New FIFA rankings
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Topic: New FIFA rankings
Posted By: dunloybhoy
Subject: New FIFA rankings
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2011 at 7:04am
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Holland have lost ground on Spain in the FIFA world rankings following a 3-2 defeat to Sweden in a Euro 2012 qualifier earlier this month. The Dutch still occupy second place behind Spain, who recorded a 23rd consecutive home victory, beating Scotland in their final qualifying match. But Bert van Marwijk's side suffered the biggest points drop of any nation in the rankings - losing 146. The biggest gain was made by Wales, who ended their Euro 2012 qualifiers on a high with victories over Switzerland and Bulgaria. Gary Speed's team earned 245 points, enough to move them up 45 places to 45th. England moved up one place to seventh, while Greece nudged up three places to sit in eighth after booking their qualification for the Euro 2012 finals in Poland and Ukraine next summer. Ireland, who face Estonia in a qualification play-off next month, are up four places to 25th, Scotland managed to move up one place to 51st despite missing out on qualification after their defeat to Spain, while Northern Ireland dropped 14 places to 84th. ------------- put em under pressure! |
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Posted By: Devrozex
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2011 at 7:15am
 Jaysus, wasn't so long ago that the Pub Team had nicked in ahead of us for a brief stint - now they're 59 places behind!
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dunloybhoy wrote:Posted By: Lenny82
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2011 at 7:20am
Win both legs against Estonia and we are in the top 20!!! 
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Posted By: WindBag
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2011 at 7:21am
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Great to see.
Well done Trap and the Team
 2 or more places will see us where we really sit, about 21st/22nd
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Posted By: herman
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2011 at 7:23am
 ------------- the german |
Posted By: Ireland4ever
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2011 at 7:26am
From 41st to 25th during Traps time in charge. Well done. 
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Posted By: t_rAndy
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2011 at 7:26am
Great stuff. We qualify then we should also pick up points in the Euro's since international tournaments carry a lot of points, especially if we can get out of the group. Could be looking at top 15 
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Posted By: BaileNuisBhoy
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2011 at 7:28am
| Always good to be in the top 25 |
Posted By: Metal Paul
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2011 at 7:33am
 Onwards and upwards! ------------- "There are no chicks with dicks Johnny, just guys with tits." |
Posted By: Max Power
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2011 at 7:36am
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http://www.fifa.com/newscentre/widgets/index.html - http://www.fifa.com/newscentre/widgets/index.html
Deadly little thing on this page that you put in your teams next 2 results and it shows you how many points you would get! A 1-0 win away, and 2-0 win at home against Estonia would have us on 914 pts, and possibly into the top 20! ------------- Co-Founder of The Paul McShane Fan Club, Portmarnock Branch |
Posted By: darmack
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2011 at 7:55am
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Denmark joint 10th with Argentina, really? But great to be seeing us this high up, it's been too long. ------------- The dark side.. And the light |
Posted By: el2nz
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2011 at 7:57am
| We've had a good 2011 on paper, better than Brazil and Argentina. Northern Ireland, on the other hand would be around 150th in the World if they had the same year for the next 3 too. |
Posted By: MJD
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2011 at 7:58am
Obviously, in reality, you wouldn't think so. However, Denmark did beat portugal to win the group and qualify automatically, and I believe Argentina lost to Venezuela in their last match.
Plus, any team who does well with Bendtner playing for them deserves a high ranking (yes, I am aware he smashes the goals in for Denmark, but he's still pure poo).
