Annual YBIG Dinner and Awards?
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Topic: Annual YBIG Dinner and Awards?
Posted By: greenforever
Subject: Annual YBIG Dinner and Awards?
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2011 at 7:15pm
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What do people think of a proper Ybig sit down awards night at the end of the season in somewhere like the Burlo? Inviting the full first team squad and representatives from the underage teams and ladies etc. We could make a proper presentation to our player of the year and legends such as McGrath. Not a black tie affair could be done for around €50 @ head i reckon. ------------- I know nothing :-) |
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Posted By: The GerK
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2011 at 7:26pm
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Muted a similar idea in the Rise and rise of YBIG thread Have been thinking about a YBIG dinner as a send off to the players. Few hundred with players and sponsors etc Would be a quality night |
Posted By: Trapped
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2011 at 7:32pm
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Would be a good idea alright, and another way to publicise the SS etc. When you say end of season, what month you talking about?
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Posted By: The GerK
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2011 at 7:35pm
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As GF said end of season and not long before they meet for training for the euros. Maybe even try get it one of the first nights they meet in Dublin. I would see it as a send off to the players from the fans Players would probably just hang on for dinner and then fuk off. Dinner, awards, speeches, live music, residents bar
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Posted By: Max Power
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2011 at 7:36pm
Would be a cracking night and a great way to celebrate the qualification with the players and fans mixing. JD might even sort out a free bar for a few hours  ------------- Co-Founder of The Paul McShane Fan Club, Portmarnock Branch |
Posted By: Trapped
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2011 at 7:42pm
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Yea excellent idea, might give the players that extra bit of inspiration before they get into the campaign. Plenty of time to organise it too. TJ says the players won't be drinking  ------------- 67% points to games ratio at the last Euro's (better than Portugal's) |
Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2011 at 7:45pm
 Sure ive always said the players drank heavily during irish duty. Ive always apoken out against it. ------------- Pied Piper to: Baldrick, Brendan 88, 9Fingers, Borussia and more... 97.6% chance this post will be replied to by Baldrick (source: PWC) |
trapped wrote:Posted By: Trapped
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2011 at 7:50pm
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Just winding you up, calm down son
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Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2011 at 8:14pm
Absolutely!!! I am gutted i cant make the Christmas dinner, but with money and whatnot its kind of unavoidable. But this definitely!!!! Wouldnt care if it was black tie or not! 
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Posted By: ShayGivensBum
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2011 at 9:18pm
After the 1st of June good lad Gerk
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Posted By: Sham157
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2011 at 9:13am
| Smashing idea, would be a quality night. |
Posted By: greenforever
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2011 at 10:09am
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Im sure they will have left Ireland by then Tournament starts 8th ------------- I know nothing :-) |
Posted By: Guf10
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2011 at 10:32am
Great Idea would be an excellent night but could be costly with a lot of us flying out a few days after it but im up for it and willing to help in the organising of it.------------- 2 in a row, 2 in a row, 2 in a row |
Posted By: Metal Paul
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2011 at 10:35am
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Posted By: 9fingers
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2011 at 10:49am
| Great idea, count me in but defo be more than 50 a head IMO |
Posted By: rolo
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2011 at 11:53am
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Our college ball is in the burlington in february and its 50 euro a head. Great idea Ger, hope this is a runner. ------------- "I'm off to see the Queen tomorrow too, don't forget that" |
Posted By: Baldrick
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2011 at 11:57am
| great idea by gerk and Gf. I would be on for that. |
Posted By: Steve Amsterdam
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2011 at 12:17pm
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Deffo up for this lads, great idea. I'd fly in for that! ------------- Molly Malone's pub- The home of YBIG in Amsterdam! |
Posted By: Beareleven
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2011 at 12:45pm
| Great Idea. I could wear my John Delaney Tie |
Posted By: Saint Tom
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2011 at 12:51pm
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Posted By: greenforever
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2011 at 1:16pm
Sorry this event would strictly be Irish based supporters - sorry Steve and no bears allowed, tie or no tie 
Seriously could be a fantastic annual event and really help build the prifile of the SS or 114 or Lansdowne End as has being suggested for new names.
I would reckon 3 as main sponsors should be offered the chance to buy up to 10 tables of 12, and all the other sponsors up to 2 tables of 12.
The FAI should be offered the chance to buy approx 5 tables.
There should also be IMO a big effort to attract new people to join us in expanding the SS to eventually include the whole Lansdowne End.
