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Originally posted by rainpaulo rainpaulo wrote:

Originally posted by danny10tot danny10tot wrote:

Signed for Chelsea for big money (from forrest i think it was) Scores a hatfull of goals for the Chelsea underage set up and has been fast tracked through the system and been sent out on loan as opposed to staying with the next gen chelsea side that lost to Villa in the final last week. 



Conor Clifford mark 2.

What is your opinion based on?
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Don't waste you're time MC, these 2 are lost causes. The 2 clueless posts above prove this, yet again. He's 15 ffs
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Originally posted by MC Hammered MC Hammered wrote:


Originally posted by rainpaulo rainpaulo wrote:

Originally posted by danny10tot danny10tot wrote:

Signed for Chelsea for big money (from forrest i think it was) Scores a hatfull of goals for the Chelsea underage set up and has been fast tracked through the system and been sent out on loan as opposed to staying with the next gen chelsea side that lost to Villa in the final last week. 



Conor Clifford mark 2.


What is your opinion based on?




Means absolutely fcuk all...reads like Clifford's cv is all.
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Hmm. Traphasntaclue me thinks
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Hmmm "just one more thing" ....
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Originally posted by FrankosHereNow FrankosHereNow wrote:

FFS, everybody does it. Spain had Marcos Senna, Italy had Camronesi, Germany have Podolski & Klose and AFAIK, they had no parentage or anything like that to tie them to those countries. It was only because they lived there.

Which is a far stronger connection than the likes of Townsend or Morrison had to us....

While this case is more complex in that he played for us underage, I really thought we had moved beyond the demeaning Charlton policy of 'England B'
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Originally posted by rainpaulo rainpaulo wrote:

Originally posted by MC Hammered MC Hammered wrote:


Originally posted by rainpaulo rainpaulo wrote:

Originally posted by danny10tot danny10tot wrote:

Signed for Chelsea for big money (from forrest i think it was) Scores a hatfull of goals for the Chelsea underage set up and has been fast tracked through the system and been sent out on loan as opposed to staying with the next gen chelsea side that lost to Villa in the final last week. 



Conor Clifford mark 2.


What is your opinion based on?




Means absolutely fcuk all...reads like Clifford's cv is all.

The same Conor Clifford who now plays for Leicester? There was i thinking players who play in the Championship wouldn't get within a million miles of the Ireland squad Confused


Edited by Green Devil - 12 Apr 2013 at 1:36am
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Jaysus the conor clifford remark is fair enough, young irish lad at chelsea sent out on loan
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Originally posted by nvidic nvidic wrote:

Jaysus the conor clifford remark is fair enough, young irish lad at chelsea sent out on loan



He's not on loan - he was released nor is he making any Leicester squads.

I can't see Leicester renewing his contact after the summer either.
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Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

Originally posted by nvidic nvidic wrote:

Jaysus the conor clifford remark is fair enough, young irish lad at chelsea sent out on loan



He's not on loan - he was released nor is he making any Leicester squads.

I can't see Leicester renewing his contact after the summer either.


he went on loan originally all over the place, i think its a fair enough comment
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He could be seen in the great white hopes thread in the next few years. Hopefully not though!
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Originally posted by roverstillidie roverstillidie wrote:


Originally posted by FrankosHereNow FrankosHereNow wrote:

FFS, everybody does it. Spain had Marcos Senna, Italy had Camronesi, Germany have Podolski & Klose and AFAIK, they had no parentage or anything like that to tie them to those countries. It was only because they lived there.


Which is a far stronger connection than the likes of Townsend or Morrison had to us....

While this case is more complex in that he played for us underage, I really thought we had moved beyond the demeaning Charlton policy of 'England B'n

so where are we now then, n.ireland b scotland b.....who cares where players are from if they have irish blood in them get the green jersey on them otherwise we would have a fairly poor team and history.demeaning charlton policy of england b

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Originally posted by GREENISLE GREENISLE wrote:

Originally posted by roverstillidie roverstillidie wrote:


Originally posted by FrankosHereNow FrankosHereNow wrote:

FFS, everybody does it. Spain had Marcos Senna, Italy had Camronesi, Germany have Podolski & Klose and AFAIK, they had no parentage or anything like that to tie them to those countries. It was only because they lived there.


