Ronaldo
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Topic: Ronaldo
Posted By: The Count
Subject: Ronaldo
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2011 at 6:16pm
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25 games this season = 27 goals 31st on all time top scorers list for Real  ------------- 
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Posted By: ShamtheRam
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2011 at 6:25pm
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Messi has a similar yet better record. 24 games this season = 27 goals 5th on Barca's all time list and he's only 23! ------------- YBIG NPF founder and CEO |
Posted By: Vivakenbarlow
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2011 at 6:32pm
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Messi has been at barca his whole career! Might be a reason hes higher up their all time scorers list!
46 goals in 46 la liga games for ronaldo ------------- It took City 44 years to win the league and 10 months to lose it |
Posted By: Ireland4ever
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2011 at 7:07pm
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Two pehomenons of the modern game. |
Posted By: Gaz
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2011 at 10:30pm
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Staggering statistics there! Real and barca are running amok this year in that league. 2 unbelievable talents messi and ronaldo.. ------------- I dont email the count anymore, its been 9 months : ( He even sent me a YBIG scarf for my Birthday |
Posted By: Carmody 10
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2011 at 11:17pm
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For me, Ronaldo is going to be stuck in Messi's shadow forever, A pity really because he is an unbelieveable footballer. ------------- Out of order |
Posted By: Roberto Baggio
Date Posted: 04 Jan 2011 at 3:06am
| another Messi v Ronaldo thread - just what we are missing on ROW section |
Posted By: Carmody 10
Date Posted: 04 Jan 2011 at 3:11am
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May aswell throw Wayne into the mix aswell considiring he's back among the goals. ------------- Out of order |
Posted By: AndyMc
Date Posted: 04 Jan 2011 at 5:56am
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Posted By: MrFantastico
Date Posted: 04 Jan 2011 at 4:37pm
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the great ronaldo has it all,good looks great talent hes a lone parent but still manages to survive hes a true gent aswell a modern day hero if you will ------------- We hate princess diana, we hate elton john too, we hate orange bastards but rovers we love you. KOH |
Posted By: criostoir Óg
Date Posted: 04 Jan 2011 at 5:25pm
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Carmody 10 wrote:Posted By: IrishPride
Date Posted: 04 Jan 2011 at 7:02pm
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Posted By: BigStrongMan
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2011 at 5:05am
| got a few more last night |
Posted By: Ireland4ever
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2011 at 5:16am
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A hat-trick no less. What a f*cking player. |
Posted By: Vivakenbarlow
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2011 at 7:31am
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Imagine ronaldo and messi played in the same team
You could almost bank on them banging in 70-80 goals a season between them! ------------- It took City 44 years to win the league and 10 months to lose it |
Posted By: tribalarmy
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2011 at 7:52am
Easily 70-80. Eto'o, Henry and Messi got over 100 between them in 08. They are two unbelievable players, it'll be a while before we see another of the same calibre. Ronaldo has so much to thank Fergie and the people at United for what they did for him. There were loads of kids like him that just didn't make it, and pissed away their careers. Eg. Quaresma, Jaoquin etc.. One of his greatest attributes is his desire to be the best, and I'd say Fergie had a big role to play in this. The physical condition he is in is unreal. If he wasn't that athletic he wouldn't be half the player he is. |
Posted By: Bob Hoskins
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2011 at 7:56am
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what's his goals tally for the season at now? ------------- Romario 2016: And the ticket mafia gets caught! Well, four years ago I had already told the government. |
Posted By: t_rAndy
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2011 at 8:05am
| What a player. As said his and Messi's records are unreal |
Posted By: Ireland4ever
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2011 at 8:22am
| He's on 22/23 league goals depening on which source you read. |
Posted By: BigStrongMan
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2011 at 8:23am
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22 is what i read in 18games i think in la liga
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Posted By: Siralex
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2011 at 8:24am
 Jesus Sweet Christ Al-f**king-mighty! What way do people actually watch the game? Do they honestly think that if Ronaldo and Messi played in the same team then they would each be scoring two goals a game? That they would both be as influential in the same team as they are in their current positions? f**king hell! The basics of the game is really lost on some people. Football Manager has a lot to answer for!!! |
Posted By: BigStrongMan
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2011 at 8:28am
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Ronaldo,Messi+Drogba would score 180 goals if in the same team if not more ------------- PM me for all forum moderation queries. |
Posted By: Roberto Baggio
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2011 at 8:29am
 laugh out loud material
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Posted By: tribalarmy
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2011 at 8:33am
In 2008/09 Messi and Eto'o scored 74 goals between them. You absolute thick. |
Posted By: Ireland4ever
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2011 at 8:34am
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Posted By: BigStrongMan
