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Topic: Scottish Celtic Fans
Posted By: irishmufc
Subject: Scottish Celtic Fans
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2012 at 5:53pm
Irish celtic fans might be able to answer this for me.
The auld fella read paddy crerands book where he said he wouldve loved to play for the republic if the granny rule was in at the time.the scottish team had a strong orange influence and the SFA too.crerands grandparents were from donegal and he was very proud of his irish ancestry.
just wondering how scottish celtic fans feel about the national team.im sure they like to see the celtic players do well.a lifelong cetic fan i know from glasgow has no time for the national team.from going to celtic games or going on the forums do they get behind the team nowadays?
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Posted By: Tiocfaidh Armani
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2012 at 5:58pm
I would say most support Scotland and nearly all would have Ireland as a second team, with about 10-20% maybe who would support Ireland over Scotland. I have a lot of friends who would support Ireland over Scotland and who are openly hostile to the Scottish national team. But I'd say a healthy majority would support the Scottish team.
99% of them want England out on their arse as soon as possible as well
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Posted By: irishmufc
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2012 at 6:06pm
What i like about scotland fans is when they travel they dont seem to bring many union jacks (unlike thoses flutefaces up above) just their national flags which look really impressive in the stands with all the different placenames on them.
A scottish away game would be great craic id say
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Posted By: Vivakenbarlow
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2012 at 7:27pm
3 Celtic threads and a Sheffield united thread- ffs
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Posted By: irishmufc
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2012 at 7:46pm
Vivakenbarlow wrote:
3 Celtic threads and a Sheffield united thread- ffs |
This thread is nothing to do with the celtic team as such.it was just a quick inquiry into celtic fans perspective of the scottish national team nowadays.its a legimate thread ken
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Posted By: MayoMark
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2012 at 9:01pm
I know a fella born and bred in glasgow, been in Castlebar for many years. He's a massive Celtic fan, meet him eery Thursday night at Castlebar Celtic draw and always enjoy his stories from games he's been to in Glasgow. He always says he's been to a Scotland game twice, and it was twice too many. Very big Ireland fan and never nisses a game at home
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Posted By: reabhloid
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2012 at 9:06pm
i read somewhere that there were a lot of celtic fans including the celtic board of directors in the ireland end when scotland played ireland in1988 euro qualification ...hardly surprising...ended up with a scot putting the ball in the back of the english net in stuttgart in the finals
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Posted By: horsebox
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2012 at 9:41pm
irishmufc wrote:
What i like about scotland fans is when they travel they dont seem to bring many union jacks (unlike thoses flutefaces up above) just their national flags which look really impressive in the stands with all the different placenames on them.
A scottish away game would be great craic id say |
Why would they bring Union Jacks? They are Scottish and proud. The hate the English more than we do. Their also looking to break away from the Union.
I always supported Scotland as a kid (excluding Ireland of course).
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Posted By: reabhloid
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2012 at 9:51pm
horsebox wrote:
irishmufc wrote:
What i like about scotland fans is when they travel they dont seem to bring many union jacks (unlike thoses flutefaces up above) just their national flags which look really impressive in the stands with all the different placenames on them.
A scottish away game would be great craic id say |
Why would they bring Union Jacks? They are Scottish and proud. The hate the English more than we do. Their also looking to break away from the Union.
I always supported Scotland as a kid (excluding Ireland of course). | scoti is latin for irish...so similar peoples
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Posted By: colemanY2K
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2012 at 10:01pm
After living in Scotland for 7 years I can tell you that most Celtic fans don't really care too much about the national team. This is particularly the case the closer you get to Glasgow. The tartan army is a big attraction for fans outside the old firm as they know their clubs have little chance of being in the spotlight unlike their national team who used to regularly qualify for tournaments....that said they have the best (in terms of numbers) travelling support in the qualifiers. They take 3 or 4 times more fans than we do to away games.
