Willo Flood
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Topic: Willo Flood
Posted By: Sloop John G
Subject: Willo Flood
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2011 at 6:40am
Flood hoping to catch Trap's eye on return to Scotland
By Ruaidhri O'Connor Saturday July 02 2011 AN http://searchtopics.independent.ie/topic/Ireland - Ireland cap may be the furthest thing from Willo Flood's mind right now, but he hasn't given up on his dreams of wearing the green jersey. Once the shining Irish light of his generation, the 26-year-old has returned to http://searchtopics.independent.ie/topic/Dundee_United - Dundee United in order to reignite a career stalled by injury -- and http://searchtopics.independent.ie/topic/Tony_Mowbray - Tony Mowbray . If an http://searchtopics.independent.ie/topic/Ireland - Ireland call were to come his way, he'd jump at the chance and the Dubliner says he can't understand the mentality of those who don't answer Ireland's call. "Do you know what? With everything that has gone on in the last 18 months, two years, I wouldn't even think about an Ireland cap," he said. "I'm only 26, I would like one cap, you know? I've seen a few players that don't deserve caps who got caps and I wouldn't mind being one of them even. "I don't understand players not turning up. I just think it's in your blood to represent your country and I just can't get my head around why people wouldn't turn up." As a former trainee at http://searchtopics.independent.ie/topic/Manchester_City - Manchester City , Flood is close to http://searchtopics.independent.ie/topic/Stephen_Ireland - Stephen Ireland and has to agree to disagree with his old team-mate about his decision to stay away from international football. Flood reckons there will be no going back, but he believes Ireland will get back to playing his best football soon. complex "Stephen is a complex character," he said. "I just think that's his decision and he's just strong minded about his decisions. He's always been strong minded, even as a kid. I don't think there's any going back on it. "He felt as if he had a bit of a rough time and he felt he'd be better off with his family in England. It's only a matter of time before he gets back to his best." Flood has had a difficult time since his dream move to http://searchtopics.independent.ie/topic/Celtic_FC - Celtic went sour under http://searchtopics.independent.ie/topic/Tony_Mowbray - Mowbray . http://searchtopics.independent.ie/topic/Gordon_Strachan - Gordon Strachan lured him to http://searchtopics.independent.ie/topic/Middlesbrough_F.C. - Middlesbrough and he took to life in the Championship well, but injury haunted him, the manager was sacked and in came Mowbray again. "I think it's safe to say that Tony Mowbray doesn't fancy me as a player," he said with a wry smile. "I definitely knew the second time, but to be fair I knew the first time. The last 18 months has been the hardest part of my football career. "With the injuries, it takes it's toll and that's why I've come to back. Me and the manager (Stephen Thompson) get on well and I've played my best football under him so hopefully I can pick up where I left off." |
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Posted By: Clonbhoy
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2011 at 6:45am
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Thanks for that. Had been just wondering the other day if Willo had any desire to play for his country.I can now put that issue to bed.
------------- A man can have no greater love than give 90 minutes to his friends. @withgodlygrace |
Posted By: Sloop John G
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2011 at 6:49am
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Clonbhoy wrote:Posted By: Trapcandoit
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2011 at 7:14am
"I just think it's in your blood to represent your country.." This is the type of chap that we should be looking seriously at for development in the senior side  . Sod off to the Irelands, McCarthys, McCanns etc etc etc- they should just have to wait. Gwan Willo. Get stuck in there boy------------- 5 goals to go Robbie! |
Posted By: Green Devil
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2011 at 9:20am
What has McCann done wrong
 James McCarthy is ten times the player Willo Flood is what are you talking about...
