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Topic: C(l)owen to address nation
Posted By: soccerc
Subject: C(l)owen to address nation
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 2:02pm
Cowen to address nation and the world at 8:15pm from outside Government buildings. RTE decide to show Fair City instead while foreign broadcasters televise it live.
Mind Boggles
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Posted By: ShamtheRam
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 2:05pm
Right in the middle of x factor
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Posted By: Baldrick
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 2:05pm
Domestic abuse is a very important subject Soccerc.
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Posted By: soccerc
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 2:05pm
Baldrick wrote:
Domestic abuse is a very important subject Soccerc.
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Well we're gonna get both domestic and international abuse afte rhe reveals we need €100m immediately.
Edit: RTE now saying - Brian Cowen in due to make a speech live to the nation in 15 minutes, live on RTÉ One and RTÉ News Now http://www.rte.ie/player/#l=7 - http://www.rte.ie/player/#l=7
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Posted By: brianie
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 2:06pm
Cowens speech will be Fairly sh*tty Anyway
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Posted By: Baldrick
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 2:08pm
I think today is a good day. Its the day the person with the addiction has walked into the counselling section and said I have a problem.
We wont need to go to the markets for a few years because of it. It does depend though what structural changes they are going to make to the banks.
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Posted By: ShamtheRam
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 2:09pm
Tenner he says "We are living beyond our means"
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Posted By: Daz
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 2:12pm
Posted By: Sham157
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 2:13pm
no word of an address on sky news or RTEs digital news channel
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Posted By: The Saint
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 2:14pm
we are a laughing stock.
how there have been no punishments to the people who contributed to this mess I dont know
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Posted By: soccerc
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 2:15pm
sham157 wrote:
no word of an address on sky news or RTEs digital news channel |
Sky will be covering it live with Tadhg Enright
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Posted By: Sham157
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 2:16pm
Usual Irish timekeeping it is
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Posted By: MintBerryCrunch
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 2:19pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hamKl-su8PE
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Posted By: Guf10
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 2:21pm
hes already 5 minutes late for the speech
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Posted By: soccerc
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 2:21pm
Pushed out to 8;30pm to accommodate Damien getting the shoite beaten pout of him by his missus
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Posted By: deisedevil
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 2:22pm
does this mean gaybo laughs back will not be on
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Posted By: Baldrick
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 2:22pm
Word is it will be an 80 million bailout with a split of 40 for banks and 40 for the economy.
That should see us fully funded for 3 years and we would not have to go to the markets for 3 years which would give us time to get our economy and banks in shape before we go to the markets again.
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Posted By: The Saint
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 2:22pm
sham157 wrote:
Usual Irish timekeeping it is
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probably waiting for fair city to be finished
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Posted By: The Saint
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 2:26pm
Baldrick wrote:
Word is it will be an 80 million bailout with a split of 40 for banks and 40 for the economy. That should see us fully funded for 3 years and we would not have to go to the markets for 3 years which would give us time to get our economy and banks in shape before we go to the markets again.
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we're still fooked.
how will people afford their mortgages if wages are cut again?
every penny we spend will have to be approved by europe, not saying thats a bad thing with the clowns that are there now
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Posted By: Baldrick
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 2:30pm
We are not fooked. Who said wages are going to be cut. Companies are coming into Ireland still and companies are still creating jobs, just look at paddy power last week.
Just as quickly as it went bust it cane come again. There will be cuts in wages in the public sector and rises in tax etc but prices wil come down in some areas.
The corporation tax is going to stay the same.
The four year plan is still the same, it has not changed and this years budget has not changed.
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Posted By: ShamtheRam
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 2:31pm
So it's come to this.............a Sunday night grovel to the nation by Cowen and his dimwitted sidekick Brian Lenihan.
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Posted By: Chopper 76
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 2:32pm
Listen to that pathetic worm on sky news, w**kers!
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Posted By: MintBerryCrunch
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 2:33pm
Baldrick wrote:
We are not fooked. Who said wages are going to be cut. Companies are coming into Ireland still and companies are still creating jobs, just look at paddy power last week. Just as quickly as it went bust it cane come again. There will be cuts in wages in the public sector and rises in tax etc but prices wil come down in some areas. The corporation tax is going to stay the same. The four year plan is still the same, it has not changed and this years budget has not changed.
