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Originally posted by Green Devil Green Devil wrote:

Originally posted by Fruice Fruice wrote:

Originally posted by Green Devil Green Devil wrote:

Originally posted by kevin100 kevin100 wrote:

That England’s U21 squad would qualify for the Euros id have absolutely no doubt of that and they would also get close to the World Cup. It’s a frightening squad. Definitely a benefit to us in so far the likes of Hodge Smallbone etc won’t be looking at England thinking il be playing for them let’s dump Ireland. 

Also hopefully the likes of Delap might go under the radar a bit and decide to look at us. 

Che Adams declaring for Scotland for obvious reasons would be testament to that a decent attacker and the sort we might pick up through that backlog.

Is that what we've resorted to?

I mean for the first time in years, we are actually producing very talented young players and have also fallen in for some good young dual eligible players born in the UK, Germany, Spain etc.

Why is there still this desire to try and snare cast offs who will only declare for us when they know they're too old to play for England's underage sides and see us as a booby prize?

I mean f**king hell, Che Adams, he rejected Scotland twice before deciding to jump ship because they've finally qualified for a tournament.

Ireland have a really good underage National League structure in place currently, we've some very talented underage International sides with some great coaches guiding them. 

Priority should be focusing on developing our own or at least those dual eligible players who want to play with us when they're young players and pick us the first time of asking.
We have an underage league at the moment but it far from good.
And I’m sure there is good players in it and it will
probably become stronger over the next few seasons due to Brxit.

But our playing population is small and if we can add to this by picking up dual nationals from better underage set ups and would strengthen our position.
We would be off our head to say no.

I disagree wholeheartedly as someone who's involved in it,

The level of professionalism running right though most of these underage LOI sides is top notch and the standard is slowly but surely getting better each year.

I'm not against Ireland picking up dual eligible players at all, my point is that there needs to be some level of pride involved.

You ask a player once and that's it or better still they actually make the FAI aware and make the first move themselves, brilliant. 

That is evident by even the homegrown talent that’s on display form the 1999 crop up. Problem is it may take 4/5/6 years for them to learn their trade hit their peak and for our national team to start reaping the benefits and patience is needed especially around the young attackers no good pinning our lack of attackers on them.

I agree with the pride thing but if Che Adam’s decided to declare for us would you turn him down now? We did get players like Alderidge Houghton Townsend that arrived late. They might have only declared when we were the best option it doesn’t stop them from being legends. 

I hope we get to the stage we can look at a Che Adam and go yup that’s great but we have 3/4 attackers at your level or better that are our first preference I mean that genuinely in that our development of home grown youth back in motion we might get to that stage.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Green Devil Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Mar 2021 at 7:16pm
There is a huge difference between calling up a player who had never played for another nation before (Townsend and Aldridge) and a player who refused to accept a call up, not once but twice (Che Adams) and then jumping ship when he knows it's impossible to play for England.

It's also not about "getting to a stage where we can look past a Che Adam's" either. What sort of message does that send out to the young players in Scotland? The sole reason he's playing for Scotland is because they qualified for the Euro's, it's embarrassing.

Again, our priority should be developing our own and not waiting in the long grass for England's casts off.
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The image of Noel King waiting in long grass is a good one
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Will we have another Rice/Grealish saga or have we learnt from it and ask the serious questions to get players to declare for us and stay declared ?
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Originally posted by DeclanDaly DeclanDaly wrote:

The image of Noel King waiting in long grass is a good one

That kind of summed up the last 10-15 years for us though didn’t it 😂

Reliant on granny rulers. That’s how you know the grassroots work is being done again now the influx of young talent born in 1998-2002 which is actual Irish born and developed talent.


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Originally posted by Healy52003 Healy52003 wrote:

Will we have another Rice/Grealish saga or have we learnt from it and ask the serious questions to get players to declare for us and stay declared ?

Look that happens, even we get JJP for example and for talk sake he's a top player its worth ending up with egg in are face a few times, that will happen recruiting players. If 15 players say no its worth it if we get one player
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Originally posted by wexfordman1 wexfordman1 wrote:

Originally posted by Healy52003 Healy52003 wrote:

Will we have another Rice/Grealish saga or have we learnt from it and ask the serious questions to get players to declare for us and stay declared ?