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2011 at 8:36am
 
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Posted By: Vivakenbarlow
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2011 at 8:40am
Spot on They would be a devastating! Imagine villa or higuain playing in a 4 3 3 formation with messi and ronaldo- it would be unreal ------------- It took City 44 years to win the league and 10 months to lose it |
Posted By: Siralex
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2011 at 8:43am
Tribal mate, you aren't even getting my point. Embarrassing! So Ronaldo and Messi scored 74 goals between them, hey, in the same team? You f**kin' moron - I'm mortified for you. Read my post ye f**kin' gobsh*te! What an utter, utter, utter tool! I'd say your ma's embarrassed for you for posting thet! WHat a twat! |
Posted By: Vivakenbarlow
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2011 at 8:44am
But for some mystical reason only known to siralex messi and ronaldo could never gel in the same team and having them in the same team would automatically somehow take away from their individual brilliance for some reason I cant believe i was so downright braindead to suggest otherwise All of siralexs nieces and nephews must be 100,000 times smarter than me ------------- It took City 44 years to win the league and 10 months to lose it |
Posted By: Vivakenbarlow
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2011 at 8:46am
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So Siralex, you are trying to credibly suggest that you can definitively ensure without a shadow of a doubt that messi and ronaldo wouldnt score anywhere near as many goals as they currently do if they played in the same team?
Can you gaze into that crystal ball a little deeper and send me on the lotto numbers- Cheers ------------- It took City 44 years to win the league and 10 months to lose it |
Posted By: Siralex
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2011 at 8:49am
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I didn't say they couldn't gel in the same team you f**kin uber moron Viva. And let me tell you - as thick as Baggio and Horsey and Tribal are.....you are the dumbest gobsh*te I've ever come across when it comes to ball! You just don't seem to understand the f**king game at all! Would Ronnie and Messi work in the same team, I'd say it's likely if the team was built around a wide system with Ronnie wide left and Messi wide right. But would they both separately be as influential as they are in their current positions, banging in two goals a game and being the vocal point of finishing? How is that even possible? Look at how Rooney shone after Ronaldo left. Do you understand how that works? One person has to be the main man. Expecting Messi and Ronaldo to be as influential as they are now if they were put in the same team is Football Manager bullsh*t! One of them would have to take the mantle. The two of them wouldn't be scoring goals for fun! What a moron. |
Posted By: tribalarmy
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2011 at 8:51am
Yes I do think Ronaldo and Messi could scored 74 goals while playing for Barca. If Eto'o and Messi could I don't see why Messi and Ronaldo couldn't. Ronaldo is a far superior player to Eto'o. He would in my opinion score for fun at Barca along with Messi. They create thousands of chances. Are you mystic f**king meg in disguise?? |
Posted By: tribalarmy
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2011 at 8:52am
Messi and Eto'o did so why not???? |
Posted By: Vivakenbarlow
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2011 at 8:53am
Why are you mentioning rooney you plank are him and messi the same player????????? Your a fookin retard You are still honestly trying to say that messi and ronaldo couldnt score 70-80 goals between them in the same team when they have never played in the same team once before in their entire lives Your an absolute clown ------------- It took City 44 years to win the league and 10 months to lose it |
Posted By: Ireland4ever
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2011 at 8:53am
Get me another beer when your going to the fridge BSM
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Posted By: Vivakenbarlow
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2011 at 8:55am
Its a conspiracy ------------- It took City 44 years to win the league and 10 months to lose it |
Posted By: BigStrongMan
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2011 at 8:56am
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Posted By: Vivakenbarlow
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2011 at 8:57am
No more beers for siralex i think he has had enough  ------------- It took City 44 years to win the league and 10 months to lose it |
Posted By: Siralex
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2011 at 8:59am
My God - you don't know why I'm bringing Rooney in to it? Are you that thick? I'm trying to inform you that putting two top quality players in the same team means one's nose has to be put out of joint. Saying Ronaldo and Messi would defo score 70odd goals in teh same team is f**king moronic. It's teh equivalent of saying that Ronaldo and Rooney in the same team would scopre 70odd goals because Rooney scored 30odd last year as did Ronaldo. But when the two did play in the same team, Rooney had to take a back seat to Ronaldo' brilliance. Are you really that f**king stupid, that everything has to be broken down to you so simply. What a f**king gobsh*te. King gobsh*te you are! How do you not get that! |
Posted By: Vivakenbarlow
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2011 at 9:01am
Right so meg peer into the auld crystal ball and explain to us mere mortals exactly how ronaldo and messi would fare over the course of a season playing in the same team How many do you reckon they would collectively score? ------------- It took City 44 years to win the league and 10 months to lose it |
Posted By: Sham157
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2011 at 9:06am
| any of that beer left BSM? |
Posted By: BigStrongMan
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2011 at 9:08am
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Posted By: tribalarmy
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2011 at 9:08am
Sir Alex appears to have pulled a runner. Pack it up lads. 
