PFA Player of the Year nominees
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Topic: PFA Player of the Year nominees
Posted By: Roberto Baggio
Subject: PFA Player of the Year nominees
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2011 at 3:43am
Adam, Parker, Tevez, Vidic, Bale and Nasri
Young playar nominees - Hart, Coleman, Bale, Nasri, Nani and Wilshere
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Posted By: Siralex
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2011 at 4:12am
It just goes to show.....players haven't a foookin clue abut the game!
That list is laughable!
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Posted By: Devrozex
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2011 at 4:16am
The young players list is pretty strong this year! Wilshere, Nasri, Nani and Bale - could be any of them. Surprised Nani, and to a lesser extent Wilshere, aren't in the main category either. Would have Nani ahead of Adam surely? Guess he ain't to popular amongst his fellow pros though...
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Posted By: Roberto Baggio
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2011 at 4:20am
Siralex wrote:
It just goes to show.....players haven't a foookin clue abut the game!
That list is laughable! |
as a self-proclaimed know all, what would your lists be?
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Posted By: Siralex
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2011 at 4:27am
Roberto Baggio wrote:
Siralex wrote:
It just goes to show.....players haven't a foookin clue abut the game! That list is laughable! |
as a self-proclaimed know all, what would your lists be? |
I ain't fan of individual awards within a team game, but if you're looking for the top 6 players who performed to their best this season, I'd have picked
Edwin van der Sar
Gary Cahill
Scott Parker
Nani
Rafa van der Vaart
Carlos Tevez
with Nani winning it by a country mile. But I guess we'll all have opinions on this....
Thanks for askin'...
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Posted By: Roberto Baggio
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2011 at 4:54am
i would agree that Nani should be on the shortlist, he's had a great year.
Oliver Holt in the Mirror -
Puerile, petulant and aplayactor ..why this is no super Nani
By Oliver Holt http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/columnists/holt/2011/03/30/ - 30/03/2011
A manchester United fan asked me the other day if I would consider voting for Nani as Footballer of the Year.
Well, maybe there is a way of saying this more gently, but I'm not going to waste time searching for it.
I'd get my back waxed before I voted for Nani.
If it was a choice between him and the beachball that scored against Liverpool last season, I'd take the beachball.
If it was vote Nani or watch a box set of Ian Wright on Live From Studio Five, I'd settle down in front of the TV.
If Ashley Cole said it was either put the cross by the Portuguese or help him with target practice, I'd start running to and fro across the firing range.
You're getting my drift. Nani's not in my top five this season. He's not even in my top 20.
I don't like him. I don't like the way he plays the game. I don't like his puerility, his petulance or his play-acting. I don't like his blatant efforts to gain an unfair advantage.
I know that by some criteria he has had a fine season for United. He has scored crucial goals. He is a fine dribbler. His game has matured.
But that's not enough. Not when you behave the way he does. Not when you do what he did against Spurs this season.
Not when you try a delayed dive that could easily have got Younes Kaboul sent off. Not when you then handle the ball as you fall.
And not when you take advantage of confusion between the referee and Spurs goalkeeper Heurelho Gomes to kick the ball into an empty net.
I don't care which of the United players were urging him to do it - it is still probably the most glaring example of bad sportsmanship this season.
Nani's at it all the time. He goes down like he has been shot at the merest excuse. He waves imaginary cards at referees to try to get opponents booked.
And here's the saddest thing - despite the blackflips and the cartwheels when he scores, there is actually very little joy in his game.
He plays with a scowl. He plays with anger. He plays like everyone is against him. It has become a self-fulfilling prophecy.
When he was genuinely hurt by a shocking tackle from Jamie Carragher at Anfield earlier this month, no one believed him at first because of his history.
He had a gash in his leg that put him out for a couple of weeks but he's cried wolf so often that when he really was a victim of a bad tackle, people thought he was up to his old tricks again.
Being anti-Nani isn't an anti-United thing. Not for me, anyway. I wouldn't vote for Didier Drogba for exactly the same reasons.
And, yes, I accept that England players such as Steven Gerrard, Michael Owen and Wayne Rooney have been guilty of winning penalties with dives in the past.
Cristiano Ronaldo did his share of play-acting, too, but I came to appreciate that he was one of the bravest players in our league.
He rode plenty of bad tackles and he took way more punishment than Nani. He was also twice the player that Nani is.
It would be nice to think that Nani will change. That he will come to realise that in order to http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/columnists/holt/# - Until that happens, he's not in the reckoning for Footballer of the Year as far as I'm concerned.
My vote is going to Scott Parker for the way he has held West Ham together almost single-handedly as they fight against relegation.
Parker has been an inspiration at Upton Park, playing through injury, even playing against Spurs 10 days ago a few hours after the death of his father.
He has been a beacon of excellence in a struggling team.
He has given everything to the cause. He has done it without moaning and without agitating for a move. He exudes class off the pitch and on it.
