Rory Delap
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Topic: Rory Delap
Posted By: The Rovers
Subject: Rory Delap
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2008 at 6:57am
Rory for Ireland! Them throw - ins yesterday were something else, if i remember correctly back in his derby county days was a descent goalscorer too and can play full back or midfield, would he not be worth a place in the 22? Considering his teammate glenn whelan is and he cant get a starting place with delaps club.
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Posted By: t_rAndy
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2008 at 7:00am
remember how sh*t he was when he played for us though
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Posted By: The Count
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2008 at 7:00am
fookin hell he was sticking in some throws yesterday. very route 1 are stoke and maybe thats why whelan isnt getting in. Thought lawrence was quiet yesterday, has played much better this season. defo think both of them should be in the squad in fairness as both playing week in week out for premiership clubs!
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Posted By: seaniemac
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2008 at 7:01am
That lad can throw the ball further than I can kick it. Was watching match of the day 2 last night, what was it, 35 metres or something?! What age is he now? Trappa loves the set pieces and that is some weapon to have.
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Posted By: Justice Shark
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2008 at 7:02am
Some fookin throw on the lad. He practially scored from it. Smashing game of footballl to watch as well it has to be said.
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Posted By: The Rovers
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2008 at 7:02am
Exactly, must be worth place in the squad anyway
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Posted By: erimus
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2008 at 7:10am
his throws would be more effective than hunts crosses
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Posted By: gouldinho
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2008 at 7:25am
Jack Charlton would of loved Delap. Yeah i think he is worth a shot in the squad. Dont care what he plays like just throw the damn ball and stay out of the way. Premier league teams know what to expect when playing stoke but could you imagine what the Italians or the bulgarians would think if he just started bombing the ball into the box. I think he could be a secret weapon. if only we had a target man.
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Posted By: Bob Hoskins
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2008 at 9:57am
erimus wrote:
his throws would be more effective than hunts crosses |
Is that what they call them?
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Posted By: Donal Cullen
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2008 at 11:18am
I hate to say it but I was always a fan of Rory Delap's. He never got a decent run in the side and looks like a dopey f**k but he was a very versatile player. Under Mick he was competiting with Killer for the left wing spot and then Duff but never was in with a shout. He's 32 now so unlikely to figure in Trappa's plans but if Duff is out for a long time he could be used as a stop gap.
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Posted By: McG
Date Posted: 30 Oct 2008 at 2:11pm
Not one to be looking at lads coming into the squad after such a long time out and at the tail end of their careers but JAYSUS i just seen his throw for Stoke's winner last night...
If i was Trap id be begging him to join up. Defo worth last 15-20mins if we are behind or in a difficult situ.
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Posted By: theworm2345
Date Posted: 30 Oct 2008 at 4:50pm
McGoldrick2284 wrote:
Not one to be looking at lads coming into the squad after such a long time out and at the tail end of their careers but JAYSUS i just seen his throw for Stoke's winner last night...
If i was Trap id be begging him to join up. Defo worth last 15-20mins if we are behind or in a difficult situ. |
Only one problem with that...
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Posted By: FREEWHEELER
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2008 at 4:27am
Pity they can't do what they do in American football, just bring him on for the throws, unbelievable trejectory and flatness he gets on the throws, don't mind better than a Hunt cross, it's better than a fookin Beckham cross!
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Posted By: Citizen
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2008 at 4:31am
ok its getting ridiculous now he must have 6 prem assists from those bionic arms already..he has to be in for poland ..even as an experiment
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Posted By: nedge
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2008 at 4:50am
Donal Cullen wrote:
I hate to say it but I was always a fan of Rory Delap's. He ... looks like a dopey f**k
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Haha!!
Good stuff DC!
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Posted By: erimus
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2008 at 5:22am
As Ive said before on this. Are we going to try win throws instead of trying to score?