He's back
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Posted By: The Big Club
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2011 at 9:09am
Siralex knows his stuff 
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Posted By: Siralex
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2011 at 9:09am
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YOu see....you just don't get it Barlow do you. YOu are such a f**king numpty. I'm not the one being Mystic Meg here am I? I'm not the one who came up with the sh*te: 'Imagine if Ronaldo and Messi were in the same team - they'd score 70-80 goals'. That was someone trying to be Mystic Meg. That was soemone trying to say what WOULD happen! I ain't gonna tell you how much they would collectively score, because like you and your f**king cronies I don't know. How could I know? Predicting and suggesting that is f**king moronic. That's fantasy football. Discussions like that are for idiots who play Football Manager and think that course of thinking can be transferred to the real thing; unaware that they are just sounding like f**king idiots! Have some respect for yourself and stop coming across like a f**king knob! |
Posted By: The Big Club
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2011 at 9:10am
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Posted By: Sham157
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2011 at 9:12am
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Posted By: tribalarmy
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2011 at 9:13am
Weren't you the champ at that. |
Posted By: Sham157
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2011 at 9:14am
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Posted By: BigStrongMan
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2011 at 9:14am
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Posted By: tribalarmy
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2011 at 9:14am
He thinks it's absurd to think that Ronaldo and Messi could possibly score 74 goals between them in the same side. Even though Eto'o and Messi did it at Barca. 
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Posted By: Ireland4ever
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2011 at 9:15am
 Was expecting 'Bottom of the Table Baggio' to come in with that one!
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Posted By: Siralex
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2011 at 9:15am
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Tribal - by the day you are wedging yourself in to teh category with Horsey, Baggio and Barlow. The Champ at what? Stop being a f**king moron - grow up - and have a bit of respect for your opinions. If you don't, no-one will. Just a bit of advice for ye! |
Posted By: tribalarmy
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2011 at 9:17am
It was a joke calm down.
You seem to be conveniently ignoring the rest of my points though? |
Posted By: Sham157
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2011 at 9:18am
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Posted By: The Big Club
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2011 at 9:18am
He gets criticised for lambasting other peoples opinion and now youse are doing the same, he talks more sense than most on here.
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Posted By: Roberto Baggio
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2011 at 9:18am
| Siralex - it must be so hard being you |
Posted By: Ireland4ever
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2011 at 9:20am
Fixed that for ya.
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Posted By: Siralex
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2011 at 9:22am
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Can ireland4Ever, SHam, Baggio, Barlow, Horsey, Tribal not have a f**king football debate without - when knwoing they are beaten - resulting to stupid jokes! I mean, they're not even close to funny! It just makes you look like f**king idiots. In the middle of a debate, why post up a stupid joke? That's a complete sign of weakness. It's embarrassing for yis. |
Posted By: tribalarmy
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2011 at 9:24am
Would you actually respond to one of my comments??
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Posted By: Siralex
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2011 at 9:25am
| Comment away Tribal. As far as I'm cocnerend you haven't said anything of note yet; do go ahead if you are interested in the discussion about football, please! |
Posted By: tribalarmy
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2011 at 9:28am
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You think it's absurd to think that Ronaldo and Messi could possibly score 74 goals between them in the same side. Even though Eto'o and Messi did it at Barca. I do think Ronaldo and Messi could scored 74 goals while playing for Barca. If Eto'o and Messi could I don't see why Messi and Ronaldo couldn't. Ronaldo is a far superior player to Eto'o. He would in my opinion score for fun at Barca along with Messi. They create thousands of chances.