There are plenty of others for whom you could say the same.
My top five this season are Parker, Luka Modric, Jack Wilshere, Nemanja Vidic and John Terry.
So here's a tip for Nani. When you play at Upton Park on Saturday, try to stay on your feet for a couple of minutes.
And while you're there, take a look at how Scott Parker goes about his business.
You never know, you might learn something.
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Posted By: erimus
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2011 at 4:59am
Adam,Vidic & Bale should be nowhere near that
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Posted By: Roberto Baggio
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2011 at 5:01am
erimus wrote:
Adam,Vidic & Bale should be nowhere near that |
i dont think Bale should, the other 2 i agree with being shortlisted
Has Bale done anything since November? and his best performances were in the CL anyway
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Posted By: FREEWHEELER
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2011 at 5:05am
Nani on the shortlist? Would yiz get a grip........., he has improved but nowhere near enough to get on the list.
My choices would be Tevez and Coleman to win.
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Posted By: Vivakenbarlow
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2011 at 5:10am
Would be fairly comical if a player from a relegated team won player of the year
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Posted By: t_rAndy
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2011 at 5:14am
Jaysus the senior list is shocking!
Nani should in the hunt to win the thing!
Van Der Vaart?
Berbatov is the top scorer too so should be considered compared to others.
Also, Van Der Sar as well considering Giggs won it last year because of his age and only started 12 games or something, if they applied the same rule to VDS who has played for the majority of the season at a top level.
The young player is decent and about right, apart from Hernandez's ommission.
Suppose, these nominations are done around January, that's the problem.
Don't know why it is not in the last few weeks.
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Posted By: Vivakenbarlow
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2011 at 5:21am
Hernandez not even on the short list for young player of the year- joke- look at the amount of goals he has scored in his first season
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Posted By: packiesglove
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2011 at 5:52am
close thing between tevez and parker
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Posted By: Roberto Baggio
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2011 at 6:03am
Vivakenbarlow wrote:
Hernandez not even on the short list for young player of the year- joke- look at the amount of goals he has scored in his first season |
Vivakenbarlows PFA shortlist - Vidic, Van Der Sar, Nani, Berbatov, Giggs and Evra
Vivakenbarlows young player of the year shortlist - Nani, Rafael, Hernandez, Smalling, Welbeck and Fabio
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Posted By: Vivakenbarlow
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2011 at 6:11am
Roberto Baggio wrote:
Vivakenbarlow wrote:
Hernandez not even on the short list for young player of the year- joke- look at the amount of goals he has scored in his first season |
Vivakenbarlows PFA shortlist - Vidic, Van Der Sar, Nani, Berbatov, Giggs and Evra
Vivakenbarlows young player of the year shortlist - Nani, Rafael, Hernandez, Smalling, Welbeck and Fabio |
You saying hernandez doesnt even deserve to be in contention for the young player?
Look how many important goals he has scored already!
Cant be easy settling into the epl coming from the mexican league either- absolute joke
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Posted By: Roberto Baggio
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2011 at 6:22am
Vivakenbarlow wrote:
Roberto Baggio wrote:
Vivakenbarlow wrote:
Hernandez not even on the short list for young player of the year- joke- look at the amount of goals he has scored in his first season |
Vivakenbarlows PFA shortlist - Vidic, Van Der Sar, Nani, Berbatov, Giggs and Evra
Vivakenbarlows young player of the year shortlist - Nani, Rafael, Hernandez, Smalling, Welbeck and Fabio |
You saying hernandez doesnt even deserve to be in contention for the young player?
Look how many important goals he has scored already!
Cant be easy settling into the epl coming from the mexican league either- absolute joke |
im not sure he should be in contention, the others have started a lot more games i would guess? but he has had a good debut season from the little time he has had on the field, actually i'd probably have him on the shortlist ahead of Bale, take out the two Inter CL games and Bale wouldn't be getting mentioned
im just laughing as you continue to be unbelievably blinkered towards United in 90% of your posts on here
Poor United, theyre even being victimised in the end of season awards now
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Posted By: Vivakenbarlow
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2011 at 6:36am
Bale has 7 league goals and 1 assist
People are completely blinkered by the hat trick he scored in a game they lost in the san siro!
Nani has 9 league goals and 13 assists- the most assists in the league this year!
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Posted By: Carmody 10
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2011 at 6:55am
Parker and Wilshere
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Posted By: nvidic
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2011 at 6:59am
van der vaart wouldve been on that if he handt been injured, had a tenner on him at 10/1 for this
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Posted By: Gaz
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2011 at 7:02am
nani and van der vaart should defo be on the list
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Posted By: Vivakenbarlow
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2011 at 7:09am
Bale
Goals: 7
Assists: 1
Nominated
Nani
Goals: 9
Assists: 16
Not nominated
Nasri
Goals: 9
Assists: 1
Nominated
Berbatov
Goals: 20 (top goalscorer)
Assists: 2
Not nominated
Tevez
Goals: 19 (5 pens)
Assists: 1
Nominated
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Posted By: packiesglove
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2011 at 7:24am
bale is not even spurs player of the year, that man is luca modric, but a few CL games do you the power of good. van der vaart has been quality at walking down the tunnel during games like a spoilt child, it is a TEAM game
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Posted By: BigStrongMan
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2011 at 7:25am
Wilshire+Bale both over hyped british players,nothing new there yes Wilshire is a good player with big potential but exactly has he done this year to deserve to win this award can any one tell me?