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Posted By: reabhloid
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2012 at 10:36pm
colemanY2K wrote:
After living in Scotland for 7 years I can tell you that most Celtic fans don't really care too much about the national team. This is particularly the case the closer you get to Glasgow. The tartan army is a big attraction for fans outside the old firm as they know their clubs have little chance of being in the spotlight unlike their national team who used to regularly qualify for tournaments....that said they have the best (in terms of numbers) travelling support in the qualifiers. They take 3 or 4 times more fans than we do to away games. |
and they can sing their national anthem like there is no tomorrow..!
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Posted By: PhilliyK
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2012 at 10:36pm
Vivakenbarlow wrote:
3 Celtic threads and a Sheffield united thread- ffs |
1 Leeds 1 Reading 1 Southampton 2 Chelsea 2 Barca 2 Madrid 1 Bayern 2 Rangers 1 Villa 2 Liverpool And 1 Sunderland You forgot all these off yer list there Barlow all on page 1 ffs
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Posted By: Newryrep
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2012 at 10:59pm
reabhloid wrote:
colemanY2K wrote:
After living in Scotland for 7 years I can tell you that most Celtic fans don't really care too much about the national team. This is particularly the case the closer you get to Glasgow. The tartan army is a big attraction for fans outside the old firm as they know their clubs have little chance of being in the spotlight unlike their national team who used to regularly qualify for tournaments....that said they have the best (in terms of numbers) travelling support in the qualifiers. They take 3 or 4 times more fans than we do to away games. |
and they can sing their national anthem like there is no tomorrow..! |
And what nationality entitles them to play for the scottish football team ?
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Posted By: colemanY2K
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2012 at 6:12am
Newryrep wrote:
reabhloid wrote:
colemanY2K wrote:
After living in Scotland for 7 years I can tell you that most Celtic fans don't really care too much about the national team. This is particularly the case the closer you get to Glasgow. The tartan army is a big attraction for fans outside the old firm as they know their clubs have little chance of being in the spotlight unlike their national team who used to regularly qualify for tournaments....that said they have the best (in terms of numbers) travelling support in the qualifiers. They take 3 or 4 times more fans than we do to away games. | and they can sing their national anthem like there is no tomorrow..! |
And what nationality entitles them to play for the scottish football team ? |
Scottish
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Posted By: Saint Tom
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2012 at 8:25am
colemanY2K wrote:
After living in Scotland for 7 years I can tell you that most Celtic fans don't really care too much about the national team. This is particularly the case the closer you get to Glasgow. The tartan army is a big attraction for fans outside the old firm as they know their clubs have little chance of being in the spotlight unlike their national team who used to regularly qualify for tournaments....that said they have the best (in terms of numbers) travelling support in the qualifiers. They take 3 or 4 times more fans than we do to away games. |
not true - numbers are broadly similar. understandable that our numbers are down for the last campaign though
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Posted By: colemanY2K
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2012 at 8:44am
Saint Tom wrote:
colemanY2K wrote:
After living in Scotland for 7 years I can tell you that most Celtic fans don't really care too much about the national team. This is particularly the case the closer you get to Glasgow. The tartan army is a big attraction for fans outside the old firm as they know their clubs have little chance of being in the spotlight unlike their national team who used to regularly qualify for tournaments....that said they have the best (in terms of numbers) travelling support in the qualifiers. They take 3 or 4 times more fans than we do to away games. |
not true - numbers are broadly similar. understandable that our numbers are down for the last campaign though |
ok fair enough. I had a number of conversations with locals in Skopje and Bari who said they couldn't get over the number of Scots who were there in previous qualifying matches. Also a mate who's in the tartan army was filling me in on the numbers of supporters at away games and it certainly appears to be a lot more than what we bring. It would be understandable with football being their number 1 sport and having no other real challengers to it i.e. no GAA and rugby is very much a minority sport.