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Posted By: Sham157
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2011 at 9:29am
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Posted By: horsebox
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2011 at 9:29am
Maybe you should show some respect to some of your fellow posters.
You have been abusive to nearly every poster whose opinions differs from yours - and now your in your flowers crying about.
You pathetic idiot
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Posted By: Ireland4ever
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2011 at 9:29am
Thats what this site is all about, a meeting point for similar minded (and not so similar
) Irish fans discussing football and also capable of having a laugh and a joke. It's not a site for lads getting worked up over whether Ronaldo & Messi would get X amount of goals. |
Posted By: Roberto Baggio
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2011 at 9:30am
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i didnt get involved in this debate and am free to post up jokes if i wish the point in question is like a lot of your debates u become enraged in,
theres no way of proving what your arguing until it actually happens and in truth its unlikely ever to happen
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Posted By: Roberto Baggio
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2011 at 9:32am
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and like a lot of your other debates you resort to name calling instead of answering valid arguments
why is it so unreal for messi and ronaldo to score 80 goals if messi and etoo scored 73??
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Posted By: Siralex
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2011 at 9:35am
Messi and Etoo? Is that in the season that Etoo was so shockingly bad that he was booed by the Barcelona players? So shockingly bad that the players even discussed not wanting to play with him. So bad that he was sold at the end of it? Are you saying Etoo and Messi formed a great partnership? It ain't a good point? How does that back up teh fact that you are certain that Ronaldo and Messi would shine in the same team. I seen your point earlier, but ignored it as nonsensical. Etoo was shipped out at the end of that season cos his attitude and perfromances weren't good enough. How can you use him in that season as a reason to suggest that Ronaldo and Messi would fit in to the same team with no problems and continue the current form they enjoy in sperate teams whilst in the same team? |
Posted By: Roberto Baggio
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2011 at 9:37am
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are you not contradicting yourself a bit in the sense that if etoo was so bad and still combined with messi for 70 something goals then how many would the awesome Ronaldo get with Messi??
and please dont resort to name calling just answer my question
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Posted By: Siralex
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2011 at 9:42am
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But your question is f**king sh*te Baggio. How many would Messi and Ronaldo get if playing in the same team? How the f**k am I supposed to know. I tell you what I do know though. Both wouldn't shine. Both wouldn't be able to flourish in the same way that they do now at different teams!! How could they? How would their be enough time in a match for both players to dominate the flow of a game like they do now. Read over the thread, see my point with Rooney. He was only able to shine after Ronaldo left. The two didn't really shine together at United, because only one approach can be taken. Can you serioulsy not understand that? To suggest Messi and Ronaldo would be still playing the same as they are now if they were put in to the same team is so nonsensical it's not even worth thinking baout, let alone typing out on a forum. It makes no sense. None whatsoever! You gobbsh*te - sorry, I nearly goit through it without sl*gging you Baggio.....nearly. Sorry mate! x |
Posted By: Roberto Baggio
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2011 at 9:47am
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no one knows for certain how they would perform together or how many goals they'd get, if one of them would shine, both of them or none of them = another pointless debate |
Posted By: tribalarmy
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2011 at 9:51am
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In my opinion they would get around the 70+ mark if playing for Barca.
Messi doesn't seem to care who he's playing with Villa, Ibra, Eto'o. He still performs. 74 goals for him and Eto. 68 for him and Ibra. So I don't see why he wouldn't do the same with Ronaldo. But at the end of the day we can't prove it so it's a pointless but enjoyable debate. |
Posted By: Siralex
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2011 at 9:52am
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Most sense you've ever said on here Baggio. Congrats! |
Posted By: Shoco
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2011 at 1:59pm
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i rekon they would score over 100 meself, 103 to be precise
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Posted By: bhob
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2011 at 4:16am
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Rooney is no Messi therefore i think between them they'd score 70+
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Posted By: Trapped
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2011 at 6:51am
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Ronaldo's record since joining Real is unbelievable. I'd have him back at United in a flash, but i still hope he wins nothing at Madrid. That is a possiblity given the quality of the Barca squad they face.
