English Commentators prouncing Irish Surnames
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Topic: English Commentators prouncing Irish Surnames
Posted By: irishmufc
Subject: English Commentators prouncing Irish Surnames
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2012 at 10:24am
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Dont know if theres a thread on this put down any ive missed. Andy Keogh- Andy Keeeeeoooooo Darren O Dea - Darren O Day (Heard this one recently) Tim Cahill- Tim Caayhill (maybe cahill pronounces it like that himself) Steve McMahon- Steve McMaan (The dont pronounce the h) This isnt football related but why do the english pronunce the g in gallagher.its silent in ireland.well it is in mayo. ------------- Wings? They're only the band The Beatles could have been. |
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Posted By: thebronze14
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2012 at 10:26am
| Are they pronouncing mc clean right??Sounds like mc clane, girl from home pronounces it mc clean |
Posted By: irishmufc
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2012 at 10:29am
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Thats a good one.im not sure how thats pronounced in the north.id say its prounounced mclean with the a silent.id forgive them for that one cos i dont know it myself ------------- Wings? They're only the band The Beatles could have been. |
Posted By: seanyshuffler
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2012 at 10:32am
| I'm sure mcclean said on twitter before that its pronounced mcclane |
Posted By: Sligo Hornet
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2012 at 10:34am
So it's pronunced "allaher" in Mayo?........very odd ------------- Wallet ?? What the fcuk is that ? |
irishmufc wrote:Posted By: nvidic
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2012 at 10:38am
| Is the G not dropped everywhere here?! Was only thinking this watching keoghs goal earlier |
Posted By: Roberto Baggio
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2012 at 10:38am
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Ken Doerty
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Posted By: thebronze14
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2012 at 10:39am
Definitely something in the water down there  |
Posted By: 9fingers
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2012 at 10:39am
you bet me to it!
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Posted By: irishmufc
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2012 at 10:40am
very funny.obviously i meant the 2nd g.i assume the 2nd g isnt pronounced at all in ireland ------------- Wings? They're only the band The Beatles could have been. |
Posted By: irishmufc
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2012 at 10:42am
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Another one is Ronan O Gara - Ronan O Gawra .but that isnt too bad ------------- Wings? They're only the band The Beatles could have been. |
Posted By: drog addict
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2012 at 10:50am
What drives me mad is epl fans here doing the same especially with Tim Cahill. Think that goon on tv3 does the same.
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Posted By: Huggybeer
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2012 at 10:57am
It seems to be accepted in dublin pubs now that Tim or Gary Cahill are pronounced KHILL 
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Posted By: irishmufc
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2012 at 10:57am
the thing is cahill and the oz commentators probably pronounce it that way even though its an irish name and originally pronounced our way ------------- Wings? They're only the band The Beatles could have been. |
Posted By: Hoosay
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2012 at 11:18am
| That's the thing, Tim Cahill pronounces his name that way. Ronnie Moran used to pronounce his MorANN, Liam and Noel pronounce the second g in Gallagher. So if people pronounce their own name that way, what do you do? Tell them they're doing it wrong? |
Posted By: drog addict
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2012 at 11:27am
Yes. ------------- Chips don't bounce |
Posted By: irishmufc
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2012 at 11:41am
that d be awful funny if you met liam gallagher and politely told him they cannot pronounce their own name .i could imagine liam using an oscar wilde quip to counteract your comment.....or more than likely tell ya to fcuk off------------- Wings? They're only the band The Beatles could have been. |
Posted By: Green Devil
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2012 at 11:42am
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What pisses me off most of all is that the majority of British sports commentator's call Ireland "island" Pronounce your f**king r"s
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Posted By: angryant
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2012 at 11:42am
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Tim CaHILL pronounces it like that. The Darren O'Dea(day) pronouncing is actually pretty widespread. They pronounce it O'Day in the States as well as in Oz.
Another one is Fahey, or Farhey as they say over there.
