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J89 ![]() Ray Houghton ![]() Joined: 25 Mar 2018 Status: Offline Points: 3112 |
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Has six caps for NI |
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armahibee ![]() Liam Brady ![]() Joined: 11 Apr 2012 Location: belfast Status: Offline Points: 2001 |
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sh*te, hoping he had slipped through the cracks
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Badgersboys9 ![]() Liam Brady ![]() Joined: 12 Oct 2019 Status: Offline Points: 2258 |
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Kenny has approached him seemly.
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J89 ![]() Ray Houghton ![]() Joined: 25 Mar 2018 Status: Offline Points: 3112 |
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From John Fallon's article about the press conference:
Another defender who could be among the squad for the September clashes with France and Netherlands is Dennis Cirkin. Kenny has been aware of the left-sided player’s Dublin birthplace since taking over as U21 manager in 2019 but his enhanced profile during Sunderland’s surge to the playoffs made him a viable contender. Cirkin represented England, where his parents hail from, up to U20 level. Enquiries about his eligibility considering tweaked Fifa rules on switching allegiances are ongoing. “I know all about Dennis,” revealed the boss. “He declared for England, so we’ll have to see on that one. “He’s just focussing on Sunderland this season. I’ve asked that question and I’m not even 100% sure. It’s yet to be confirmed that he can switch and he hasn’t applied to do so.” Really hope by where his parents hail from he meant where they live because that's shocking for someone that's meant to be a journalist. He's also an Irish citizen by birth so not sure what needs to be confirmed about can he switch Edited by J89 - 02 Jun 2023 at 10:04am |
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Maccatacca ![]() Ray Houghton ![]() Joined: 01 Jun 2016 Status: Online Points: 3814 |
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John Fallon is wrong about anything dual-eligable 100% of the time.
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giveittochristie ![]() Kevin Kilbane ![]() Joined: 21 Oct 2015 Status: Offline Points: 282 |
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This. Dreadful journalist. In a separate article about Jake O'Brien he calls Man City "Saudi-owned". Also - it doesnt seem like the contact from Kenny was all that recent. Nothing to report here really. Edited by giveittochristie - 02 Jun 2023 at 11:23am |
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Badgersboys9 ![]() Liam Brady ![]() Joined: 12 Oct 2019 Status: Offline Points: 2258 |
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He's just quoting Kenny.
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You Tell Me ![]() Jack Charlton ![]() Joined: 05 Sep 2010 Status: Offline Points: 6329 |
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That's a desperately poor article all round - Fallon sets it up as being that Cirkin is a genuine contender for a squad place in September. That's then backed up by quotes that say nothing of the sort - they say that he has declared for England, he's focusing on his club and Kenny's not even 100% sure he's eligible anyway. And it's nearly as bad from Kenny with the "it's yet to be confirmed that he can switch" comment. Of course he can switch, he was born in Ireland at a time when anyone born on the island was automatically eligible for Irish citizenship. He can switch if he wants to, Kenny should know that and it's telling that he doesn't seem to. Just shows the state of things on both sides of the press conference table right now to be honest.
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John Nice ![]() Ray Houghton ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 Sep 2021 Location: Wexford Status: Online Points: 4790 |
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Kenny Out!
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Idah Dream!
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John Nice ![]() Ray Houghton ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 Sep 2021 Location: Wexford Status: Online Points: 4790 |
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While Cirkin is clearly a player with a bit of ability, it should be pointed out that we have several options coming through in the LB position, while many on here are also bemoaning the fact that Manning hasnt made the squad. Any/all of Adaramola, Furlong, Roughan and even Bagan could be playing regular Championship football next season. Cirkin is with the English U21s currently, is eligible for Latvia, the country of his parents' birth, likely Russia too. He also happens to be Irish eligible by birth (think he left Ireland when he was under 2yo), but he is unlikely to have any natural affinity to us which is entirely understandable. I wouldnt die in a ditch over this lad.
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Idah Dream!
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John Nice ![]() Ray Houghton ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 Sep 2021 Location: Wexford Status: Online Points: 4790 |
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What is telling is you continuing to have a go at Kenny at every single available opportunity often on the flimsiest of pretexts. Seriously give it a rest man, we get it, you dont rate him and you want rid, you arent alone in that, but banging on over every single little issue just comes across as petty tbh.
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Idah Dream!
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You Tell Me ![]() Jack Charlton ![]() Joined: 05 Sep 2010 Status: Offline Points: 6329 |
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It's pretty bad if the national team manager doesn't know the eligibility rules after three years in the job in fairness.
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SeaSharp ![]() Liam Brady ![]() Joined: 09 Jun 2022 Location: Ingerlund Status: Offline Points: 1301 |
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John Nice ![]() Ray Houghton ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 Sep 2021 Location: Wexford Status: Online Points: 4790 |
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My point is he's not ahead of Manning who isnt in the current squad and any/all of the four other lads listed could very well be playing at the same level as him next season. Furlong in particular has impressed me on his first foray in to senior mens football, while I'm aware that others on here are excited by Roughan, while Adaramola made the bench for Palace in the PL for the last two games of the season. Cirkin is older than those 3 also - 16 months older than Roughan. Bagan also looked a decent prospect 2 seasons ago, but injury seems to have stalled his progress. Cirkin had a stop start season for Sunderland, tbf mainly due to a succession of injuries. I wasnt overly impressed with him on the couple of occasions I have seen him play, but he clearly has ability if he is playing regularly in the Championship at 20/21 and winning underage caps for England. I just dont think it's a particular issue to get worked up about.
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Idah Dream!
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John Nice ![]() Ray Houghton ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 Sep 2021 Location: Wexford Status: Online Points: 4790 |
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Jon Gallagher scored again for Austin FC last night in the MLS, thats 5 goals and an assist in 12 starts this season playing as a Right Wing Back. 27 now which might work against him, but with Coleman's career likely coming to an end in the not too distant future, could he be an option?
Ronan also seems to be going well enough over there.
Worth noting that Greece have had two MLS players involved in recent squads - ex-Celtic player Giakoumakis now at Atlanta started their last game. He has 9 goals in 7 starts and 5 sub apps this season, so clearly in form. |
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Idah Dream!
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darmack ![]() Ray Houghton ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 Mar 2011 Location: Dublin Status: Offline Points: 4610 |
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Convienient that he was born here, another looking for an Irish passport......
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The dark side.. And the light
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CillDara ![]() 500 Club la la la ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Aug 2011 Location: Kildare Status: Offline Points: 715 |
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Agree that Cirkin probably doesn't have much of a connection to Ireland, but he is not going to be good enough to play for England. Then it's between Ireland and Latvia for his international career. Maybe he feels Latvian and will play for them, fair play if so, but if he is thinking about going to a tournament we are his most likely option to get to one.
Wouldn't lose any sleep over whatever happens anyway as we have similar level options now and a good few lads who could kick on in that position over the next 2 or 3 years.
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The O'Shea ![]() Jack Charlton ![]() ![]() I know everything and I’m NEVER wrong Joined: 16 Aug 2013 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 8831 |
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I think Cirkin's parents are ethnic Russians born in Latvia, so it's possible he doesn't feel a huge connection with Latvia either. I reckon he'll be sticking with England for a few more years anyway.
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