He is unlucky to be playing in the same era as Messi because he'd could've been the best player in the world more than once if Messi wasn't around. ------------- 67% points to games ratio at the last Euro's (better than Portugal's) |
Posted By: Siralex
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2011 at 10:04am
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As a United fan, I cheer on Real under Jose with every kick of the ball. When Jose takes over at OT next summer or the summer after, he will have won The Champions League, The UEFA Cup, The Premier League, Serie A and La Liga. .....and to think some United fans don't actually want him to succeed Fergie. |
Posted By: Ireland4ever
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2011 at 10:29am
I think Robbo should be given the job.
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Posted By: Devrozex
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2011 at 10:55am
Unlucky for Ronaldo himself alright - but it's good news for the sport if you ask me. Messi is a much better ambassador for the game than Ronaldo. There's a YouTube clip called 'Messi never dive' (was on classic youtube on the Guardian website recently), but if you have a look at it it's unreal. The amount of times he gets hacked out of it and just keeps on going is amazing. He looks genuinely dissappointed when the ref does give a free - he just wants to keep on playing like a little kid! Contrast that to Ronaldo, who plays with a chip permanently branded onto his shoulder. Anyway, don't want to get into yet another Messi v Ronaldo thing...
Whilst I think Mourinho would do a great job at United, I can certainly understand why some fans wouldn't want him there. United have historically played very open and attacking football - Mourinho sides are generally fairly lacking in the entertainment department and pride themselves on rock solid defences and an ability to grind out results. I don't think that sort of attitude would be too appealing to some of the United hierarchy to be honest.
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Posted By: Siralex
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2011 at 10:56am
| That's a myth Dev. Have you seen Real much this season? |
Posted By: Roberto Baggio
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2011 at 10:58am
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Could see the Sheikhs offering Jose crazy money in a few years when he's had enough of Real |
Posted By: colemanY2K
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2011 at 11:00am
It could happen at the end of the season
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Posted By: Devrozex
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2011 at 11:04am
To be fair, with the individuals they have got it would be an almost impossible task to make them as 'functional' as his previous teams!
Take a look at his previous three sides - Porto, Chelsea, Inter. All played a very similar style and used a similar system. He had Eto'o playing back in left midfield for a lot of the season for example.
I really don't think it's a myth. And if you believe it is a myth, I certainly don't think half a season at a club full of brilliant attacking individuals is going to dispell it.
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Posted By: Siralex
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2011 at 11:05am
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That's Man United's problem. Jose obvioulsy wants the United job. If he's offerred 10mill a year to go to Eastlands, then he'd need to find out from United if they want him or not. Ferguson has said he won't be managing past 70 - he turns 70 at the end of this calender year. I wouldn't be surprised if this was his last season. He's surpassed Busby's rieign.. He's gonna win United their 19th title. It's his 25th year in charge. He's 70 this year. All suggests that he could call it quits this summer! |
Posted By: Max Power
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2011 at 11:26am
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The only thing is I cant see Jose leaving Madrid until he's won either the league or Champions League with Real. If Fergie stands down at the end of the summer, which I dont think he will, I dont see Jose coming over. I Fergie waits one more year then i do. It wouldnt surprize me if Fergie and Mourinho have a "gentlemans agreement" for Mourinho to take over eventually the way he goes on about UNited and returning to England one day... ------------- Co-Founder of The Paul McShane Fan Club, Portmarnock Branch |
Posted By: Devrozex
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2011 at 11:27am
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It sure is United's problem.
Replacing a manager of Ferguson's calibre, who knows the club inside out, is an almost impossible task.
Mourinho is probably one of the few managers in the world who could handle the pressure - and handle it well. I just think his style of play may go against him when it all boils down to it.
I accept your list of reasons why Ferguson may call it quits this summer, but something tells me he'll be staying for a while yet. The sport is completely in his blood - I have a feeling he'll be involved until he's six foot under!
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Posted By: Shoco
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2011 at 12:24pm
i seen them get spanked 5-0 by barca, they didnt exactly set the world on fire that night with attacking play ------------- YOUR 3 IN A ROW LEAGUE CHAMPIONS |
Posted By: t_rAndy
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2011 at 12:26pm
Did he not say he would continue on as long as he was in good health?
