World Cup 2018
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Topic: World Cup 2018
Posted By: UCDFAN
Subject: World Cup 2018
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2012 at 4:02pm
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The new build 45,000 seater Stadium in Kazan, Tartarstan hopes to get a Quarter-Final in 2018. Kazan is the venue for the XXVII Universiade (World Student Games), 12 events compulsory. Hopefully Ireland can send a Mens and Women's team next year. The IUFA didn't send Football teams to Shenchen near Hong Kong in 2011. http://kazan2013.com/media-department/news/kazan-has-every-chance-of-hosting-2018-fifa-world-cup-quarterfinal/" rel="nofollow - http://kazan2013.com/media-department/news/kazan-has-every-chance-of-hosting-2018-fifa-world-cup-quarterfinal/ Having concluded their tour of Kazan’s FIFA World Cup competition and non-competition venues, the delegation of the Russia 2018 Local Organising Committee headed by its CEO Alexey Sorokin together with representatives of the FIFA inspection team led by Jürgen Müller. Sorokin "The matches will be distributed on the principle of a stadium’s compliance with FIFA’s seating and capacity requirements and based on the draw results. Semifinals of the FIFA World Cup must be staged in stadiums able to seat the minimum of 60,000 people, while stadiums bidding to host the final must have the capacity of not less than 80,000 people,» said Alexey Sorokin, CEO of the Russia 2018 Local Organising Committee. Special consideration was also given to fans’ safety at football matches. The experience of the 2012 UEFA Euro Cup that is currently taking place in Poland and Ukraine has demonstrated again the significance of developing a code of conduct for football fans and providing safety at such high-profile events as football championships.
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For his part, Jürgen Müller, FIFA’s head of the 2014, 2018 and 2022 World Cups, said that the results of the 2018 FIFA World Cup Host Cities selection process would be revealed as early as in September 2012.
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Posted By: UCDFAN
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2012 at 12:48am
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September 29th 2012 is the promised big day for the announcement of venues for Russia 2018. Up to TWO venues may be cut from a current list of THIRTEEN. (unlucky for some). http://www.thesundayindian.com/en/story/venues-for-2018-world-cup-to-be-announced-sep-29/4/40142/" rel="nofollow - http://www.thesundayindian.com/en/story/venues-for-2018-world-cup-to-be-announced-sep-29/4/40142/ "A FIFA delegation spent much of the spring and summer visiting the 13 candidate cities of Moscow, St. Petersburg, Kaliningrad, Yekaterinburg, Yaroslavl, Nizhny Novgorod, Kazan, Samara, Saransk, Volgograd, Sochi, Krasnodar and Rostov-on-Don." cannot wait.
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Posted By: rolo
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2012 at 1:41am
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This is very interesting. Cheers for the heads up.
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Posted By: AlexLoxate
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2012 at 1:03pm
| Kazan is turning out to be quite a good place for football. They have a pretty nice stadium and a good team to go along with it. Will be a great venue both for the Student Games and the World Cup. |
Posted By: HuntysCousin
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2012 at 4:07pm
| Will many of the current stadiums be renovated? |
Posted By: AlexLoxate
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2012 at 6:25pm
| That would make sense, but seeing as Russia will probably want to make an impression they're likely to build a few new ones, if not most. |
Posted By: Joe Stalin
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2012 at 10:44pm
| Far too much emphasis on the stadium and not enough on the infrastrcture necessary for a big finals as we saw in Ukraine this summer. Lovely stadiums but empty seats at most matches because fans couldn't/wouldn't travel |
Posted By: HuntysCousin
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2012 at 12:43am
| While I understand why the final will be at the Luzhniki,I think it's an awful stadium to have it in it's current state.Major games should be kept well away from stadia with running tracks |
Posted By: corkery
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2012 at 2:48pm
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Would love to visit Volgograd, says it's a dump though.
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Posted By: colemanY2K
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2012 at 5:32pm
If Joe Senior was still around he wouldn't let any of that sh*t happen...another five year plan and they be sorted  Some great potential host cities...would echo corkery above ... I would love to go to Volgograd. The biggest pain in the hole though would Kalinigrad. The logistics of getting across Belarus or Ukraine for the group games would be a balls plus you would need a double entry visa for Russia. Can't see it making the final list.