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Posted By: Clonbhoy
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2011 at 7:41am
Siralex wrote:
Roberto Baggio wrote:
Siralex wrote:
It just goes to show.....players haven't a foookin clue abut the game! That list is laughable! |
as a self-proclaimed know all, what would your lists be? |
I ain't fan of individual awards within a team game, but if you're looking for the top 6 players who performed to their best this season, I'd have picked
Edwin van der Sar
Gary Cahill
Scott Parker
Nani
Rafa van der Vaart
Carlos Tevez
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Would agree with that list although Nasri would be unlucky to miss out,with Parker winning it. He hasa proved himself to be the ultimate professional this season. I think Nan's atttitude is disgraceful but his influence on results means it is crazy not to nominate him. And can someone please explain to me the hype over coco monkey? I just cannot get it at all
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Posted By: IrishPride
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2011 at 8:20am
Scott Parker for me. Has basically kept West ham within touching distance of safety on his own. Drives the whole team plays with so much passion and desire.
Nani has played well this season but no where near player of the year,
Wilshere for young player of the year
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Posted By: Emerald
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2011 at 8:24am
Nasri and Coleman for me.
But my prediction is that Vidic and Wilshere will win.
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Posted By: Vivakenbarlow
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2011 at 8:24am
BigStrongMan wrote:
Wilshire+Bale both over hyped british players,nothing new thereyes Wilshire is a good player with big potential but exactly has he done this year to deserve to win this award can any one tell me?
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+1
Wilshere is decent but the english go on about him like he is gonna be the next xavi- over rated
Bale is incredibly over hyped- if you take away the 2 games against inter he hasnt done an awful lot in the league- 80 million
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Posted By: Roberto Baggio
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2011 at 8:27am
Tevez and Nani for me
no outstanding candidates this year, pretty dull lot in my opinion
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Posted By: PhilliyK
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2011 at 8:27am
Does the player have to be epl based as surely Taarabt has done a lot more for qpr this year than some on the list.
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Posted By: Clonbhoy
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2011 at 8:30am
Vivakenbarlow wrote:
BigStrongMan wrote:
Wilshire+Bale both over hyped british players,nothing new thereyes Wilshire is a good player with big potential but exactly has he done this year to deserve to win this award can any one tell me?
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+1
Wilshere is decent but the english go on about him like he is gonna be the next xavi- over rated
Bale is incredibly over hyped- if you take away the 2 games against inter he hasnt done an awful lot in the league- 80 million |
Spot on about Bale but I would adjust it to a game and a half.Was he playing the first half in the San Siro? Though I do think Wislshere does look class they still seem to be misreading the type of player he is and keep going on that England should deploy him further forward, 'like Arsenal do'.You only see him in the opposition box for Arsenal in home games against teams who sit deep. He is a deep lying thoughtful midfielder and will have a good career. He is not the new Xavi Hernandez!
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Posted By: Vivakenbarlow
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2011 at 8:32am
Roberto Baggio wrote:
Tevez and Nani for me
no outstanding candidates this year, pretty dull lot in my opinion |
Youre not far off with that assesment
Sure charlie adam couldnt get his game in centre mid for rangers ffs
Might be as a result of the world cup that the better players have failed to perform this season- sure look at fabregas- very patchy form this year
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Posted By: Siralex
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2011 at 9:29am
Anyone got Charlie Adam's goals/ssists to hand....I'm out and about and my internet on the iPhone is very slow. If someone can post em up here I'd appreciate it! Cheers.
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Posted By: Clonbhoy
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2011 at 9:34am
think it is 9 goals and 6 assists
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Posted By: The Boy Z
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2011 at 9:37am
Nani has been the best player in the league this season,wonder who will get the football writers award..
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Posted By: Siralex
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2011 at 9:39am
Clonbhoy wrote:
think it is 9 goals and 6 assists
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Thanks Clonbhoy! Super return in fairness from 28 games.
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Posted By: Clonbhoy
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2011 at 9:52am
Siralex wrote:
Clonbhoy wrote:
think it is 9 goals and 6 assists
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Thanks Clonbhoy! Super return in fairness from 28 games.