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Posted By: Siralex
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2011 at 12:28pm
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Wow - so u judge teams on one game Shocco? Probably says it all about you! You do know that's the only game they've been beaten in all season, yes? In fact, in their other 17 league games they played they've scored almost 50 goals! f**k sake - stop it with the novice football judgements on here. We're not a six-year old discussing the game! Stupid post! |
Posted By: Siralex
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2011 at 12:29pm
That's his line. We all know he has a retirement date. Has said o numerous occassions he wants to travel the world with Cathy! Could well retire this summer. |
Posted By: Vivakenbarlow
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2011 at 12:31pm
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Would be very surprised if fergie packed it in at the end of the season
I think 20 league titles would be a huge achievement that he would like to get to He recently said "Retirement is for young people," Ferguson said. "I'm too old to retire. I would have nothing to do. "As long as my health is good, I will carry on - my family will make this decision." He does a lot of excersize and is in good health so unless that changes he will stick with it Cant really see fergie playing golf and doing a bit of gardening to keep him occupied ------------- It took City 44 years to win the league and 10 months to lose it |
Posted By: Shoco
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2011 at 5:19pm
gobsh*te------------- YOUR 3 IN A ROW LEAGUE CHAMPIONS |
Posted By: Siralex
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2011 at 5:26pm
| Ha ha - I think that one's very funny too! |
Posted By: Trapped
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2011 at 7:18am
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Posted By: Vivakenbarlow
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2011 at 5:14am
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64 goals in 62 games for madrid
It took the fat ronaldo 94 games to get to 64 goals Those planks on sky last night saying he was good at united but now he is at madrid he has turned into a star
He won european cups and leagues at united! ------------- It took City 44 years to win the league and 10 months to lose it |
Posted By: Ireland4ever
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2011 at 5:19am
And won Fifa World Player of the year at United.
I think though how he has impressed at Madrid only highlights how good a player he is, that he can do it at another club. (Before people jump down my throat, thats not a slight at Messi, just an observation)
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Posted By: Vivakenbarlow
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2011 at 5:21am
Ye i fully agree- messi is the better player 31 goals already this season!!!! ------------- It took City 44 years to win the league and 10 months to lose it |
Posted By: Ireland4ever
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2011 at 5:25am
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Posted By: The GerK
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2011 at 5:17am
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Got to kind of agree with Alex here in that no one knows how the two would play together
For me, Messi is streets ahead as a footballer.
Ronaldo has more physical attributes and scores plenty of his goals from dead balls
Messi's goals neaqrly all take your breath away
Little one twos, team goals, brilliant finishes
Also, his goals record stands at something like 72 in 75 games??? Can someone confirm
I'd also appreciate if one of you computer nerds could get the assists stats
For me, Ronaldo sometimes fails to play in the big games.
Outshone by Messi in the Champs league final and, well, pissed all over against Barca a few weeks ago.
I just feel that if you take Ronaldo's right peg away, you lose a lot.
In short, Messi is a far better all round footballer
PS...Alex tone down the personal abuse
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Posted By: Siralex
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2011 at 5:44am
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Can't agree with ye there Ger, Not only is Cristiano Ronaldo the current best player in the world, he's the greatest individual player I've ever seen. Some posters have ben mentioning his dead ball goals as if it's dismissive of a skill that Messi clearly doesn't have. Also Ronaldo has now done it in two different leagues and on the international stage. Messi has only proved to do it in this Guardiola set up. Also, Ronaldo was a better player than Messi when United beat Barca over two legs in 2008. Messi didn't exist for the entire 180minutes in those games. ANd Ronaldo has done it Champions League finals and FA Cup Finals - and has proved to be immense in a lot of big games - especially when at Man Utd. His game-game performances were brilliant. Messi is part of a great team. Ronaldo wins games on his own - I personally think the two are incomparable. Both are obvioulsy just as effective in the current set ups, but take Ronaldo out of that set up and put him in another and he would be just as effective. Messi on the otherhand is not likely to be, seeing as he hasn't proven to be ...and when he plays for his international side in a different set up he fails to have an impact. The goals stats are constantly brought up and we all know the two are a little difficult to divide in that way...but they really don't mean much. The truth is, if Ronaldo was taken away from Madrid and taken away from Portugal it would make the world of difference. His presence is that good. Messi away from Barcelona and Argentina wouldn't make much of a difference would it? yes he's part of that brilliant set up at Barca, but I think he's just part of it. It works as system - he's not as great an individual talent as Ronaldo. I don't even thin it's close. Messi is a much, much, much more likable bloke. But he isn't a better individual footballer nor does he have a bigger impact on the team he plays for than Ronaldo. |