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Joe Stalin wrote:Posted By: nvidic
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2012 at 5:49pm
it's a class stadium, was pleasantly surprised how much you can see despite the track, no worries on atmosphere either, was more than half empty when we played and noise was incredible |
Posted By: Pipkin
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2012 at 9:57pm
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Didnt see it mentioned anywhere but they were announced the other day. Krasnodar and Yaroslavl dropped. Wonder will there be a visa waiver like the CL final in 08'.
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Posted By: Claret Murph
Date Posted: 03 Oct 2012 at 7:01am
 just have to pay €325 to leave the country , nahhhhh only joking i hope . ------------- Lansdowne Road debut aged 52 and 201 days . |
Posted By: irishmufc
Date Posted: 03 Oct 2012 at 8:04am
i think you re right about the visa thing murph, heard that somewhere before. you d imagine russia would offer incentives like that to get the votes ------------- Wings? They're only the band The Beatles could have been. |
Posted By: rolo
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2012 at 1:07am
Russia reveals World Cup venuesSeptember 30, 2012
FIFA have announced the 11 cities which will host matches during the 2018 World Cup. The tournament wil comprise of 64 matches and will be staged at 12 different stadiums with Moscow being the only city with two venues selected - those of Luzhniki, which hosted the 2008 Champions League final, and Spartak. Sochi, who will stage the 2014 Winter Olympics, St Petersburg, Kaliningrad, Nizhny Novgorod, Kazan, Samara, Saransk, Volgograd, Rostov-on-Don and Ekaterinburg will also host matches. Yaroslavl and Krasnodar missed out on being named host cities after putting in bids. "The announcement of the host cities is the first concrete step taken in the delivery of the 2018 FIFA World Cup," FIFA president Sepp Blatter said. "They make a decisive contribution to the success of the most popular sporting event. We look forward to a productive partnership on our road to the first FIFA World Cup in Eastern Europe. "We are very pleased with the pace of the 2018 LOC (Local Organising Committee) from day one when they were awarded the hosting of the event in December 2010. Their achievements show their enthusiasm and commitment." Vitaly Mutko, Russian minister of sport and chairman of the Russia 2018 LOC, said: "The final selection of the 2018 FIFA World Cup host cities is an important milestone en route to hosting the tournament in 2018. "This decision launches the full-scale preparation for the FIFA World Cup in the 11 host cities across the country." Russia beat England and joint bids from Holland/Belgium and Spain/Portugal in December 2010 for the right to host the World Cup.
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Posted By: Claret Murph
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2012 at 6:51am
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Could be some great trian trips on that one if we get there . ------------- Lansdowne Road debut aged 52 and 201 days . |
Posted By: colemanY2K
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2012 at 1:37pm
| Whatever about their human rights issues this World Cup is shaping up to be a travellers dream (apart from kaliningrad). |
Posted By: rolo
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2012 at 1:41pm
Yeah there's an article about it in World Soccer Magazine this month, contrasting the nightmare of 2014 with 2018's 'cluster' set up. The cities in Russia nearest to each other form a cluster basically, sort of like Poznan/Gdansk at Euro 2012 for example. Brazil will be a nightmare for the Germans and the Swedes 
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Posted By: corkery
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2012 at 2:00pm
| Would be nice to see Stalingrad. Would Russia of been allowed to host games in their Easter Cities? |
Posted By: RogerMilla
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2012 at 2:14pm
no , only in their christmas ones  ------------- The first time the Devil made me do it. The second time I did it on my own. |
Posted By: colemanY2K
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2012 at 2:17pm
or Volgograd as it's known now.......it would be taking the piss a bit if they had any games in the Russian Far East....Vladivostok is twice the distance from Moscow as Dublin  |
Posted By: corkery
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2012 at 2:21pm
Vladivostok got into the Russian premier league one year, their away trips were a killer.
