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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Lads the rules have changed.  That’s the reason.  

Originally posted by Shermanator1 Shermanator1 wrote:

We are well aware that the rules have changed.  The point being made is that having a successful campaign and hoping for a favorable result in a final group game, is a far cry from having an abysmal campaign, and hoping for a series of unlikely results across numerous groups to hand us a playoff that we've done absolutely nothing to deserve. Quite a difference between the two.

We qualified for euro 2016 by coming third under O Neill and then through a playoff.  If that system was in place we would still be in it.  So it works both ways.  We came third in the last group.  But nobody mentions that with O Neill they say he got us to the Euros and to the last 16.  He even brought it up himself saying he qualifies in a group with Germany in it.  Yeah we did by coming 3rd.  That hasn’t been enough before or since.  


This. 

We also only took a point each from Scotland and Poland who were 3rd and 4th seeds!

Qualification was out of our hands by Summer 2015, we absolutely needed Scotland to cock it up in Georgia just to be in with a shout of 3rd!!!


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We are 12.25% so not a lot changes. Big Israel goal though was still important.
WGF has Romania having a slight edge over Israel. We probably would have been 20% otherwise.
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Originally posted by Nialler Nialler wrote:

We are 12.25% so not a lot changes. Big Israel goal though was still important.
WGF has Romania having a slight edge over Israel. We probably would have been 20% otherwise.
*12.24%
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Originally posted by Bandwagon Bandwagon wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Lads the rules have changed.  That’s the reason.  

Originally posted by Shermanator1 Shermanator1 wrote:

We are well aware that the rules have changed.  The point being made is that having a successful campaign and hoping for a favorable result in a final group game, is a far cry from having an abysmal campaign, and hoping for a series of unlikely results across numerous groups to hand us a playoff that we've done absolutely nothing to deserve. Quite a difference between the two.

We qualified for euro 2016 by coming third under O Neill and then through a playoff.  If that system was in place we would still be in it.  So it works both ways.  We came third in the last group.  But nobody mentions that with O Neill they say he got us to the Euros and to the last 16.  He even brought it up himself saying he qualifies in a group with Germany in it.  Yeah we did by coming 3rd.  That hasn’t been enough before or since.  


This. 

We also only took a point each from Scotland and Poland who were 3rd and 4th seeds!

Qualification was out of our hands by Summer 2015, we absolutely needed Scotland to cock it up in Georgia just to be in with a shout of 3rd!!!

We also managed to take 4 points off the top seed and reigning world cup champions, Germany.  That 3rd place finish was years beyond anything we've accomplished under Kenny.
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If we get a playoff place then we'll try and win it , regardless of the scutter that came before in this group. 

I want Kenny to go but have to agree that we got shafted in the draw , easily the toughest group for the third and fourth seed. 
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Am I right in saying we need wales and Israel to qualify automatically ?
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Originally posted by TBWRA TBWRA wrote:

Am I right in saying we need wales and Israel to qualify automatically ?

Yes or Poland.  

Basically you want teams ahead of us in the rankings to qualify over teams behind us in the rankings.  

I.e wales over turkey 

Israel over Romania 

Poland over Albania.  
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Austria are home and hosed now. So, unless there is a major shock in another group, we need two from Wales, Israel and Poland to qualify automatically.
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Originally posted by Badgersboys9 Badgersboys9 wrote:

Originally posted by Nialler Nialler wrote:

We are 12.25% so not a lot changes. Big Israel goal though was still important.
WGF has Romania having a slight edge over Israel. We probably would have been 20% otherwise.
*12.24%

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Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

Austria are home and hosed now. So, unless there is a major shock in another group, we need two from Wales, Israel and Poland to qualify automatically.

so you are saying theres a chance  ?as he searches in vain for something so he can cling on to his dream  of a tournament in Germany 
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Just saw a tweet pop up from that Kosovo account I followed last night. UEFA are investigating Romania following the events last night and there is a possibility that they could be deducted points. Doubt that'll happen but it there is a chance lol
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Originally posted by rolo rolo wrote:



Turkey are away to Croatia next. Hopefully a loss there. Croatia have gotten their act together.

The results we need for Wales to get the autos:

October
Turkey lose away to Croatia.
Turkey will beat Latvia at home.
Wales to get at least a point at home to Croatia.

November
Wales beat Armenia away.
Wakes beat Turkey at home.
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We need to make this a sticky. 4 weeks time we'll forget what needs to go in our favour, myself included.
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Poland and Turkey have changed managers today. Hopefully works wonders for Poland, Turkey not so much...
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