His all round play is terrible.Wasnt good enough in his "prime" and thoroughly does not deserve an international call up
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Posted By: Tash Kent
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2008 at 5:48am
That throw for the goal this week was unbelievably accurate and had as much pace on the ball as a normal cross would have had, said it before think a place in the squad and be on the bench if needed is a good option.
Could also be good for a place in one of those stupid fantastic four type films how the fcuk can he do that.
Agree that his throw would be as good as a cross from Beckham, would say the brain would be similar as well.
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Posted By: t_rAndy
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2008 at 7:50am
i think he deserves his chance. Has everyone talking in the prem. We haven't got many others doing that at the moment. Also he has played at RB before. Could be an option to play there when Finnan is out.
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Posted By: Bondvillain
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2008 at 8:26am
I thought he was going to be named in the B squad for the Forest game to be honest.
He's no world beater, but similar to Niall Quinn against Spain (and others) , his very presence would be enough to have the opposition panicking were he to be introduced, forcing them to hastily change their tactics on the spot, and hopefully make mistakes. I wouldn't mind having him in the squad for that "will they / wont they introduce him" factor alone.
I remember John Aldridge naming a very Injured (toe?) Dave Challinor on the bench for Tranmere in a game one season, "just in case" his big 'grape ape' arms were required in the last minutes of a game.
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Posted By: erimus
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2008 at 8:30am
Whats Mark Kennedy at these days?
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Posted By: Justice Shark
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2008 at 8:38am
Cardiff City since July and currently injured
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Posted By: Gaz
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2008 at 9:13am
i think delap defo deserves a chance..havent seen much of him at stoke (bar the long throw in's) but he's playing EPL week in week out and creating a lot of goals..defo an option 2 bring on with 10-15 mins to go if we're in need of a goal
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Posted By: theworm2345
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2008 at 9:25am
erimus wrote:
Whats Mark Kennedy at these days? |
I always thought he was underrated and was calling for his recall during the Kerr days. I have to believe he is past it now though, still has a hell of a left boot I'm sure though
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Posted By: FREEWHEELER
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2008 at 9:30am
Kennedy........, superb left foot but absolute total enigma. The sort of player that drives Managers nuts, so much talent, so little substance.
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Posted By: Bob Hoskins
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2008 at 1:02pm
Trapp's his own man and the likes of Delap, Morrisson and Carsley are not going to get a look in..whwther you agree/papers or FAI or not..persoanlly bringing in a player because of a good throw in is a back ward step..he was doing the same throws last year and we didn't hear anyone screaming for a Delap recall.
FACT. Delap has played more games in the premiership than, Gibson, Whelan, A Reid, McGeady and Santa combined
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Posted By: t_rAndy
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2008 at 1:20pm
Bob Hoskins wrote:
he was doing the same throws last year and we didn't hear anyone screaming for a Delap recall.
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Yes but these are Premiership quality defenders and goalkeepers who are failing to deal with them. If we are 1-0 against Bulgaria with 15 minutes to go and we have not had much luck breaking them down then why not try to use it. He can nearly throw it from the halfway line!
One thing though, Stoke probably practice it in training a few times a week. Trap wouldn't do that for a player who would be on the bench.
Would like to hear some noise coming from him in the next few weeks before the Poland game that he would be interested in a call up
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Posted By: t_rAndy
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2008 at 1:25pm
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Posted By: Bob Hoskins
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2008 at 1:40pm
If Trapp has to rely on winning throw ins to get us qualification he shouldn't be the manager
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Posted By: Bondvillain
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2008 at 2:00pm
Bob Hoskins wrote:
If Trapp has to rely on winning throw ins to get us qualification he shouldn't be the manager |
I don't think anyone's suggesting Trapattoni should disregard his tactics and just have an outright reliance on throw ins to
win a game. Most people are simply saying that Delap is a proposition that could potentially bring something to the squad, it's not as if there are suggestions of re-writing the team sheet by leaving out the likes of Duff or Keane to accommodate him.