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Posted By: walsheman
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2011 at 8:02am
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nice one,so this time next month we be top 20 for the first time in ages!!NIIIIIICCCCCEEEE
------------- Going To The Euro's,Poland and Ukraine 2012 HO HO!!!! twitter.......@walsheman |
Posted By: finnanselbow
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2011 at 8:06am
| Just a pity FIFA didn't wait to make the 2014 qualifying draw with these rankings! |
Posted By: erimus
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2011 at 8:08am
thought playoffs dont count for rankings ------------- This is our f**king country we're talking about - Keano ROLL ON 2016 |
Posted By: swimmityswim
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2011 at 8:11am
the fai season ticket said that if we didnt qualify for playoffs, there'd be a friendly instead of the home game, so im guessing it's an international break, which should count towards rankings. |
Posted By: Max Power
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2011 at 8:22am
Never heard that before, it has an option for our 2 games v Estonia to fill in on that widget so I presume they do, anyone confirm this? ------------- Co-Founder of The Paul McShane Fan Club, Portmarnock Branch |
Posted By: erimus
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2011 at 8:24am
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im almost certain the playoff v france didnt count towards ranking points
------------- This is our f**king country we're talking about - Keano ROLL ON 2016 |
Posted By: Hoosay
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2011 at 8:39am
| Friendlies count, so why wouldn't playoffs? |
Posted By: el2nz
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2011 at 8:41am
| Playoffs should count for double. They're make or break games. |
Posted By: SuperDave84
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2011 at 8:46am
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Every match counts for FIFA rankings and have weighting depending on the match and opponent WC > Euros & Copa American > Qualifiers > Friendlies. Opponent strength taken into account too, plus home and away factor. For UEFA rankings, only the result matters and they only take competitive games into account. You get bonus points for playoffs (6000 iirc) and for advancing in tournaments & winning penalty shootouts (which counts as 20000 points, as opposed to 30000 for a win and 10000 for a draw). In short, playoffs always count, and for the UEFA rankings, actually get you bonus points. |
Posted By: RogerMilla
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2011 at 8:54am
both games counted ------------- The first time the Devil made me do it. The second time I did it on my own. |
Posted By: erimus
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2011 at 8:58am
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yeah dont know what i was on about at all!
------------- This is our f**king country we're talking about - Keano ROLL ON 2016 |
Posted By: Bob Hoskins
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2011 at 9:59am
It's funny how when we're going up the rankings it's great but when we're going the other direction they're sh*t an inaccurate 
------------- Romario 2016: And the ticket mafia gets caught! Well, four years ago I had already told the government. |
Posted By: lassassinblanc
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2011 at 10:01am
Good to see us rising. And there were people on here complaining that we were making no improvement under Trap- up 20 something places not bad- give him two more years andwe'll be top 
All joking aside depending on the results of other games and our own we could be up into top 20 next month
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Posted By: the_walls
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2011 at 10:43am
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Great to see us getting up the ladder but they are still a load of balls. Wales are now up to 45th one place ahead of Armenia who have had a brilliant campaign. You start really low, win a few games, and you shoot up the rankings way too quickly. Look at Montenegro.
Still though its the system FIFA use, it aint going to change so its great to see us moving up
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Posted By: The U
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2011 at 11:51am
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keep on climbing
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Posted By: Pablo
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2011 at 1:07pm
Great to see us moving up the list important when it comes draws for world and euros  ------------- Euro 2012 |
Posted By: newrygreen
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2011 at 2:58pm
------------- Twitter: @50SavesOfDeGea |
Posted By: WindBag
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2011 at 5:14pm
| Best of luck Newrygreen in the world cup!! |
Posted By: KrisMorrisKross
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2011 at 5:44pm
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Estonia have dropped 1 place to 59th in the World. They are ranked 31st in Europe. We are 17th. ------------- Back o' the Net ! |
Posted By: herman
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2011 at 5:57pm
You've gotta luv the football manager stats. Something seems to be horribly wrong though! Forget about Ireland... Germany, 26th??  ------------- the german |
Posted By: MJD
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2011 at 6:04pm
CHEAT CHEAT CHEAT CHEAT!!!!
