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Jimmy Raggatip
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Posted: 20 Nov 2023 at 9:31pm |
they would all start for us on the basis of tonight
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Luis Amor Rodriguez
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Posted: 20 Nov 2023 at 9:37pm |
You Tell Me wrote:
Other than in defence and defensive midfield they have nothing at all coming through. We have about a dozen forwards playing in the top two divisions in England (as well as the Eredivisie), they don't seem to have any. Either of our under 21 strikers would likely start for their senior team. Their only Premier League players are a 35 year old and a lad that retired from international duty about four years ago. They look to have some very bleak times ahead of them, even by their own standards. |
For a so-called poor team and maligned manager, they're currently beating Denmark 2-0.... a better result than any achieved by Kenny in five campaigns as a manager. 
As I was saying above, they have some good young players coming through, some of whom we've possibly dropped the ball in missing out on.
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The O'Shea
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Posted: 20 Nov 2023 at 9:44pm |
Luis Amor Rodriguez wrote:
You Tell Me wrote:
Other than in defence and defensive midfield they have nothing at all coming through. We have about a dozen forwards playing in the top two divisions in England (as well as the Eredivisie), they don't seem to have any. Either of our under 21 strikers would likely start for their senior team. Their only Premier League players are a 35 year old and a lad that retired from international duty about four years ago. They look to have some very bleak times ahead of them, even by their own standards. |
For a so-called poor team and maligned manager, they're currently beating Denmark 2-0.... a better result than any achieved by Kenny in five campaigns as a manager. 
As I was saying above, they have some good young players coming through, some of whom we've possibly dropped the ball in missing out on. |
They finished 5th in the perhaps the kindest Euro qualifying group ever. Shea Charles is the only young player they have that we might have got (Bradley committed to them early and never looked back, Hume was belting out GSTK tonight), and he can't get ahead of Smallbone at Southampton who many on here have written off.
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You Tell Me
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Posted: 20 Nov 2023 at 9:45pm |
Luis Amor Rodriguez wrote:
You Tell Me wrote:
Other than in defence and defensive midfield they have nothing at all coming through. We have about a dozen forwards playing in the top two divisions in England (as well as the Eredivisie), they don't seem to have any. Either of our under 21 strikers would likely start for their senior team. Their only Premier League players are a 35 year old and a lad that retired from international duty about four years ago. They look to have some very bleak times ahead of them, even by their own standards. |
For a so-called poor team and maligned manager, they're currently beating Denmark 2-0.... a better result than any achieved by Kenny in five campaigns as a manager. 
As I was saying above, they have some good young players coming through, some of whom we've possibly dropped the ball in missing out on. |
Best of luck to them, but that's on Kenny and is no reflection of the quality of players in the respective starting teams.
I believe that leaves us as the only (not last placed) team in the entire competition to fail to take even a single point from anyone other than the bottom ranked team in our group. The north were the only others before tonight. Says it all really.
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King_Kenny
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Posted: 20 Nov 2023 at 9:50pm |
The O'Shea wrote:
Luis Amor Rodriguez wrote:
You Tell Me wrote:
Other than in defence and defensive midfield they have nothing at all coming through. We have about a dozen forwards playing in the top two divisions in England (as well as the Eredivisie), they don't seem to have any. Either of our under 21 strikers would likely start for their senior team. Their only Premier League players are a 35 year old and a lad that retired from international duty about four years ago. They look to have some very bleak times ahead of them, even by their own standards. |
For a so-called poor team and maligned manager, they're currently beating Denmark 2-0.... a better result than any achieved by Kenny in five campaigns as a manager. 
As I was saying above, they have some good young players coming through, some of whom we've possibly dropped the ball in missing out on. |
They finished 5th in the perhaps the kindest Euro qualifying group ever. Shea Charles is the only young player they have that we might have got (Bradley committed to them early and never looked back, Hume was belting out GSTK tonight), and he can't get ahead of Smallbone at Southampton who many on here have written off. |
Hume plays for Sunderland.
