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Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

As usual, Wales don't wait around for things to get messy.

It's easier for them to do that though, their depth is limited enough that they have to call up League 2 players reasonably regularly, so if some kid makes a few appearances in the Premier League it's no problem for them to add them in if they're willing to commit. Same with the north.


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Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

As usual, Wales don't wait around for things to get messy.

It's easier for them to do that though, their depth is limited enough that they have to call up League 2 players reasonably regularly, so if some kid makes a few appearances in the Premier League it's no problem for them to add them in if they're willing to commit. Same with the north.

It's easy for anyone to do it, you just do it. For whatever reason, we don't.
We're decent enough..
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Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

As usual, Wales don't wait around for things to get messy.

It's easier for them to do that though, their depth is limited enough that they have to call up League 2 players reasonably regularly, so if some kid makes a few appearances in the Premier League it's no problem for them to add them in if they're willing to commit. Same with the north.

It's easy for anyone to do it, you just do it. For whatever reason, we don't.
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Originally posted by Conan Conan wrote:

Originally posted by TheNumber6 TheNumber6 wrote:

Originally posted by Conan Conan wrote:



What a load of waffle.. Vítoria would wipe the floor with any of the teams associated with the players mentioned above. Please, refer to their recent (Tapsoba, Edwards) and continuing (Bamba, Andre Almeida) production line. Braga, another team outside the Big 3 were in the knockout stages of Europa league and sold their striker for 30million to Marseille. 

I know one or two people who spend a lot of time watching Vitoria and all rate him.
You have a large posse of amigos in Guimaraes then? Vitoria are well behind the teams above....they are the equivalent of Hearts or Hibs. Would you pick players off their subs bench? So he's the 18th best player in a squad ranked 136th in Uefa coefficient, but those objective statistics against the opinion of your imaginary pals in some regional Portuguese town 
I expect you were one of those goons getting all excited about how Byrne and Crowley were getting a couple of assists at some diddy obscure club in the lower depths of the Eredivisie

Aye mate just Ze Carlos, the agent of Jota the other Vítoria winger who I know and a former Vítoria player Tabuaço. 
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Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

As usual, Wales don't wait around for things to get messy.

It's easier for them to do that though, their depth is limited enough that they have to call up League 2 players reasonably regularly, so if some kid makes a few appearances in the Premier League it's no problem for them to add them in if they're willing to commit. Same with the north.

It's easy for anyone to do it, you just do it. For whatever reason, we don't.

Well, not really. Harris has played 10 minutes of Premier League football this season. The equivalent for us would be calling up Andrew Moran, which nobody is suggesting we do and would involve skipping him ahead of the likes of Smallbone and Hodge, who each have their own claims on a call up and have more football under their belt. We'd have to call up 30+ players to every squad if we were going to start fitting in lads that have played as little as that.

Wales can afford to do it because they have far less talent coming through and once you get past their first 15 to 18 players the rest of their squad is lower league crap that's there just to make up the numbers.


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Originally posted by dangere_here dangere_here wrote:

Originally posted by TheNumber6 TheNumber6 wrote:

Originally posted by Conan Conan wrote:

I think Whoscored ratings are a great objective way to evaluate how a player is getting on (as opposed to nationally subjective fan forums for instance) The ones who are towards the top of each league are precisely the ones you'd expect to be, watching their performances. Only flaw is it doesn't favour players who come on as subs a lot. 
Outside the big three in Portugal though the standard is mediocre so if he's not getting in the team he can't be playing too well. Managers will pick the players they think will win them win games as they are all under pressure to do that, makes no difference whether they were on loan or not. If we're playing wingers you've got Robinson, O'Dowda, Sykes and Ogbene obviously ahead of him and likes of Knight, McClean, Brady and Manning could be deployed there. He'll just get shunted in to the squad like Hamilton just because Kenny got him on board, not to improve us.

What a load of waffle.. Vítoria would wipe the floor with any of the teams associated with the players mentioned above. Please, refer to their recent (Tapsoba, Edwards) and continuing (Bamba, Andre Almeida) production line. Braga, another team outside the Big 3 were in the knockout stages of Europa league and sold their striker for 30million to Marseille. 

I know one or two people who spend a lot of time watching Vitoria and all rate him.

And I know a few lads down the pub, means nothing.

Well, one of the individuals I was referring to played against him as recently as December. 
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Originally posted by Conan Conan wrote:

Originally posted by TheNumber6 TheNumber6 wrote:

Originally posted by Conan Conan wrote:



What a load of waffle.. Vítoria would wipe the floor with any of the teams associated with the players mentioned above. Please, refer to their recent (Tapsoba, Edwards) and continuing (Bamba, Andre Almeida) production line. Braga, another team outside the Big 3 were in the knockout stages of Europa league and sold their striker for 30million to Marseille. 