Anyway, any team could play like Seria A champions and still be 1-0 down
because of a dodgy penalty decision...in which case chancing long
accurate throw ins in the last seconds might just be the correct course of action to bugger up a well
marshalled opposition defence.
Charlton had to rely on a Scottish Sub to reach Euro 88...Never rule
out luck, chance or a big flukey rub of the green in football.
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Posted By: Bob Hoskins
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2008 at 2:29pm
we'll just have to leave the final decision to the big dog
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Posted By: Bondvillain
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2008 at 2:45pm
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Posted By: McG
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2008 at 7:23am
When Keane loaned him to Stoke and he broke his leg he concentrated on throw ins from the floor etc.
Definitely an option as previously stated. Stick him on with Folan for a bombardment of their defence.
It's true we shouldnt rely on him but he is worthy of a place in the squad. He has prem defences bricking it when he lines one up and over half of Stokes goals have come from his throw ins
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Posted By: theworm2345
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2008 at 12:18pm
Did it again today
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Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2008 at 12:20pm
Trappa should really give him a run out agaisnt Poland
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Posted By: McG
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2008 at 1:34pm
Two goals from his throws today and he had Wenger fuming..
DELAP FOR IRELAND
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Posted By: billybob
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2008 at 1:58pm
Absolutely
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Posted By: Billy O'Toole
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2008 at 2:28pm
he should be in the squad regardless of throw ins as he is playing regulary week in week out in the Prem
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Posted By: brianie
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2008 at 4:23pm
Jim26 wrote:
Trappa should really give him a run out agaisnt Poland |
You mean a throw out Jim?
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Posted By: t_rAndy
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2008 at 7:10am
He has to be in. It's just too big of a weapon not to have at your desposal. Like they scored 2 yesterday but had another 4 or 5 chances from them. They are creating chances, nearly better than free kicks. Nobody knows how to deal with them.
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Posted By: Tuff Paddy
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2008 at 9:32am
Yeah but the smallest man in that Stoke team is 5'10" - which would be a giant in our team of midgets.
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Posted By: Bob Hoskins
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2008 at 9:56am
good point TP, Doyle is a decent header of the ball that's about it from midfield to forwards..No to Delap!!
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Posted By: McG
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2008 at 10:56am
Thats why Caleb Folan is in the squad! Few decent headers of the ball and for Delaps throws you can be sure the likes of Dunne, O'Shea, Kilbane will come up and challenge.
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Posted By: Bob Hoskins
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2008 at 11:00am
you don't bring up your defenders for throw ins though
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Posted By: McG
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2008 at 11:03am
Bob Hoskins wrote:
you don't bring up your defenders for throw ins though |
If in a losing position with 15 to go - yes you do
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Posted By: Bob Hoskins
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2008 at 11:04am
NO TOP DELAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted By: Honey Monster
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2008 at 11:05am
In fairness, the strongest argument Delap has for a recall is the fact that he plays prem football week in week out unlike a lot of the current squad. If he doesnt get a call up, it's very bad form
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Posted By: Bondvillain
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2008 at 11:11am
In a Crisis situation (which, all respect to Delap and his solid
premiership record this season, Is all I could imagine him being used
in) you'll generally find all sorts in the box, not just attackers.
With that in mind, 1-0 down, with a minute to go, it wouldnt be
irrational to imagine Doyle, Folan, Dunne, O Shea or a pair of Six
footers like Kilbane or Finnan in the mix, waiting for the long hoist from Delap,
causing confusion. They've done it in the past.
Imagine yourself in charge of naming a current fit 22 man squad
for a win or bust game tomorrow. Can you come up with 22 available
players who absolutely, unmistakeably, & without question, should be named ahead of Rory?
I get to about 17 or 18.
I dont think he's an automatic first team inclusion. I DO think he should be
considered for the squad on the basis of his current performances, his
previous Irish experience, and the fact that many in the squads from
years back had good time for him, and he had a reputation as being
easy-going and the right type of player to settle the mood.
