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Hans Moleman
Roy Keane Muff: That is a lie and you are a liar Joined: 09 Aug 2012 Status: Offline Points: 10199 |
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He did flick it with his arm. That is a fact. That is why it's a great rule. I'm not sure how you can read that as me saying it's intentional btw, I'm just stating a fact. Either way nobody but Laporte can know his intent in the situation (I don't believe it was intentional at all) which is why the black and white nature of the ruling now is spot on. Do you believe it's a bad thing that handling the ball in the build up or scoring of a goal is being 100 percent disallowed now?
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"I called him an embarrassment to FIFA and to himself," .... He said 'No-one speaks to me like that'.... and I said, "well I do' and that was that."
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Roberto Baggio
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You couldn’t make it up, another injury time winner against Spurs at the Etihad ruled out by VAR, and in that game in April Spurs’ critical goal was allowed despite it comimg off Llorente’s arm, where’s tonight’s Laporte’s was disallowed.
Have to say it was the correct decision though Rodri should have had a penalty for sure All this talk of the new handball rule clearing up a grey area, can anyone explain to me why Watford didn’t win a penalty for a Glenn Murray handball in the box last weekend?
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Hans Moleman
Roy Keane Muff: That is a lie and you are a liar Joined: 09 Aug 2012 Status: Offline Points: 10199 |
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The short answer is the Brighton players arms were close enough to his side.
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"I called him an embarrassment to FIFA and to himself," .... He said 'No-one speaks to me like that'.... and I said, "well I do' and that was that."
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doherty
Jack Charlton Teenage Kicks, so hard to beat Joined: 30 Mar 2015 Status: Online Points: 7585 |
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That was defo a peno if were going by todays stupid rules by murray last week.
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Hans Moleman
Roy Keane Muff: That is a lie and you are a liar Joined: 09 Aug 2012 Status: Offline Points: 10199 |
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Rules for what? Laporte handball? They are totally different scenarios.
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"I called him an embarrassment to FIFA and to himself," .... He said 'No-one speaks to me like that'.... and I said, "well I do' and that was that."
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doherty
Jack Charlton Teenage Kicks, so hard to beat Joined: 30 Mar 2015 Status: Online Points: 7585 |
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I dont mean today as in today literally. Its a general expression.
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Robbie Keane I am MALDING Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Trumpton Status: Offline Points: 44659 |
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I think it is your wording here. It flicked off his arm rather than him flicking it. It implies intent.
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Hans Moleman
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You and Shoco are probably correct. My wording is off there, it would have been the way I've always spoken of actions like that in football though, intent or not.
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"I called him an embarrassment to FIFA and to himself," .... He said 'No-one speaks to me like that'.... and I said, "well I do' and that was that."
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Hans Moleman
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The Brighton handball is debatable at best by today's handball rules. I think they got it right, but it's one scenario (how far the arm is from the side) that is open to interpretation. Most other tweaks to the handball rules are good (besides the sliding on the floor one which I think is ridiculous).
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"I called him an embarrassment to FIFA and to himself," .... He said 'No-one speaks to me like that'.... and I said, "well I do' and that was that."
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pre Madonna
Robbie Keane I am MALDING Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Trumpton Status: Offline Points: 44659 |
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That's fair enough, I just think that's where the confusion came from. I think the rule does clear it up alright, even if Manchester City were unfortunate in this instance. The two clowns on MOTD seem to disagree, so it must be good. I forgot why I stopped watching it. Some of the new rules are a little hard to get used to. I am still struggling to see defenders running towards the goalkeeper for goal-kicks, even if I think it makes more sense than the old rule.
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Roberto Baggio
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I wonder if Planning is keeping a dossier again this season for decisions both the officials and VaR get wrong, such as the Rodri non penalty today
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Hans Moleman
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The Rodri one is a really awful call. You can have a VAR all you want but when the officials aren't near the required level on or off the field, there will be plenty of wrong calls.
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"I called him an embarrassment to FIFA and to himself," .... He said 'No-one speaks to me like that'.... and I said, "well I do' and that was that."
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Hans Moleman
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The new goal kick rule is good also. The previous rule became a nonsense with teams stepping in on purpose for a retake if caught out on a short kick out. The handball ruling out goals scored like Citys tonight is a great addition. There has been a huge clearing up in handball rules as well now, they've finally started defining exact situations, so there's plenty of simpler black and white calls. There are a few scenarios there that could do with more tidying up but imo the removal of intent around the handball is a big plus. This notion that all player will kick it off opposition hands for penalties is just silly. That is only plausible if every handball was a foul which the rules clearly state is not the case. I actually think these rule tweaks would have done the refs a huge favour years ago. Now with VAR, every call is scrutinised hugely and often totally incorrectly by pundits. It just becomes a sh*tstorm left right and centre.
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Yeah, I like the goal-kick rule too, it just takes time to adjust. I think you are right in that if we had a few years of these rules before VAR was implemented there would be less scrutiny and outcry. That's the big problem with VAR, the interpretation leads to the delays and confusion and often, as on Wednesday, the wrong outcome.
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Hans Moleman
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Without doubt it's the perfect sh*tstorm. In one way you'd feel a bit sorry for the officials (and I never ever do )
Even today, the handball. It's such a simple rule but there was an outcry from everyone that the goal didn't stand. Do people want the referee to spot that, or the VAR, but then say no that doesn't seem the fairest and award the goal! The biggest thing that VAR should be stamping down on is diving. It's actually getting worse in every game imo. I actually think that it's harder for a tv replay to adjudge the level of contact than the on field ref, so players can actually get away with going down under the lightest of contacts now and winning a penalty or free. The yanks have a term for that thing, something like a soft tv foul or something. So VAR doesn't solve everything.
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"I called him an embarrassment to FIFA and to himself," .... He said 'No-one speaks to me like that'.... and I said, "well I do' and that was that."
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Roberto Baggio
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McGin, Hourihane, Luiz and Grealish - Villa should get plenty of goals from outside the box this season
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Hans Moleman
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What about Guardiola and Aguero today I thought Guardiola was going to go back up the few rows at one point and bate him. he doesn't take kindly to anyone questioning him, especially publicly.
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Roberto Baggio
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Seems very angry this season. Losing it at the charity shield and now that today
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