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Posted By: colemanY2K
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2012 at 2:21pm
Less of your pessimistic sh*te now rolo
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Posted By: Mr.Mojo Risin'
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2012 at 3:22pm
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Posted By: colemanY2K
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2012 at 4:31pm
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Sochi appears to be the dogs bollix....check this out. 2018 FIFA World Cup in Sochi: football and skiing  During the breaks in the Sochi World Cup games the fans will be able to
sunbathe on the shore of a warm sea and go downhill skiing. The championship
will take place in the summer of 2018 at the Fisht Olympic stadium, which was
named after the highest peak in the region and was designed to look like that
snow-covered mountain. The Fisht Stadium with its unique semi-transparent roof that looks like an ice cap on a mountain peak will be put into operation next year. Already now it is considered to be the best technically equipped stadium in the world. For example, its sports arena can be easily converted into a theater stage. From its stands the visitors will be able to see both the sea and the snow-covered tops of the Caucasus Mountains. After the 2014 Winter Olympics the stadium will be slightly modified, points out Vladislav Funtyakov, chairman of the Football Federation of the city of Sochi. «The main sports arena where the opening and closing ceremonies of the Winter Olympics will take place will be modified. The number of visitor seats will be increased by a few thousands. It is located in the Imeritin lowlands, on the coast. There is nothing like this in the world». Sochi is frequently called the Russian Riviera. The city is spread out 140 km along the shore of the Black sea. The unique local climate in the summer allows people to simultaneously bathe in the warm sea and go downhill skiing. One can use the cable railway to get to the mountains from the coast. From its cars one gets an amazing view of the area. Tatiana Kontsevaya, the director of the Sochi History Museum is convinced that tourists will have no time to be bored. «There are remarkable architectural monuments in the city as well as a rich historical and cultural heritage. One can learn about the history of the city from ancient times to modern days. The nature is very beautiful. There is a lot to see here. In addition, it would be interesting to sample the Caucasian cuisine». Not far from the city natural parks with waterfalls and caves are located, in addition, the stone dwellings of the ancient people called the dolmens are preserved here. Tourists will be offered to sample the traditional shashlik (shish kebab), Ossetia pies made as quick bread with meat or vegetables, and of course, house wines. There are many vineyards in the Caucasian Mountains. One can reach the Russian Riviera by airplane. The Sochi International Airport built in 1945 was recently renovated specifically for the 2014 Winter Olympics. It is now one of the largest airports in Russia. It can accommodate up to 2 million passengers per year. Besides that, there is a railway station in Sochi, the building of which is an architectural monument. The sea port which is currently being actively renovated and developed will turn into the largest cruise ports on the Black sea in the next few years. After the renovation, two cruise ships each about 300 meters long and a ferry can simultaneously dock in the port. In addition, a yacht marine for 300 yachts will appear on the Sochi coast. |
Posted By: colemanY2K
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2012 at 5:29pm
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No surpise really but the Luzniki stadium will host the opening match, a semi-final and final of the 2018 World Cup. St Petersburg hosting the other Semi. Russian Sports Minister said the Luzhniki could be demolished and rebuilt for the World Cup. http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/feedarticle/10572254" rel="nofollow - http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/feedarticle/10572254 |
Posted By: nvidic
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2012 at 5:52pm
Itd be a shame, its a great stadium but utterly bizarre the way its laid out in the complex its in, still my favourite stadium I was ever at though I think |
Posted By: colemanY2K
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2013 at 4:30pm
Jerome Valcke reckons it's much better to organise World Cups in countries run by dictators than World Cups held in democracies  Says it all really about their decision to give the World Cup to Russia and Qatar (albeit neither are dictatorships both have very shady governments). Jerome Valcke: Fifa chief says too much democracy can be hindranceFifa secretary general Jerome Valcke has said too much democracy can be a hindrance when organising a World Cup. Valcke said one of the reasons Fifa had encountered http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-20502918" rel="nofollow - - the 2018 World Cup in Russia. "I will say something which is crazy, but less democracy is sometimes better for organising a World Cup," he said. Valcke was speaking at the start of a four-day symposium debating the FIFA World Cup as an event. The conference is due to discuss a range of topics including the role that dictatorships and democracies have played in past tournaments and, Fifa say, "the multiculturalism and commercialisation that has defined the past two decades". Valcke told delegates: "When you have a very strong head of state who can decide, as maybe [President Vladimir] Putin can do in 2018... that is easier for us organisers than a country such as Germany, where you have to negotiate at different levels. "The main fight we have [is] when we enter a country where the political structure is divided, as it is in Brazil, into three levels - the federal level, the state level and the city level. "[There are] different people, different movements, different interests and it's quite difficult to organise a World Cup in such conditions." ------------- "One of the dominant facts in English life during the past three quarters of a century has been the decay of ability in the ruling class." Orwell, 1942. |
Posted By: nvidic
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2013 at 4:33pm
China 2026  |
Posted By: colemanY2K
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2013 at 4:34pm
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Would like to see that as long as it's not gone bankrupt by then nvidic.