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Posted By: irishmufc
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2012 at 11:51am
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Keith fahey is more of a keith fawhey ------------- Wings? They're only the band The Beatles could have been. |
Posted By: Green Devil
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2012 at 12:00pm
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On the Tipperary hurling team over the past 10/15 years there have been a good few Cahill's playing , you don't pronounce them like "Kayhill" around there! ------------- "He drives two Ferraris; I think he's a very lucky lad to have 50 caps for Ireland," Eamonn Dunphy on Glenn Whelan |
Posted By: Biffo
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2012 at 12:11pm
In Australia it's pronounced Kahil, if you were talking to Timmy and said Cahill -he'd say it's actually Kahill. who is right? |
Posted By: Green Devil
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2012 at 12:14pm
Given that Tim Cahills roots are Irish as are Gary Cahills the Irish way of saying is right of course  ------------- "He drives two Ferraris; I think he's a very lucky lad to have 50 caps for Ireland," Eamonn Dunphy on Glenn Whelan |
Posted By: BigPodge
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2012 at 12:32pm
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The thing that pissed me off most (though it's non-Irish related) was when Hamilton used to call Jaap Stam "Schtoom", wtf like??
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Posted By: BigStrongMan
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2012 at 12:40pm
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Posted By: BigStrongMan
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2012 at 12:43pm
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its the same as George Hamilton Milan-Meelan Barcalona-Bar-ha-lona Valencia-Va-len-(big gozzy noise)-ia etc ------------- PM me for all forum moderation queries. |
Posted By: FrankosHereNow
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2012 at 1:01pm
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My dad said he saw an interview with Lucas Neill and he said Timmy Cahill with the Irish pronunciation. He's also of Irish ancestory. Always annoyed me when English commentators say McGrath with the emphasis on the "th" ------------- YBIG Quiz Champion 2016, 2017 & 2018. As You Were Three in a row |
Posted By: Stoked Up
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2012 at 1:42pm
Some call us Ahhland. (actually, Ronnie Whelan almost does this) They always used to called Kevin Moran, More-ann. |
Posted By: dickybhoy
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2012 at 1:45pm
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Theres a lot of lazyness and arrogance from English commentators regarding Irish names.
eg Doherty they either put a 'c' in it or say doe erty
Fahey they normally say far-hee or sometimes fay.
Mahon is always mahn or ma-hone.
They seem to make an effort with other foreigners though, I've never heard Thierry Henry called Terry Henry (where you pronounce the H)
Also Owen Coyle is always described as Scottish even though he played admittedly only once for Ireland, and he has several times in interviews mentioned the fact that his parents are from donegal.
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Posted By: FREEWHEELER
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2012 at 2:09pm
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Charlie Hockey
Sillian Sheridan
Mark KinSELLA.
The Brits don't even try with names that are not English. It's what makes them loveable really. ------------- We'll never die, we'll never die, we'll keep the Green Flag flying high......Shamrock Rovers will never die, we'll keep the Green Flag Flying high. 19 Leagues and 25 Cups..... |
Posted By: John W
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2012 at 2:15pm
| Ryle Nugent get sexual plaesure of prouncing French players names. I can see cracking one out screaming Rooougerieeeeee |
Posted By: MayoMark
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2012 at 2:23pm
Gary Dockerty 
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Posted By: Green Devil
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2012 at 3:18pm
Thats funny out he's forever saying that ------------- "He drives two Ferraris; I think he's a very lucky lad to have 50 caps for Ireland," Eamonn Dunphy on Glenn Whelan |
Posted By: jackshat
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2012 at 4:04pm
I think he means gallaher. I would always pronounce it Gallagher myself. ------------- It's Jack Shat |
Posted By: jackshat
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2012 at 4:06pm
That mans English is f**king dreadful at times ------------- It's Jack Shat |
Posted By: Nnamdi Asomugha
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2012 at 5:45pm
In fairness to the British commentators they could counteract us and tell us to pronounce our h's in words such as, thick, thirty, three etc. So I wouldnt hold it against them there.
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Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2012 at 6:48pm
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Eh you are having trouble pronouncing and spelling the word 'pronouncing' in your thread title Irish mufc ------------- Pied Piper to: Baldrick, Brendan 88, 9Fingers, Borussia and more... 97.6% chance this post will be replied to by Baldrick (source: PWC) |
Posted By: tribalarmy
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2012 at 7:05pm
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I'd call Gary/Tim Cahill, Kayhill because that's the way they pronounce it. Same way I'd say David Veeya instead of Day-vid Villa. |
Posted By: tribalarmy
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2012 at 7:08pm
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What does annoy me is Kenny Cunningham calling Xabi Alonso, Xavier Alonso. And David Silva being called Da Silva. And Chris Waddle calling a penalty a PELANTY.