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Posted: 20 Nov 2023 at 9:52pm |
King_Kenny wrote:
The O'Shea wrote:
Luis Amor Rodriguez wrote:
You Tell Me wrote:
Other than in defence and defensive midfield they have nothing at all coming through. We have about a dozen forwards playing in the top two divisions in England (as well as the Eredivisie), they don't seem to have any. Either of our under 21 strikers would likely start for their senior team. Their only Premier League players are a 35 year old and a lad that retired from international duty about four years ago. They look to have some very bleak times ahead of them, even by their own standards. |
For a so-called poor team and maligned manager, they're currently beating Denmark 2-0.... a better result than any achieved by Kenny in five campaigns as a manager. 
As I was saying above, they have some good young players coming through, some of whom we've possibly dropped the ball in missing out on. |
They finished 5th in the perhaps the kindest Euro qualifying group ever. Shea Charles is the only young player they have that we might have got (Bradley committed to them early and never looked back, Hume was belting out GSTK tonight), and he can't get ahead of Smallbone at Southampton who many on here have written off. |
Hume plays for Sunderland. |
Yes? And Shea Charles plays for Southampton. Read before you reply.
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Roberto Baggio
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Posted: 20 Nov 2023 at 10:03pm |
Football isn’t played on paper
Passion, being well set up and hard to score against comes into it We have none of that. Which is why we can only beat minnows
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Posted: 20 Nov 2023 at 10:09pm |
Roberto Baggio wrote:
Football isn’t played on paper
Passion, being well set up and hard to score against comes into it We have none of that. Which is why we can only beat minnows |
Exacty. They rode their luck in the first half but MON can still pull off a result.
Hope the FAI don't fook about in getting shot of Kenny after the NZ match.
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Posted: 20 Nov 2023 at 10:23pm |
irishmufc wrote:
Roberto Baggio wrote:
Football isn’t played on paper
Passion, being well set up and hard to score against comes into it We have none of that. Which is why we can only beat minnows |
Exacty. They rode their luck in the first half but MON can still pull off a result.
Hope the FAI don't fook about in getting shot of Kenny after the NZ match. |
NI beating an already qualified, under strength Denmark is "getting a result". I seem to remember whenever we did well in games where we were out of the qualification race, it was written off as being meaningless. NI rode their luck big time tonight - they had two shots on target and both resulted in goals. Ultimately, they still finished 5th in a group where the 2nd seed was weaker than our 4th seed. Michael O'Neill had a very productive first spell with NI, but he tanked at Stoke and now he's tanking in his 2nd bout with NI.
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Het-field
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Posted: 20 Nov 2023 at 10:24pm |
This will cause an existential crisis for some in this parish, tonight. Thinking ahead to Euro 2028, coming fifth out of five hosts could potentially (depending on how host qualifiers work) see us miss out entirely, even with the possibility of a final backstop of some sort of play-off between host nations.
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Posted: 20 Nov 2023 at 10:29pm |
The O'Shea wrote:
irishmufc wrote:
Roberto Baggio wrote:
Football isn’t played on paper
Passion, being well set up and hard to score against comes into it We have none of that. Which is why we can only beat minnows |
Exacty. They rode their luck in the first half but MON can still pull off a result.
Hope the FAI don't fook about in getting shot of Kenny after the NZ match. |
NI beating an already qualified, under strength Denmark is "getting a result". I seem to remember whenever we did well in games where we were out of the qualification race, it was written off as being meaningless. NI rode their luck big time tonight - they had two shots on target and both resulted in goals. Ultimately, they still finished 5th in a group where the 2nd seed was weaker than our 4th seed. Michael O'Neill had a very productive first spell with NI, but he tanked at Stoke and now he's tanking in his 2nd bout with NI. |
You beat who is in front of you. 6 losses from 8 games is an unacceptably poor return, even factoring in our group. The biggest aggregate margin of defeat was 4-1 against Greece. Beyond the narratives about greater building blocks for future campaigns, and the introduction of new players, we have had a worse campaign than the North.
