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Originally posted by daithi daithi wrote:

[QUOTE=Mr Brick]One would think a club like Celtic, which so proudly touts its Irish roots (some might even say flaunts) would have a greater input in the senior Irish squad with players who come through its youth system. Are Liam Miller and Colin Healy (in the modern era) the only ones? McGeady was born in Scotland. Packie Bonner, I think, went straight to the reserves while, currently, Lee O'Connor arrived from Manchester Utd. 

Not a great return from an "Irish" club although the SPL is hardly football's euthopia.
Sure why don’t you fire up an oul list there of all the Irish players in Celtics youth system over a period of time, if you need help try Alex or Hans Wink[
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Edited by Mr Brick - 17 Apr 2020 at 11:31am
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Originally posted by daithi daithi wrote:

Originally posted by Mr Brick Mr Brick wrote:

One would think a club like Celtic, which so proudly touts its Irish roots (some might even say flaunts) would have a greater input in the senior Irish squad with players who come through its youth system. Are Liam Miller and Colin Healy (in the modern era) the only ones? McGeady was born in Scotland. Packie Bonner, I think, went straight to the reserves while, currently, Lee O'Connor arrived from Manchester Utd. 

Not a great return from an "Irish" club although the SPL is hardly football's euthopia.
Sure why don’t you fire up an oul list there of all the Irish players in Celtics youth system over a period of time, if you need help try Alex or Hans Wink

What does that mean?
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Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

Originally posted by IrishCanadian IrishCanadian wrote:

Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

Originally posted by IrishCanadian IrishCanadian wrote:

Smallbone isn’t good enough for England unless he’s willing to hang around for 5 years to get possibly 1 cap. The top English youth coming through are easily better than him. 

Connor Ronan simply isn’t even close. There isn’t even a discussion there, he’s never playing for England. 

Joe Hodge is the only one good enough. 

Smallbone has broken through to playing Premier League football at 20 years of age; Hodge still has a hell of a long way to go before we can say the same for him. As things stand, Smallbone is in a much better position to play for Ireland or England than Hodge is.
He’s 20 with 2 appearances to his name, he hasn’t broken through to anything. 

Joe Hodge is one of the best players in his age group, Will Smallbone is nowhere near that. Being older doesn’t make you better. As things stand, thinking Smallbone has any chance of playing for England is just short of laughable. His competition is miles ahead. 

You are not understanding. Smallbone has already made the breakthrough, whereas Hodge hasn't. It's incredibly hard to make the breakthrough (especially at a team like Man City..) so there's still a massive amount of uncertainty around Hodge. Smallbone has already surpassed that "uncertainty" and is in a good position to take the next step towards establishing himself as a Premier League footballer. That automatically puts Smallbone way ahead of Hodge in terms of current likelihood to play international football.

I’m not misunderstanding anything, Smallbone has two appearances at 20 years old. He hasn’t broke through anything. 

You are correct though, Hodge is an uncertainty just as with every talented youth player. Smallbone is more of a certainty. A certainty that he isn’t even close to being good enough to play for England’s senior side. That automatically puts him below Hodge. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote The O'Shea Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Apr 2020 at 12:32pm
Originally posted by IrishCanadian IrishCanadian wrote:

Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

Originally posted by IrishCanadian IrishCanadian wrote:

Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

Originally posted by IrishCanadian IrishCanadian wrote:

Smallbone isn’t good enough for England unless he’s willing to hang around for 5 years to get possibly 1 cap. The top English youth coming through are easily better than him. 

Connor Ronan simply isn’t even close. There isn’t even a discussion there, he’s never playing for England. 

Joe Hodge is the only one good enough. 

Smallbone has broken through to playing Premier League football at 20 years of age; Hodge still has a hell of a long way to go before we can say the same for him. As things stand, Smallbone is in a much better position to play for Ireland or England than Hodge is.
He’s 20 with 2 appearances to his name, he hasn’t broken through to anything. 

Joe Hodge is one of the best players in his age group, Will Smallbone is nowhere near that. Being older doesn’t make you better. As things stand, thinking Smallbone has any chance of playing for England is just short of laughable. His competition is miles ahead. 

You are not understanding. Smallbone has already made the breakthrough, whereas Hodge hasn't. It's incredibly hard to make the breakthrough (especially at a team like Man City..) so there's still a massive amount of uncertainty around Hodge. Smallbone has already surpassed that "uncertainty" and is in a good position to take the next step towards establishing himself as a Premier League footballer. That automatically puts Smallbone way ahead of Hodge in terms of current likelihood to play international football.

I’m not misunderstanding anything, Smallbone has two appearances at 20 years old. He hasn’t broke through anything. 

You are correct though, Hodge is an uncertainty just as with every talented youth player. Smallbone is more of a certainty. A certainty that he isn’t even close to being good enough to play for England’s senior side. That automatically puts him below Hodge. 

Ok.
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Mr. Brick is no craic at all
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How would Dundalk, at their peak under Stephen Kenny, have fared in the SPL?
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[QUOTE=Mr. Snrub]Mr. Brick is no craic at all
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His is solid and reliable though
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Originally posted by 50%lesssugar&salt 50%lesssugar&salt wrote:

[QUOTE=Mr. Snrub]Mr. Brick is no craic at all
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His is solid and reliable though
Tends to construct his posts with no foundation though
Just because it's tradition does not make it right
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Originally posted by daithi daithi wrote:

Originally posted by 50%lesssugar&salt 50%lesssugar&salt wrote:

[QUOTE=Mr. Snrub]Mr. Brick is no craic at all
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His is solid and reliable though
Tends to construct his posts with no foundation though
He’s the hod carrier of the forum.
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Hi all. I'm new here so sorry if this has already been covered. Just been reading about Patrick Roberts maybe going back to Celtic permanently. Is he eligible for us atall? I know his parents are both Scousers but a scouser with an Irish name doesn't necessarily mean a connection. 
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Josh Martin, on the bench for Norwich tonight, is eligible for us.
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Anyone seen anything of En-neyah at Nottingham forest? Not really heard of him before but has played for us at u15, is an attacking midfielder and seems to be breaking through to the first team.
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Originally posted by Left foot Left foot wrote:

Anyone seen anything of En-neyah at Nottingham forest? Not really heard of him before but has played for us at u15, is an attacking midfielder and seems to be breaking through to the first team.

As far as I know, his only appearance for the first team this season was a nine-minute cameo against Chelsea in the Cup in January.
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Was En-Neyah not actually born in Ireland? He seems to have been doing well for Forests underage sides for ages, but is yet to make any real inroads with the first team.
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Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

Was En-Neyah not actually born in Ireland? He seems to have been doing well for Forests underage sides for ages, but is yet to make any real inroads with the first team.

Born in Morocco, brought up in Dublin, according to an article I read today.
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I’m a Celtic fan myself and never heard of Paddy Roberts having any Irish connections. Would be a decent addition to the squad though. 

Edited by Fitz - 20 Jun 2020 at 8:23pm
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No known Irish connections. He was outstanding for Celtic previously but hasn't hit the heights since.
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Not sure how Paddy Roberts came into the conversation?

He's a quality player, his career hasn't really panned out the way he'd expected too since he left Celtic.

     
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