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Think I saw a stat somewhere with the amount that have come as a result of his set pieces and it is more impressive
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Posted By: heyirish
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2011 at 9:52am
Vivakenbarlow wrote:
Roberto Baggio wrote:
Tevez and Nani for me
no outstanding candidates this year, pretty dull lot in my opinion |
Youre not far off with that assesment
Sure charlie adam couldnt get his game in centre mid for rangers ffs
Might be as a result of the world cup that the better players have failed to perform this season- sure look at fabregas- very patchy form this year |
well u cant really use that logic because you want hernandez for young player of the year, or nominated at least, and he hadnt scored a goal in 2 years for some mexican 2nd division crowd before he joined united.
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Posted By: Siralex
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2011 at 10:00am
heyirish wrote:
Vivakenbarlow wrote:
Roberto Baggio wrote:
Tevez and Nani for me
no outstanding candidates this year, pretty dull lot in my opinion |
Youre not far off with that assesment
Sure charlie adam couldnt get his game in centre mid for rangers ffs
Might be as a result of the world cup that the better players have failed to perform this season- sure look at fabregas- very patchy form this year |
well u cant really use that logic because you want hernandez for young player of the year, or nominated at least, and he hadnt scored a goal in 2 years for some mexican 2nd division crowd before he joined united.
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While I completely agree with you that Barlow's point about what Charlie Adams did at Rangers 2 years ago is completely moot and, in the main, a ridiculous point (barlow NEVER makes a good point - (check out teh Rooney 2 match ban thread for a great example)), I have to call you up on your stats about Javier Hernandez.
The lil Pea - as they call him back home - finished as the joint-third top scorer, with eleven goals in seventeen appearances in the 2009 Apertura. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Javier_Hern%C3%A1ndez_Balc%C3%A1zar#cite_note-3 - He started the 2010 Bicentenario in Mexico with eight goals in five games. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Javier_Hern%C3%A1ndez_Balc%C3%A1zar#cite_note-4 - He finished as a joint-leader in the goalscoring chart for the Bicentenario with ten goals in eleven games. In total, you said he didn't score in two seaosn - he scored 24 goals in those two seasons for Guadlahara - who do NOT play in the second division. Time to get a new statatician me thinks HeyIrish! Try hiring one that can count!
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Posted By: heyirish
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2011 at 10:11am
http://www.topnews.in/sports/new-man-u-star-hernandez-nearly-quit-football-after-failing-mexico-s-first-division-213789 - http://www.topnews.in/sports/new-man-u-star-hernandez-nearly-quit-football-after-failing-mexico-s-first-division-213789
fair enough directly before he went to united yours stats are right but in the 2 years before you mention he hadnt scored in 2 years
bottom line is saying adam shouldnt be player of the year due to not getting a game for rangers is wrong imo
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Posted By: Roberto Baggio
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2011 at 10:14am
heyirish wrote:
http://www.topnews.in/sports/new-man-u-star-hernandez-nearly-quit-football-after-failing-mexico-s-first-division-213789 - http://www.topnews.in/sports/new-man-u-star-hernandez-nearly-quit-football-after-failing-mexico-s-first-division-213789
fair enough directly before he went to united yours stats are right but in the 2 years before you mention he hadnt scored in 2 years
bottom line is saying adam shouldnt be player of the year due to not getting a game for rangers is wrong imo |
he would have been very young 4 or 5 years ago though i would imagine
yeah it was a completely wrong point to begin with about Adam
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Posted By: Vivakenbarlow
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2011 at 10:17am
Fair enough my comment on adam in his rangers days was a little trivial but the stats i highlighted cant be ignored-(yet they have been)- certain players on that list of nominees are majorly over rated
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Posted By: ShamtheRam
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2011 at 10:18am
Nani wont win.
I can't imagine him being too popular amongst his fellow pro's.
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Posted By: heyirish
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2011 at 10:25am
agree re bale - still living off inter milan
Depends in which context you look at these nominations. Considering the players Charlie Adam has around him I think he is arguably player of the year. People say Scott Parker has west hem where they are on his own but if Charlie Adam wasnt with Blackpool firstly they would never have got up and secondly would already be back down whereas some like nani and tevez etc have brilliant players around him to help give them more oppurtunities.
The manager of the year is similar. Some parts of the media think Ollie Hollway should be manager of the year for doing what he has done with players, budget etc but Utd are top of the league so surely Ferguson should be manager of the year.
thats why the likes of Adam and Parker are on the list and deserve to be. Stats dont tell you the full story. 40% of people know that
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Posted By: Vivakenbarlow
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2011 at 10:29am
heyirish wrote:
agree re bale - still living off inter milan
Depends in which context you look at these nominations. Considering the players Charlie Adam has around him I think he is arguably player of the year. People say Scott Parker has west hem where they are on his own but if Charlie Adam wasnt with Blackpool firstly they would never have got up and secondly would already be back down whereas some like nani and tevez etc have brilliant players around him to help give them more oppurtunities.