He hasnt much hope getting in our midfield thats for sure , maybe a squad player at best...We have so many better options than this guy!!! ------------- "He drives two Ferraris; I think he's a very lucky lad to have 50 caps for Ireland," Eamonn Dunphy on Glenn Whelan |
Posted By: FREEWHEELER
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2011 at 9:35am
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Willo's nothing better than a journeyman pro in my opinion, hope he makes an ok living at it, but I wouldn't ever rate him as international class from what I've seen of him, very unlucky with injuries also. ------------- We'll never die, we'll never die, we'll keep the Green Flag flying high......Shamrock Rovers will never die, we'll keep the Green Flag Flying high. 19 Leagues and 25 Cups..... |
Posted By: Sono
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2011 at 9:54am
The only time anyone will ever thank you on this forum ya absolute tool, was sure you were banned for good  |
Posted By: McG
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2011 at 9:59am
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Eh Sono what's wrong with posting this article?
Sloop John (whoever he may be  ) has been behaving himself so let sleeping dogs lie  ------------- YBIG Table Quiz winner 2016 & 2017 AS YOU WERE McGx |
Posted By: Clonbhoy
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2011 at 10:00am
I thought the sarcasm was fairly obvious!!  ------------- A man can have no greater love than give 90 minutes to his friends. @withgodlygrace |
Posted By: Sono
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2011 at 10:02am
He will crack soon, only a matter of time before we have another meltdown thread. LINK LINK LINK LINK LINK  |
Posted By: ShamtheRam
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2011 at 10:26am
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Yeah lets put Willo Flood into the team instead of McCarthy and Ireland.
I wont even attempt to judge him with Chris McCann as he seems incapable of kicking a ball and not getting injured.
Some people really need to get their heads examined with the sh*t they come up with on here. ------------- YBIG NPF founder and CEO |
Posted By: Green Devil
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2011 at 10:33am
Its all about the heart and passion  ------------- "He drives two Ferraris; I think he's a very lucky lad to have 50 caps for Ireland," Eamonn Dunphy on Glenn Whelan |
Posted By: Sloop John G
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2011 at 10:37am
| He would have a hard time getting a place in the centre of midfield let alone out wide where we have myriad options, Duff, McGeady, Hunt, Lawrence, Fahey, Treacy, Hoolahan at a stretch. The poor lad is just too feeble. |
Posted By: wrestler313
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2011 at 11:08am
| Good to hear, who knows he could maybe make some squads if he starts playing as well up at Tannadice as he did in his previous spell. He's had a rough go of it...move to Celtic was a terrible decision |
Posted By: Clonbhoy
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2011 at 11:12am
Absolutely brutal, spending that money on him when it could have been spent on Fletcher cost us the league that year ------------- A man can have no greater love than give 90 minutes to his friends. @withgodlygrace |
Posted By: yapster
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2011 at 1:47pm
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Flood is an honest grafter but that is all he is...
------------- They are all w**kers. john lydon. |
Posted By: Trapcandoit
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2011 at 5:49pm
Mc Cann hasn't played in a green shirt since he deserted the team claiming that being on the ROI subs bench was a waste of his time-two hours before kickoff in 2007! Mc Carthy-I'm fed up talking about(and I don't care how good you guys claim he is.) Finally Green Devil I stick by my point- give me ten Mc Carthys for one player with some HEART and I would choose the likes of Willo any day! I'd rather a PLAYER than a NO-SHOW any day!
------------- 5 goals to go Robbie! |
Posted By: Trapcandoit
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2011 at 5:57pm
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Gwan Willo more power to ye boy
------------- 5 goals to go Robbie! |
Posted By: BoboDub
Date Posted: 03 Jul 2011 at 3:14am
Is he actually saying he wants to be a player who gets a cap despite not deserving one???  |
Posted By: Sloop John G
Date Posted: 03 Jul 2011 at 6:09am
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Posted By: Green Devil
Date Posted: 03 Jul 2011 at 12:59pm
Yes that was with the under 21s so it has nothing got to do with the senior squad....It was also 4 years ago and we've a new manager in place so its a pretty pointless argument tbh!!
Well pal dont expect us to qualify for any tournaments soon if we're dropping the likes of McCarthy for Willo Flood....Id rather Trap kept looking at younger hunger players than trying to see if the likes of Flood can cut it at international level...
