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they would all start for us on the basis of tonight LOL
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Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

Other than in defence and defensive midfield they have nothing at all coming through. We have about a dozen forwards playing in the top two divisions in England (as well as the Eredivisie), they don't seem to have any. Either of our under 21 strikers would likely start for their senior team. Their only Premier League players are a 35 year old and a lad that retired from international duty about four years ago. They look to have some very bleak times ahead of them, even by their own standards. 

For a so-called poor team and maligned manager, they're currently beating Denmark 2-0.... a better result than any achieved by Kenny in five campaigns as a manager. Shocked

As I was saying above, they have some good young players coming through, some of whom we've possibly dropped the ball in missing out on. 
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Originally posted by Luis Amor Rodriguez Luis Amor Rodriguez wrote:

Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

Other than in defence and defensive midfield they have nothing at all coming through. We have about a dozen forwards playing in the top two divisions in England (as well as the Eredivisie), they don't seem to have any. Either of our under 21 strikers would likely start for their senior team. Their only Premier League players are a 35 year old and a lad that retired from international duty about four years ago. They look to have some very bleak times ahead of them, even by their own standards. 

For a so-called poor team and maligned manager, they're currently beating Denmark 2-0.... a better result than any achieved by Kenny in five campaigns as a manager. Shocked

As I was saying above, they have some good young players coming through, some of whom we've possibly dropped the ball in missing out on. 

They finished 5th in the perhaps the kindest Euro qualifying group ever. Shea Charles is the only young player they have that we might have got (Bradley committed to them early and never looked back, Hume was belting out GSTK tonight), and he can't get ahead of Smallbone at Southampton who many on here have written off.
We're decent enough..
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Originally posted by Luis Amor Rodriguez Luis Amor Rodriguez wrote:

Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

Other than in defence and defensive midfield they have nothing at all coming through. We have about a dozen forwards playing in the top two divisions in England (as well as the Eredivisie), they don't seem to have any. Either of our under 21 strikers would likely start for their senior team. Their only Premier League players are a 35 year old and a lad that retired from international duty about four years ago. They look to have some very bleak times ahead of them, even by their own standards. 

For a so-called poor team and maligned manager, they're currently beating Denmark 2-0.... a better result than any achieved by Kenny in five campaigns as a manager. Shocked

As I was saying above, they have some good young players coming through, some of whom we've possibly dropped the ball in missing out on. 

Best of luck to them, but that's on Kenny and is no reflection of the quality of players in the respective starting teams.

I believe that leaves us as the only (not last placed) team in the entire competition to fail to take even a single point from anyone other than the bottom ranked team in our group. The north were the only others before tonight. Says it all really.
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Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

Originally posted by Luis Amor Rodriguez Luis Amor Rodriguez wrote:

Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

Other than in defence and defensive midfield they have nothing at all coming through. We have about a dozen forwards playing in the top two divisions in England (as well as the Eredivisie), they don't seem to have any. Either of our under 21 strikers would likely start for their senior team. Their only Premier League players are a 35 year old and a lad that retired from international duty about four years ago. They look to have some very bleak times ahead of them, even by their own standards. 

For a so-called poor team and maligned manager, they're currently beating Denmark 2-0.... a better result than any achieved by Kenny in five campaigns as a manager. Shocked

As I was saying above, they have some good young players coming through, some of whom we've possibly dropped the ball in missing out on. 

They finished 5th in the perhaps the kindest Euro qualifying group ever. Shea Charles is the only young player they have that we might have got (Bradley committed to them early and never looked back, Hume was belting out GSTK tonight), and he can't get ahead of Smallbone at Southampton who many on here have written off.
Hume plays for Sunderland. 
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Originally posted by King_Kenny King_Kenny wrote:

Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

Originally posted by Luis Amor Rodriguez Luis Amor Rodriguez wrote:

Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

Other than in defence and defensive midfield they have nothing at all coming through. We have about a dozen forwards playing in the top two divisions in England (as well as the Eredivisie), they don't seem to have any. Either of our under 21 strikers would likely start for their senior team. Their only Premier League players are a 35 year old and a lad that retired from international duty about four years ago. They look to have some very bleak times ahead of them, even by their own standards. 

For a so-called poor team and maligned manager, they're currently beating Denmark 2-0.... a better result than any achieved by Kenny in five campaigns as a manager. Shocked

As I was saying above, they have some good young players coming through, some of whom we've possibly dropped the ball in missing out on. 

They finished 5th in the perhaps the kindest Euro qualifying group ever. Shea Charles is the only young player they have that we might have got (Bradley committed to them early and never looked back, Hume was belting out GSTK tonight), and he can't get ahead of Smallbone at Southampton who many on here have written off.
Hume plays for Sunderland. 

Yes? And Shea Charles plays for Southampton. Read before you reply.
We're decent enough..
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Football isn’t played on paper

Passion, being well set up and hard to score against comes into it 
We have none of that. Which is why we can only beat minnows 
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Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Football isn’t played on paper

Passion, being well set up and hard to score against comes into it 
We have none of that. Which is why we can only beat minnows 

Exacty. They rode their luck in the first half but MON can still pull off a result. 

Hope the FAI don't fook about in getting shot of Kenny after the NZ match. 
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Originally posted by irishmufc irishmufc wrote:

Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Football isn’t played on paper

Passion, being well set up and hard to score against comes into it 
We have none of that. Which is why we can only beat minnows 

Exacty. They rode their luck in the first half but MON can still pull off a result. 