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so youll only lose your house if your in the public sector, thats ok then
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Posted By: soccerc
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 2:34pm
"Everyone will know where they stand so they can plan for the future" - Income tax levels will return to 2006 levels under plan.
"We should not underestimate the scale of our economic problems, but we must have faith in our ability to recover"
Thanks Biffo and your contemptible government, now just F UC k off to the Park and resign
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Posted By: The Saint
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 2:34pm
you just said yourself baldrick that public sector wages will be cut. whatever about your opinions on that it will affect people paying their mortgages!
im sick of hearing about a 4 year strategy without answers to what is happening
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Posted By: ShamtheRam
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 2:36pm
Baldrick wrote:
We are not fooked. Who said wages are going to be cut. Companies are coming into Ireland still and companies are still creating jobs, just look at paddy power last week.
Just as quickly as it went bust it cane come again. There will be cuts in wages in the public sector and rises in tax etc but prices wil come down in some areas.
The corporation tax is going to stay the same.
The four year plan is still the same, it has not changed and this years budget has not changed.
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Jesus arn't you very optimistic.
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Posted By: Chopper 76
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 2:37pm
Two f**kwits they have a cheek to show their faces on telly.
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Posted By: Baldrick
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 2:38pm
As far as I know the Croke Park Agreement will be kept as there is huge savings in keeping it as thats how they will make savings in the public sector. If that is the case there will not be huge pay cuts at the lower ends of the public sector. There will be staff cuts but that will be done by voluntary redundancy.
I think today is a good day for Ireland and as I said we are now going to get funding from the EU rather than the international markets. Its like going from a dodgy money lender to a credit union.
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Posted By: The Saint
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 2:38pm
ShamtheRam wrote:
Baldrick wrote:
We are not fooked. Who said wages are going to be cut. Companies are coming into Ireland still and companies are still creating jobs, just look at paddy power last week. Just as quickly as it went bust it cane come again. There will be cuts in wages in the public sector and rises in tax etc but prices wil come down in some areas. The corporation tax is going to stay the same. The four year plan is still the same, it has not changed and this years budget has not changed. |
Jesus arn't you very optimistic. |
its a good attitude to have though, its the only way we'll get through this
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Posted By: Chopper 76
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 2:40pm
Neil do you not think it's a bit embarrassing all the same?
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Posted By: deisedevil
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 2:41pm
Chopper 76 wrote:
Two f**kwits they have a cheek to show their faces on telly. |
yeah they should have worn balaclavas
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Posted By: Sham157
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 2:42pm
From an A1 student to foundation level.
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Posted By: soccerc
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 2:42pm
Baldrick wrote:
As far as I know the Croke Park Agreement will be kept as there is huge savings in keeping it
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I am loathe to say this but the Croke Park Agreement must be renegotiated.
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Posted By: Baldrick
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 2:42pm
Not at all
UK went to IMF in 76 Argentina in 2001. Romania UKraine Hungary Greece Latvia all recently.
Fianna Fail have been in cahoots with the bankers and property over the last 20 years and this is the result of it. Credit was cheap and they put all our eggs in one basket with the approval of the people who invested in property themselves and voted FIanna Fail time and time agaim
Today is a good ay as that rubbish is over and its like we have admitted we have a problem and are going into the counsellor and saying we have a problem. Its a good day rather than a bad one.
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Posted By: Baldrick
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 2:44pm
soccerc wrote:
Baldrick wrote:
As far as I know the Croke Park Agreement will be kept as there is huge savings in keeping it
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I am loathe to say this but the Croke Park Agreement must be renegotiated.
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I think this years part of it will be kept and the review process will be looked at next year. There is a review process within the agreement and I think if the staff and unions make the necessary changes and savings then the wages wont be cut because the savings from organisational changs will be more than you will save by simply cutting staff wages, esp and the low to medium levls.
If there are not savins made by the time of the review process then it will have to be renegotiated and this is factored into the agreement.
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Posted By: soccerc
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 2:45pm
"Essential that we ensure continuity - that pass machines function...
overseas investors continue to invest in new enterprises" - Lenihan
Pass machines? So BOI getting a bail out too
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Posted By: criostoir Óg
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 2:46pm
For What Died the Sons of Róisín, was it fame?
