If that's the kind of sarcastic rubbish you want to come with, then we'll leave it at that. Funny thing is about your "mad for the coal comment" do yourself a favour and look up the coal mines in south america they're (China) are buying up.
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Posted By: drog addict
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2013 at 9:48pm
irishmufc wrote:
@ drogaddict
If that's the kind of sarcastic rubbish you want to come with, then we'll leave it at that. Funny thing is about your "mad for the coal comment" do yourself a favour and look up the coal mines in south america they're (China) are buying up. |
You in bad form today chief?
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Posted By: irishmufc
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2013 at 7:18am
drog addict wrote:
irishmufc wrote:
@ drogaddict
If that's the kind of sarcastic rubbish you want to come with, then we'll leave it at that. Funny thing is about your "mad for the coal comment" do yourself a favour and look up the coal mines in south america they're (China) are buying up. |
You in bad form today chief? |
I was a bit loaded yesterday. drinking all day in Galway. I'll be in better form this day 2 weeks smashing in backdoors in Warsaw
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Posted By: heighway2heaven
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2013 at 11:15am
irishmufc wrote:
drog addict wrote:
What are they interested in? |
ffs are for you real?! There's alot of factors but one of the obvious ones is raw materials. That'd be a common interest superpowers would share. |
You're actually making less sense there than usual chief.
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Posted By: irishmufc
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2013 at 11:35am
@heighwaytoheaven
I think you've misunderstood what im saying. Russia, China and the U.S. have massive influence all over the world. I thought that was common knowledge.Interfering with developing country's political process i.e. installing puppet governments, exploiting them for their raw materials such as oil and benefiting from cheap labour It's what superpowers do
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Posted By: kimbap
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2013 at 2:30pm
Posted By: c90
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2013 at 4:33pm
kimbap wrote:
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only a day late kimbag ( its on the previous page) surprised there wasnt a load of old newspapers posted
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Posted By: Jason Kelly
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2013 at 4:42pm
NewrycityonTour wrote:
Wouldn't be a world war. The Russians and Chinese want nothing to do with it and those North Koreans would get a. hammering by the Americans. If this keeps going the way of conflict we will see a united Korea. |
The last time the Yanks went to war with Communists it was the Yanks that took a hiding. And that was effectively a guerilla army they were fighting too. I wouldn't be too quick to dismiss Koreas ability to defend itself.
America is big enough to have somewhere to hold military drills, why do they need to go to the Korean peninsula to do it
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Posted By: c90
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2013 at 5:03pm
Posted By: kimbap
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2013 at 5:04pm
Posted By: irishmufc
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2013 at 5:07pm
exactly. no point in them doing the drills in the backarse of mayo
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Posted By: Jason Kelly
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2013 at 5:07pm
Are the US claiming the Korean peninsula to be a US State now or something?
Again, why not have these drills in America , why go within earshot of Pyongyang?
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Posted By: c90
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2013 at 5:12pm
Posted By: nvidic
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2013 at 5:12pm
Jason Kelly wrote:
Again, why not have these drills in America , why go within earshot of Pyongyang? |
Why would they do drills aimed to help south korea defends itself against attack anywhere but south korea
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Posted By: Jason Kelly
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2013 at 5:21pm
So, what your basically saying is the US has colonial interests in the region? Why else would they intervene
The only country to wage a nuclear war in that area of the world(or any part of the world) is the United States. Koreas concern is justified imo.
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Posted By: Metal Paul
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2013 at 6:08pm
http://joe.ie/home/pic-of-the-day/some-impressive-kim-jong-un-doctor-evil-graffiti-in-smithfield-0036393-1" rel="nofollow - http://joe.ie/home/pic-of-the-day/some-impressive-kim-jong-un-doctor-evil-graffiti-in-smithfield-0036393-1
Brilliant!
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Posted By: kimbap
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2013 at 6:22pm
2 minute read for anyone that wants to know what's really going on.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/10/opinion/stay-cool-call-north-koreas-bluff.html?_r=0
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Posted By: colemanY2K
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2013 at 9:02am
Panorama programme tonight at 8:30. Three undercover journalists accompany a group of students from London school of economics to north Korea. Only problem is they told the students only 1 journalist was going and it wasn't apparently undercover...erm even one journalist goes is it not an issue as in aren't all journos banned in north Korea ??