Hope the FAI don't fook about in getting shot of Kenny after the NZ match. 

NI beating an already qualified, under strength Denmark is "getting a result". I seem to remember whenever we did well in games where we were out of the qualification race, it was written off as being meaningless. NI rode their luck big time tonight - they had two shots on target and both resulted in goals. Ultimately, they still finished 5th in a group where the 2nd seed was weaker than our 4th seed. Michael O'Neill had a very productive first spell with NI, but he tanked at Stoke and now he's tanking in his 2nd bout with NI.
We're decent enough..
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This will cause an existential crisis for some in this parish, tonight. Thinking ahead to Euro 2028, coming fifth out of five hosts could potentially (depending on how host qualifiers work) see us miss out entirely, even with the possibility of a final backstop of some sort of play-off between host nations.

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Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

Originally posted by irishmufc irishmufc wrote:

Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Football isn’t played on paper

Passion, being well set up and hard to score against comes into it 
We have none of that. Which is why we can only beat minnows 

Exacty. They rode their luck in the first half but MON can still pull off a result. 

Hope the FAI don't fook about in getting shot of Kenny after the NZ match. 

NI beating an already qualified, under strength Denmark is "getting a result". I seem to remember whenever we did well in games where we were out of the qualification race, it was written off as being meaningless. NI rode their luck big time tonight - they had two shots on target and both resulted in goals. Ultimately, they still finished 5th in a group where the 2nd seed was weaker than our 4th seed. Michael O'Neill had a very productive first spell with NI, but he tanked at Stoke and now he's tanking in his 2nd bout with NI.

You beat who is in front of you. 6 losses from 8 games is an unacceptably poor return, even factoring in our group. The biggest aggregate margin of defeat was 4-1 against Greece. Beyond the narratives about greater building blocks for future campaigns, and the introduction of new players, we have had a worse campaign than the North.
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Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

This will cause an existential crisis for some in this parish, tonight. Thinking ahead to Euro 2028, coming fifth out of five hosts could potentially (depending on how host qualifiers work) see us miss out entirely, even with the possibility of a final backstop of some sort of play-off between host nations.


Gonna be some craic if we don't qualify for Euro '28 and NI are the ones playing all their group games in Dublin.
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not in full crisis mode but certainly could do without them remembering how to get jammy wins against tier one and two nations like they used to
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It might actually be a cool way for people in the South to connect with our Orange brethern. We could take the high road, and support NI, build bridges. 
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Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

Originally posted by irishmufc irishmufc wrote:

Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Football isn’t played on paper

Passion, being well set up and hard to score against comes into it 
We have none of that. Which is why we can only beat minnows 

Exacty. They rode their luck in the first half but MON can still pull off a result. 

Hope the FAI don't fook about in getting shot of Kenny after the NZ match. 

NI beating an already qualified, under strength Denmark is "getting a result". I seem to remember whenever we did well in games where we were out of the qualification race, it was written off as being meaningless. NI rode their luck big time tonight - they had two shots on target and both resulted in goals. Ultimately, they still finished 5th in a group where the 2nd seed was weaker than our 4th seed. Michael O'Neill had a very productive first spell with NI, but he tanked at Stoke and now he's tanking in his 2nd bout with NI.

Probably because we beat teams like Luxembourg and Azerbaijan. 

MON has got a better scalp (albeit against an already qualified side) than anything Kenny has ever done. 


 


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Originally posted by J89 J89 wrote:

Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

This will cause an existential crisis for some in this parish, tonight. Thinking ahead to Euro 2028, coming fifth out of five hosts could potentially (depending on how host qualifiers work) see us miss out entirely, even with the possibility of a final backstop of some sort of play-off between host nations.


Gonna be some craic if we don't qualify for Euro '28 and NI are the ones playing all their group games in Dublin.

Well considering the NI fans have been singing you can shove Casement Park up yer hole that may not be as far fetched as it sounds 
Walters coming back from an offside position but Shane Long was definitely onside- Shane Lonnggggggg.... has done it!!!!
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It’s not about getting a result in a dead rubber or Denmark resting main players 

The thread was set up to belittle the north’s squad, which on paper is pretty sh*t. As I said last week on the thread we’d struggle to beat them when people were naming how few of theirs would make our squad 

We’re a farce and have no place to be mocking any other teams to be honest 
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Originally posted by irishmufc irishmufc wrote:

Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

Originally posted by irishmufc irishmufc wrote:

Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Football isn’t played on paper

Passion, being well set up and hard to score against comes into it 
We have none of that. Which is why we can only beat minnows 

Exacty. They rode their luck in the first half but MON can still pull off a result. 

Hope the FAI don't fook about in getting shot of Kenny after the NZ match. 

NI beating an already qualified, under strength Denmark is "getting a result". I seem to remember whenever we did well in games where we were out of the qualification race, it was written off as being meaningless. NI rode their luck big time tonight - they had two shots on target and both resulted in goals. Ultimately, they still finished 5th in a group where the 2nd seed was weaker than our 4th seed. Michael O'Neill had a very productive first spell with NI, but he tanked at Stoke and now he's tanking in his 2nd bout with NI.

Probably because we beat teams like Luxembourg and Azerbaijan. 

MON has got a better scalp (albeit against an already qualified side) than anything Kenny has ever done. 


 



And those wins were pivotal in retaining support for Kenny. In fact, it probably washed away the massive blot of one point and one goal from the two home games against those teams.
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