------------- "He drives two Ferraris; I think he's a very lucky lad to have 50 caps for Ireland," Eamonn Dunphy on Glenn Whelan |
Posted By: Weser777
Date Posted: 03 Jul 2011 at 1:12pm
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If Willo can play for Ireland, then I have a chance too!! ------------- "I'm not the best manager in the world, but I'm definitely in the top one!" - Brian Clough |
Posted By: scottyccfc
Date Posted: 04 Jul 2011 at 6:04am
Us? Flood never played for City! ------------- Hometown football, cant beat the feeling... |
Posted By: Trapcandoit
Date Posted: 04 Jul 2011 at 4:52pm
And how the hell do you "drop" a player who's not there anyway?? "Younger and hungrier players.."??? My point exactly!!!
 Your splitting hairs Greendevil. My argument isn't pointless- it's very valid and I heartily support ANY young chap with a good heart and ambitions to match. They're a frigging dying breed these days and should be applauded and given sound encouragement and backing every step of the way whether they can make it or not, Which by the way is a matter of personal opinion!------------- 5 goals to go Robbie! |
Posted By: Drummerboy
Date Posted: 04 Jul 2011 at 6:16pm
| If every Irish player that had a row with Don Givens was ignored for future Irish squads, we'd struggle to field a team. |
Posted By: Trapcandoit
Date Posted: 04 Jul 2011 at 6:52pm
Too true unfortunately. Spoilt pampered generation of young Celtic tiger gits mostly imo. ------------- 5 goals to go Robbie! |
Posted By: Trapcandoit
Date Posted: 04 Jul 2011 at 7:01pm
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Wehoutcha Willo Boy! Keep hold of those dreams son. All the way boy. All the way ------------- 5 goals to go Robbie! |
Posted By: Green Devil
Date Posted: 04 Jul 2011 at 7:02pm
Ambtion and being realistic are two very different things!!
James McCarthy has had more than one genuine reason to not be included for selection , he remains our brightest prospect and can also cut it in the EPL....So are you telling me McCarthy isnt there with the Irish set up and wont be in the future
Younger and hungrier players who can cut it at international level , if Willo Flood is our answer we may aswell give up!! He did well at Dundee Untied but he failed at Man City , Celtic , Cardiff and Boro so you would rather this guy in our squad over a young player with potential???!!
I dont want Flood to fail obviously not , i want him to get back on track with Dundee United and have a good club career but he isnt good enough for Ireland his club record has shown that... ------------- "He drives two Ferraris; I think he's a very lucky lad to have 50 caps for Ireland," Eamonn Dunphy on Glenn Whelan |
Posted By: Green Devil
Date Posted: 04 Jul 2011 at 7:05pm
Seriously???!! ------------- "He drives two Ferraris; I think he's a very lucky lad to have 50 caps for Ireland," Eamonn Dunphy on Glenn Whelan |
Posted By: ShamtheRam
Date Posted: 04 Jul 2011 at 7:21pm
Lets get more players like Flood on board and subject ourselves to abject failure for the next few decades.
In football you have to be brutal. You need the best XI on the pitch at all times. ------------- YBIG NPF founder and CEO |
Posted By: Trapcandoit
Date Posted: 04 Jul 2011 at 7:26pm
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I have nothing against McCarthy having a bright future with us Greenforever and Shamtheram. In fact I've already stated on other threads that I hope he hasn't permenantly damaged his international future with us and I'm quite sure he hasn't anyway. Of course you forgive these guys but don't forget. Realisticlly speaking James- no matter how good he is has had a string of no-shows. His development as a player in the squad has therefore not progressed which means that he's slowed up the development of the entire team. Trap certainly seems to have been trying to fast track the kid into the centre of our midfield. Surely during all that time another player- not necessarily Willo but someone with that drive has also lost out on his place due to it being taken by the constantly missing Mr McCarthy.