For What Died the Sons of Róisín, was it fame?
For what flowed Irelands blood in rivers,
That began when Brian chased the Dane,
And did not cease nor has not ceased,
With the brave sons of ´16,
For what died the sons of Róisín, was it fame?
For What Died the Sons of Róisín, was it greed?
For What Died the Sons of Róisín, was it greed?
Was it greed that drove Wolfe Tone to a paupers death in a cell of cold wet stone?
Will German, French or Dutch inscribe the epitaph of Emmet?
When we have sold enough of Ireland to be but strangers in it.
For What Died the Sons of Róisín, was it greed?
To whom do we owe our allegiance today?
To whom do we owe our allegiance today?
To those brave men who fought and died that Róisín live again with pride?
Her sons at home to work and sing,
Her youth to dance and make her valleys ring,
Or the faceless men who for Mark and Dollar,
Betray her to the highest bidder,
To whom do we owe our allegiance today?
For what suffer our patriots today?
For what suffer our patriots today?
They have a language problem, so they say,
How to write "No Trespass" must grieve their heart full sore,
We got rid of one strange language now we are faced with many, many more,
For what suffer our patriots today?
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Posted By: McG
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 2:47pm
soccerc wrote:
"Essential that we ensure continuity - that pass machines function... overseas investors continue to invest in new enterprises" - Lenihan
Pass machines? So BOI getting a bail out too
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I can see myself watching this on reeling in the years in 10 years time. Where will we be then?!
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Posted By: Sham157
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 2:48pm
McG wrote:
soccerc wrote:
"Essential that we ensure continuity - that pass machines function... overseas investors continue to invest in new enterprises" - Lenihan
Pass machines? So BOI getting a bail out too
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I can see myself watching this on reeling in the years in 10 years time. Where will we be then?! |
United States of Europe?
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Posted By: Baldrick
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 2:49pm
Lads the Brits got a totall bailout by the IMF in 76, did their country lose its powers etc. I think all that 1916 rubbish is OTT crap.
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Posted By: McG
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 2:50pm
sham157 wrote:
McG wrote:
soccerc wrote:
"Essential that we ensure continuity - that pass machines function... overseas investors continue to invest in new enterprises" - Lenihan
Pass machines? So BOI getting a bail out too
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I can see myself watching this on reeling in the years in 10 years time. Where will we be then?! |
United States of Europe? |
We'll never get a player into the starting 11
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Posted By: soccerc
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 2:50pm
Banana Republic Septic Isle Screaming in the suffering sea It sounds like crying Everywhere I go Everywhere I see The black and blue uniforms Police and priests
And I wonder do you wonder While you're sleeping with your whore That sharing beds with history Is like a-licking running sores Forty shades of green yeah Sixty shades of red Heroes going cheap these days Price; a bullet in the head
Banana Republic Septic Isle Screaming in the suffering sea It sounds like crying Everywhere I go Everywhere I see The black and blue uniforms Police and priests
Take your hand and lead you Up a garden path Let me stand aside here And watch you pass Striking up a soldier's song I know that tune It begs too many questions And answers to,
Banana Republic Septic Isle Suffer in the screaming sea It sounds like crying Everywhere I go Everywhere I see The black and blue uniforms Police and priests
The purple and the pinstripe Mutely shake their heads A silense shrieking volumes A violence worse than the condemn Stab you in the back yeah Laughing in your face Glad to see the place again It's a pity nothing's changed
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Posted By: Guf10
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 2:50pm
Cowen cant even answer the questions!
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Posted By: Baldrick
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 2:51pm
Vincent Browne is a ***t.
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Posted By: MintBerryCrunch
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 2:53pm
Baldrick wrote:
Vincent Browne is a ***t.
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he is now making a show of Ireland
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Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 2:54pm
Baldrick wrote:
Vincent Browne is a ***t. |
why? Asking the questions that need to be asked.
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Posted By: Baldrick
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 2:55pm
Time and Place Vincent. If i was them I would not have taken the questions and I would have made a statement and walked out. I dont think answering all the questions was the right way to do it.
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Posted By: MintBerryCrunch
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 2:56pm
I like the way RTE cut the conference when he started off.
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Posted By: soccerc
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 2:56pm
Baldrick wrote:
Time and Place Vincent.