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Posted By: Max Power
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2011 at 3:32am
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Keep us posted about how you get on newrygreen, gwan ireland! ------------- Co-Founder of The Paul McShane Fan Club, Portmarnock Branch |
Posted By: Del-Piero
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2011 at 3:51am
Ah Football Manager! where a Darren Potter penalty miss in a shoot-out cost Ireland Euro 2008 during my time in charge  but never mind Germany in 26th, whats up with Switzerland in 15th?------------- I don't quite see how you cherish the memory of the dead by killing another million. And, this is not combat, it's an act of lunacy, General Sir. Personally, I think you're a f**king idiot. |
Posted By: wicklowrunner
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2011 at 3:51am
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If the World Cup Draw was today instead of 3 months ago, we would have been 2nd seeds. |
Posted By: davekoolhill
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2011 at 6:28am
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Lads, a quick question, when we qualify for the Euro's after beating Estonia (I know im on the bandwagon), will our ranking impact on the position we get drawn in the group. We were seeded in the Playoff draw, so would we be 2nd seeds in the Euro's group? ------------- Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/DaveOGrady1" rel="nofollow - DaveOGrady1 |
Posted By: lassassinblanc
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2011 at 7:03am
http://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Download/competitions/General/01/69/56/52/1695652_DOWNLOAD.pdf - http://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Download/competitions/General/01/69/56/52/1695652_DOWNLOAD.pdf
based on the fact that the hosts are also seeded we will be fourth seeds should all top seeds qualify
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Posted By: lassassinblanc
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2011 at 7:09am
top seeds: Ukraine,Poland,Spain,Holland
2nd:Germany,Italy,England,Russia
3rd:Croatia,Greece,Sweden,Denmark
4th:Portugal,France,Ireland,Czech Rep
That of course if all top seeds qualify
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Posted By: Max Power
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2011 at 7:21am
I'd rather be 4th seeds looking at who are also 4th seeds and we would avoid, the teams in pot 3 are easier than pot 4 imo ------------- Co-Founder of The Paul McShane Fan Club, Portmarnock Branch |
Posted By: Trapped
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2011 at 7:26am
Newrygreen to take over for the WC qualifying. The FLO's can tell the FAI this is what we want. ------------- 67% points to games ratio at the last Euro's (better than Portugal's) |
Posted By: Stoked Up
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2011 at 7:30am
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It's interesting that as we climb the ladder, we are now closer to our Elo ranking, which is usually considered a more accurate ranking system, rather than FIFA's one. Elo rankings here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Football_Elo_Ratings#Top_100_ranking - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Football_Elo_Ratings#Top_100_ranking (incidently, this doesn't page has not been recently updated to take into account the new FIFA rankings, but does account for our last game played) Either way, it's fantastic progress for Ireland and will surely aid our position in future draws.
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Posted By: Stoked Up
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2011 at 7:36am
Based on what? current form or reputation? Portugal, France and Czech Rep would appear to be all on the way down. Greece and Denmark won their groups and Sweden only finished behind Holland who are Europe's second top rated team. Croatia only narrowly missed out to Greece and would be the top seeded team in the playoffs. Based on current form, all of this quartet would be trickier opponents than the potential three in pot four. |
Posted By: lassassinblanc
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2011 at 8:27am
The Danes,Croats and Swedes all good teams (would take Greeks anyday though )
As for Portugal,France both have some good young players coming through the czech u21 team didn't look too bad either in u21's in summer
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Posted By: t_rAndy
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2011 at 9:35am
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Posted By: lassassinblanc
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2011 at 10:00am
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[QUOTE=trapped][QUOTE=newrygreen]
I want to know two things
1.What is your Ireland Squad
2.What is the German Squad 26th in the World that crazy!!