Somewhere like the Burlo can accomodate 1,000 people very comfortably and that should be the target, and even if we only got 400 it would still be a massive night.
3 Could be approached to sponsor the cost of the trophies presented.
Tony O Donohoe would IMO be an ideal presenter for the night given he would be well known among fans.
I cant see Delaney if Trap gave the goahead having a problem with paying for the FAI tables likewise I'm sure 3 would be more than happy to pay for thier own tables etc, thus keeping the cost way down, and making it as affordable as possible for the fans. ------------- I know nothing :-) |
Posted By: Steve Amsterdam
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2011 at 1:27pm
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I thought the awards given would be for YBIG'ers?! ------------- Molly Malone's pub- The home of YBIG in Amsterdam! |
Posted By: Baldrick
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2011 at 1:41pm
| Yeah so did I. |
Posted By: greenforever
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2011 at 1:48pm
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taught the first post was clear enough, it would me awards to our player of the year, also a chance to honour legends such as McGrath Killer etc.
Off course there would be no problem with having awards for different posters, or for those who set up the going green campaign or other things as people saw fit
Dont see how the players would attend a function if there was no players awards ------------- I know nothing :-) |
Posted By: Saint Tom
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2011 at 1:53pm
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we could call the awards the AIDOs ------------- My destination inchicore my next stop being kilmainham Where patriots and super saints are the topics of conversation |
Posted By: The GerK
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2011 at 2:02pm
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Awards for Ybiggres a no no, How boring would that be for those not on the site There would be no shortage of sponsors for this. Only stumbling block I can see is if the FAI want to to their own send off dinner or if the calendar becomes a bit hectic. Very unofficial talks on it that I have had have been positive
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Posted By: Steve Amsterdam
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2011 at 2:04pm
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Just messing GF, have a feeling Robbie and all the lads won't be too interested in the Thread of the Year, newcomer of the year, and Gimp of the year award. And fan awards for players are common enough in many countries,and players always appreciate it very much. All we need is a good name for 'em! Maybe we can call them the Johnnies....in honour of JD ------------- Molly Malone's pub- The home of YBIG in Amsterdam! |
Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2011 at 2:06pm
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There are hindreds of members of ybig. Who would decide who would gwt invited etc.. Not enough room for everyone. ------------- Pied Piper to: Baldrick, Brendan 88, 9Fingers, Borussia and more... 97.6% chance this post will be replied to by Baldrick (source: PWC) |
Posted By: Saint Tom
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2011 at 2:09pm
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the fact you have to pay for it would be the reason why there would only be a few hundred at it from here ------------- My destination inchicore my next stop being kilmainham Where patriots and super saints are the topics of conversation |
Posted By: BigStrongMan
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2011 at 2:53pm
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The Aidos ------------- PM me for all forum moderation queries. |
Posted By: BigPodge
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2011 at 2:54pm
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Great idea lads We could try have one player at each table as well, would be deadly craic!! ------------- 
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Posted By: The GerK
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2011 at 2:55pm
88 team over and the current team. Should be enough for wan at each table You are down to be with Paul Green
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Posted By: BigPodge
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2011 at 2:59pm
I'm baggin Sledge now, unlucky f**ky -------------
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Posted By: Guf10
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2011 at 3:10pm
I could sit at Ian Hartes table, we could talk about missing penalties ------------- 2 in a row, 2 in a row, 2 in a row |
Posted By: BigPodge
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2011 at 3:23pm
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Posted By: captkeen
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2011 at 3:24pm
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This is a great idea. Would come over from bristol for this.an idea might be to have a raffle on the night,proceeds to a local sports charity. ------------- Live Long and Prosper. |
Posted By: Mafi Mushkila
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2011 at 3:28pm
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Lads this is a fantastic idea Would be great to do it before the lads head off to the Euros.
