Euro 2012 Squad Ladder
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Topic: Euro 2012 Squad Ladder
Posted By: SuperDave84
Subject: Euro 2012 Squad Ladder
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2012 at 10:21pm
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1. Given - Definite XI 2. Keane - Definite XI 3. Dunne - Definite XI 4. Duff - Definite XI 5. McGeady - Definite XI 6. Andrews - Definite XI 7. St Ledger - Definite XI 8. Doyle - Almost certain XI 9. Whelan - Almost certain XI 10. Ward - Probable XI 11. O'Shea - Probable XI, disappointing last night 12. Kelly - Probable XI, although a team without O'Shea anywhere would be unusual 13. Gibson - Could dislodge Whelan, although Trap may not trust that midfield as solid enough, definite for the squad, depends on his fitness form til the end of the season 14. Walters - Could dislodge Doyle in the starting XI, depends on Doyle's form as much as Walters 15. Hunt - Trap favourite and a first choice sub 16. O'Dea - Solid when called upon and a definite for the squad 17. Fahey - Squad certainty, playing well for Birmingham 18. Cox - Increasingly likely, especially after the goal vs the Czech Republic 19. Foley - Needs to get back in the Wolves team, as he could slip behind the likes of Coleman for right back 20. Coleman - Enough wingers in the squad, and he hasn't been playing enough this year, although versatility may say him on the plane 21. Long - Cox and Walters have staked their claims well, leaving aside league form, looking like most likely of the five to miss out, poor showing last night did him no favours 22. Westwood - Probably 2nd choice keeper, fitness permitting 23. Forde - Will probably make 3rd choice keeper 24. Murphy - Could make the squad but it is hard to say who will make it as no 3 keeper 25. Henderson - Ditto 26. Green - Will make the squad if Gibson not fit, could well have dislodged McCarthy from the squad after solid enough performance last night, definite Trap favourite 27. McCarthy - Whelan and Andrews are regulars at teams playing better in the league, Gibson definitely ahead of him if fit, would need to show more in the league to book his seat 28. Duffy - Enough centre backs in the squad, especially with O'Shea able to play there, unlikely to make it barring injuries 29. McClean - Barring a big change in heart from Trap, or prolonged good form for Sunderland, or injuries to others, looks unlikely he will make it 30. Clark - Depending on injuries to others to make it Tracey, Stokes, Wilson et al are dependent on injuries or catastrophic lack of form to make it. Leon Best obviously injured and unlikely to play enough before the summer to make it. And who knows what Hoolahan has to do? ------------- 
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Posted By: trapnoclue
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2012 at 11:05pm
| any chance of pounding green underneath that ladder! |
Posted By: irishmufc
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2012 at 11:15pm
excellent summary superdave  ------------- Wings? They're only the band The Beatles could have been. |
SuperDave84 wrote:Posted By: Pipkin
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2012 at 11:18pm
| I dont think Coleman will go, and yes I do think McClean will as McC and Seamie wont. |
Posted By: deise316
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2012 at 12:11am
Same here (injuries being the great unknown). BTW Dave, Whelan should be a lot further up that list, given he has started in every competitive game (that he has been fit for) under Trap. Whether people agree with that or not, I reckon Trap sees him as probably our most important outfield player after Dunne and Keane. ------------- Picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue..... |
Posted By: SuperDave84
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2012 at 12:21am
I dunno, he was taken off last night when Andrews wasn't. Might have been cos of the injury, but Andrews has been a lot more impressive this year. Both in green and for his club (even if a lot of that was in the Championship). -------------
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Posted By: Green Devil
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2012 at 12:22am
Without a doubt , Whelan is a Trap type player and definitely one of his favorites. He was off the field for something like 6minutes , alot of managers would have kept him off but Trap saw different. ------------- "He drives two Ferraris; I think he's a very lucky lad to have 50 caps for Ireland," Eamonn Dunphy on Glenn Whelan |
Posted By: deise316
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2012 at 12:26am
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Ya, I would agree with ya alright re Andrews/Whelan, but I doubt the main man agrees with either of us. Whelan has actually had a good season for Stoke though, he has cemented a position in the first 11, to the point where he is one of the important lads rested for Cup/Euro games, an achievement in itself given he was meant to be moving in last years January transfer window. ------------- Picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue..... |
Posted By: SuperDave84
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2012 at 12:33am
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Incidentally, the guardian did a piece this evening that has 22 of the 23 above in the probable squad: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2012/mar/01/giovanni-trapattoni-ireland-squad-euro-2012" rel="nofollow - http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2012/mar/01/giovanni-trapattoni-ireland-squad-euro-2012 The difference is Green for Coleman which is probably not unreasonable given last night. I got the impression Green thought he was playing for a place on the plane. And I should add that this appeared on their website at 23:00, after I posted above. -------------
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Posted By: deise316