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22144667" rel="nofollow - www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22144667
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Posted By: t_rAndy
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2013 at 9:15am
Will watch this tonight. Seen a programe from a few years ago the other night. Mad country and wouldn't put anything past them after viewing that programe. Tonight's update should be interesting
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Posted By: Guf10
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2013 at 2:35pm
colemanY2K wrote:
Panorama programme tonight at 8:30. Three undercover journalists accompany a group of students from London school of economics to north Korea. Only problem is they told the students only 1 journalist was going and it wasn't apparently undercover...erm even one journalist goes is it not an issue as in aren't all journos banned in north Korea ??
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22144667" rel="nofollow - www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22144667 |
Just read about it, looks interesting. Students complained about it saying they were pit under acceptable risks by the broadcaster but BBC are still going to air it!
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Posted By: seanyshuffler
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2013 at 9:03pm
Posted By: corkery
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2013 at 9:05pm
seanyshuffler wrote:
Anyone else watch this? |
Ya, wasn't as good as the National Geographic one on blind people.
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Posted By: Pipkin
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2013 at 9:24pm
corkery wrote:
seanyshuffler wrote:
Anyone else watch this? |
Ya, wasn't as good as the National Geographic one on blind people. |
Only watched that the other night (not sure if it only came out recently?). Was chilling hearing about your man that was the 2nd escapee and he got electrocuted to death crossing the border.
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Posted By: Dukla
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2013 at 9:32pm
Pretty interesting. How on earth did the North Korean tour guides not figure out he was a journalist
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Thought the 'Hospital' was a bit funny "So where are all the patients?"..................."They are gone home, they were here earlier"
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Posted By: deco911
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2013 at 9:54pm
Posted By: corkery
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2013 at 10:18pm
Kerrzy wrote:
corkery wrote:
seanyshuffler wrote:
Anyone else watch this? |
Ya, wasn't as good as the National Geographic one on blind people. |
Only watched that the other night (not sure if it only came out recently?). Was chilling hearing about your man that was the 2nd escapee and he got electrocuted to death crossing the border.
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That one is a few years old.
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Posted By: irishmufc
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2013 at 10:24pm
Dukla wrote:
Pretty interesting. How on earth did the North Korean tour guides not figure out he was a journalist .
Thought the 'Hospital' was a bit funny "So where are all the patients?"..................."They are gone home, they were here earlier"
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That's some health service they have. No sick people in the entire country
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Posted By: reder
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2013 at 11:09pm
Dukla wrote:
Pretty interesting. How on earth did the North Korean tour guides not figure out he was a journalist
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Thought the 'Hospital' was a bit funny "So where are all the patients?"..................."They are gone home, they were here earlier"
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I thought he was done for when he told the doctor that he wasn't a fool about their being no patients in the hospital. Amazing that he got so much footage. The country must be on it's last legs judging by the constant power cuts and lack of activity in Pyongyang. Feel so sorry for the joe soap NK people.
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Posted By: Max Power
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2013 at 1:14am
There's a deadly vice documentary on YouTube on North Korea, took them a year and a half to get in to the place. The most bizarre place in the world without a doubt....
%20" rel="nofollow - http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=24R8JObNNQ4
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Posted By: Max Power
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2013 at 1:17am
Dunno whether the above link is workin, just search vice North Korea in YouTube, it's an hr long divided into 3 parts...
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Posted By: heighway2heaven
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2013 at 1:41am
Great little doc. I'd give a ball to have Shane Smith's job.
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Posted By: seanyshuffler
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2013 at 9:26am
The part about power going out is the most worrying. If they did go to war I'm not sure if they would be able to tend to their wounded given the condtion of their hospitals. It seems to be more of a right wing state than communist one.
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Posted By: newrynyuk
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2013 at 2:05pm
I'm visiting friends in Seoul in June. They tell me that the atmosphere there is blase and unchanged. North Korea have cried wolf too many times to take the threats too seriously, however they fear the Americans might over react.