Mick Martin's comments about him yesterday on the Today FM round up
about half
five disappointed me. He seemed to be saying that it's part of his job
to monitor players, and were Trap to ask his opinion on Delap, it'd be
a
thumbs down, simply because martin doesn't like his style of play. When
pushed by McMullen that there seems to be interest in some fan quarters
to at least bring Delap into the Friendly squad, Martin then further
compounded his ignorance by mumbling some bollocks about fans not
paying good money to watch 90 minutes of throw ins.
The
final insult was Martin Declaring that Delap was now "Too Old" to offer
Ireland anything, and we should be looking to the future. (Rory Delap will be only 33 when the World Cup Finals start. It should be noted that we haven't qualified for these finals yet.)
Has this organisation learned nothing from the last 3 years and the
bullcrap about "4 year plans"? Whatever happened to picking the best
available on the day?
It's all well and good Mick Martin hypothetically looking for 11 prospects for South
africa, but if they were to drudge out dull 0-0's or worse, get whacked 3 nowt in successive qualifiers while
experienced, mature (and most importantly in form)
Irish players are left out of a large squad to accommodate them, then
all the preparation is for nothing. Play for the day and the future can
be sorted out later. It's not as if the FAI are renowned for their
forward thinking elsewhere, so why are they pretending it matters here?
Delap for the squad nod, It would send out the message to a grumbling section of younger (although not necessarily fitter, nor able to get a game at their clubs) team members that success is rewarded. What's the worst that could happen?
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Posted By: Bondvillain
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2008 at 11:15am
Bob Hoskins wrote:
NO TOP DELAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Is that a comment or an expression of a bizarre shirtless sexual fantasy?
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Posted By: McG
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2008 at 11:19am
Bondvillain wrote:
Bob Hoskins wrote:
NO TOP DELAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Is that a comment or an expression of a bizarre shirtless sexual fantasy?
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Posted By: Bob Hoskins
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2008 at 1:15pm
Bondvillain wrote:
Bob Hoskins wrote:
NO TOP DELAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Is that a comment or an expression of a bizarre shirtless sexual fantasy?
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The latter
In fairness lads if it was a choice between Delap and Miller I'd go with my shirtless idol. But I'd much rather people ranting on about McCarthy, John Joe O'Toole and Owen Garvan for a midfield place..
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Posted By: Honey Monster
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2008 at 1:26pm
With all due respect to McCarthy, he's 17. Still too young IMO but that's another topic altogether
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Posted By: Gaz
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2008 at 2:41pm
Delap should defo be givin a chance against poland..just to see how he fairs..thats the whole point of friendlies
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Posted By: FREEWHEELER
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2008 at 3:15pm
Does Delap do anything else other than throw in (albeit brilliantly) and foul? You need more than that at international level and Stoke look to be another Bolton under Sam Allardyce. That and the fact that Almunia is a sh*te keeper and neither Touré or My Brother Sylvest seemed to want to attack the ball and fookin head it........I'd say Rory needs to show he can actually "play" a bit. But his throws are fookin amazing!
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Posted By: McG
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2008 at 3:23pm
Yeah was watching highlights and seen he chopped down Sagna and maybe Walcott also??
Well if that's the case we should deploy him to do a job on Berba and Pirlo etc..
Ah in fairness FW the lad can play. He wouldnt be around this long if he couldnt. Southampton broke the bank to sign him and he has come back from a bad injury at Stoke to be a regular and lets face it, it's not often we have an Irish international all over the papers for football matters.
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Posted By: FREEWHEELER
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2008 at 3:36pm
I have watched closely over the years as well though McG and he never convinced me at all, he seemed to be versatile but pretty ordinary at best. If it weren't for the throw-ins, there'd be no call for his inclusion.
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Posted By: Tuff Paddy
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2008 at 3:49pm
Delap now would have been a huge asset for us circa 1990 onwards when we had big gangly centreforwards and the whole game plan was to lamp the ball into the box. Right now we have midgets who get outjumped for everything.