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Is there a wet stain on his crotch? Has he cum yet?
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Posted By: Trapped
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 2:57pm
Baldrick wrote:
As far as I know the Croke Park Agreement will be kept as there is huge savings in keeping it as thats how they will make savings in the public sector. If that is the case there will not be huge pay cuts at the lower ends of the public sector. There will be staff cuts but that will be done by voluntary redundancy.
I think today is a good day for Ireland and as I said we are now going to get funding from the EU rather than the international markets. Its like going from a dodgy money lender to a credit union.
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So you think there will or won't be wage cuts in the public sector? There'd be uproar if they did that for the third time, not to mention the income level and PAYE increases that also hit the public sector.
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Posted By: seaniemac
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 2:57pm
I think Baldrick is right (apart from the Browne is a **** bit, he's asking the questions we all want to know answers to), it's clear that government hasn't got a handle on things and that the bankers led them up the garden path, the EU will give us the money but deal with the banks and not give a sh*t if someone is a mate of FF, they will sort out the mess in the short term and it's up to us as a nation to make sure this cronyism that exists in Ireland doesn't happen again.
This 1916, we've lost our pride and the ability to rule ourselves crap is well OTT.
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Posted By: Baldrick
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 2:58pm
I dont think there will be pay cuts in the lower and middle income pay cuts in the public service to start with.
There will be a review of the Croke Park Agreement, which is part of the agreement and if the savings and re structuring which was agreed by the unions is going to plan then the wages will stay the same, if there is no improvemment in changes then there will be pay cuts. Thats whats in the agreement and what the unions have agreed to.
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Posted By: Trapped
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 2:59pm
Chopper 76 wrote:
Neil do you not think it's a bit embarrassing all the same? |
I find it a bit embarrassing tbh.
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Posted By: The Saint
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 3:00pm
the 2006 tax rates were 20% and 42%, tax credits for a single person were €1630 (currently €1830) and paye credit €1490 (currently €1830)
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Posted By: Baldrick
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 3:00pm
Baldrick wrote:
Time and Place Vincent. If i was them I would not have taken the questions and I would have made a statement and walked out. I dont think answering all the questions was the right way to do it.
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Both BBC and Sky said it was a lenghty press conference, I dont think it needed to be that long and I would not have got into the local disputes with amateurs like Browne.
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Posted By: Baldrick
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 3:01pm
trapped wrote:
Chopper 76 wrote:
Neil do you not think it's a bit embarrassing all the same? |
I find it a bit embarrassing tbh.
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Much bigger countries than us have got aid from the IMF and EU before as I listed above
UK Argentina Hungary Latvia Greece Ukraine Romania and many many more.
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Posted By: GoneToShowgies
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 3:02pm
40 billion on Red in Vegas.
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Posted By: soccerc
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 3:03pm
Full Statement
THE GOVERNMENT TODAY agreed to request financial support from the European Union and the Euro Area Members States. The IMF will also be requested to assist in the provision of support.
The Government welcomes the agreement reached at the Eurogroup meeting today that providing assistance to Ireland is warranted to safeguard financial stability in the EU and in the Euro Area.
In the context of a joint programme EU/IMF, the financial assistance package to the Irish state should be financed from the European financial stabilisation mechanism (EFSM) and the European financial stability facility (EFSF), possibly supplemented by bilateral loans to be negotiated by EU Member States.
EU and euro-area financial support will be provided under a strong policy programme which will be negotiated with the Irish authorities by the Commission and the IMF, in liaison with the ECB.
The programme will address the budgetary challenges of the Irish economy in a decisive manner on the basis of the ambitious budgetary adjustment and comprehensive structural reforms that will be contained in the Government’s Four Year Budgetary Strategy. Given the underlying strengths of the Irish economy, decisive implementation of the programme should allow a return to a robust and sustainable growth, safeguarding the economic and social position of the people of Ireland.
A central element of the programme will also be to support further deep restructuring and the restoration of the long-term viability and financial health of the Irish banking system. It will build on the extensive measures taken by Ireland to strengthen its banking sector, via guarantees, recapitalisation and asset segregation. These measures have helped to maintain financial stability of the Irish banking sector at a time the both the banking system and the Irish economy have confronted significant challenges reflecting both domestic and international factors.
