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Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

The article suggests that the FAI haven't closed the door on Johansson though. Having a Swedish passport is one thing but what matters is whether he has formally transferred from Luxembourg to Sweden through FIFA. If he hasn't he's eligible for us at this point.

I think he still has a case with all the confusion and rule changing if his heart was set on Ireland as has been said. I thought it was his agent who said it was the right decson a while back and it is hard for the player to say anything other than it is the right decision when he is dry on options at that point.
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Yes, if he came back now and said he felt he had to go with Sweden because he wasn't Irish eligible at the time, but now the rules have changed and he is eligible he is keen to play for us I think that would be well received actually.
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I don't think anyone would have an issue with Johansson back-tracking if he now has the chance to, his hands were tied by FIFA in terms of what he could do at the time.
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Certainly not people here but the Swedes may not appreciate his behavior Pinch
It seems odd to me that his legal team were dealing with FIFA on this for months at the same time as FIFA were working on this significant rule change (which apparently took two years) - you'd think there would have been a word to say just sit back and wait for something we are working on which is a game-changer...

End of the day tho this is a lad who's never really played senior football and is only potential, like Sotona and countless other lads.

I wish him well.


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In the topic of deji Sotona anyone know why he hasn’t been involved underage with Ireland recently 
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Nathan Tormey, young left winger who has represented Ireland at underage level, is on trial with Rangers. He left Arsenal in the summer, turning down a new three year contract with them.
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Originally posted by Pauldaly1984 Pauldaly1984 wrote:

In the topic of deji Sotona anyone know why he hasn’t been involved underage with Ireland recently 
No idea.
Hopefully we dont lose him.
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Originally posted by Gary McKay Gary McKay wrote:

Originally posted by Pauldaly1984 Pauldaly1984 wrote:

In the topic of deji Sotona anyone know why he hasn’t been involved underage with Ireland recently 
No idea.
Hopefully we dont lose him.

Because there have been other options ahead of him I'd imagine. We're fairly flush with strikers throughout our underage levels. Nothing to suggest he's going anywhere other than the fact he's of Nigerian heritage.
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Can play for England too.
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Random question about the new rules if a player over the age of 21 earns a cap is he then tied or must they be played another 3 times to be permanent 

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Originally posted by Gary McKay Gary McKay wrote:

Can play for England too.

Has he given any indication he's declaring for England?
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Originally posted by lassassinblanc lassassinblanc wrote:

Random question about the new rules if a player over the age of 21 earns a cap is he then tied or must they be played another 3 times to be permanent 


My understanding is that the new rules are specifically targeting 
players u21 that have not played in a senior major tournament.

The older standing rules that include players over 21 that have not played a  competitive game are still allowed to change national teams once. 
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Originally posted by Gary McKay Gary McKay wrote:

Can play for England too.
how does he qualify?
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May lived there long enough, or many Irish Nigerians have relations in England. Was always a highly rated talent though so not very plausible he wouldn't have been good enough to ever make our squads since Under-16 level if you have any objective sense of reality. Only Parrott rated higher out of the attackers in his age group squads.  Having dual or treble eligibility just makes him even more likely to be picked as not doing so would just encourage him to explore other options and imagine the outrage if the FAI did that if he turns out as good as he clearly rates himself to be.
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Originally posted by Conan Conan wrote:

May lived there long enough, or many Irish Nigerians have relations in England. Was always a highly rated talent though so not very plausible he wouldn't have been good enough to ever make our squads since Under-16 level if you have any objective sense of reality. Only Parrott rated higher out of the attackers in his age group squads.  Having dual or treble eligibility just makes him even more likely to be picked as not doing so would just encourage him to explore other options and imagine the outrage if the FAI did that if he turns out as good as he clearly rates himself to be.

So your "objective view of reality" is to make an assumption based on no concrete evidence whatsoever? If he's made himself unavailable for Ireland then why has he made not made himself available for England or Nigeria instead?
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He was 16 and 17 so any number of reasons he didn't play in our Euro U17 team.
We'll know more when the next U19 games come around.
He's not doing anything yet to suggest he'll be an international for anyone.

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Obafemi is treated in a similar vein.

The prevalent attitude on here that Irish-born black players have to do more to prove their commitment to Ireland and should be viewed with certain amount of suspicion ought to trouble us all.


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Originally posted by NewtNewbie NewtNewbie wrote:

Obafemi is treated in a similar vein.

The prevalent attitude on here that Irish-born black players have to do more to prove their commitment to Ireland and should be viewed with certain amount of suspicion ought to trouble us all.


I'm not sure that's fair - it's mainly because they inherently are very likely to have more than one choice.
and their choices should be respected.
Obafemi is an Irish international and deservedly so.
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