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Posted By: Bondvillain
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2008 at 4:41pm
In an Ideal world, where Ireland's 'Plan A' was so brilliant and
successful and foolproof that we didn't need a 'Plan B', I'd say fair
enough. There is no need to even consider Delap's inclusion.
However, our plan A is very shaky indeed. We aren't overly adventurous,
and have consistently looked like conceding in the final tired minutes in our last
couple of games. I defy anyone here to say where the winning Irish goal would
have come from, were Cyprus to have taken their best chance and
equalised in the last five minutes back in October.
Were that to have happened, I think our counter-punch would have been
exposed as non-existent, and the resulting cry for Delap (as well as A
Reid, and anyone else not currently playing for us) to be included in
the aftermath of another poor draw would have reached deafening proportions in the press.
Additionally, Our midfield is inexperienced, lacks imagination, and
many of those 'coming through' to fill the vacant squad slots have
clearly not come through far enough yet. While Delap's inclusion in the
squad would certainly not be a long term solution to this problem, it
would show that Trap is exercising his options, and perhaps some folks
would up their games considerably.
Also, I think it goes without saying that our set pieces in the last 3 or 4 games have been utter sh*te
Delap brings experience to the squad, as well as a unique set-piece
ability that could be utilised in training to see if it worked for us. (While
the midget Keane will no doubt be still flapping his arms llike a
demented hummingbird at the ref instead of jumping for the ball no
matter how the ball is delivered in a set-piece situation, some
of the taller squad members mentioned above could verify if the tactic
could work for us competitively. We don't know yet, as it hasn't been
tried.)
As I've stated earlier. I certainly don't think Delap deserves an immediate starting
berth, but in a squad of 22, he deserves to be named on the merit of his current form & experience, ahead of 4 or 5
players who WILL be named on some potential they may show in two years if & when they reach their club's first XI.
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Posted By: t_rAndy
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2008 at 5:43am
Saying now he doesn't expect a recall cause he's getting on a bit and there is a young squad. But never say never. He's up for it anyway
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Posted By: Tash Kent
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2008 at 6:19am
Yeah just saw that myself trandy really think he like others should get his chance in the Poland game, sure he would be up for a game and he knows it’s a final opportunity, agree with BV he should be in the squad on current form ahead of some others, what is L Miller doing in the squad for starters not good enough and when was the last time he played for his club.
Can think of a few who had short international careers but with a big impact Toto Schillaci types, if we get goals from throw ins from Delap think we would be talking about that in years to come not how average he was as a defender.
Competition for places in the squad has got to be a good thing to make everybody want to be improve to get in there in the first place, hope Trap is going to use a good few subs in the Poland game and give others a chance.
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Posted By: billybob
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2008 at 7:26am
Surely anyone with half a tactical brain would include Delap as "an option" just for his throw ins alone but as mentioned here already, he's playing regular premiership football ahead of others that are not so he should be IN!!!
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Posted By: Bob Hoskins
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2008 at 7:38am
Tash Kent wrote:
Competition for places in the squad has got to be a good thing to make everybody want to be improve to get in there in the first place, hope Trap is going to use a good few subs in the Poland game and give others a chance. |
true: if he brings in Delap then good luck to him
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Posted By: t_rAndy
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2008 at 8:24am
and I don't think he is a bad player either. He has a physical presence too. Would nearly have been better in central mid against Cyprus than the other two
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Posted By: t_rAndy
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2008 at 11:14am
No point calling Delap up now. Lee Dixen has given a little demonstration on how to deal with them
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/7705772.stm - http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/7705772.stm
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Posted By: Citizen
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2008 at 11:24am
8 prem assists...if he got an assist against italy or bulgaria be worth it alone...bring back delap...he has to be called up!!
