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    Posted: 21 Feb 2013 at 10:55pm
Anyone else on here watching the show on Nally? Interesting television.
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Good Man Nally,Defender of Rural Ireland...
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Padraig Nally Clap 
 
Eamonn Dunphy:"I'll tell you who wrote it, Rod Liddle, he's the guy who ran away and left his wife for a young one".

Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn
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Great Doc.  Very well handled.  The two lads at the start were great and got their side across very well and with compassion.  Nally got his story across well and with compassion too and the production was very good.  Good Editorial line on the doc too.  

Public Service Broadcasting at its best.
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Originally posted by eire32 eire32 wrote:

Good Man Nally,Defender of Rural Ireland...
 
Just a pity rural Ireland wanted nothing to do with the guy before he committed murder. Sitting there alone night after night with no-one giving a rashers about him
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Had it recorded but had seen it before. Good production alright. Closest Garda station was 25 miles away at the time. Wonder whether that station was a victim of last month's cut backs.
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Originally posted by roverstillidie roverstillidie wrote:

Originally posted by eire32 eire32 wrote:

Good Man Nally,Defender of Rural Ireland...
 
Just a pity rural Ireland wanted nothing to do with the guy before he committed murder. Sitting there alone night after night with no-one giving a rashers about him
  
 
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Can all the pro Nally guys explain something to me? What is the difference between him and the Scissor Sisters? Both cases involved a dead 'scumbag' and the hiding of the body. In the ladies case he actually attacked them. One is a hero, two are doing life. Don't get it.
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Originally posted by roverstillidie roverstillidie wrote:

Can all the pro Nally guys explain something to me? What is the difference between him and the Scissor Sisters? Both cases involved a dead 'scumbag' and the hiding of the body. In the ladies case he actually attacked them. One is a hero, two are doing life. Don't get it.
The way the media reported it is one thing. I suppose chopping up the body and throwing it in a canal isn't a great image either.
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Originally posted by roverstillidie roverstillidie wrote:

Can all the pro Nally guys explain something to me? What is the difference between him and the Scissor Sisters? Both cases involved a dead 'scumbag' and the hiding of the body. In the ladies case he actually attacked them. One is a hero, two are doing life. Don't get it.
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I think his neighbours were mean't to have been very good to him and he was well liked in the community so Im not sure if its fair to say that "rural Ireland wanted nothing to do with him". Do ya know that for sure?!

It's not a case Id be celebrating or condemning as the state failed him. I don't feel there was any badness in him.Didnt he say he say he was relieved to be going to jail so he'd be safe when he first went inside?! When you hear something like that from the man, its sad thing to hear. He was constantly afraid.An awful situation to be in for somebody living on their own.

Whether its a traveller or anyone else harrassing somebody,as brutal as his fate was, well Id have very little sympathy for them. When the state doesn't protect vulnerable people, they'll resort to desperate measures like in that instance. I feel sorry for Nally because that was the only way he could see it stopping.




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I agree with everything he done but at the same time, if everyone done it, the place would be like America.
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Originally posted by seanyshuffler seanyshuffler wrote:

thing. I suppose chopping up the body and throwing it in a canal isn't a great image either.
 
Nor is shooting someone in the back, beating them with a plank of wood, going indoors for more ammo, a headshot on a guy on the deck and then hiding the body in a ditch.
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Originally posted by MayoMark MayoMark wrote:

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Very much so. Two cases around the same time with generally similar circumstances.
 
One case becomes a cause celebre. One case they got what they deserved. Why the double standard?
 
Is it a class thing? Rural middle aged farmer versus two inner city Dub youngwans?
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@roverstillidie
I think his neighbours were mean't to have been very good to him and he was well liked in the community so Im not sure if its fair to say that "rural Ireland wanted nothing to do with him". Do ya know that for sure?!
 
There was a lot of comment at the time that he was clearly losing it, had drifted away from the world to sit on his porch with his shooter. No-one checked in on him or rang anyone in authority.

Originally posted by irishmufc irishmufc wrote:

@It's not a case Id be celebrating or condemning as the state failed him. I don't feel there was any badness in him.Didnt he say he say he was relieved to be going to jail so he'd be safe when he first went inside?! When you hear something like that from the man, its sad thing to hear. He was constantly afraid.An awful situation to be in for somebody living on their own.
 
I agree. But it could just as easily have been the postman he shot. I don't dispute the Gardai are useless. A shot into the sky would have done the trick.

Originally posted by irishmufc irishmufc wrote:

@Whether its a traveller or anyone else harrassing somebody,as brutal as his fate was, well Id have very little sympathy for them. When the state doesn't protect vulnerable people, they'll resort to desperate measures like in that instance. I feel sorry for Nally because that was the only way he could see it stopping.
 
So he set out to do it? That is, well, murder.
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Originally posted by corkery corkery wrote:

I agree with everything he done but at the same time, if everyone done it, the place would be like America.
 
So logically you support the scissor sisters and if not, why not?
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Originally posted by roverstillidie roverstillidie wrote:

Originally posted by seanyshuffler seanyshuffler wrote:

thing. I suppose chopping up the body and throwing it in a canal isn't a great image either.

 

Nor is shooting someone in the back, beating them with a plank of wood, going indoors for more ammo, a headshot on a guy on the deck and then hiding the body in a ditch.


Thanked ya by accident there but both acts themselves are shocking. nobody can deny that but Nally obviously wasn't in a sound state of mind. I think the other case was shocking to the public in how calculating the two sisters were doing it without remorse.They knew what they were doing. Thats my understanding of it.
What makes the Nally one frightening is you had an otherwise placid individual resort to an act like that. You dont know what you'd be capable of if you were ever pushed into a situation like that
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Originally posted by roverstillidie roverstillidie wrote:

Originally posted by irishmufc irishmufc wrote:

@roverstillidie
I think his neighbours were mean't to have been very good to him and he was well liked in the community so Im not sure if its fair to say that "rural Ireland wanted nothing to do with him". Do ya know that for sure?!

 

There was a lot of comment at the time that he was clearly losing it, had drifted away from the world to sit on his porch with his shooter. No-one checked in on him or rang anyone in authority.

Originally posted by irishmufc irishmufc wrote:

@It's not a case Id be celebrating or condemning as the state failed him. I don't feel there was any badness in him.Didnt he say he say he was relieved to be going to jail so he'd be safe when he first went inside?! When you hear something like that from the man, its sad thing to hear. He was constantly afraid.An awful situation to be in for somebody living on their own.

 

I agree. But it could just as easily have been the postman he shot. I don't dispute the Gardai are useless. A shot into the sky would have done the trick.

Originally posted by irishmufc irishmufc wrote:

@Whether its a traveller or anyone else harrassing somebody,as brutal as his fate was, well Id have very little sympathy for them. When the state doesn't protect vulnerable people, they'll resort to desperate measures like in that instance. I feel sorry for Nally because that was the only way he could see it stopping.

 

So he set out to do it? That is, well, murder.


Not in that sense tbh. The act itself would be considered murder but he clearly had diminished responsibility.I dont think it was as premeditated as much as it was heat of the moment.He decided to finish him off while he was in an unfit state of mind. Is it still considered murder if he's of unsound mind at that time ?!
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