------------- 5 goals to go Robbie! |
Posted By: Trapcandoit
Date Posted: 04 Jul 2011 at 7:31pm
------------- 5 goals to go Robbie! |
Posted By: Honey Monster
Date Posted: 04 Jul 2011 at 11:02pm
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Good attitude to have but I cant ever see him getting into the squad. He's a decent little player but doesnt have enough. ------------- 753 |
Posted By: McG
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2014 at 7:20pm
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Suggestions he is being seriously considered for MONs first squad. ------------- YBIG Table Quiz winner 2016 & 2017 AS YOU WERE McGx |
Posted By: Stillhuntinghenry
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2014 at 7:22pm
| Think the bad weather has gone to your head fella |
Posted By: El_nino
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2014 at 7:54pm
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Jaysus
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Posted By: rainpaulo
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2014 at 7:57pm
| Makes Whelan look like Iniesta. |
Posted By: horsebox
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2014 at 8:00pm
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You do realise he's a right winger and not a central midfielder. ------------- It was far across the sea, When the devil got a hold of me, He wouldn't set me free, So he kept me soul for ransom. na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na. I'm a sailor man from Glasgow to |
Posted By: valo88
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2014 at 8:05pm
| Jaysus |
Posted By: El_nino
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2014 at 8:05pm
I doubt he does! |
Posted By: rainpaulo
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2014 at 8:21pm
| Horse how sad are you....the need to pull everyone up...you seriously need to go out and pick up a guy/girl. |
Posted By: horsebox
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2014 at 8:41pm
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Why don't you stop talking sh*te for a change. It's quite clear you've never seen him play before, yet your very quick to comment on how poor you 'think' he is. ------------- It was far across the sea, When the devil got a hold of me, He wouldn't set me free, So he kept me soul for ransom. na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na. I'm a sailor man from Glasgow to |
Posted By: BigStrongMan
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2014 at 8:45pm
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I havnt seen Willo play in years Saw him play under age for us a long time ago ,seems to be around forever ------------- PM me for all forum moderation queries. |
Posted By: rainpaulo
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2014 at 9:18pm
| Horse you are an absolute clown....trying to defend Flood because of something I said...you clearly haven't followed him..very limited player that would bring down the standard of the squad..harsh but true. |
Posted By: horsebox
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2014 at 9:22pm
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I'm not defending him and I think he is nowhere near the standard required to make the squad. I'm just pulling you up on the fact that you don't even know what position he plays. ------------- It was far across the sea, When the devil got a hold of me, He wouldn't set me free, So he kept me soul for ransom. na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na. I'm a sailor man from Glasgow to |
Posted By: rainpaulo
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2014 at 9:36pm
| Horse give it up..I know where he plays..it was a joke statement...give it a rest you are a bore now..the amount of times you try to pull up posters here is pathetic..you have no creadability and will never be a moderator on the forum. |
Posted By: FREEWHEELER
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2014 at 9:36pm
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Honest lad but not international standard. ------------- We'll never die, we'll never die, we'll keep the Green Flag flying high......Shamrock Rovers will never die, we'll keep the Green Flag Flying high. 19 Leagues and 25 Cups..... |
Posted By: BigStrongMan
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2014 at 9:39pm
------------- PM me for all forum moderation queries. |
Posted By: horsebox
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2014 at 9:48pm
It wasn't a joke though. Why bother comment on a player you know nothing about. ------------- It was far across the sea, When the devil got a hold of me, He wouldn't set me free, So he kept me soul for ransom. na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na. I'm a sailor man from Glasgow to |
Posted By: Patman Scoop
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2014 at 9:51pm
you hear that Horse ? the dream is over ------------- Why no wine??! |
Posted By: FREEWHEELER
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2014 at 9:53pm