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Posted By: Roll_It_There
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2011 at 3:33pm
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Great idea
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Posted By: Midlands
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2011 at 3:47pm
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Fair play Gerk, great idea and would be a great send off! Really hope it can happen. Would love to be there ------------- The Irishmans left foot is so cultured it could paint the Mona Lisa while enjoying a half time orange |
Posted By: ShamtheRam
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2011 at 4:02pm
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Great idea but slim chance of it happening i'd say. ------------- YBIG NPF founder and CEO |
Posted By: Metal Paul
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2011 at 4:06pm
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Posted By: SuperDave84
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2011 at 4:29pm
Night after the final home friendly? |
Posted By: The GerK
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2011 at 4:35pm
If it suited it would be perfect Sham...have been thinking about this for a while now and while there are many hurdles, I can defo see this happen
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Posted By: Midlands
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2011 at 5:04pm
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Gerk for Ybigger of the Year 2012 if you can pull this off. Not sure how, but would be more than willing to help any way I could with organising something like this. ------------- The Irishmans left foot is so cultured it could paint the Mona Lisa while enjoying a half time orange |
Posted By: AndyMc
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2011 at 5:25pm
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Will it just be those of us that are in the cushy clique with the mods yeh ? ------------- Simon: No-one brings a bag of sh*t to a pub Jay: Your dad does Simon: Does he? Jay: Yeah, your mum |
Posted By: The Count
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2011 at 5:49pm
Bout time son, been talking about it for long enough now . Will be a quality night ------------- 
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Posted By: keitho5
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2011 at 5:58pm
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This would be quality hope it gets the go ahead! ------------- Oooooooooohhhhhh yes sir...... |
Posted By: bhob
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2011 at 6:12pm
| Great idea to do something like this, think it has massive potential |
Posted By: The GerK
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2011 at 6:23pm
Didn't want to jinx it before we qualified to absolute thick
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Posted By: Citizen
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2011 at 8:03pm
+1, great idea but i cannot see the players being up for it tbh. ------------- My Views are my own and do not in any way represent this site. 'The FAI are the dysfunctional body that other dysfunctional bodies call Galacticos' - Declan Lynch (Sunday Indo) |
Posted By: greenforever
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2011 at 9:25pm
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Dont see the players having an issue with it, as they all were fans when kids, I think they'd actually enjoy the banter.
The hardest bit might be getting Traps approval but time will tell.
FAI may want to limit numbers of fans / tables if it gets the go ahead.
It would be very easy to organise, once the FAI were prepared to bring the players along, it would be a matter of arranging a MC for the night, and enteratinement afterwards. The venue would do all the donkey work and tickets would be very easy to sell.
Id be suggesting maybe allocate 50% of available tables to posters on the site, 25% to ST holders and 25% to others so as to bring more people into the whole YBig SS idea.
Inviting the team of 88 would be class, and they may well be happy to sit at seperate tables with the fans. ------------- I know nothing :-) |
Posted By: Sono
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2011 at 9:32pm
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GF I reckon you have your usual tickets boxed off for this one, we couldn't see u wanting for tickets Fairest way to do it would be just a draw and every poster is entitled to claim 2 tickets per name, I would imagine the interest in the site would go through the roof if word got out that this night was happening. If the lads can pull this off it would be some coup, would hopefully be home for it and would really look forward to something like this. |
Posted By: greenforever
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2011 at 9:53pm
Well if its my proposal as per the thread, id say id be entitled to one, dont you 
IIRC the ballroom in the Burlo can hold up to 3,000.
Price will stop a lot of people going anyway. ------------- I know nothing :-) |
Posted By: Landon Donovan
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2011 at 3:05am
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But yourselves in the players shoes. It will be a night of having to be nice to a load of drunken football fans who want the shirt off your back and pretending to be your best mate whilst having to get into a load of pictures and sign autographs. Sounds like a pain in the arse to me. ------------- Irish Times Fantasy 6 Nations League Name: YBIG League Password: YBIG |
Posted By: BigStrongMan
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2011 at 3:20am
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Kinda agree LD,players nighmare I'd say I've seen them in the players lounge a few times and they can get a but tetchy in there Some even stay in the roped Off areas while there to avoid the punters ------------- PM me for all forum moderation queries. |
Posted By: BigStrongMan
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2011 at 4:59am
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@GF-are you serious?you may have started this poll/thread but to say it's your proposal is The Gerk mentioned this in another thread DAYS ago and has been talking about this,off forum,for months! Your a gas man! ------------- PM me for all forum moderation queries. |
Posted By: Bob Hoskins
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2011 at 5:30am
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This has zero appeal for me but most fans will be well up for it. I doubt the players will be up for it throw in Trap's dislike of them boozeing and the timing just before they leave for Pokraine will give them a good excuse not to have it. The timing is key to it going ahead. If you can get a lot of the Euro 88 squad to come then that's half the job done ------------- Romario 2016: And the ticket mafia gets caught! Well, four years ago I had already told the government. |
Posted By: The GerK
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2011 at 5:37am
| Players would only stay for the meal, few speeches then fuk off |
Posted By: The Saint
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2011 at 5:57am
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could be a great night, I could see the players getting pissed off alright after a while and will have other things on their minds. If they stayed for the dinner as Ger says and then head off that's fair enough. Would be some session ------------- FAIlure Good shot, lovely ............ oh good jaysus |
Posted By: Newryrep
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2011 at 6:05am
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not wanting to put a dampner on this but travel, 2 tickets, hotel for the night , money for drink a few weeks before the euros in the perfect storm of qualifying for euros and the 2 most expensive away trips .
