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IrishCanadian ![]() Kevin Kilbane ![]() Joined: 29 Jun 2019 Status: Offline Points: 154 |
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You do need to be a citizen to play for Ireland and he wasn't at the time of his official Luxembourg youth caps. Which rendered him ineligible for Ireland as declared by FIFA. That is literally the reason he was deemed ineligible in the first place.
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IrishCanadian ![]() Kevin Kilbane ![]() Joined: 29 Jun 2019 Status: Offline Points: 154 |
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Do you have an actual quote for the bolded or where in the new laws it states that? I've yet to actually find where it says that anywhere. A former Brazilian youth player has recently expressed interest in playing for Canada but like Johansson, he wasn't a Canadian citizen at the time of his official Brazil youth caps which would render him ineligible unless the rules regarding this specific point have been changed. I just can't find anywhere that mentions this area when talking of the law changes.
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You Tell Me ![]() Davey Langan ![]() Joined: 05 Sep 2010 Status: Online Points: 793 |
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https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://img.fifa.com/image/upload/gv5axxtvu2aydszqfiw6.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwj7tJ3C7InvAhWRN8AKHWByBfgQFjAAegQIBBAD&usg=AOvVaw37R-gW2wJTvHJkziJ58jfT
This is the relevant document. Johansson now qualifies under Article 9, Section 2, Subsection b. With regard to the additional requirements set out in part iv of subsection b, he qualifies under Article 7, Section 1, Subsection c (grandparent born in Ireland). I realise that's a very technical answer written in legalese, but that's the answer.
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DeclanDaly ![]() Liam Brady ![]() Joined: 17 Oct 2013 Location: Boston, USA Status: Offline Points: 2855 |
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Bit of a headache, that document, but I supposed Johansson would fit this scenario:
b) the player: i) was fielded in a match in an official competition at any level (with the exception of “A” international level) in any kind of football for his current association; ii) at the time of being fielded for his first match in an official competition in any kind of football for his current association, he did not hold the nationality of the association which he wishes to represent. iii) at the time of being fielded for his last match in an official competition in any kind of football for his current association, he had not turned 21 years old; and iv) meets any of the requirements provided in article 6 or article 7. |
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You asked if I'd be anyone from history, fact or fiction, dead or alive:
I said "I'd be Tony Cascarino, circa 1995" |
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You Tell Me ![]() Davey Langan ![]() Joined: 05 Sep 2010 Status: Online Points: 793 |
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Correct. Played at underage, not senior; wasn't an Irish citizen; hasn't played for Lux after his 21st birthday (he's 20); grandparent born in Ireland.
So he now qualifies for us.
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Fozz ![]() 500 Club la la la ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Oct 2019 Location: Dublin Status: Offline Points: 742 |
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And with the U21's comp starting in March, you'd think a young lad would want to look to be featuring in one of the squads if they'd have him. To hear him say he hasn't thought about it since moving to Spain seems odd after the lengths he went to beforehand to declare for us. I'm not suggesting he'd get into our U21 squad at this stage but he's just turned 20 so will have (if I am correct) one more U21s campaign in him but after that, it's senior caps or no caps so I'd not be hanging around.
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geansaí ![]() Joe Lapira ![]() Joined: 06 Feb 2021 Location: Dublin Status: Offline Points: 6 |
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There is potentially an element of him waiting to see how his career progresses.
For example if he is in fact eligible for us and he played a couple of u21 games now, he may never get to senior level if his career doesn't develop and he would have lost any chance of playing for Luxembourg. Why make a decision now at underage level when the senior game is the goal
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IrishCanadian ![]() Kevin Kilbane ![]() Joined: 29 Jun 2019 Status: Offline Points: 154 |
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Thanks very much, that’s exactly what I was looking for. That is one hot mess of a document though. Sect. 9.2 A refers to having to hold nationality at the time of the youth cap and then sect 9.2 B refers to not holding nationality at that time. Rendering Sect. 9.2.A meaningless, so why even leave it in there. Would suggest then that Auro jr will actually be eligible for Canada if he gets citizenship then too.
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DeclanDaly ![]() Liam Brady ![]() Joined: 17 Oct 2013 Location: Boston, USA Status: Offline Points: 2855 |
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It’s not very clear, but I think section A refers to internationals who have played an A or full international Section d opens some interesting doors for naturalization. If you lose citizenship for a country because of govt action, I suppose you can play for any other country that will give you citizenship. I wonder if that includes countries that don’t permit dual nationality (like Japan, for instance).
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You asked if I'd be anyone from history, fact or fiction, dead or alive:
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You Tell Me ![]() Davey Langan ![]() Joined: 05 Sep 2010 Status: Online Points: 793 |
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This campaign will be Johansson's last one at underage level. Interestingly all three of his countries are in the same qualifying group.
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Nialler ![]() Kevin Kilbane ![]() Joined: 20 Aug 2019 Status: Offline Points: 377 |
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If I was the lad I would back off international football too. or at least talking about it to press. It has been a huge distraction for him during the most important phase of his career in terms of development.
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