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Posted By: Max Power
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2011 at 10:46am
As far as I remember, the German national team isn't licensed in FM so its just a load of the dark grey players that you cant buy playing for them, I'd say thats why they are so low  ------------- Co-Founder of The Paul McShane Fan Club, Portmarnock Branch |
Posted By: Belfast Green
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2011 at 8:02am
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Two wins in the play-off's and we could be up to 18th in the world rankings
http://www.football-rankings.info/2011/10/fifa-ranking-november-2011-probable_21.html - http://www.football-rankings.info/2011/10/fifa-ranking-november-2011-probable_21.html
------------- http://oneteaminireland.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - http://oneteaminireland.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: 9fingers
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2011 at 11:26am
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Posted By: SuperDave84
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2011 at 11:28am
I object to that. Knowing that doesn't make you a ranking geek. Making a spreadsheet that means you only have to put the scores of the playoffs in and it automatically updating the seeds..... now THAT is ranking geekery. |
Posted By: newrygreen
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2011 at 5:52pm
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Thats just a print screen from the 2009 game folks. Dont have it anymore unfortunately. Cant even mind how I got on in the world cup. Wish I still had that game!!
------------- Twitter: @50SavesOfDeGea |
Posted By: Belfast Green
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2011 at 5:18am
http://www.football-rankings.info/2011/11/fifa-ranking-november-2011-final.html - Up to 21st in November rankings
------------- http://oneteaminireland.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - http://oneteaminireland.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: Pipkin
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2011 at 5:20am
We'd have been comfortably been in pot 2 now
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Posted By: BigPodge
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2011 at 5:21am
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Posted By: MJD
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2011 at 5:50am
Probably be at least one spot higher if we beat Estonia in the second leg.
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Posted By: WindBag
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2011 at 5:55am
| not bad at all ! |
Posted By: Diego Duffy
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2011 at 5:59am
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Great to see, but a pity we didnt beat Estonia at home...where would we have been if we did beat them?
------------- Ireland 4 Poland and Ukraine 2012 :D |
Posted By: rolo
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2011 at 6:49am
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We would have been 18th in the world if we had beaten Estonia on Tuesday. Still, brillliant all the same. ------------- "I'm off to see the Queen tomorrow too, don't forget that" |
Posted By: walsheman
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2011 at 6:50am
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let the rise up the table continue
------------- Going To The Euro's,Poland and Ukraine 2012 HO HO!!!! twitter.......@walsheman |
Posted By: DangerHere
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2011 at 6:58am
Well in that case we have really only lost out on one spot, because the world rankings really don't matter for anything. It's the uefa rankings that are important
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Posted By: t_rAndy
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2011 at 7:19am
| No groups to be drawn for awhile now so although it would have been nice to break the top 20, the most important thing is to not drop any positions before the next draw is for the world cup 2014 which will take place this time in two years. If we manage to get out of the group in the Euro's then we will be in top 20 and if we finish top 2 in the World cup qualifiers and qualify for the world cup then good chance we can be in the 2nd pot for that draw |
Posted By: Steve Amsterdam
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2011 at 7:36am
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Shame about the draw, but still brilliant to see us on 21st spot again. And who knows where we'll end up after the Euro's! ------------- Molly Malone's pub- The home of YBIG in Amsterdam! |
Posted By: Ireland4ever
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2011 at 7:39am
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From 41st to 21st under trap, now thats progress, fair play.
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Posted By: McG
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2011 at 7:40am
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Some climb ------------- YBIG Table Quiz winner 2016 & 2017 AS YOU WERE McGx |
Posted By: BabbsBalls
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2011 at 7:47am
| Did ye get the leg up mcg ? |
Posted By: M.50
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2011 at 7:49am
| Fantastic achievement for this country |
Posted By: damo21
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2011 at 7:53am
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Might silence the critics at last !! ------------- he who lies down with the dog will come up with fleas |
Posted By: DangerHere
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2011 at 8:14am
Don't be silly. Even if we win the euros critics like Dunphy will still be saying "We're never gonna win the World Cup playing like that" "It's one thing beating European teams, it's a whole other kettle of fish beating South Americans"
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Posted By: ericdogg
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2011 at 8:24am
Great to be back where he belong  ------------- International Caps - 7 International Goals - 1 |
Posted By: Jerryfromkerry
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2011 at 8:56am
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Of our near neighbours England 5th Scotland 49th Wales 50th ------------- No man has the right to fix the boundary to the march of a nation. No man has the right to say to his country “thus far shalt thou go and no further" |
Posted By: JayDunne88
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2011 at 8:59am
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You can't really question Trap after that, that's a massive leap since he has taking over.