the mrs will be lucky to get an orange this year for Xmas ------------- 'Irish' Songs for an Irish team - no SPL EPL generic sh*te Richard Dunne - 6th Sept 11 - best marshalling of a defence in Moscow since General Zukov Russia V Germany 1941 |
Posted By: Citizen
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2011 at 6:29am
+1, they even corden themselves off in the players lounge . when this type of thing is done for clubs, players are contractually obliged to do it. I can't see them turning up on their own free will unless trap/fai makes them tbh. It is just the way the modern player is imo. ------------- My Views are my own and do not in any way represent this site. 'The FAI are the dysfunctional body that other dysfunctional bodies call Galacticos' - Declan Lynch (Sunday Indo) |
Posted By: Midlands
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2011 at 6:43am
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I think Bob Hoskins has a fair point about timing. It would be great for the fans for it to be a great send off for them. But can see after the tournament being maybe an easier time to get them. I'm presuming being optimistic here that there will be some sort of civic home coming for them just like Phoenix Park or OConnell St before. Maybe then might be a more relaxed time for them to do it. Personally though I'd love to give them a send off with this behind them. I can dream... ------------- The Irishmans left foot is so cultured it could paint the Mona Lisa while enjoying a half time orange |
Posted By: Pipkin
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2011 at 6:45am
Its not compulsory to attend..
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Posted By: rolo
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2011 at 6:59am
+1 The audacity to claim this as your idea just cos u started the thread on it...!!! ------------- "I'm off to see the Queen tomorrow too, don't forget that" |
Posted By: Newryrep
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2011 at 7:44am
and there was me thinking that it was and if i didnt attend I would lose my season ticket and posting rights here
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Posted By: The Count
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2011 at 8:23am
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Posted By: Vivakenbarlow
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2011 at 9:45am
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Get Chris cooper to organise it ------------- It took City 44 years to win the league and 10 months to lose it |
Posted By: Baldrick
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2011 at 10:48am
Jesus lads he was joking. Think GF gets taken far too seriously on here at times. |
Posted By: greenforever
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2011 at 10:52am
BSM you really have a problem.
Yes I started the thread and had not read GerK's previous post, and it is actually a slightly different proposal as in it would be a proper awards cermony as held by supporters clubs everywhere where the supporters get a chance to make a proper presentation to their player of the year etc. not just a piss up, though no doubt it would end up in that after the dinner.
As for what GerK is talking about off the forum am I meant to have a crystal ball and not dare have similar ideas and post them.
As regards distribution of tickets for such an even if it could be organised, my proposal of making the tickets as widely available as possible would Im sure get the approval of your buddy as he was more than happy to pass on the details of non Ybig contributors to the Late Late. Tables should also be made available to any supporters clubs out there, such as the london one.
We are all meant to be supporting the one team with the one goal and an even like this couldbe great in bringing more and more supporters closer together resulting in further improving the athmosphere in Lansdowne Road.