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Posted By: McG
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2008 at 11:32am
citizenerased wrote:
8 prem assists...if he got an assist against italy or bulgaria be worth it alone...bring back delap...he has to be called up!! |
Precisely Citizen..
I doubt Trap will come a knocking though but fingers crossed. Offers something very little teams have at their disposal
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Posted By: The Count
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2008 at 11:33am
t_rAndy wrote:
No point calling Delap up now. Lee Dixen has given a little demonstration on how to deal with them
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/7705772.stm - http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/7705772.stm |
Tactical genius Dixon , what a dope!
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Posted By: Tuff Paddy
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2008 at 11:35am
If Dixon was as good as he thinks he is he'd be getting UEFA badges and getting into management.
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Posted By: Bob Hoskins
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2008 at 11:45am
I wouldn't give Dixon a scouts badge
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Posted By: Christonabike
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2008 at 3:17pm
DOes Bond Villan write for a newspaper?
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Posted By: t_rAndy
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2008 at 3:17pm
The Count wrote:
t_rAndy wrote:
No point calling Delap up now. Lee Dixen has given a little demonstration on how to deal with them
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/7705772.stm - http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/7705772.stm |
Tactical genius Dixon , what a dope!
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If the teams done that then they would just stand at the edge of the box and try work it in
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Posted By: Bondvillain
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2008 at 7:11am
Christonabike wrote:
DOes Bond Villan write for a newspaper?
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No he does not, but thanks anyway.
(I've had a sh*t day so far, so Im choosing to take that as a compliment. )
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Posted By: McG
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2008 at 8:26am
Bosses at Athletics Ireland looking to sign him up for the 2012 olympics as a javelin thrower...
Mary Coghlan CEO of Athletics Ireland "We'll arrange a meeting with him and hopefully he'll come on board. We have no Javelin throwers competing at the moment and we would welcome him with open arms"
FFS..
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Posted By: gouldinho
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2008 at 9:17am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=742KZspdgr0 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=742KZspdgr0
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Posted By: packiesglove
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2008 at 11:58am
was listening to a pundit, proper one now not gray or hansen, who was saying that stoke have a team built for them throws, plenty of 6 foot plus players that can head a ball...............we don't......end of..........
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Posted By: Bondvillain
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2008 at 9:49am
Richard Dunne (6ft2) Steve Finnan (6ft) John O Shea (6ft3) Damien
Delaney (6ft3) Joey O Brien (6ft) Paul McShane (6ft) Darren O Dea
(6ft1) Kevin Kilbane (6ft) Darren Potter (6ft) Darren Gibson (6ft)
Keith Andrews (6ft) Andy Keogh (6ft) Daryl Murphy (6ft3) Caleb Folan
(6ft2) John Joe O Toole (6ft2) Owen Garvan (6ft)...Then you get into
the really tiny lads like the 5ft11 Glen Whelan, and the 5ft11 and a bit Kevin Doyle...
Yeah, sure we've no access to anything but midgets who've never headed a ball in their lives.
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Posted By: erimus
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2008 at 9:52am
Rite so what we will do from now on so.
85th minute.1 nil down to Italy.Lets try and a win a throw.
Then if we get one, we will magically replace our small players with all these 6 foot+ players and see if we can scrap a goal.
As much as I hate Traps tactics, Id hate to see any of ye Delap advocates managing this team
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ROLL ON 2016
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Posted By: greenarmy
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2008 at 9:52am
Bring back the Doc and all 6ft 2 of him
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Posted By: t_rAndy
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2008 at 9:52am
I think this debate is over. Delap hasn't worked with Trap so far so he won't get a look in for the rest of this campaign no matter how well he does for his club.
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Posted By: The Rovers
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2008 at 10:00am
Delap plays regular first team football for his club, at the highest level and has had a good season, so its unlikely trap is gonna pick him.
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Posted By: greenarmy
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2008 at 10:02am
The Rovers wrote:
Delap plays regular first team football for his club, at the highest level and has had a good season, so its unlikely trap is gonna pick him.