Too many in the Trap era, would hope O Neill doesn't follow suit ------------- We'll never die, we'll never die, we'll keep the Green Flag flying high......Shamrock Rovers will never die, we'll keep the Green Flag Flying high. 19 Leagues and 25 Cups..... |
Posted By: tonyjaa
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2014 at 9:57pm
Keane was at the game last weekend - Flood and Robson were joint MOTM but it was easy for them as aberdeens 3 mids steamrolled Celtics 2 (one a brand new playmaker) Flood has always been a nippy anklebiting wasp of a centre mid |
Posted By: BigStrongMan
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2014 at 10:08pm
------------- PM me for all forum moderation queries. |
Posted By: The O'Shea
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2014 at 10:17pm
He's played both, played more as a cm throughout his career though I'd say. Good athlete, but skill wise probably not good enough for international football. ------------- We're decent enough.. |
Posted By: coyne
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2014 at 10:19pm
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254 apps 11 goals more than 50% of those apps being in the SPL I can't think of any legitimate reason footballing wise he warrants a call-up
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Posted By: The U
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2014 at 10:24pm
| http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWJsI0m7he0" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWJsI0m7he0 |
Posted By: Trapcandoit
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2014 at 10:51pm
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Why the big long faces (if it's true)? He can't possibly be all that bad. It's a friendly. Let's take a look at him. Best of luck Willo!! ------------- 5 goals to go Robbie! |
Posted By: FREEWHEELER
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2014 at 11:38pm
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It's not that he's that bad, he's just not very good. ------------- We'll never die, we'll never die, we'll keep the Green Flag flying high......Shamrock Rovers will never die, we'll keep the Green Flag Flying high. 19 Leagues and 25 Cups..... |
Posted By: 9fingers
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2014 at 11:47pm
the most positive man in the world, I'd say you'd let Paul Green, Willo flood and every other sh*te Irish player tag team your missus just for an autograph |
Posted By: Trapcandoit
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2014 at 12:09am
Naah Bud. She's happy enough with the one. ------------- 5 goals to go Robbie! |
Posted By: JAVIER
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2014 at 1:15am
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he didnt look like a footballer was very skinny i recalled, will be 29 soon, dont know, he was quick but Eire needs to open the playing pool, would do better on the right hand side than keogh or cox , but i am open to it, some irish guys are really into the brit games from premier league more than the ones involving your countrymen, who the fcuk cares where the guy plays as long as he performs for the national team, football is all about confidence and the built of your own momentum, Some irish lads, please, you still believe the negativity left by Trapattoni, a guy I think he was an ok to average manager for the national team, but not successful for ireland at all, he wasnt better than Brian Kerr, to put it in words, in my opinion. He left a few positives like order, and shape and mentality, but I could have done that and he was getting too much from big fat old good money Ireland national team, should fear no one, check what Juan Pizzi is doing for Valencia, they won at Nou-Camp the other day, and they kicked , pressed high, counter attacked, attacked, blocked, they respected Barcelona by not respecting them at all, that's rule number 1 in the beautiful game, anything can happen during 90 + minutes, this old game aint NBA , TENNIS , or RUGBY sh*t |
Posted By: RogerMilla
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2014 at 6:59am
------------- The first time the Devil made me do it. The second time I did it on my own. |
Posted By: The U
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2014 at 6:19pm
he is not a right midfielder. His success at Aberdeen has been from playing a holding midfielder role. From what I've seen he is a tidy player these days - retains possession well and does alright winning it back. I've watched a few of his games since he played against UCD in a pre season friendly before this current season. Is he good enough for Ireland? To be honest I'm not sure. If he has impressed Roy I'm sure he will watch him again and get a better look. It might be worth calling him up and seeing what he can offer us |
Posted By: Trapcandoit
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2014 at 7:51pm
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Doesn't sound like the worst midfielder we've ever had in our engine room. Consistent form, good feet, personality.. http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/mcinnes-believes-flood-can-step-up-30007706.html I don't know. Might these be traits MON would value/develop? ------------- 5 goals to go Robbie! |