The manager of the year is similar. Some parts of the media think Ollie Hollway should be manager of the year for doing what he has done with players, budget etc but Utd are top of the league so surely Ferguson should be manager of the year.
thats why the likes of Adam and Parker are on the list and deserve to be. Stats dont tell you the full story. 40% of people know that |
If your looking at it from the point of view of how important the player is to the team then nani and tevez are very important
Tevez has scored almost 50% of citys goals in the league ffs, nani has directly contributed to 25 league goals in a united shirt!
Even without basing it on stats you could argue that its easier to stand out in a team of inferior players like blackpool than in a team like united or city
Although i wouldnt apply this to scott parker- he has had a great season for west ham- he has carried that team at times he puts in 100% every week which is more than can be said for some of those west ham players ( carlton cole) etc
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Posted By: heyirish
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2011 at 10:33am
Vivakenbarlow wrote:
heyirish wrote:
agree re bale - still living off inter milan
Depends in which context you look at these nominations. Considering the players Charlie Adam has around him I think he is arguably player of the year. People say Scott Parker has west hem where they are on his own but if Charlie Adam wasnt with Blackpool firstly they would never have got up and secondly would already be back down whereas some like nani and tevez etc have brilliant players around him to help give them more oppurtunities.
The manager of the year is similar. Some parts of the media think Ollie Hollway should be manager of the year for doing what he has done with players, budget etc but Utd are top of the league so surely Ferguson should be manager of the year.
thats why the likes of Adam and Parker are on the list and deserve to be. Stats dont tell you the full story. 40% of people know that |
If your looking at it from the point of view of how important the player is to the team then nani and tevez are very important
Tevez has scored almost 50% of citys goals in the league ffs, nani has directly contributed to 25 league goals in a united shirt!
Even without basing it on stats you could argue that its easier to stand out in a team of inferior players like blackpool than in a team like united or city
Although i wouldnt apply this to scott parker- he has had a great season for west ham- he has carried that team at times he puts in 100% every week which is more than can be said for some of those west ham players ( carlton cole) etc |
I agree with that but my point is look at the players they have around them compred to Parker & Adam. Would Nani have contributed directly to 25 goals if he was playing with Blackpool
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Posted By: ChiefGooner
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2011 at 7:03pm
Vivakenbarlow wrote:
BigStrongMan wrote:
Wilshire+Bale both over hyped british players,nothing new thereyes Wilshire is a good player with big potential but exactly has he done this year to deserve to win this award can any one tell me?
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+1
Wilshere is decent but the english go on about him like he is gonna be the next xavi- over rated
Bale is incredibly over hyped- if you take away the 2 games against inter he hasnt done an awful lot in the league- 80 million |
I can tell you what he's done, he's been the best young player in the EPL.
As for barstool calling him 'decent' and 'over rated' I suggest you watch games other than moanu ones
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Posted By: Vivakenbarlow
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2011 at 6:47am
ChiefGooner wrote:
Vivakenbarlow wrote:
BigStrongMan wrote:
Wilshire+Bale both over hyped british players,nothing new thereyes Wilshire is a good player with big potential but exactly has he done this year to deserve to win this award can any one tell me? | +1 Wilshere is decent but the english go on about him like he is gonna be the next xavi- over rated Bale is incredibly over hyped- if you take away the 2 games against inter he hasnt done an awful lot in the league- 80 million |
I can tell you what he's done, he's been the best young player in the EPL.
As for barstool calling him 'decent' and 'over rated' I suggest you watch games other than moanu ones |
I watch plenty of football other than united games
I go to plenty of ireland and united games home and away
Been to a la liga game and am hoping to get to another one when im over there at the end of the month
I have seen wilshere play loads of times for arsenal and england- never said he was crap or didnt have potential but he is over hyped as most english footballers are
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Posted By: t_rAndy
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2011 at 8:52am
Bale could win. The Premiership players vote, not journalists/fans. They'll get a list of people and not put too much thought into it. They'll see Bale and say "yeah great player, brilliant against Inter Milan" and vote for him. Even though it wasn't even a league game which is what the award should be based on.
Can see it going to Tevez and Bale
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Posted By: BabbsBalls
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2011 at 10:13am
Been a poor season regarding individuals and the list proves it. Charlie Adam well deserves his place in it . How people can think otherwise is beyond me. Tevez has been the best though this year for me. Yes he's a tramp and a gypsy but he has weighed in with plenty of goals/assists . There is no harder working player in World football.
Wilshere will win the young player award as he is English and they will continue to wank over him. . Big praise goes to our own Seamus Coleman , Sligo Rovers to one of the best talents in England in 2 years
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Posted By: Roberto Baggio
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2011 at 6:14am
Looks like the initial reports that were leaked on Monday were wrong
Van Der Vaart is in the PFA shortlist, and Hernandez is on the list for young player award
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Posted By: ChiefGooner
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2011 at 7:46am
BabbsBalls wrote:
Been a poor season regarding individuals and the list proves it. Charlie Adam well deserves his place in it . How people can think otherwise is beyond me. Tevez has been the best though this year for me. Yes he's a tramp and a gypsy but he has weighed in with plenty of goals/assists . There is no harder working player in World football.