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Posted By: dotts101
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2011 at 11:28am
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nearly ahead of sweden
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Posted By: BabbsBalls
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2011 at 11:33am
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It is funny how when we're going up the rankings it's great but when we're going the other direction they're sh*t . They are inaccurate at times but important no doubt so well done lads
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Posted By: Green Devil
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2011 at 1:31pm
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The Rankings are sh*t in all fairness Babbs some of the scoring is ridic on some counts , but sure f**k it we're upto 21st im happy ------------- "He drives two Ferraris; I think he's a very lucky lad to have 50 caps for Ireland," Eamonn Dunphy on Glenn Whelan |
Posted By: Borussia
Date Posted: 23 Nov 2011 at 3:48am
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We are on the up again folks, up 4 places to 21st.
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Posted By: MJD
Date Posted: 23 Nov 2011 at 3:58am
I suppose next you're going to be telling us Ireland beat Estonia 4-0? |
Posted By: Borussia
Date Posted: 23 Nov 2011 at 4:04am
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Not that I don't trust those on her with more time than myself to work these things out (Don't care what anybody says, these calculations are done like those lower league Scottish games you see results for on a Saturding - Numbers generated at random !) but FIFA only offically published the new rankings today.
Glad we wonn 4-0. I fancy a 1-1 draw in the second leg........
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Posted By: aviva8
Date Posted: 23 Nov 2011 at 5:11am
| Does anyone know what our highest ever world ranking was?I think it was under chartlon. |
Posted By: c90
Date Posted: 23 Nov 2011 at 5:13am
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5th back in 1990. the year rankings started
* I'm completely wrong it was 93 and we were 6th ( but in my defence it was based on the WC 1990 results) ------------- Maggie Thatcher, Winston Churchill, Lawrence Of Arabia, Elton John! Yiz can all go f**k yerselves |
Posted By: Mr Marbles
Date Posted: 23 Nov 2011 at 5:14am
| Highest ever was 7 th I think |
Posted By: Fitzinho
Date Posted: 23 Nov 2011 at 5:14am
You can check our entire timeline of standings on FIFA.com
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Posted By: c90
Date Posted: 23 Nov 2011 at 5:15am
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If you only consider the fifa co-eff ranking for the last year, were 11th and ahead of Brazil and Holland ------------- Maggie Thatcher, Winston Churchill, Lawrence Of Arabia, Elton John! Yiz can all go f**k yerselves |
Posted By: deise316
Date Posted: 23 Nov 2011 at 5:23am
6th in late '92/early '93 as far as I remember. Also seem to remember Norway being ranked 1 or 2 around the same time, could be wrong on that tho !!
------------- Picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue..... |
Posted By: Weser777
Date Posted: 23 Nov 2011 at 5:34am
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yer right... ------------- "I'm not the best manager in the world, but I'm definitely in the top one!" - Brian Clough |
Posted By: Fitzinho
Date Posted: 23 Nov 2011 at 5:48am
Detail time range summary - From Jan 1993 To Nov 2011
Compared teams positions
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Republic of IrelandPosted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 23 Nov 2011 at 6:18am
Aug 93 6th  ------------- Pied Piper to: Baldrick, Brendan 88, 9Fingers, Borussia and more... 97.6% chance this post will be replied to by Baldrick (source: PWC) |
Posted By: Stoked Up
Date Posted: 23 Nov 2011 at 7:07am
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Sept 98 - 54th Some here might now be surprised, that Mick managed to hang on to his job during this period, despite that tumble. I don't think another manager would now be given so much leeway to get things going again. It has to be said though that prior to that time, it was deemed that Charlton had failed to bring on a newer generation and this was left to McCarthy. IRC, he had a disasterous start losing most of the first half dozen games. Although we went on to qualify for the playoffs in second place, it was off the back of a very easy group, of which we finished miles behind the group winners, Romania. We failed to beat Iceland and Lithuania at home and were beaten away by Macedonia, who were only finding their feet as one of the newest EUFA participants. It should be pointed out that we had still had the likes of Denis Irwin/Gary Kelly/Steve Staunton/Niall Quinn/Cascarino/Alan Kelly/Ray Houghton/Jason McAteer all still available to us. And we also had Roy Keane, but he often went missing during McCarthy's earlier tenure. This fall down the ranking wasn't lost on the FAI and when Kerr took over from McCarthy, friendlies were managed much better and opponents chosen that we were more likely to pick up ranking points from. A pity it all fell apart under Staunton. It's taken Trap four years to recover our usual place in the 2nd echelon of EUFA.