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Posted By: heyirish
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2013 at 4:46pm
give it to north korea altogether ------------- karl pilkington to doctor when getting prostate examined: jesus thats high up that is, fcuking hell, right you're touching a lung now |
Posted By: KingLeo
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2013 at 7:42pm
Samara's stadium has been chosen: Kazan's stadium is coming along nicely:   Kaliningrad have chosen a very unique stadium plan:  
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Posted By: newrynyuk
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2013 at 9:57pm
Surely the 2022 World Cup in Qatar means it can't be in China in 2026? Successive tournaments can't be held in the same continent, or at least in a country under the same confederation? |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2013 at 10:14pm
| Wonder what they will do for the 100th anniversary of the World Cup, will they return to Uruguay, play it in England or do a Worldwide event? |
Posted By: nvidic
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2013 at 10:20pm
Not sure if you were taking the piss or not? (hard tell online) but this is identical to the water cube in beijing! edit - missed the four corners thing, thats class! but the outside is a rip-off!
was taking the mick after the article about FIFA not liking democracy! but yeah you're right but I think they'll go for 2030 and walk it, no better place for a world cup, will be amazing
China?? no chance, huge reserves |
Posted By: lassassinblanc
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2013 at 8:46am
| Kazan is pretty cool, very close encounters ish |
Posted By: SuperDave84
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2013 at 12:12pm
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Wait, they are putting games in Kaliningrad?!?! That's farking mental. Has to mean flights a plenty, overland to Kaliningrad either means getting mutli-entry visas for both Russia and Belarus (pricy!) or else interminable travel via Lithuania and Latvia. Stupid idea. FIFA don't care about fans (not that that's news). ------------- 
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Posted By: irishmufc
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2013 at 12:30pm
When we were planning where we'd go during the euros trip one of my mates was looking at Kaliningrad and half suggested "we should go there for a day" before immediately changing his mind "arrah probably nothing there but a bunch of Russians" ------------- Wings? They're only the band The Beatles could have been. |
Posted By: SuperDave84
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2013 at 12:47pm
Plus, you'd have needed a visa. And you can't just rock up and roll in. http://www.konigsberg.ru/eng/kaliningrad/express-visa.htm" rel="nofollow - http://www.konigsberg.ru/eng/kaliningrad/express-visa.htm -------------
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Posted By: newrynyuk
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2013 at 1:00pm
Uruguayan plans to bid for the centenary World Cup have been going for a decade now. But seeing as it's too small a country to host a 32-team World Cup, they hope to co-host it with Argentina:-
http://www.argentinauruguay2030.com/" rel="nofollow - http://www.argentinauruguay2030.com/
The campaign for the 2030 World Cup has started so early because of what happened to Athens for the centenary Olympics in 1996. It was generally assumed that they would get it, only to be beaten by Atlanta in the end. Through bribery it later turned out. Not a stretch to imagine China have the means to do something similar.
I'll be an old man by 2030, but for years I've taken to the idea of going to the centenary World Cup in Uruguay as my last football trip, so I hope it happens. Besides, you just know that FIFA will cynically decreed that Qatar is actually Middle East, not Asia, so China can get the 2024 World Cup.
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Posted By: irishmufc
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2013 at 1:07pm
The visa was what put us off going there. It would've been nice to visit for a break away from the rest of the fans for a day or two ------------- Wings? They're only the band The Beatles could have been. |
Posted By: colemanY2K
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2013 at 2:25pm
...first of all whether it was farking mental or not the Russians wanted Kalinigrad to host games for political purposes and FIFA made it happen. Transportation wise (trains) it would be mental but you know full well the visa restrictions will be lifted by the Russians.
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Posted By: Hoosay
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2013 at 3:48pm
What's happening in the corners there?