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2012 at 12:37am
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Jaysus, these ladders have taken off in popularity.... Here's 3 of them from Miguel Delaney........... http://eircomsports.eircom.net/News/squad-ladders-week-2.aspx" rel="nofollow - http://eircomsports.eircom.net/News/squad-ladders-week-2.aspx
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Posted By: Green Devil
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2012 at 12:40am
Miguel's choice 6 strikers  ------------- "He drives two Ferraris; I think he's a very lucky lad to have 50 caps for Ireland," Eamonn Dunphy on Glenn Whelan |
Posted By: deise316
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2012 at 12:45am
miguelhasn'taclue.............  ------------- Picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue..... |
Posted By: SuperDave84
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2012 at 12:46am
And 24 players -------------
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Posted By: Green Devil
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2012 at 1:06am
The sheer number of these "potential squad" list's is gone beyond a joke at this stage , there is probably 2 places on the plane up for grabs maximum if everyone is fit and healthy. I wouldn't be surprised if Trap has the 23 picked already. ------------- "He drives two Ferraris; I think he's a very lucky lad to have 50 caps for Ireland," Eamonn Dunphy on Glenn Whelan |
Posted By: trapnoclue
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2012 at 1:10am
| green devil you think green is 1 of them? |
Posted By: Skipper
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2012 at 1:34am
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I think John oshea is more definite than probable ------------- Stephen Irelands Superman Jocks!! |
Posted By: SuperDave84
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2012 at 2:11pm
Kelly - St Ledger - Dunne - Ward?? O'Shea didn't play in Moscow or Tallinn and he wasn't suspended for either. I don't recall him being injured, but I could be wrong. I think he might not play every game. -------------
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Posted By: Pipkin
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2012 at 10:38am
From today's Times
Hello Mister Its probably a negative he mentions McClean in the same breath as McCarthy as I dont see McCarthy having a prayer. I still think McClean will get the nod ahead of Coleman but maybe he'll shock us all and bring both Mcs EDIT: Funny he mentions watching Norwich |
Posted By: greengiant
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2012 at 11:05am
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Im glad he has mentioned Norwich!...at least he knows they have Irish players!!....hes bound to be watching a lot more games and im looking forward to..fingers crossed a bit of a shake up after the Euros,ie some players who deserve a shot been giving one!...cant see him taking a punt on any of the Norwich lads for the euros?! ------------- The first two-syllable word I ever learned growing up was discretion." Dunphy on a his childhood |
Posted By: trapnoclue
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2012 at 11:07am
| no point on us guessing the squad cos like the tickets its a lottery,lets just hope green doesnt get lucky. |
Posted By: niall290
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2012 at 1:16pm
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Any date for when the squad will be picked?? ------------- June 2012 party time!! |
Posted By: trapforpresident
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2012 at 2:05pm
| may 7th for squad I read somewhere in the last few weeks.with hunts injury problems it looks more likely mcclean will go ,think mccarthy will make it too after trap positive comments. |
Posted By: BigStrongMan
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2012 at 2:33pm
thought this was going to be a limited edition ladder
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Posted By: Saint Tom
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2012 at 7:56pm
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interesting times ahead ------------- My destination inchicore my next stop being kilmainham Where patriots and super saints are the topics of conversation |
Posted By: hulkhogan
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2012 at 10:39pm
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given forde westwood foley kelly ward oshea odea dunne sledge hunt fahey andrews whelan green McGeady Duff McLean Walters,Long,Cox,Keane, Doyle My guess at the moment. Personally Id like to see McCharty,Coleman and Gibson for Hunt,Foley and Green but just cant see it happening |
Posted By: trapnoclue
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2012 at 11:00pm
| any chance green got a belt of that ladder yet |
Posted By: 4tothefloor
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2012 at 11:41pm
| I wonder is McGeady in trouble seeing that he has effectively been frozen out at Moscow? He's not getting any game time, not ideal preparation for such a big tournament. If he continues to be frozen out it will be a problem for Trap |
Posted By: SuperDave84
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2012 at 1:54am
I think Gibbo has to make it. He has only been going up in the last two months. Maybe Green to lose out? Or maybe Fahey? Compared to those two, Gibson has to make it. Even in the wonderful, all-knowing mind of Trap. Hunt will definitely go, Foley probably..... but Gibbo should displace Green or Fahey. Travesty if he doesn't. -------------
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Posted By: niall290
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2012 at 9:03am
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Lads id be of the opinion that three keepers is too many.Bring two keepers and you then have an option of bringing an extra outfield player?