But surely they won't? The North Korean nuclear arsenal is presently non-existent. And when have the Americans ever gone to war over non-existant weap... Ah.
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Posted By: kimbap
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2013 at 2:24pm
newrynyuk wrote:
I'm visiting friends in Seoul in June. They tell me that the atmosphere there is blase and unchanged. North Korea have cried wolf too many times to take the threats too seriously, however they fear the Americans might over react.
But surely they won't? The North Korean nuclear arsenal is presently non-existent. And when have the Americans ever gone to war over non-existant weap... Ah. |
You've nothing to worry about.Listen to your mates in Seoul,they will know the score.
The Yanks are not taking this as seriously as you'd be lead to believe.
You'll have a mental time in Seoul,especially if you have someone to show you around.
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Posted By: newrynyuk
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2013 at 8:19pm
kimbap wrote:
newrynyuk wrote:
I'm visiting friends in Seoul in June. They tell me that the atmosphere there is blase and unchanged. North Korea have cried wolf too many times to take the threats too seriously, however they fear the Americans might over react.
But surely they won't? The North Korean nuclear arsenal is presently non-existent. And when have the Americans ever gone to war over non-existant weap... Ah. |
You've nothing to worry about.Listen to your mates in Seoul,they will know the score.
The Yanks are not taking this as seriously as you'd be lead to believe.
You'll have a mental time in Seoul,especially if you have someone to show you around.
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No, I'm no worried, that was just a poor attempt at a joke
Yes I will indeed have a great time in Seoul. Will be there at the same time South Korea play their last two World Cup qualifyers at home against Uzbekistan and Iran and plan to go to both. This also means I will be there when Ireland play Spain in New York. Can you recommend an Irish pub in Seoul which might be showing the game, kimbap?
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Posted By: kimbap
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2013 at 8:28pm
You'll be doing most of your boozing in Itaewon i reckon and thats where the best Irish Pub in Korea is,The Wolfhound.They show GAA,Rugby and football but its through the computer and onto the big screen so maybe go in before and ask one of the lads will they be showing it.If they can find it they will.
Actually scratch that,just saw the times for the match there and it will be on around 9am in Seoul.You'll be doing well to find a pub that will show it at that time.My advice would be to get a few beers and head to an internet cafe with your mates (they wont mind you boozing in there and will most likely even have beer for sale) and get a stream that way.
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Posted By: SuperDave84
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2013 at 8:50pm
Plus the streams there are grand, unlike here. They have some of the fastest internet in the world in South Korea.
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Posted By: kimbap
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2013 at 9:02pm
SuperDave84 wrote:
Plus the streams there are grand, unlike here. They have some of the fastest internet in the world in South Korea.
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Yep,they're dead proud of it too! Apparently its the fastest in the world,i would well believe that.
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Posted By: irishmufc
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2013 at 9:13pm
SuperDave84 wrote:
Plus the streams there are grand, unlike here. They have some of the fastest internet in the world in South Korea.
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Probably thanks to america, but dont tell eire77 that
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Posted By: newrynyuk
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2013 at 11:16pm
kimbap wrote:
You'll be doing most of your boozing in Itaewon i reckon and thats where the best Irish Pub in Korea is,The Wolfhound.They show GAA,Rugby and football but its through the computer and onto the big screen so maybe go in before and ask one of the lads will they be showing it.If they can find it they will.
Actually scratch that,just saw the times for the match there and it will be on around 9am in Seoul.You'll be doing well to find a pub that will show it at that time.My advice would be to get a few beers and head to an internet cafe with your mates (they wont mind you boozing in there and will most likely even have beer for sale) and get a stream that way.
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No chance of seeing the match in a pub at 9am then?
If I have to see the match on an internet stream, won't need to go to an internet cafe. My hotel has a PC in every room apparently!
Back to the topic of the thread, watching Arirang TV report now on how they perceive foreign TV in Seoul as exaggerating the North Korean threat.
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Posted By: Dukla
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2013 at 10:47pm
BBC4 had an interesting documentary on last night about a few American soldiers that defected to North Korea called Crossing the Line. One of them is still living in Pyongyang today, Very unusual but well worth a watch.
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