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Posted: 20 Nov 2023 at 10:34pm |
Het-field wrote:
This will cause an existential crisis for some in this parish, tonight. Thinking ahead to Euro 2028, coming fifth out of five hosts could potentially (depending on how host qualifiers work) see us miss out entirely, even with the possibility of a final backstop of some sort of play-off between host nations. | Gonna be some craic if we don't qualify for Euro '28 and NI are the ones playing all their group games in Dublin.
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Jimmy Raggatip
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Posted: 20 Nov 2023 at 10:36pm |
not in full crisis mode but certainly could do without them remembering how to get jammy wins against tier one and two nations like they used to
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Posted: 20 Nov 2023 at 10:37pm |
It might actually be a cool way for people in the South to connect with our Orange brethern. We could take the high road, and support NI, build bridges.
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Posted: 20 Nov 2023 at 10:43pm |
The O'Shea wrote:
irishmufc wrote:
Roberto Baggio wrote:
Football isn’t played on paper
Passion, being well set up and hard to score against comes into it We have none of that. Which is why we can only beat minnows |
Exacty. They rode their luck in the first half but MON can still pull off a result.
Hope the FAI don't fook about in getting shot of Kenny after the NZ match. |
NI beating an already qualified, under strength Denmark is "getting a result". I seem to remember whenever we did well in games where we were out of the qualification race, it was written off as being meaningless. NI rode their luck big time tonight - they had two shots on target and both resulted in goals. Ultimately, they still finished 5th in a group where the 2nd seed was weaker than our 4th seed. Michael O'Neill had a very productive first spell with NI, but he tanked at Stoke and now he's tanking in his 2nd bout with NI. |
Probably because we beat teams like Luxembourg and Azerbaijan.
MON has got a better scalp (albeit against an already qualified side) than anything Kenny has ever done.
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Posted: 20 Nov 2023 at 10:53pm |
J89 wrote:
Het-field wrote:
This will cause an existential crisis for some in this parish, tonight. Thinking ahead to Euro 2028, coming fifth out of five hosts could potentially (depending on how host qualifiers work) see us miss out entirely, even with the possibility of a final backstop of some sort of play-off between host nations. |
Gonna be some craic if we don't qualify for Euro '28 and NI are the ones playing all their group games in Dublin. |
Well considering the NI fans have been singing you can shove Casement Park up yer hole that may not be as far fetched as it sounds
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Walters coming back from an offside position but Shane Long was definitely onside- Shane Lonnggggggg.... has done it!!!!
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Posted: 20 Nov 2023 at 10:54pm |
It’s not about getting a result in a dead rubber or Denmark resting main players
The thread was set up to belittle the north’s squad, which on paper is pretty sh*t. As I said last week on the thread we’d struggle to beat them when people were naming how few of theirs would make our squad
We’re a farce and have no place to be mocking any other teams to be honest
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Posted: 20 Nov 2023 at 10:55pm |
irishmufc wrote:
The O'Shea wrote:
irishmufc wrote:
Roberto Baggio wrote:
Football isn’t played on paper
Passion, being well set up and hard to score against comes into it We have none of that. Which is why we can only beat minnows |
Exacty. They rode their luck in the first half but MON can still pull off a result.
Hope the FAI don't fook about in getting shot of Kenny after the NZ match. |
NI beating an already qualified, under strength Denmark is "getting a result". I seem to remember whenever we did well in games where we were out of the qualification race, it was written off as being meaningless. NI rode their luck big time tonight - they had two shots on target and both resulted in goals. Ultimately, they still finished 5th in a group where the 2nd seed was weaker than our 4th seed. Michael O'Neill had a very productive first spell with NI, but he tanked at Stoke and now he's tanking in his 2nd bout with NI. |
Probably because we beat teams like Luxembourg and Azerbaijan.
MON has got a better scalp (albeit against an already qualified side) than anything Kenny has ever done.
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And those wins were pivotal in retaining support for Kenny. In fact, it probably washed away the massive blot of one point and one goal from the two home games against those teams.
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