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True
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Posted By: Citizen
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2008 at 10:11am
the beauty of delap as well is that teams consiously try not to give throw ins away, that in itself leads to general mayhem especailly with our wide players like McGeady and Duff who play right on the byline.
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Posted By: Christonabike
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2008 at 10:47am
citizenerased wrote:
the beauty of delap as well is that teams consiously try not to give throw ins away, that in itself leads to general mayhem especailly with our wide players like McGeady and Duff who play right on the byline. |
Exactly. The meltdown of the supposedly disciplined Arsenal against Stoke is a prime example.
No one is suggesting that the Irish team should be built around Delap. What the majority of people seem to be saying is that His profile has risen this season, he's scored goals, his form is good, and he's a match winner for his club. He may never take to the pitch again in a green shirt, but the reward of a squad call up for being the only Irish player to feature on the back pages in a good way for several consecutive weeks should have been forthcoming.
Many are wondering what exactly is it that you have to do for a squad call up nowadays, bar building a time machine and fecking off to the Portuguese training camp.
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Posted By: erimus
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2008 at 10:49am
Delete this topic.It f**king ridiculous
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ROLL ON 2016
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Posted By: Citizen
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2008 at 11:18am
erimus wrote:
Delete this topic.It f**king ridiculous |
Thatss coming from the author of 'The Seagull of the Day' thread..
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Posted By: t_rAndy
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2008 at 11:20am
Many are wondering what exactly is it that you have to do for a squad call up nowadays, bar building a time machine and fecking off to the Portuguese training camp. [/QUOTE]
Exactly
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Posted By: Christonabike
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2008 at 12:33pm
erimus wrote:
Delete this topic.It f**king ridiculous |
Hmm... Sees Disagreement with his point of view , then has a big sweary sulk...Are you Gouldinho in disguise?
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Posted By: gouldinho
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2008 at 12:36pm
oi i may be sweary and sulky but in no way am i big
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Posted By: Christonabike
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2008 at 12:37pm
Fair enough. Gouldinho is cleared of the charge of being Erimus.
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Posted By: Tash Kent
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2008 at 1:38pm
Really think Delap was worth a look at but fairly sure now we won’t see him again in an Ireland shirt, think his presence alone in our squad would have made Bulgaria and Italy think about how to defend against those throws and disrupt their preparation if not totally changed the way they would have been forced to defend, Charlton definitely would have used the psychology of his presence to fook up their preparation.
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Posted By: McG
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2008 at 3:59pm
Tash Kent wrote:
Really think Delap was worth a look at but fairly sure now we won’t see him again in an Ireland shirt, think his presence alone in our squad would have made Bulgaria and Italy think about how to defend against those throws and disrupt their preparation if not totally changed the way they would have been forced to defend, Charlton definitely would have used the psychology of his presence to fook up their preparation. |
Very good point Tash.
The sheer sight of him warming up by pumping his guns would have them trembling. Ah but in all seriousness he should be in there on merit. Week in/week out prem footballer.
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Posted By: AntrimMan
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2008 at 5:11pm
McGoldrick2284 wrote:
Tash Kent wrote:
Really think Delap was worth a look at but fairly sure now we won’t see him again in an Ireland shirt, think his presence alone in our squad would have made Bulgaria and Italy think about how to defend against those throws and disrupt their preparation if not totally changed the way they would have been forced to defend, Charlton definitely would have used the psychology of his presence to fook up their preparation. |
Very good point Tash.
The sheer sight of him warming up by pumping his guns would have them trembling. Ah but in all seriousness he should be in there on merit. Week in/week out prem footballer. |
Ah, just like Glen Whlean, Shane Long and Darren Gibso.....Wait a minute!
Seriously, not thrilled that Delap is left out, along with Reid. Ar*ehole he may be, but Stephen Ireland is another premiership regular who has to be brought back.
We just don't have the depth of talent pool to be leaving premiership footballers out of the squad.