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Posted By: Pipkin
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2011 at 10:53am
Especially considering he is an SLO. Lighten up a bit
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Posted By: greenforever
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2011 at 11:11am
WTF is an SLO??? No doubt very complimentary coming from a young fella who likes a little ZZZZZZZZZZZZ in coppers  ------------- I know nothing :-) |
Posted By: Baldrick
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2011 at 11:15am
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Supporters Liason Officer. Rolo and Aido were elected to this job. |
Posted By: Saint Tom
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2011 at 11:30am
with 99% of the vote i believe ------------- My destination inchicore my next stop being kilmainham Where patriots and super saints are the topics of conversation |
Posted By: BigStrongMan
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2011 at 1:22pm
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GFs foot soldiers always make me laugh!!! ------------- PM me for all forum moderation queries. |
Posted By: Baldrick
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2011 at 1:28pm
Its a well paid job BSM and pays for the trips |
Posted By: BigStrongMan
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2011 at 1:29pm
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I hear ye bigdog ------------- PM me for all forum moderation queries. |
Posted By: greenforever
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2011 at 1:41pm
Ah I taught they were FLO, then they better not claim to repesent me cause I'm a fan not a supporter
Didnt realise they were elected, taught they were roped into it  ------------- I know nothing :-) |
Posted By: Baldrick
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2011 at 1:45pm
| Saint Tom Christened them SLO suits them better I think. |
Posted By: greenforever
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2011 at 1:55pm
Is that Davey Keoghs lost son ------------- I know nothing :-) |
Posted By: Citizen
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2011 at 7:01pm
I think Super-Fans fall under their remit too Seriously though is there a hope in hell of this happening? ------------- My Views are my own and do not in any way represent this site. 'The FAI are the dysfunctional body that other dysfunctional bodies call Galacticos' - Declan Lynch (Sunday Indo) |
Posted By: The GerK
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2011 at 6:07am
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Two stumbling blocks - The FAI might want to promote their own dinner at that time and will Trap let the players attend There would be no problem doing our own thing withl the 88 players though |
Posted By: Bob Hoskins
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2011 at 6:25am
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I reckon the Euro 88 squad will be defo up for it. I emailed Tony Galvin a link to the last issue this morning, I also asked him IF there was a dinner for the 88 squad would he attend and also when was the last time the squad met up. ------------- Romario 2016: And the ticket mafia gets caught! Well, four years ago I had already told the government. |
Posted By: AndyMc
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2011 at 1:27pm
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Got the menu Gerk, cheers I'm gonna go with the Veg Soup, The Beef, and the cheesecake Looking forward to this now ------------- Simon: No-one brings a bag of sh*t to a pub Jay: Your dad does Simon: Does he? Jay: Yeah, your mum |
Posted By: greenforever
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2011 at 1:29pm
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Hopefully will go ahead and could be a great fundraiser for the YBIG charities... ------------- I know nothing :-) |
Posted By: Eamon Numpty
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2011 at 1:31pm
I will have the prawn cocktail, the chicken and mushroom volavent and lots of humble pie after the euros bill. ------------- ''If you have passion, if you have conviction, if you believe the lies that you're writing , then you stand to make a great deal of money. Its a beautiful game. Thats why I love writing for the Star." |
Posted By: Baldrick
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2011 at 7:12pm
| Would be better Craic with 88 squad as they could let their hair down more than the current squad. Would Brady be suspended from thee squad :) |
Posted By: BigStrongMan
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2011 at 12:59am
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Can we change the cheesecake for profiter rolls? Should be a great night,can someone post the full menu up here for those that wernt invited to see ------------- PM me for all forum moderation queries. |
Posted By: reddladd
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2011 at 5:08am
Would there be a lot of hair to let down??? 88 Squad would be a great night much better than the current squad. Highlights of the 88 tournament games, Joxer goes to Stuttgart soundtrack. Guest of honour could be Gary MacKay! ------------- I could agree with you but then we'd both be wrong. |
Posted By: Citizen
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2011 at 5:21am
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the current squad would go be cordened off in a VIP area, god forbid someone might try and talk to them!
88 / 90 squad all the way. ------------- My Views are my own and do not in any way represent this site. 'The FAI are the dysfunctional body that other dysfunctional bodies call Galacticos' - Declan Lynch (Sunday Indo) |
Posted By: seanyshuffler
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2015 at 9:23am
| Did this ever go ahead? |
Posted By: Bob Hoskins
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2015 at 2:26pm
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Yeah, was a great night. ------------- Romario 2016: And the ticket mafia gets caught! Well, four years ago I had already told the government. |
Posted By: McG
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2015 at 5:48pm
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Brilliant night. ------------- YBIG Table Quiz winner 2016 & 2017 AS YOU WERE McGx |
Posted By: heighway2heaven
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2015 at 5:53pm
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Will live long in the memory. ------------- http://giant.gfycat.com/LimpLittleArabianoryx.gif |
Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2015 at 6:04pm
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Arnold Schwarzenegger was at it in Total Recall ------------- Pied Piper to: Baldrick, Brendan 88, 9Fingers, Borussia and more... 97.6% chance this post will be replied to by Baldrick (source: PWC) |
Posted By: heighway2heaven
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2015 at 6:13pm
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Remember when he removed his head and threw it to Maurice Setters and it exploded? Fun times. ------------- http://giant.gfycat.com/LimpLittleArabianoryx.gif |