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Posted By: BaileNuisBhoy
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2012 at 8:51am
They brought massive support to Dublin last year for the Carling Nations Cup
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Posted By: Newryrep
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2012 at 9:17am
colemanY2K wrote:
Newryrep wrote:
reabhloid wrote:
colemanY2K wrote:
After living in Scotland for 7 years I can tell you that most Celtic fans don't really care too much about the national team. This is particularly the case the closer you get to Glasgow. The tartan army is a big attraction for fans outside the old firm as they know their clubs have little chance of being in the spotlight unlike their national team who used to regularly qualify for tournaments....that said they have the best (in terms of numbers) travelling support in the qualifiers. They take 3 or 4 times more fans than we do to away games. | and they can sing their national anthem like there is no tomorrow..! |
And what nationality entitles them to play for the scottish football team ? |
Scottish |
dont think so, as far as FIFA is concerned their nationailiy is British Their eligibility comes under the singular nationality clause in which your nationality entitles you to play for more than one team ie British
Saint Tom wrote:
colemanY2K wrote:
After living in Scotland for 7 years I can tell you that most Celtic fans don't really care too much about the national team. This is particularly the case the closer you get to Glasgow. The tartan army is a big attraction for fans outside the old firm as they know their clubs have little chance of being in the spotlight unlike their national team who used to regularly qualify for tournaments....that said they have the best (in terms of numbers) travelling support in the qualifiers. They take 3 or 4 times more fans than we do to away games. |
not true - numbers are broadly similar. understandable that our numbers are down for the last campaign though |
dont think so Tom, they travel in bigger numbers than we do. they took 8000 to Prague 2 years ago to watch a 4 6 0 formation half of them with out tickets and they havent qualified for anything since 98 ? when the last time we took 8000 ? Paris in a WC play off
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Posted By: gspain
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2012 at 9:37am
Our numbers have dropped a lot though for the last 2 campaigns We had better away support under Stan (although the economy rather than the manager might be the explanation).
We had 6,000 in Prague midweek in 07.
We brought almost 40,000 to Paris in 04 - appreciate a lot of factors like tickets freely available, saturday game etc but it was some crowd. I don't recall Scotland bringing that many to the continent for a qualifier.
I'd say they have more away support recently but we would have had more for most of the previous 20 years. The TA are better organised - proper travel clubs etc
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Posted By: reabhloid
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2012 at 12:54pm
http://provossf.webs.com/scottishira.htm" rel="nofollow - http://provossf.webs.com/scottishira.htm this was a good tartan army..!
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Posted By: Baldrick
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2012 at 12:59pm
Tartan Army sound bunch of lads most of them and a lot of them arae scotland first and foremost and prefer if club shirts are left at home which in the main is what happens with them. They do travel in great numbers and considering they have not qualifed since 98 they get great numbers.
Not as many from Glasgow as from places like Stirling, Inverness, Aberdeen etc.
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Posted By: irishmufc
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2012 at 1:47pm
horsebox wrote:
irishmufc wrote:
What i like about scotland fans is when they travel they dont seem to bring many union jacks (unlike thoses flutefaces up above) just their national flags which look really impressive in the stands with all the different placenames on them.
A scottish away game would be great craic id say |
Why would they bring Union Jacks? They are Scottish and proud. The hate the English more than we do. Their also looking to break away from the Union.
I always supported Scotland as a kid (excluding Ireland of course). |
well i suppose any rangers supporters at the scotland games would probably be more likely to bring union jacks as they d associate themselves as being british along with being scottish.but AFAIK the scottish fans dont seem to which is good to see.
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Posted By: irishmufc
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2012 at 1:55pm
Baldrick wrote:
Tartan Army sound bunch of lads most of them and a lot of them arae scotland first and foremost and prefer if club shirts are left at home which in the main is what happens with them. They do travel in great numbers and considering they have not qualifed since 98 they get great numbers.
Not as many from Glasgow as from places like Stirling, Inverness, Aberdeen etc.
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it seems to be the same with england where the top premiership sides fans dont seem to follow the national team. I was at wembley a few years ago the united fans were singing "You Can Stick Your England Up Your Arse"
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Posted By: Del-Piero
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2012 at 1:58pm
Posted By: irishmufc
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2012 at 2:17pm
i thanked ya by accident there but ya there is a north south divide.i think at the england the united and liverpool players tend to get on better with each other.one of the lads posted before that its fans of the lower league english teams that go to the national side games.