Look that happens, even we get JJP for example and for talk sake he's a top player its worth ending up with egg in are face a few times, that will happen recruiting players. If 15 players say no its worth it if we get one player

When the 'At the moment i just want to concentrate on club football' line comes up from any dual international we know were f**ked and they have no interest in playing for us
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An exception to that was Scott Hogan, who looked like getting a move to West Ham at the time and no doubt harboured dreams of playing for England. He settled for Ireland eventually when he realised that was as good as it was going to get for him career wise. Never impressed or scored in any of the international games he played.
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Originally posted by Green Cockade Green Cockade wrote:

An exception to that was Scott Hogan, who looked like getting a move to West Ham at the time and no doubt harboured dreams of playing for England. He settled for Ireland eventually when he realised that was as good as it was going to get for him career wise. Never impressed or scored in any of the international games he played.

Ah yeah, he is definitely suspected of having a bit of next Jamie Vardy syndrome for a bit but he came back from it. 
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Is anyone aware if Lewis O’Brien is eligible? Obviously one is jumping to conclusions based on his surname. 

Edited by TigerRoll - 03 Apr 2021 at 1:56pm
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Originally posted by TigerRoll TigerRoll wrote:

Is anyone aware if Lewis O’Brien is eligible? Obviously one is jumping to conclusions based on his surname. 
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Has Big Sam not asked him yet?
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Originally posted by TigerRoll TigerRoll wrote:

Is anyone aware if Lewis O’Brien is eligible? Obviously one is jumping to conclusions based on his surname. 
Who does he play for?
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Originally posted by aviva8 aviva8 wrote:

Originally posted by TigerRoll TigerRoll wrote:

Is anyone aware if Lewis O’Brien is eligible? Obviously one is jumping to conclusions based on his surname. 
Who does he play for?

Huddersfield. Scored today and played very well. No idea on his eligibility but won't be world changing either way
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He's English, from Colchester. No record I can see of him ever being linked with Ireland.
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Originally posted by Nialler Nialler wrote:

Originally posted by aviva8 aviva8 wrote:

Originally posted by TigerRoll TigerRoll wrote:

Is anyone aware if Lewis O’Brien is eligible? Obviously one is jumping to conclusions based on his surname. 
Who does he play for?

Huddersfield. Scored today and played very well. No idea on his eligibility but won't be world changing either way

He’s also 22, and can only improve. We should be trying to throw the fish net out and see who’s there before refining the quality in the net. 
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Originally posted by TigerRoll TigerRoll wrote:

Originally posted by Nialler Nialler wrote:

Originally posted by aviva8 aviva8 wrote:

Originally posted by TigerRoll TigerRoll wrote:

Is anyone aware if Lewis O’Brien is eligible? Obviously one is jumping to conclusions based on his surname. 
Who does he play for?

Huddersfield. Scored today and played very well. No idea on his eligibility but won't be world changing either way

He’s also 22, and can only improve. We should be trying to throw the fish net out and see who’s there before refining the quality in the net. 
I find it interesting you say that he can only improve. Is that all young players? Let Kenny get on with overhauling our squad then.
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Originally posted by TigerRoll TigerRoll wrote:

Originally posted by Nialler Nialler wrote:

Originally posted by aviva8 aviva8 wrote:

Originally posted by TigerRoll TigerRoll wrote:

Is anyone aware if Lewis O’Brien is eligible? Obviously one is jumping to conclusions based on his surname. 
Who does he play for?

Huddersfield. Scored today and played very well. No idea on his eligibility but won't be world changing either way

He’s also 22, and can only improve. We should be trying to throw the fish net out and see who’s there before refining the quality in the net. 

We should rename this thread '23 and me' and have TigerRoll go around football clubs and have players spit into a tube.
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Originally posted by Left foot Left foot wrote:

Originally posted by TigerRoll TigerRoll wrote:

Originally posted by Nialler Nialler wrote:

Originally posted by aviva8 aviva8 wrote:

Originally posted by TigerRoll TigerRoll wrote:

Is anyone aware if Lewis O’Brien is eligible? Obviously one is jumping to conclusions based on his surname. 
Who does he play for?

Huddersfield. Scored today and played very well. No idea on his eligibility but won't be world changing either way

He’s also 22, and can only improve. We should be trying to throw the fish net out and see who’s there before refining the quality in the net. 

We should rename this thread '23 and me' and have TigerRoll go around football clubs and have players spit into a tube.

LOL
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