The programme will address the potential future capital needs of the banking sector. By building on the measures already taken by Ireland to address stress in its banking sector, a comprehensive range of measures – including deleveraging and restructuring of the banking sector – will contribute to ensuring that the banking system performs its role in the functioning of the economy.
Since the last Eurogroup meeting on the 16th November there has been very constructive and positive engagement and dialogue between the Irish authorities and the Commission, the ECB and the IMF in order to determine the best way to provide necessary support to address continuing market risks, especially as regard the banking system, in the context of the four-year budgetary plan and the upcoming budget.
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Posted By: Baldrick
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 3:05pm
The Gardai treatment of the protester outside Government buildings was OTT in my view also. No need for such wrestling move. I heard they did a tombstone on him :)
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Posted By: deisedevil
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 3:06pm
fooking fuming with vincent browne, it was not the time for that when the world was watching.
lads all this bullsh*t of 1916 and sovereignty is rubbish we have taken billions from europe since we joined the EU, this is part of the same system that built all our roads and schools etc. its all part of being part of the EU, if were did not have the EU to help us we would be properly fooked
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Posted By: MintBerryCrunch
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 3:07pm
Baldrick wrote:
The Gardai treatment of the protester outside Government buildings was OTT in my view also. No need for such wrestling move. I heard they did a tombstone on him :)
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Hard job when your protecting the coonts who are going to be taking more money from them.
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Posted By: Sham157
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 3:08pm
Baldrick wrote:
The Gardai treatment of the protester outside Government buildings was OTT in my view also. No need for such wrestling move. I heard they did a tombstone on him :) |
Usual Garda response to peaceful protests, one lone man and not too young either brought down by a move Sheamus would be proud of. All he did was block the car and chant for democracy. The two coppers should have had no problem frog marching him away
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Posted By: deisedevil
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 3:09pm
sham157 wrote:
Baldrick wrote:
The Gardai treatment of the protester outside Government buildings was OTT in my view also. No need for such wrestling move. I heard they did a tombstone on him :) |
Usual Garda response to peaceful protests, one lone man and not too young either brought down by a move Sheamus would be proud of. All he did was block the car and chant for democracy. The two coppers should have had no problem frog marching him away |
looked like he slipped when pushed by the gaurds
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Posted By: Sham157
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 3:11pm
deisedevil wrote:
sham157 wrote:
Baldrick wrote:
The Gardai treatment of the protester outside Government buildings was OTT in my view also. No need for such wrestling move. I heard they did a tombstone on him :) |
Usual Garda response to peaceful protests, one lone man and not too young either brought down by a move Sheamus would be proud of. All he did was block the car and chant for democracy. The two coppers should have had no problem frog marching him away |
looked like he slipped when pushed by the gaurds
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definite take down by a look at me copper
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Posted By: The Saint
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 3:11pm
the usual garda response, heavy handed and on a power trip
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Posted By: Baldrick
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 3:11pm
deisedevil wrote:
fooking fuming with vincent browne, it was not the time for that when the world was watching.
lads all this bullsh*t of 1916 and sovereignty is rubbish we have taken billions from europe since we joined the EU, this is part of the same system that built all our roads and schools etc. its all part of being part of the EU, if were did not have the EU to help us we would be properly fooked
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Well said
The 1916 rubbish, what is the difference between gettin money from the EU and the IMF rather than getting it from the markets. The same markets who were blamed for our tough budget. So the reason we were having a tough budget was because of the markets and now instead of the markets we are going to get our money from the EU and IMF.
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Posted By: soccerc
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 3:11pm
deisedevil wrote:
looked like he slipped when pushed by the gaurds
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That's akin to the age old, He must have fallen in the cells
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Posted By: sheasy
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 3:12pm
deisedevil wrote:
sham157 wrote:
Baldrick wrote:
The Gardai treatment of the protester outside Government buildings was OTT in my view also. No need for such wrestling move. I heard they did a tombstone on him :) |
Usual Garda response to peaceful protests, one lone man and not too young either brought down by a move Sheamus would be proud of. All he did was block the car and chant for democracy. The two coppers should have had no problem frog marching him away | looked like he slipped when pushed by the gaurds | looked to me like he was aggressively flung to the ground
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Posted By: Trapped
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 3:12pm
Baldrick wrote:
trapped wrote:
Chopper 76 wrote:
Neil do you not think it's a bit embarrassing all the same? |
I find it a bit embarrassing tbh.