Wilshere will win the young player award as he is English and they will continue to wank over him. . Big praise goes to our own Seamus Coleman , Sligo Rovers to one of the best talents in England in 2 years
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Wilshere will win it because he's been the best young player in the premiership, end of.
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Posted By: BigStrongMan
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2011 at 8:00am
ChiefGooner wrote:
BabbsBalls wrote:
Been a poor season regarding individuals and the list proves it. Charlie Adam well deserves his place in it . How people can think otherwise is beyond me. Tevez has been the best though this year for me. Yes he's a tramp and a gypsy but he has weighed in with plenty of goals/assists . There is no harder working player in World football.
Wilshere will win the young player award as he is English and they will continue to wank over him. . Big praise goes to our own Seamus Coleman , Sligo Rovers to one of the best talents in England in 2 years
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Wilshere will win it because he's been the best young player in the premiership, end of. | more Arsenal bias from chiefgooner,and you saying Neville will be biased
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Posted By: t_rAndy
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2011 at 9:26am
at least the real list is a lot more respectable. Do think Van Der Sar deserves to be in there also though
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Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2011 at 12:05pm
Hernandez will go close in the Young Player award IMO
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Posted By: Siralex
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2011 at 12:16pm
Denis Irwin wrote:
Hernandez will go close in the Young Player award IMO |
There's no way he can win it, sure two of the lads nominated for Young Player of the Year are also nominated for actual Player Of The Year, so one of them will obviously bag the gong.
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Posted By: Ireland4ever
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2011 at 12:29pm
Siralex wrote:
Denis Irwin wrote:
Hernandez will go close in the Young Player award IMO |
There's no way he can win it, sure two of the lads nominated for Young Player of the Year are also nominated for actual Player Of The Year, so one of them will obviously bag the gong. |
AM i missing something? Hernandez is not on the list.
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Posted By: Siralex
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2011 at 12:30pm
He's on the official list - just not on Baggio's list.
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Posted By: Mr.Mojo Risin'
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2011 at 12:58pm
PFA Player of the Year Nominees
Gareth Bale
Rafael Van der Vaart
Samir Nasri
Nemanja Vidic
Carlos Tevez
Charlie Adam
Scott Parker
PFA Young Player of the Year Nominees
Gareth Bale
Samir Nasri
Seamus Coleman
Jack Wilshere
Joe Hart
Nani
Javier Hernandez
There we go, just to avoid confusion that's the official lists.
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Posted By: t_rAndy
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2011 at 3:11pm
was there 7 nominees for each catagory last year? Or did they add VDV to the senior and Hernandez to the Young after the reaction people gave to the leaked lists?
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Posted By: Roberto Baggio
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2011 at 4:20pm
Siralex wrote:
He's on the official list - just not on Baggio's list. |
yes i corrected that out this afternoon
the daily mail shortlists that were leaked on monday didnt include hernandez or van der vaart and only had 6 nominees for each award
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Posted By: Chopra Gunner
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2011 at 7:22pm
Its actually ridiculous that Bale is the fave for the player of the year award, he hasnt done anything spectacular in the premier league. His best performances came in europe like.
Its also a joke that Nani isnt on the senior list, his most productive season ever. 12 goals and 13+ assists in all competitions. Only gets a young player nomination, he's 24 I believe.
Robin Van Persie should also be on that list, only came back in january and has got himself around 13 goals. Pretty good return. Arsenal need him firing more than Fabregas or anyone else.
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Posted By: Vivakenbarlow
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2011 at 5:19am
Nani saying how disapointed he was not to even make the pfa shortlist
He now has 18 assists in the league
Bale has 1 assist this season in the league
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Posted By: Ireland4ever
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2011 at 5:56am
The reason Nani isnt on the list is because of his behaviour, he needs to grow up and stop acting the maggot. Conversely when Giggs won the gong he won it partly due to the fact that he comes across as a proper professional, none of the bullsh*t that you associate with Nani.
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Posted By: ScruffyR
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2011 at 6:24am
Nasri all the way,what a player
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Posted By: Carmody 10
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2011 at 6:59am
Nasri/Parker and Wilshire/Nani
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Posted By: horsebox
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2011 at 7:42am
Vivakenbarlow wrote:
Nani saying how disapointed he was not to even make the pfa shortlist
He now has 18 assists in the league
Bale has 1 assist this season in the league |
Nani was'nt selected because he is a selfish whinging,diving little runt.
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Posted By: ShamtheRam
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2011 at 9:02am
Ireland4ever wrote:
The reason Nani isnt on the list is because of his behaviour, he needs to grow up and stop acting the maggot. Conversely when Giggs won the gong he won it partly due to the fact that he comes across as a proper professional, none of the bullsh*t that you associate with Nani. |
I would agree.