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Posted By: BoboDub
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2012 at 8:58pm
That one always cracks me up as so many people do that, but of course in spain va is pronounced ba, so they should be saying Ba-len-(big gozzy noise)-ia Ditto for Sevilla, Villareal and Valladolid Oh, and David Villa |
Posted By: kimbap
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2012 at 8:28am
Eh,not having a go at a fellow Mayo man but what you've described above is a person Saying Ronan O Gara in an English accent.If you were to mention Lord Finchley St John Smithe would you put on an English accent while saying it? Would sound fairly strange! In fact can you imagine if a commentator did this for a premiership game with all the different nationalities,would sound hilarious! |
Posted By: irishmufc
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2012 at 11:06am
you re right its more of an english accent dragging the aww out of the word as opposed to not pronkuncing it properly.actually the d4 accent does the same but it sounds ten times more annoying " O Gaawra and the goys"  .such twats.id rather have a buffer mayo accent (mine isnt that strong as im from the urban metropolis of westport ) but that fcukin d4 accent gets on my tits.one lad in college wasnt even from the d4 area and he was putting the accent on------------- Wings? They're only the band The Beatles could have been. |
Posted By: Bob Hoskins
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2012 at 11:07am
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what complete nonsense this thread is. I've a mate from Mayo second name Keane, he says it's pronounced Kane.. There are examples of this all across Ireland, but the big bad English read Irish names in their accents that are different to ours -- - -- - oh my GAWWWWWWDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD ------------- Romario 2016: And the ticket mafia gets caught! Well, four years ago I had already told the government. |
Posted By: irishmufc
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2012 at 11:09am
cheeky cxxt ------------- Wings? They're only the band The Beatles could have been. |
Posted By: irishmufc
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2012 at 11:19am
Your right about about the kane thing but its just another excuse to have a go at the english.it really doesnt bother me that much.we re always giving off about them whether its their colonial past,sky sports coverage,john terry or their team so its another thing to throw into the mix. What is stupid though is they can pronounce difficult names of players of different countries at world cups but because they speak the same language as us they assume they re saying the names properly.its just them being harmlessly ignorant.its not a diplomatic crisis or anything,its funny to point it out ------------- Wings? They're only the band The Beatles could have been. |
Posted By: Clonbhoy
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2012 at 11:31am
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Just get them to say drawing or bananarama, laugh and move on ------------- A man can have no greater love than give 90 minutes to his friends. @withgodlygrace |
Posted By: irishmufc
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2012 at 11:38am
------------- Wings? They're only the band The Beatles could have been. |
Posted By: newrygreen
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2012 at 12:31pm
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Drogbarrrr
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Posted By: Rostrevor Fan
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2012 at 1:14pm
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Big difference in parts of Ireland pronouncing names i.e Kearney up north is pronounced Ker-Knee
down south its Car-Knee - not just a british thing also up north Darren O'Dea would be pronounced O'Day just like O'Shea is O'Shay -
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Posted By: AntrimMan
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2012 at 1:18pm
That one genuinely annoys me for some reason. ( insert your own Angry Nordie comment here) ------------- @AntrimMan85 |
Posted By: McG
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2012 at 1:28pm
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The yanks
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Posted By: Sligo Hornet
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2012 at 1:32pm
Pronounced "Droba" in Mayo ------------- Wallet ?? What the fcuk is that ? |
Posted By: Rostrevor Fan
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2012 at 1:35pm
I wonder what their neighbours in Co alway think of their silent G
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Posted By: irishmufc
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2012 at 1:55pm
cheeky bastards ------------- Wings? They're only the band The Beatles could have been. |
Posted By: Trapped
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2012 at 1:59pm
A lot of southsiders say "Areland" for Ireland 
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Posted By: Roberto Baggio
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2012 at 4:18pm
it was John Motson that started the strange craze of putting an R at the end of his surname
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Posted By: Conor Messi
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2012 at 8:59pm
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What's worse, an English commentator who can't really pronounce Irish surnames properly or somebody starting a thread about it and not being able to spell the word pronouncing? "prouncing"  ------------- @MessiConor Hasta La Victoria Siempre |
Posted By: irishmufc
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2012 at 9:37pm
i didnt realise it till it was too late.its a pain in the arse how you cant edit your title thread.good spot ------------- Wings? They're only the band The Beatles could have been. |