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Much bigger countries than us have got aid from the IMF and EU before as I listed above UK Argentina Hungary Latvia Greece Ukraine Romania and many many more.
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Yea but it's not a club you want to be in.
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Posted By: petej1963
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 3:14pm
All this is is Ireland taking out a huge mortgage from the EU when we need it now to set us on the right road, like all mortgage's it will be paid back over time. Onwards and upwards.
The only bad thing is us all have to listen to that fcuking thick Enda Kenny going on about it, as if he will do any better "if" he gets in.
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Posted By: Sham157
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 3:16pm
With the knowledge on display here and the counter claims, perhaps YBIG could form the next government and opposition?
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Posted By: The Saint
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 3:17pm
sham157 wrote:
With the knowledge on display here and the counter claims, perhaps YBIG could form the next government and opposition? |
was thinking that myself
I'd say baldrick will be fighting for top job
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Posted By: deisedevil
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 3:18pm
The Saint wrote:
sham157 wrote:
With the knowledge on display here and the counter claims, perhaps YBIG could form the next government and opposition? |
was thinking that myself
I'd say baldrick will be fighting for top job |
was thinking of running myself actually
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Posted By: Baldrick
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 3:18pm
Peter I dont think now is the time to be put off on personalities. I am not a Fine Gael voter but I do think that Enda Kenny gets harsh treatment from the media cause he is not a great thinker on his feet and as a result does not suit teh sparring of an interview say like a Pat Rabbitte. But what you need is a cool calm leader who can bring the best team in and get the right people into the right jobs and have a moral compass. Not saying he is perfect but he will be a lot better than any of the Fianna Fail brigade.
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Posted By: Baldrick
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 3:19pm
The Saint wrote:
sham157 wrote:
With the knowledge on display here and the counter claims, perhaps YBIG could form the next government and opposition? |
was thinking that myself
I'd say baldrick will be fighting for top job |
Nah you have to be popular so thats me f**ked. Thats the problem with democracy. :)
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Posted By: McG
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 3:19pm
The Saint wrote:
sham157 wrote:
With the knowledge on display here and the counter claims, perhaps YBIG could form the next government and opposition? |
was thinking that myself I'd say baldrick will be fighting for top job |
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Posted By: The Saint
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 3:21pm
Baldrick wrote:
Peter I dont think now is the time to be put off on personalities. I am not a Fine Gael voter but I do think that Enda Kenny gets harsh treatment from the media cause he is not a great thinker on his feet and as a result does not suit teh sparring of an interview say like a Pat Rabbitte. But what you need is a cool calm leader who can bring the best team in and get the right people into the right jobs and have a moral compass. Not saying he is perfect but he will be a lot better than any of the Fianna Fail brigade.
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I'd be of similar thinking myself. No matter who is in charge they are going to get a hard time off certain people.
I wonder were Bertie is tonight? Smug ****
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Posted By: brianie
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 3:21pm
Hearing Biffos non response answers to Vincent Brown, This Guy is in Denial and intent on Keeping up Charlies/Berties Manifest of protecting FF before the Country
Shame on you All
------------- ITS KEANE YES
YBIG You Can Please some of the People Some of the Time But Not All of The People All of The Time
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Posted By: Sham157
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 3:22pm
McG wrote:
The Saint wrote:
sham157 wrote:
With the knowledge on display here and the counter claims, perhaps YBIG could form the next government and opposition? |
was thinking that myself I'd say baldrick will be fighting for top job |
Opposed by Q Man |
Taoiseach Baldrick to think through the policies and Tanaiste Qman to tell people when to get lost
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Posted By: Trapped
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 3:23pm
sham157 wrote:
McG wrote:
The Saint wrote:
sham157 wrote:
With the knowledge on display here and the counter claims, perhaps YBIG could form the next government and opposition? |
was thinking that myself I'd say baldrick will be fighting for top job |
Opposed by Q Man |
Taoiseach Baldrick to think through the policies and Tanaiste Qman to tell people when to get lost |
I thought they were running against each other?