Which is a far stronger connection than the likes of Townsend or Morrison had to us....

While this case is more complex in that he played for us underage, I really thought we had moved beyond the demeaning Charlton policy of 'England B'

so where are we now then, n.ireland b scotland b.....who cares where players are from if they have irish blood in them get the green jersey on them otherwise we would have a fairly poor team and history.

While i agree with what your saying pal to a certain extent, i don't want any old plastic paddy declaring for Ireland just to play international football so he can further his own career. If you get asked once by the FAI to declare and you say no, then forget about that player imo.


Edited by Green Devil - 13 Apr 2013 at 11:16am
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Originally posted by Green Devil Green Devil wrote:



Originally posted by GREENISLE GREENISLE wrote:

Originally posted by roverstillidie roverstillidie wrote:


Originally posted by FrankosHereNow FrankosHereNow wrote:

FFS, everybody does it. Spain had Marcos Senna, Italy had Camronesi, Germany have Podolski & Klose and AFAIK, they had no parentage or anything like that to tie them to those countries. It was only because they lived there.


Which is a far stronger connection than the likes of Townsend or Morrison had to us....

While this case is more complex in that he played for us underage, I really thought we had moved beyond the demeaning Charlton policy of 'England B'

so where are we now then, n.ireland b scotland b.....who cares where players are from if they have irish blood in them get the green jersey on them otherwise we would have a fairly poor team and history.


While i agree with what your saying pal to a certain extent, i don't want any old plastic paddy declaring for Ireland just to play international football so he can further his own career. If you get asked once by the FAI to declare and you say no, then forget about that player imo.

with the size of our country and the numbers that live here it is not the size of most teams from europe, if we have to dig into somebodies past (or family tree if you like) then so be it, nobody mentioned PLASTIC PADDY'S as you put it and i actually think it an insult to some of the former players we had and some of the players in the squad at the moment, i dont see how playing international football for us will enhance a players career as its not club football. if you go through the squad today how many where not born on this island. There is americans and italians claiming to be irish and if they have kids who are good at playing the beautiful game we should do all we can....IMO
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Maybe he was brought up in an irish community in nottingham and has a real sense of irishness. He may have been pressured to switch back to england by forces at nottingham forest who wanted to flog him for big money and we all know england caps massively inflate transfer fees.
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Originally posted by big nail big nail wrote:

we shouldnt be "trying" to get anyone to declare for us , they are either irish or not . they should bring in a rule you cant switch after under 15 .
I do think there should be an age of decision alright, perhaps with your first pro deal. It would end clubs trying to influence players. Obviously there would become exceptions, lie those who become pro later on in their twenties, but it would clear everything up.
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Originally posted by big nail big nail wrote:

we shouldnt be "trying" to get anyone to declare for us , they are either irish or not . they should bring in a rule you cant switch after under 15 .

I do think there should be an age of decision alright, perhaps with your first pro deal. It would end clubs trying to influence players. Obviously there would become exceptions, lie those who become pro later on in their twenties, but it would clear everything up.
so take for example ANTHONY PILKINGTON, where would he be now in regards to declaring for us? jon walters is another example. i dont think clubs should be allowed to influence anyone at all it should be up to the individual.
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Originally posted by GREENISLE GREENISLE wrote:

Originally posted by Clonbhoy Clonbhoy wrote:


Originally posted by big nail big nail wrote:

we shouldnt be "trying" to get anyone to declare for us , they are either irish or not . they should bring in a rule you cant switch after under 15 .

I do think there should be an age of decision alright, perhaps with your first pro deal. It would end clubs trying to influence players. Obviously there would become exceptions, lie those who become pro later on in their twenties, but it would clear everything up.
so take for example ANTHONY PILKINGTON, where would he be now in regards to declaring for us? jon walters is another example. i dont think clubs should be allowed to influence anyone at all it should be up to the individual.
From what I have heard of Walters he would always have declared fro us. As regards 'where would we be now?' I would rather not have him if we are little more than career propulsion for him
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