I know one or two people who spend a lot of time watching Vitoria and all rate him.
You have a large posse of amigos in Guimaraes then? Vitoria are well behind the teams above....they are the equivalent of Hearts or Hibs. Would you pick players off their subs bench? So he's the 18th best player in a squad ranked 136th in Uefa coefficient, but those objective statistics against the opinion of your imaginary pals in some regional Portuguese town 
I expect you were one of those goons getting all excited about how Byrne and Crowley were getting a couple of assists at some diddy obscure club in the lower depths of the Eredivisie

Re Hibs/Hearts comparison, Vítoria in the last 3yrs have sold Tapsoba for 20m to Leverkusen, Almeida to Valencia for 8mill and Edwards to Sporting for same. Vítoria signed Quaresma, Hibs signed McGeady. I am confident Hibs’ highest sale was 2m for Martin Boyle.
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Under 20 call up Tom Hill is in the U21 squad.... for Wales. Another lad who'll be fast tracked if he gets within a sniff of a match day squad.
We're decent enough..
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With the best will in the world I don't think Hill would even have made our Under 21s this year, never mind thinking about a senior call-up.
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Originally posted by Maccatacca Maccatacca wrote:

The Brits should have one football team.

Correct. Ironically none of the British regions would meet the current FIFA criteria for membership 
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Originally posted by zizu Kilbane zizu Kilbane wrote:

Originally posted by Maccatacca Maccatacca wrote:

The Brits should have one football team.

Correct. Ironically none of the British regions would meet the current FIFA criteria for membership 


What a load of crap. Britain invented and codified the game.

England, Scotland and Wales have the oldest national associations in the world, and along with the Irish FA, set up and consitute the IFAB which established the laws of the game and decides and rules on any proposed changes.

FIFA are happy to accept the Faroes, Gibraltar and Kosovo as members but not England or Scotland?

That's just nonsense.




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I'm not sure about Kosovo, but the Faroes and Gibraltar wouldn't get in under the current rules either. Gibraltar were basically the last makey-uppey country to get in before the door was closed.
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Originally posted by Sheedy11 Sheedy11 wrote:

Originally posted by zizu Kilbane zizu Kilbane wrote:

Originally posted by Maccatacca Maccatacca wrote:

The Brits should have one football team.

Correct. Ironically none of the British regions would meet the current FIFA criteria for membership 


What a load of crap. Britain invented and codified the game.

England, Scotland and Wales have the oldest national associations in the world, and along with the Irish FA, set up and consitute the IFAB which established the laws of the game and decides and rules on any proposed changes.

FIFA are happy to accept the Faroes, Gibraltar and Kosovo as members but not England or Scotland?

That's just nonsense.



What is nonsense is that some brit young lad from a made up brit island can play for any four of the brit teams.

Maybe to avoid the hassle just have 1 team, as ultimately they are all... brits.
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Originally posted by Maccatacca Maccatacca wrote:

The Brits should have one football team.

No we shouldn't.  We are different countries u ignoramus.  Rep of Ireland have only been a country for 100 years. Don't ever call me a brit. I'm English.  The home countries have existed as football nations for over 150 years 
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Originally posted by zizu Kilbane zizu Kilbane wrote:

[QUOTE=Maccatacca]The Brits should have one football team.

Correct. Ironically none of the British regions would meet the current FIFA criteria for membership 
[/QUOTE
Nonsense.  We ain't region's dipsh*t. I could easily aay Ireland isn't a real country 
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Originally posted by Sheedy11 Sheedy11 wrote:

Originally posted by zizu Kilbane zizu Kilbane wrote:

Originally posted by Maccatacca Maccatacca wrote:

The Brits should have one football team.

Correct. Ironically none of the British regions would meet the current FIFA criteria for membership 


What a load of crap. Britain invented and codified the game.

England, Scotland and Wales have the oldest national associations in the world, and along with the Irish FA, set up and consitute the IFAB which established the laws of the game and decides and rules on any proposed changes.

FIFA are happy to accept the Faroes, Gibraltar and Kosovo as members but not England or Scotland?

That's just nonsense.



Exactly except England invented the game not Britain 
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Originally posted by Englishborn Englishborn wrote:

Originally posted by Sheedy11 Sheedy11 wrote:

Originally posted by zizu Kilbane zizu Kilbane wrote:

Originally posted by Maccatacca Maccatacca wrote:

The Brits should have one football team.

Correct. Ironically none of the British regions would meet the current FIFA criteria for membership 


What a load of crap. Britain invented and codified the game.

England, Scotland and Wales have the oldest national associations in the world, and along with the Irish FA, set up and consitute the IFAB which established the laws of the game and decides and rules on any proposed changes.

FIFA are happy to accept the Faroes, Gibraltar and Kosovo as members but not England or Scotland?

That's just nonsense.



Exactly except England invented the game not Britain 

Calm down Tan.
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