------------- 67% points to games ratio at the last Euro's (better than Portugal's)
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Posted By: Sham157
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 3:23pm
trapped wrote:
sham157 wrote:
McG wrote:
The Saint wrote:
sham157 wrote:
With the knowledge on display here and the counter claims, perhaps YBIG could form the next government and opposition? |
was thinking that myself I'd say baldrick will be fighting for top job |
Opposed by Q Man |
Taoiseach Baldrick to think through the policies and Tanaiste Qman to tell people when to get lost |
I thought they were running against each other?
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Power Sharing Trapped
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Posted By: MintBerryCrunch
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 3:23pm
trapped wrote:
sham157 wrote:
McG wrote:
The Saint wrote:
sham157 wrote:
With the knowledge on display here and the counter claims, perhaps YBIG could form the next government and opposition? | was thinking that myself I'd say baldrick will be fighting for top job |
Opposed by Q Man |
Taoiseach Baldrick to think through the policies and Tanaiste Qman to tell people when to get lost | I thought they were running against each other? |
Power sharing hitting the Republic
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Posted By: Baldrick
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 3:24pm
I am not running. Deisedevil and Q man are runing against each other.
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Posted By: Trapped
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 3:26pm
sham157 wrote:
trapped wrote:
sham157 wrote:
Taoiseach Baldrick to think through the policies and Tanaiste Qman to tell people when to get lost |
I thought they were running against each other?
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Power Sharing Trapped |
Oh yea, interesting combination so. But i don't think a €15 minimum wage policy is what the country needs right now.
------------- 67% points to games ratio at the last Euro's (better than Portugal's)
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Posted By: seaniemac
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 3:28pm
The YBIG Party sounds like a good idea. The way the country is now, any new party would get a good few votes in the next elections. Plus, Baldrick is good at kissing strangers, the mammys and new babies would love him.
You'd get my vote Baldrick! That name change scandal might come back to haunt you though
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Posted By: Sham157
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 3:28pm
Posted By: The Saint
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 3:29pm
there should be a slush fund for flights for away games in the manifesto!
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Posted By: petej1963
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 3:30pm
Baldrick wrote:
Peter I dont think now is the time to be put off on personalities. I am not a Fine Gael voter but I do think that Enda Kenny gets harsh treatment from the media cause he is not a great thinker on his feet and as a result does not suit teh sparring of an interview say like a Pat Rabbitte. But what you need is a cool calm leader who can bring the best team in and get the right people into the right jobs and have a moral compass. Not saying he is perfect but he will be a lot better than any of the Fianna Fail brigade.
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I think that at this time in our history its time to pull together, this is not the time to be having a blame game, lets get the country on a sound footing, then we can start the finger pointing later, perhaps I was too hard on Kenny, all do I do think that after the next election he may be playing second fiddle to Rabbitte.
------------- Sleep gentle our Rose of Mooncoin.......
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Posted By: The GerK
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 3:31pm
Baldrick and SeanirMc have said most of what of what I need to say here
Whoever is fickle enough to bring up 1916 and such other bullsh*t should really sit down and consider the facts here
I am as, actually more, republican than the next man.
But we need stability more than history right now
As has been said, the Brits did it in the 70s and were clear a few years later
Other Euro nations will soon follow us
And...I am ready for the backlash here...the public sector have had it too easy for long time now
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Posted By: Baldrick
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 3:32pm
X Factor would be banned. Barstools would be heavily taxed and excel spredsheets would be banned.
I would also give tax incentives to flag making companies and like the Greyhound raising, LOI clubs woudl get tax incentives and funding to improve their facilties and have corporate facilities like the greyhound tracks etc.
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Posted By: petej1963
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 3:32pm
Baldrick wrote:
I am not running. Deisedevil and Q man are runing against each other.
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Q man is really Joan Burton
------------- Sleep gentle our Rose of Mooncoin.......