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Posted By: The Saint
Date Posted: 23 Nov 2011 at 7:26am
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while I don't agree that the world rankings give a true indication of how much better/worse we are compared the other teams it certainly shows how we have improved over the last couple years ------------- FAIlure Good shot, lovely ............ oh good jaysus |
Posted By: t_rAndy
Date Posted: 23 Nov 2011 at 9:19am
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Really well placed when they first started. The first slide started in the 96 group which was really one of the most f**ked up groups we were ever in. Started off like we wouldn't be stopped. Then the North got a draw off us at home but we still managed to rectify by beating Portugal. Then we had the dreaded Liechtenstein game where he had multiple chances but didn't get the 3 points. Then we played Austria at home, went 1-0 up and hit the post but they still managed to come back and beat us. Fell apart then. If only those last two matches had been 6 points instead of 1 then things could have been a lot different for us! |
Posted By: Saint Tom
Date Posted: 23 Nov 2011 at 12:58pm
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the england friendly began the slide in 1995 ------------- My destination inchicore my next stop being kilmainham Where patriots and super saints are the topics of conversation |
Posted By: Pablo
Date Posted: 23 Nov 2011 at 2:37pm
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Great to be on the way up Stauntons time in charge done some damage when you look at the ranking during his time. Good to be heading up towards the top table with the likes of Spain Germany etc ------------- Euro 2012 |
Posted By: Billy O'Toole
Date Posted: 23 Nov 2011 at 4:50pm
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not a bad achievment ------------- Ybig holy jaysus - 4 points for Gerk & Count |
Posted By: nvidic
Date Posted: 23 Nov 2011 at 5:07pm
| still sickened the wc 2014 draw was made prematurely, could cost us big time |
Posted By: Max Power
Date Posted: 23 Nov 2011 at 5:23pm
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How far do the ranking go back? Can't be long now till Stauntons campaign is wiped out altogether? ------------- Co-Founder of The Paul McShane Fan Club, Portmarnock Branch |
Posted By: Weser777
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2011 at 3:49pm
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as long as we stay consistant, and not g into freefall like back then....they were dark days ------------- "I'm not the best manager in the world, but I'm definitely in the top one!" - Brian Clough |
Posted By: oreilly21
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2011 at 3:19am
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although we do need to replace a number of players after this summer,
players who could retire are Given, Keane, Dunne, Duff & John O'Shea
in fairness Given & Dunne are the only ones there who may actually jack it in but do we have the players to replace them? i dont think so personally
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Posted By: grannyrule
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2012 at 7:06pm
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We are up to 20th in the FIFA rankings |
Posted By: M.50
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2012 at 7:12pm
was only searching this morning for some advance info on the rankings, knew they were being updated on Feb 15. cheers  great news, up 3 places |
Posted By: Jerryfromkerry
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2012 at 7:49pm
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Into top 20. Let's stay there ------------- No man has the right to fix the boundary to the march of a nation. No man has the right to say to his country “thus far shalt thou go and no further" |