The SFA years ago had had an orange element to it which probably put alot of celtic fans off the team understandably but its probably not the case nowadays
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Posted By: samscafe
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2012 at 3:28pm
from 1912 well into the 1980s there was a terrible 'orange tint' to the SFA. You only have to look at the treatment of Jimmy McGrory (the UK's most prolific goalscorer) yet he got 7 caps for Scotland. Even the famous Lisbon Lions who were part of Europe's elite f0r 5 years got telling fewer caps than their Rangers counterparts. What has changed, however, is Rangers fans now seem to support England and have stopped going to Scotland games. Watching Scotland is now a much more pleasant experience.
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Posted By: Landon Donovan
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2012 at 3:40pm
samscafe wrote:
What has changed, however, is Rangers fans now seem to support England and have stopped going to Scotland games. Watching Scotland is now a much more pleasant experience. | Horse manure
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Posted By: Del-Piero
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2012 at 3:53pm
irishmufc wrote:
i thanked ya by accident there but ya there is a north south divide.i think at the england the united and liverpool players tend to get on better with each other.one of the lads posted before that its fans of the lower league english teams that go to the national side games.
The SFA years ago had had an orange element to it which probably put alot of celtic fans off the team understandably but its probably not the case nowadays |
Nothing wrong with that, i'll gladly accept the 5 points
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Posted By: Newryrep
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2012 at 4:01pm
gspain wrote:
We had 6,000 in Prague midweek in 07.
We brought almost 40,000 to Paris in 04 - appreciate a lot of factors like tickets freely available, saturday game etc but it was some crowd. I don't recall Scotland bringing that many to the continent for a qualifier.
I'd say they have more away support recently but we would have had more for most of the previous 20 years. The TA are better organised - proper travel clubs etc
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Did we really have 6000 ? at Prague, I was only at Bratislava dont recall that many at the weekend 40K was a great crowd TBF Maybe they have less bandwagonners , they dont exactly have a bandwagon to jump on. I was struck by the 8000 at Prague, thought it was a hell of a figure though Prague is an attractive venue. Their away scheme is in regular use given their numbers travelling
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Posted By: irishmufc
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2012 at 4:28pm
Using ybig on the android phone is a pain in the arse alright
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Posted By: colemanY2K
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2012 at 9:30pm
Newryrep wrote:
colemanY2K wrote:
Newryrep wrote:
reabhloid wrote:
colemanY2K wrote:
After living in Scotland for 7 years I can tell you that most Celtic fans don't really care too much about the national team. This is particularly the case the closer you get to Glasgow. The tartan army is a big attraction for fans outside the old firm as they know their clubs have little chance of being in the spotlight unlike their national team who used to regularly qualify for tournaments....that said they have the best (in terms of numbers) travelling support in the qualifiers. They take 3 or 4 times more fans than we do to away games. | and they can sing their national anthem like there is no tomorrow..! |
And what nationality entitles them to play for the scottish football team ? |
Scottish |
dont think so, as far as FIFA is concerned their nationailiy is British Their eligibility comes under the singular nationality clause in which your nationality entitles you to play for more than one team ie British
Saint Tom wrote:
colemanY2K wrote:
After living in Scotland for 7 years I can tell you that most Celtic fans don't really care too much about the national team. This is particularly the case the closer you get to Glasgow. The tartan army is a big attraction for fans outside the old firm as they know their clubs have little chance of being in the spotlight unlike their national team who used to regularly qualify for tournaments....that said they have the best (in terms of numbers) travelling support in the qualifiers. They take 3 or 4 times more fans than we do to away games. |
not true - numbers are broadly similar. understandable that our numbers are down for the last campaign though |
dont think so Tom, they travel in bigger numbers than we do. they took 8000 to Prague 2 years ago to watch a 4 6 0 formation half of them with out tickets and they havent qualified for anything since 98 ? when the last time we took 8000 ? Paris in a WC play off |
You are whatever nationality you associate yourself with. e.g. People from Scotland by and large associate themselves as Scots, the basques the same, the catalans again the same etc. Citizenship is a different matter though. At this moment in time the Scots are citizens of the UK but that doesn't mean they have to sing GSTQ because that has nothing to do with nationality.