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Posted By: soccerc
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 3:33pm
The Saint wrote:
sham157 wrote:
With the knowledge on display here and the counter claims, perhaps YBIG could form the next government and opposition? |
was thinking that myself
I'd say baldrick will be fighting for top job |
Come on The Saint, knowing family history I reckon you are a shoo in for Finance
Baldrick can have Justice and Law Reform
Justice Social Welfare
DeiseDevil Labour
Saint Tom Immigration and Cultie
Double Maxim Local Government Regional beer
Sligo Hornet Gaelteacht
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Posted By: Sham157
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 3:34pm
The GerK wrote:
Baldrick and SeanirMc have said most of what of what I need to say here
Whoever is fickle enough to bring up 1916 and such other bullsh*t should really sit down and consider the facts here
I am as, actually more, republican than the next man. But we need stability more than history right now As has been said, the Brits did it in the 70s and were clear a few years later Other Euro nations will soon follow us And...I am ready for the backlash here...the public sector have had it too easy for long time now
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Are Leinster still in need of players Ger? I'll need a second job soon.
(Well said by the way)
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Posted By: Trapped
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 3:34pm
Baldrick wrote:
X Factor would be banned. Barstools would be heavily taxed and excel spredsheets would be banned.
I would also give tax incentives to flag making companies and like the Greyhound raising, LOI clubs woudl get tax incentives and funding to improve their facilties and have corporate facilities like the greyhound tracks etc.
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If YBIG elects you, what promises can you make in terms of cheese?
------------- 67% points to games ratio at the last Euro's (better than Portugal's)
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Posted By: Baldrick
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 3:35pm
petej1963 wrote:
Baldrick wrote:
Peter I dont think now is the time to be put off on personalities. I am not a Fine Gael voter but I do think that Enda Kenny gets harsh treatment from the media cause he is not a great thinker on his feet and as a result does not suit teh sparring of an interview say like a Pat Rabbitte. But what you need is a cool calm leader who can bring the best team in and get the right people into the right jobs and have a moral compass. Not saying he is perfect but he will be a lot better than any of the Fianna Fail brigade.
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I think that at this time in our history its time to pull together, this is not the time to be having a blame game, lets get the country on a sound footing, then we can start the finger pointing later, perhaps I was too hard on Kenny, all do I do think that after the next election he may be playing second fiddle to Rabbitte.
Rabbitte is not even the leader, he is just in the news cause he captured the zeitgeist the other night on Prime Time. He is top notch when it comes to verbal wrestling but Gillmore is the leader of Labour not Rabbite. Rabbite will be a Minister in the next government. Probably a senior one but not Finance that will either be Noonan or Joan Bruton, depending on seats etc.
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Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 3:35pm
Only one man and his party can get this country back to its feet after being humiliated. Step forth RogerMilla and his nazi party. He'll get the economy going again with his building of autobahns.
------------- Pied Piper to: Baldrick, Brendan 88, 9Fingers, Borussia and more...
97.6% chance this post will be replied to by Baldrick (source: PWC)
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Posted By: The GerK
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 3:35pm
trapped wrote:
Baldrick wrote:
X Factor would be banned. Barstools would be heavily taxed and excel spredsheets would be banned. I would also give tax incentives to flag making companies and like the Greyhound raising, LOI clubs woudl get tax incentives and funding to improve their facilties and have corporate facilities like the greyhound tracks etc.
| If YBIG elects you, what promises can you make in terms of cheese? |
Cheddar only, and Sham..are you at least 20 stone?
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Posted By: Baldrick
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 3:35pm
trapped wrote:
Baldrick wrote:
X Factor would be banned. Barstools would be heavily taxed and excel spredsheets would be banned.
I would also give tax incentives to flag making companies and like the Greyhound raising, LOI clubs woudl get tax incentives and funding to improve their facilties and have corporate facilities like the greyhound tracks etc.
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If YBIG elects you, what promises can you make in terms of cheese?
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Anybody who is found to have cheese on their cock will be heavily taxed.
Domo will be fcked. :)
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Posted By: The Saint
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 3:36pm
soccerc wrote:
The Saint wrote:
sham157 wrote:
With the knowledge on display here and the counter claims, perhaps YBIG could form the next government and opposition? |
was thinking that myself
I'd say baldrick will be fighting for top job | Come on The Saint, knowing family history I reckon you are a shoo in for FinanceBaldrick can have Justice and Law ReformJustice Social WelfareDeiseDevil LabourSaint Tom Immigration and CultieDouble Maxim Local Government Regional beerSligo Hornet Gaelteacht |
dont know about that
would love to get involved in the re-organisation of the public sector though
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Posted By: Sham157
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 3:39pm
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