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Posted By: nedge
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2008 at 4:16am
Jesus, I've read a number of posts about bringing Stephen Ireland back to the Irish team.
Do people not realise that HE has made the decision to turn his back on the Ireland setup and there's NOTHING the management can do about it until he changes his mind!
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Posted By: RogerMilla
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2008 at 4:41am
nedge wrote:
Jesus, I've read a number of posts about bringing Stephen Ireland back to the Irish team.
Do people not realise that HE has made the decision to turn his back on the Ireland setup and there's NOTHING the management can do about it until he changes his mind!
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you might as well be talking to the wall nedge !
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Posted By: nedge
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2008 at 5:30am
RogerMilla wrote:
nedge wrote:
Jesus, I've read a number of posts about bringing Stephen Ireland back to the Irish team. Do people not realise that HE has made the decision to turn his back on the Ireland setup and there's NOTHING the management can do about it until he changes his mind! |
you might as well be talking to the wall nedge !
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I think you're right Milla, but we should definitely try and bring back Gerry Peyton...
Actually that gives me an idea
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Posted By: Bondvillain
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2008 at 5:39am
Jaysus lads, be careful interfering in Team selections. If I recall correctly, there was an international incident last time a fan and a manager clashed over squad inclusions.
I don't remember the exact details, but apparently Jack Charlton wanted to Recall Eamon Dunphy and John Giles in to bolster his midfield, and an unnamed fan from Dublin was so outraged by this decision, that he launched an outrageous physical attack on the Lanky world cup winner, culminating in a headbutt which incapacitated both parties.
You must remember the incident. Christy Moore wrote a ballad about it.
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Posted By: t_rAndy
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2008 at 6:10am
I believe Delap should have been there on merit also but I think we must accept that he won't be back in an Irish shirt. I also think because we don't have huge players from midfield to fowards we would not be able to utilise it as well as Stoke have. But I still think he deserved to be in the squad along with Andy Reid, Noel Hunt, Owen Garvan, Joey O'Brien and possibly Keith Fahey in place of Gibson, Miller, Bruce, Long and Stokes. I know Delap, Reid, hunt, Garvan, O'Brien and Fahey are not in the same league as Keane, Dunne and Given, but Reid has never let his country down and the others are all having good seasons and playing football. This is a friendly so this was the perfect time to give them a game when they are playing well for their clubs
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Posted By: RogerMilla
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2008 at 6:26am
Bondvillain wrote:
apparently Jack Charlton wanted to Recall Eamon Dunphy and John Giles in to bolster his midfield, and an unnamed fan from Dublin was so outraged by this decision, that he launched an outrageous physical attack on the Lanky world cup winner, culminating in a headbutt which incapacitated both parties.
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neither suffered any lasting damage though BV and while the dublin fan woke up disorientated and a long way from home, the world cup winner went on to great things as an international manager. This shows the value of debate.
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Posted By: Tuff Paddy
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2008 at 6:58am
I can't wait til we qualify and poor Stevie has to come out and do a mea culpa.
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Posted By: Christonabike
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2008 at 7:20am
RogerMilla wrote:
Bondvillain wrote:
apparently Jack Charlton wanted to Recall Eamon Dunphy and John Giles in to bolster his midfield, and an unnamed fan from Dublin was so outraged by this decision, that he launched an outrageous physical attack on the Lanky world cup winner, culminating in a headbutt which incapacitated both parties.
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neither suffered any lasting damage though BV and while the dublin fan woke up disorientated and a long way from home, the world cup winner went on to great things as an international manager. This shows the value of debate.
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Or the value of a well timed headbutt.
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Posted By: FREEWHEELER
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2008 at 7:53am
Good article by Giles in today's Herald...........Trap's success and experience allows him to pick whoever he wants at the end of the day, even if we disagree strongly with it. Giles also hits out at the coaching badge era and Big Sam and that ilk.......probably up on Herald website if yiz look for it.
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