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Posted By: samscafe
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2012 at 6:01am
Landon Donovan wrote:
samscafe wrote:
What has changed, however, is Rangers fans now seem to support England and have stopped going to Scotland games. Watching Scotland is now a much more pleasant experience. | Horse manure |
What do you know? You've been shown up to be a clueless bawbag.
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Posted By: Double Maxim
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2012 at 6:02am
Most Scots based Celtic fans that I've met follow the Republic of Ireland.
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Posted By: Landon Donovan
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2012 at 8:52am
samscafe wrote:
Landon Donovan wrote:
samscafe wrote:
What has changed, however, is Rangers fans now seem to support England and have stopped going to Scotland games. Watching Scotland is now a much more pleasant experience. | Horse manure |
What do you know? You've been shown up to be a clueless bawbag. |
Bawbag?
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Posted By: samscafe
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2012 at 10:00am
Landon Donovan wrote:
samscafe wrote:
Landon Donovan wrote:
samscafe wrote:
What has changed, however, is Rangers fans now seem to support England and have stopped going to Scotland games. Watching Scotland is now a much more pleasant experience. | Horse manure |
What do you know? You've been shown up to be a clueless bawbag. |
Bawbag? |
Sorry, you are correct, this is Sunday. Clueless Scrotum.
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Posted By: Newryrep
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2012 at 2:05pm
samscafe wrote:
What has changed, however, is Rangers fans now seem to support England and have stopped going to Scotland games. Watching Scotland is now a much more pleasant experience. |
a relatively recent poll (last year) on the TAMB indicsted that the largest group of Scotland supporters were rangers fans ( nowithstanding those who sang you can shove the TA up your arse)
colemanY2K wrote:
You are whatever nationality you associate yourself with. e.g. People from Scotland by and large associate themselves as Scots, the basques the same, the catalans again the same etc. Citizenship is a different matter though. At this moment in time the Scots are citizens of the UK but that doesn't mean they have to sing GSTQ because that has nothing to do with nationality. |
Football eligibility is covered by articles 15 and 16 (article numbers have changed but not the content) Artcile 15 is the general eligibity that the vast majority of countrys are governed by, basically nationality determines eligibility . Article 16 covers where a single nationality (British) entitles you to play for several teams. Players are entitled to play for Scotland because of this british nationality . In Kearns V IFA the nationalities in dispute were Irish and British, not Irish and Northern Irish . I sincerely hope Scotland gains its indepenance
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Posted By: samscafe
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2012 at 4:04pm
Newryrep wrote:
[QUOTE=samscafe]
What has changed, however, is Rangers fans now seem to support England and have stopped going to Scotland games. Watching Scotland is now a much more pleasant experience. |
a relatively recent poll (last year) on the TAMB indicsted that the largest group of Scotland supporters were rangers fans ( nowithstanding those who sang you can shove the TA up your arse) [QUOTE=colemanY2K]
The Tartan Army MB has about 60 members. Anyway, I am talking about attending games.
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Posted By: Landon Donovan
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2012 at 6:47pm
samscafe wrote:
Newryrep wrote:
[QUOTE=samscafe]
What has changed, however, is Rangers fans now seem to support England and have stopped going to Scotland games. Watching Scotland is now a much more pleasant experience. |
a relatively recent poll (last year) on the TAMB indicsted that the largest group of Scotland supporters were rangers fans ( nowithstanding those who sang you can shove the TA up your arse) [QUOTE=colemanY2K]
The Tartan Army MB has about 60 members. Anyway, I am talking about attending games. |
Do you go around Hamden surveying people?