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Posted By: tetsujin1979
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2012 at 11:13am
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Posted By: niall290
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2012 at 11:18am
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I wasnt aware of that.Pretty stupid rule to be fair.The chances of two keepers getting injured are slim to none!!!
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Posted By: SuperDave84
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2012 at 11:45am
Google "North Korea" and "third goalkeeper" and "2010 World Cup". -------------
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Posted By: tetsujin1979
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2012 at 12:00pm
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Posted By: horsebox
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2012 at 12:02pm
1 injured keeper your reserve keeps gets a straight red - and your rightly fooked. Your also the laughing stock of world football for being so naive. ------------- It was far across the sea, When the devil got a hold of me, He wouldn't set me free, So he kept me soul for ransom. na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na. I'm a sailor man from Glasgow to |
Posted By: Baldrick
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2012 at 12:11pm
That is what the coach or manager is called in ITaly.; Mister. ------------- AKA pedantic kunt |
Posted By: SuperDave84
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2012 at 12:21pm
Yup. A hangover from the introduction of the game by English sailors. The use of English around the world in football terms (for instance, many countries used the word "corner" even though their own languages have a different word for corner) is not by any means unique to Italy. Anyway, read Forza Italia by Paddy Agnew, or Calcio by John Foot. Both good reads on Italian football. -------------
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Posted By: hulkhogan
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2012 at 12:10pm
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http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2012/0429/318916-mcclean-90-99-to-get-euros-call/" rel="nofollow - http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2012/0429/318916-mcclean-90-99-to-get-euros-call/ Just thought id bump this as a lot of talk going on at the moment, for me what it looks like TRAP IS bringing is: Given Westwood Forde Foley Kelly O'Shea Dunne O'Dea Ward St Ledger McClean Hunt Duff McGeady Andrews Whelan Fahey McCharty/Gibson Doyle Keane Walters Cox Long 4 Back up: Gibson/McCharty Green Coleman Keogh? |
Posted By: SuperDave84
Date Posted: 07 May 2012 at 4:23pm
22/23. Not bad, and the one I didn't get is on the standby list. -------------
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Posted By: SuperDave84
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2019 at 12:23am
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Bump, apropos of the discussion elsewhere on Coleman in 2012.
Here's another view on it.
And Deise agreed too. Now, part of what all of us were doing was predicting what Trap would do rather than what we thought (at least it was what I was doing) but, by the same token, there wasn't any great outrage. Similarly, if you look here: https://forum.ybig.ie/seamus-coleman_topic35066_page4.html" rel="nofollow - https://forum.ybig.ie/seamus-coleman_topic35066_page4.html And onwards on that thread, there wasn't a mad clamour to have him on the plane in 2012, nor was there a huge shock when he wasn't included in the squad. -------------
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Posted By: Cabra Hoop
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2019 at 12:33am
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Prior to 2012, most had total faith in Trap and didn't ask too many questions about his decisions. Little did we know what was to follow. As bad as our performances were in 2012, it was a great trip and the perfect antidote to difficult economic times... ------------- " BFC always gives me a laugh........ " |