Nani's fellow pro's would not have voted for him
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Posted By: Vivakenbarlow
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2011 at 10:12am
No matter what way you look at it nani not getting voted in is farcical
The year giggs won it he made 11 league starts ffs im sure he would admit himself that wasnt his best season
Ginola won it the season united won a treble which hadnt been achieved before or since
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Posted By: Siralex
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2011 at 10:13am
Vivakenbarlow wrote:
No matter what way you look at it nani not getting voted in is farcical
The year giggs won it he made 11 league starts ffs im sure he would admit himself that wasnt his best season
Ginola won it the season united won a treble which hadnt been achieved before or since |
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Posted By: Roberto Baggio
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2011 at 10:21am
Vivakenbarlow wrote:
No matter what way you look at it nani not getting voted in is farcical
The year giggs won it he made 11 league starts ffs im sure he would admit himself that wasnt his best season
Ginola won it the season united won a treble which hadnt been achieved before or since |
Jesus, hard to believe you are still crying about that year Ginola won it, must have been 10 years ago now?
does the award really mean that much to supporters?
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Posted By: Mr.Mojo Risin'
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2011 at 5:44pm
In fairness the award lost all credibility when Giggs won it last year. That's what I would call farcical.
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Posted By: The Drifter
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2011 at 6:05pm
bale in the list?? absolute joke, he's had a couple of good games but by and large he has been average. nani has been a much better player this season. fantasy football is actually a really good indicator of how good a player has been. nani is top of the midfielders list and bale is nearly 22 places behind. speaks for itself
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Posted By: ScruffyR
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2011 at 6:11pm
CPS89 wrote:
bale in the list?? absolute joke, he's had a couple of good games but by and large he has been average. nani has been a much better player this season. fantasy football is actually a really good indicator of how good a player has been. nani is top of the midfielders list and bale is nearly 22 places behind. speaks for itself |
+1, Even though i am a spurs fan i really dont think bale should be in it at all, the media just hype it up hugely when ever he does something good.Like i have seen every spurs game this season and i cant understand why he can do what he did aganist inter and then fail to do it aganist teams in the relegation zone in the premiership Serious lack of consistency
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Posted By: Roberto Baggio
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2011 at 5:32am
Bale and Wilshere then
perhaps if it was player of the CL group stages id accept Bale, but he hasnt even been Tottenhams best player overall this season
not many complaints with the team of the season other than that Baines should have been at left back
How Shane Long never made the championship team is bizarre
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Posted By: ShamtheRam
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2011 at 6:23am
Gareth Bale rewarded for his excellent Champions League performences with the PFA Player of the Year!.....the Player of the Year award really is a joke at this stage.
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Posted By: ScruffyR
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2011 at 6:55am
He didnt really deserve it but ,fair play gareth
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Posted By: Chopra Gunner
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2011 at 7:19am
Wilshere deserved the young player award but its a joke Bale got the senior player award.
Bale is 21, and won the senior award with 2 good performances in europe.
Nani is 24, and only got a YOUNG player nomination, with an incredible season.
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Posted By: tribalarmy
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2011 at 7:37am
Bale is the best player in the league but he isn't the best young player in the league.
Joke of an award.
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Posted By: MintBerryCrunch
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2011 at 8:27am
I think the last two years have shown this is a joke of an award
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Posted By: ShamtheRam
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2011 at 8:32am
PFA award is for premier league performences yet Bale win sit for his European performences....joke!
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Posted By: erimus
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2011 at 8:39am
Chopra Gunner wrote:
Wilshere deserved the young player award but its a joke Bale got the senior player award.
Bale is 21, and won the senior award with 2 good performances in europe.
Nani is 24, and only got a YOUNG player nomination, with an incredible season. |
The fact that hes probably one of the most hated players in the league,would have cost him that
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Posted By: tribalarmy
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2011 at 8:44am
Roberto Baggio wrote:
How Shane Long never made the championship team is bizarre |
Graham with 24 goals and Holt with 20 goals made the team. Long has scored 21. The votes were cast around a month or two ago, this was only when Long was hitting form. At the time I'd say he only had around 15 goals and Reading would have been down in 7th or 8th.
A good example as to why the voting should be done after the season ended.
Graham and Holt still have had excellent seasons, can't complain too much.
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Posted By: Bob Hoskins
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2011 at 10:49am
Who decides the shortlist of players?
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Posted By: tribalarmy
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2011 at 2:17pm
Bob Hoskins wrote:
Who decides the shortlist of players?
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The players vote AFAIK.
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Posted By: Chopra Gunner
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2011 at 2:28pm
erimus wrote:
Chopra Gunner wrote:
Wilshere deserved the young player award but its a joke Bale got the senior player award.
Bale is 21, and won the senior award with 2 good performances in europe.