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Posted By: Newryrep
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2012 at 6:55pm
samscafe wrote:
Newryrep wrote:
[QUOTE=samscafe]
What has changed, however, is Rangers fans now seem to support England and have stopped going to Scotland games. Watching Scotland is now a much more pleasant experience. |
a relatively recent poll (last year) on the TAMB indicsted that the largest group of Scotland supporters were rangers fans ( nowithstanding those who sang you can shove the TA up your arse) [QUOTE=colemanY2K]
The Tartan Army MB has about 60 members. Anyway, I am talking about attending games. |
As to attending games plenty on it attend both Home and away games which is what first got my interst as they played Georgia ( as we were due to), Italy in Bari, Macedonia and alsois/ Sweden before us so was particurlity handy for routes/tips etc So yeah I would imagine its a fair representative os Scotland fans, the largest grouping just of which were Rangers fans
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Posted By: gspain
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2012 at 7:36pm
Newryrep wrote:
gspain wrote:
We had 6,000 in Prague midweek in 07.
We brought almost 40,000 to Paris in 04 - appreciate a lot of factors like tickets freely available, saturday game etc but it was some crowd. I don't recall Scotland bringing that many to the continent for a qualifier.
I'd say they have more away support recently but we would have had more for most of the previous 20 years. The TA are better organised - proper travel clubs etc
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Did we really have 6000 ? at Prague, I was only at Bratislava dont recall that many at the weekend 40K was a great crowd TBF Maybe they have less bandwagonners , they dont exactly have a bandwagon to jump on. I was struck by the 8000 at Prague, thought it was a hell of a figure though Prague is an attractive venue. Their away scheme is in regular use given their numbers travelling |
We had huge ticket issues in advance for Prague although the touts had loads. Celtic Tiger was still in full swing then though. Loads just can't afford it anymore.
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Posted By: colemanY2K
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2012 at 8:08pm
gspain wrote:
Newryrep wrote:
gspain wrote:
We had 6,000 in Prague midweek in 07.
We brought almost 40,000 to Paris in 04 - appreciate a lot of factors like tickets freely available, saturday game etc but it was some crowd. I don't recall Scotland bringing that many to the continent for a qualifier.
I'd say they have more away support recently but we would have had more for most of the previous 20 years. The TA are better organised - proper travel clubs etc
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Did we really have 6000 ? at Prague, I was only at Bratislava dont recall that many at the weekend 40K was a great crowd TBF Maybe they have less bandwagonners , they dont exactly have a bandwagon to jump on. I was struck by the 8000 at Prague, thought it was a hell of a figure though Prague is an attractive venue. Their away scheme is in regular use given their numbers travelling |
We had huge ticket issues in advance for Prague although the touts had loads. Celtic Tiger was still in full swing then though. Loads just can't afford it anymore.
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Really? My mate and I got tickets the day of the game in a pub. Didn't even know there was ticketing issues
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Posted By: colemanY2K
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2012 at 10:07pm
Newryrep wrote:
samscafe wrote:
What has changed, however, is Rangers fans now seem to support England and have stopped going to Scotland games. Watching Scotland is now a much more pleasant experience. |
a relatively recent poll (last year) on the TAMB indicsted that the largest group of Scotland supporters were rangers fans ( nowithstanding those who sang you can shove the TA up your arse)
colemanY2K wrote:
You are whatever nationality you associate yourself with. e.g. People from Scotland by and large associate themselves as Scots, the basques the same, the catalans again the same etc. Citizenship is a different matter though. At this moment in time the Scots are citizens of the UK but that doesn't mean they have to sing GSTQ because that has nothing to do with nationality. |
Football eligibility is covered by articles 15 and 16 (article numbers have changed but not the content) Artcile 15 is the general eligibity that the vast majority of countrys are governed by, basically nationality determines eligibility . Article 16 covers where a single nationality (British) entitles you to play for several teams. Players are entitled to play for Scotland because of this british nationality . In Kearns V IFA the nationalities in dispute were Irish and British, not Irish and Northern Irish . I sincerely hope Scotland gains its indepenance |
Who gives a fook about FIFA/UEFA eligibility rules. We're talking about the fans and what they see themselves as not the players. Nationality is normally defined by your citizenship but not always ...sometimes by ethnicity. That's why the Scots who are ethnically different from the English have a right to sing their own national anthem. They define their nationality through ethnic terms.
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