Posted By: FrankosHereNow
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2014 at 8:38pm
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Flood just isn't good enough for the national side. Honest hardworking pro but that's about it. We should be trying out players 8-10 years younger than him in friendlies. ------------- YBIG Quiz Champion 2016, 2017 & 2018. As You Were Three in a row |
Posted By: Trapcandoit
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2014 at 8:44pm
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Tis all just pure speculation anyway. Still intriguing the way it got into media. ------------- 5 goals to go Robbie! |
Posted By: Green Devil
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2014 at 8:58pm
Not really, Keane was there to watch Stokes who didn't play well and Flood played well for Aberdeen who won the game. Plus there wasn't exactly a huge number of Irish players in either side. ------------- "He drives two Ferraris; I think he's a very lucky lad to have 50 caps for Ireland," Eamonn Dunphy on Glenn Whelan |
Posted By: Trapcandoit
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2014 at 9:02pm
Ah. ------------- 5 goals to go Robbie! |
Posted By: Green Devil
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2014 at 9:10pm
The standard in the SPL is as bad as it ever was, Aberdeen to their credit are doing well this season but let's call a spade a spade, he will never be the answer nor judging by his club career will be good enough for international football. I'd rather give Samir, Murray, Hoban etc a chance to impress than a 29 year old journeyman. ------------- "He drives two Ferraris; I think he's a very lucky lad to have 50 caps for Ireland," Eamonn Dunphy on Glenn Whelan |
Posted By: tonyjaa
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2014 at 3:25pm
utter bollox - the standard in the spfl has been excellent this year there were 4 Irish players on the pitch |
Posted By: Green Devil
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2014 at 3:31pm
Bullsh*t Tony. The calibre of player plying their trade in Scotland is at an all time low, how you can ignore that is madness. Take a look at how Scottish teams faired in Europe this season. ------------- "He drives two Ferraris; I think he's a very lucky lad to have 50 caps for Ireland," Eamonn Dunphy on Glenn Whelan |
Posted By: drog addict
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2014 at 4:02pm
Tony, you are delusional if ye think the standard is good in the spl. It's nearly on par with the loi at this stage with the exception of Celtic. ------------- Chips don't bounce |
Posted By: tonyjaa
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2014 at 4:21pm
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the quote that i was replying to was "The standard in the SPL is as bad as it ever was" which is complete and utter bollox, very fecking lazy too great season so far join me in its thread then folks |
Posted By: The U
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2014 at 12:30pm
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As I said I've been keeping an eye out for Flood this season Tony, the standard is very poor - I'm sure it's entertaining for a Celtic fan |
Posted By: Salzburglilly
Date Posted: 16 May 2021 at 10:56am
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Willo is a sound chap! Had a great chat with him for the radio show and podcast this week and he gives good insight into the problems with underage football in Ireland compared to Scotland where he is an agent now ,He's also told me a mad story about getting robbed at knifepoint by a Man City fan and how he was treated at Celtic! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWilNs9d6t0" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWilNs9d6t0 ------------- Nathan Collins - The best Kildare baller since Johnny Doyle! |
Posted By: t_rAndy
Date Posted: 16 May 2021 at 11:07am
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Played against us in school football years ago and always remember thinking this fella is going to be world class and would look out for his progress. Never quite made it consistently at the top but decent career for himself.
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Posted By: You Tell Me
Date Posted: 16 May 2021 at 12:03pm
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Interesting interview. Particularly the part where he talked about not playing enough football between 19 and 21. A lot of our current younger players falling into the same trap as he did - Connell, Coventry, Kilkenny and so on. Especially the players that have come through the Irish system. As he says, they're already behind and playing catch up when they go over so they need to be playing games regularly from 19, 20 onwards.
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Posted By: Salzburglilly
Date Posted: 16 May 2021 at 3:06pm
Very true , He brought it up a few times and it was interesting to hear that the training methods hadn't changed since his days at Cherry Orchard. ------------- Nathan Collins - The best Kildare baller since Johnny Doyle! |