Nani is 24, and only got a YOUNG player nomination, with an incredible season. |
The fact that hes probably one of the most hated players in the league,would have cost him that |
You've sort of missed my point, Bale is 21 and won the senior award with only 2 good games in europe.. he didnt get the young player award for some reason, makes no sense. Surely if he is good enough to win the senior award then he must get the young one also.
Nani is 24, and was nominated for the young player award, which is for under 23s I believe? If he was nominated for this then clearly people are voting for him. Its his most productive season ever. Hes contributed to at least 25 goals directly this season and played a part in some others. Cristiano Ronaldo produced the good even though he was a hate figure and got the awards.
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Posted By: flick
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2011 at 4:27pm
paddy kenny ian harte and wes houlihan in championship team of the year
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Posted By: ShamtheRam
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2011 at 4:56pm
flick wrote:
paddy kenny ian harte and wes houlihan in championship team of the year
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sure none of them are in the ireland squad.....who gives a sh*t?
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Posted By: t_rAndy
Date Posted: 19 Apr 2011 at 10:12am
As predicted by myself, Bale won the award (well I said he could win in). Basically the players get a list of names to vote from. They are not really going to analyse it, they'll just think "Bale, great player, brilliant in the CL", then vote for him. Even though he hasn't achieved anything this season in the Premier League. Think the football writers award which is done after the season has finished is a more respectable award since it is done by sports writers who actually analyse the season.
Obviously nice for Bale his fellow professionals have voted for him. But it's more to do with how the media have hyped him up rather than actually deserving it. Nani should have won the senior player award, he wasn't even on the list! Then he doesn't even get the young player of the year award, because Wilshere is the media's love child. Great silly that he pips Nani who was in the same list.
Then you have the team of the year. Charlie Adam was shortlisted for the player of the year, then doesn't even make the XI!!!
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Posted By: Absolutely Use
Date Posted: 19 Apr 2011 at 3:54pm
Its Scott Parker for me, he has been immence again this year for the hammers, kept them up single handidly, the rest of the hammers line up should be ashamemed of then selves. They have a few England internationals Green, Bridge, Upson, Dyer and Cole along with numerous other internationals and to see a team like this struggle..... something is very wrong
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Posted By: Mr.Mojo Risin'
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2011 at 6:09pm
Raul Meireles has won the PFA Fans PLayer of the Year
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_6888258,00.html - http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_6888258,00.html
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Posted By: Chopra Gunner
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2011 at 9:13pm
Van persie should've been nominated also, returned in January and has scored 16 in 16 I believe.
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Posted By: nvidic
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2011 at 12:03am
how can you decide player of the season before the season ends anyway?! poor poor decision
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Posted By: Roberto Baggio
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2011 at 3:09am
Mr.Mojo Risin' wrote:
Raul Meireles has won the PFA Fans PLayer of the Year
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_6888258,00.html - http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_6888258,00.html |
the fact that David Luiz was 4th in this says it all about the award
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Posted By: Citizen
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2011 at 4:16am
packiesglove wrote:
bale is not even spurs player of the year, that man is luca modric, but a few CL games do you the power of good. van der vaart has been quality at walking down the tunnel during games like a spoilt child, it is a TEAM game | spot on mate..re modric, been the fulchrum...also re Van Der Vaart has been awful in alot of games after a very bright start, he has blown hot and cold for the most part, and his petulant attitude wil no doubt cause problems in the future. Personally i thought Tevez should have been given it. Has been
about the best imo. Nani has done well too. Just looking through the fromer teams of the year on Wiki...and brought me back to 1999 season, when Keane didnt even get on the team of the year, and ginola got the PFA award.. farce is not the word
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Posted By: ShamtheRam
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2011 at 4:19am
Mr.Mojo Risin' wrote:
Raul Meireles has won the PFA Fans PLayer of the Year
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_6888258,00.html - http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_6888258,00.html |
He should be embarrassed to pick up the award.......obviously done by way of some sort of internet campaign.....he didn't kick a ball until Hodgson left.
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Posted By: Roberto Baggio
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2011 at 4:24am
Scott Parker got the writers award
Think his season has been a little overrated because he's english
His team are going to be relegated afterall
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Posted By: flick
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2011 at 5:37am
Roberto Baggio wrote:
Scott Parker got the writers award
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Think his season has been a little overrated because he's english
His team are going to be relegated afterall |
Don't think so we would be relegated already if it wasn't for Parker but as good as he is one man can't carry 10 others. Super player well deserved award
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Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2011 at 7:24am
Bale finished 2nd
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Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2011 at 7:36am
Mr.Mojo Risin' wrote:
Raul Meireles has won the PFA Fans PLayer of the Year
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_6888258,00.html - http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_6888258,00.html |
Absolute joke
So if we're to believe the players,journos and fans, Parker,Bale and Merieles are the 3 best players in the league
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Posted By: Mr.Mojo Risin'
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2011 at 8:35am
Meireles for World Player of the Year next season
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