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Posted By: colemanY2K
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2013 at 4:08pm
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From what I can make out hoosay is a swimming pool (bottom), a ice hockey rink (left), a bandy pitch (top) but haven't a clue what that is on the right.. ------------- "One of the dominant facts in English life during the past three quarters of a century has been the decay of ability in the ruling class." Orwell, 1942. |
Posted By: SuperDave84
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2013 at 4:20pm
A giant version of whack-a-mole? -------------
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Posted By: KingLeo
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2013 at 5:21pm
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colemany2k appears to be correct, no idea what the top right corner is though. Perhaps someone understands Russian? The diving board will give a great view of the pitch  
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Posted By: Hoosay
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2013 at 6:11pm
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That's pretty cool. |
Posted By: UCDFAN
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2013 at 9:32am
(Edit - false starter, wrong use of Dictionary) центр единоборств -Centre Edinoborstv Martial Arts Centre. (also, Giant Twister for the team bonding sessions.) |
Posted By: UCDFAN
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2016 at 8:21pm
 http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/news/y=2016/m=9/news=cat-tiger-and-wolf-unveiled-2018-mascot-race-is-on-2836196.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/news/y=2016/m=9/news=cat-tiger-and-wolf-unveiled-2018-mascot-race-is-on-2836196.html Three candidates reach the final voting for the Mascot for Russia 2018. Wolf (volk), Cat (kot) and Tiger (tiger). As shown the first two professions are athletes and the tiger's profession is cosmonaut. Tournament Website http://welcome2018.com/en/" rel="nofollow - http://welcome2018.com/en/ ------------- www.ucdsupporters.ie |
Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2016 at 8:30pm
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Would have thought they'd go with a bear ------------- Eamonn Dunphy:"I'll tell you who wrote it, Rod Liddle, he's the guy who ran away and left his wife for a young one". Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn |
Posted By: Hans Moleman
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2016 at 8:45pm
Is it me or could the Wolfs thumbs up easily be mistaken for giving the middle finger there
Maybe it's Putins way of telling a lot of countries to go feck themselves |
Posted By: Peter Stöger
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2016 at 12:18am
| Russia played their friendly tonight in Chechnya off all places. Obviously trying to win some love before the WC. If you watch the highlights, the crowd are decked in patriotism. Romania robbed of a penalty and the injury time Russian winner looks like a clear offside. |
Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2016 at 7:44am
Taste of what to exepect in 19 Months time. Russia will 'win' that WC no doubt about it ------------- Eamonn Dunphy:"I'll tell you who wrote it, Rod Liddle, he's the guy who ran away and left his wife for a young one". Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn |
Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2016 at 1:33pm
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I bet FIFA won't laugh if the US asks to be the 33rd team........... ------------- Greed has won, big finance has won. Whatever small role elite clubs still play in the local communities from which they grew is dwarfed now by their position as global brands. |
Posted By: Charlton's Child
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 12:04pm
 Seeding for the world cup confrimed today |
Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 12:07pm
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Argentina England Sweden Australia I think that would see England out after the group stages again ------------- Eamonn Dunphy:"I'll tell you who wrote it, Rod Liddle, he's the guy who ran away and left his wife for a young one". Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn |
Posted By: Roberto Baggio
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 12:15pm
How depressing that that's all we have to look forward to again |
Posted By: Gary McKay
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 12:25pm
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I'll be cheering on my cousins from Panama ------------- "Smalling and Jones.... have the potential to be the PL’s best ever pairing in my opinion." - SlurAlex |
Posted By: colemanY2K
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 12:43pm
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Peru in pot 2 is a bit of a surprise. Will be cheering them on as well as Panama. ------------- "One of the dominant facts in English life during the past three quarters of a century has been the decay of ability in the ruling class." Orwell, 1942. |
Posted By: colemanY2K
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 1:01pm
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/russia-2018-world-cup-draw-simulator/" rel="nofollow - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/russia-2018-world-cup-draw-simulator/ Brazil England Iran Nigeria That's who the English got the first time I did it. ------------- "One of the dominant facts in English life during the past three quarters of a century has been the decay of ability in the ruling class." Orwell, 1942. |
Posted By: lassassinblanc
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 1:16pm
They are 10th in the World by FIFA Rankings |
Posted By: belt
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 2:10pm
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We'd have been Pot 3 based on our FIFA Ranking Brazil Spain Ireland Serbia or Poland Peru Ireland Saudi Arabia The difference.............
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Posted By: coyne
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 2:40pm
Not allowed more than 2 UEFA nations in the same group. (More than 1 for the other confederations)
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Posted By: Bob Hoskins
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 3:50pm
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It's depressing seeing those groups ------------- Romario 2016: And the ticket mafia gets caught! Well, four years ago I had already told the government. |
Posted By: ShamtheRam
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 3:53pm
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Colombia abú ------------- YBIG NPF founder and CEO |
Posted By: colemanY2K
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 3:54pm
Not sure how they wrangled into that position after finishing 5th in South America with a goal difference of +1  However I'm delighted to see them qualify after a soon-to-be 36 year wait. Hon Peru
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Posted By: Shedite
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 5:06pm
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Posted By: coyne
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2017 at 12:28pm
| Peru's Paolo Guerrero out the WC because of a 1 year suspension for testing positive for cocaine |