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Was talking to 2 fans before the Ireland/Croatia game in Poznan 2012 - one Irish fan and one Croatian Fan. The Irish fan had a Manc accent and the Croatian fan had an Aussie accent.
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Hate this question. It's like asking are there any dublin born fans!

We are all irish, the whole island.
Irish citizens with irish passports, even if we dont step foot outside of derry, newry or belfast in our lives.

Fair enough asking about irish fans from or living abroad, but dont put the north into that category. It's actually quite offensive 
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Originally posted by Pubes Pubes wrote:

Fair enough asking about irish fans from or living abroad, but dont put the north into that category. It's actually quite offensive 

Whereas this proud Irishman finds it offensive (well, more irritating actually) when people use the term "Ireland" when they mean not the island, but rather the Irish Republic.

Ditto when those same people protest that we should use "Ireland" for the state on the basis that it is the official name, yet refuse to use the name "Northern Ireland", despite that also being an official name.

And as for going to the trouble of typing out "the north", or "six counties" when a simple "NI" would suffice, that's plain silly imo.
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Originally posted by Territorial Territorial wrote:

Originally posted by Pubes Pubes wrote:

Fair enough asking about irish fans from or living abroad, but dont put the north into that category. It's actually quite offensive 

Whereas this proud Irishman finds it offensive (well, more irritating actually) when people use the term "Ireland" when they mean not the island, but rather the Irish Republic.

Ditto when those same people protest that we should use "Ireland" for the state on the basis that it is the official name, yet refuse to use the name "Northern Ireland", despite that also being an official name.

And as for going to the trouble of typing out "the north", or "six counties" when a simple "NI" would suffice, that's plain silly imo.

Not if you are a republican, "NI" is plain silly imo.


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'We are the sh*tes that say NI.'
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Originally posted by drog addict drog addict wrote:

Originally posted by Territorial Territorial wrote:

Originally posted by Pubes Pubes wrote:

Fair enough asking about irish fans from or living abroad, but dont put the north into that category. It's actually quite offensive 

Whereas this proud Irishman finds it offensive (well, more irritating actually) when people use the term "Ireland" when they mean not the island, but rather the Irish Republic.

Ditto when those same people protest that we should use "Ireland" for the state on the basis that it is the official name, yet refuse to use the name "Northern Ireland", despite that also being an official name.

And as for going to the trouble of typing out "the north", or "six counties" when a simple "NI" would suffice, that's plain silly imo.

Not if you are a republican, "NI" is plain silly imo.

So just because you don't like something, you feel entitled to deny its existence?

I don't like wet weather, but I accept that it rains a lot in Ireland.

Well in the north at least. Wink


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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

'We are the sh*tes that say NI.'

I see where you're coming from.

England.

In the United Kingdom.

The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
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Originally posted by Double Maxim Double Maxim wrote:

Northern Ireland a made up country. Big smile



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Originally posted by Double Maxim Double Maxim wrote:

Northern Ireland a made up country. Big smile


statelet
/ˈsteɪtlɪt/
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a small state, especially one that is closely affiliated to or has emerged from the break-up of a larger state.

     
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Amsterdam born. Been supporting Ireland as far back as I remember. 
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Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

Originally posted by Double Maxim Double Maxim wrote:

Northern Ireland a made up country. Big smile


statelet
/ˈsteɪtlɪt/
noun
a small state, especially one that is closely affiliated to or has emerged from the break-up of a larger state.


And your state is?

Don't tell me, I think I've got it...

Yes, here it is:

"A state of denial"

Definition:

not having fully accepted something

"Despite it being right on his doorstep, I think he's still in a state of denial about the existence of Northern Ireland."
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Originally posted by Pubes Pubes wrote:

Hate this question. It's like asking are there any dublin born fans!

We are all irish, the whole island.
Irish citizens with irish passports, even if we dont step foot outside of derry, newry or belfast in our lives.

Fair enough asking about irish fans from or living abroad, but dont put the north into that category. It's actually quite offensive 

Never got this myself. I'd say 95% of the support wouldn't bat an eye if your from the North. Think it's more of an inward thing to be honest. Sure when your on an away every county or town gets a bit of stick, if I sl*g a Dub/Cork lad ye got to expect something thrown back.

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"State of denial" coming from someone that calls N.I. a country ffs LOL 

No one denies N.I. exists. It's a statelet/part of the British state of the United Kingdom just as the rest of our country (Ireland) and India etc etc was previously part of the British state. India was still India, it's own country and nation just as Ireland was and is to this day.  





  
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Originally posted by Steve Amsterdam Steve Amsterdam wrote:

Amsterdam born. Been supporting Ireland as far back as I remember. 
Irish mum, Dutch dad that both still live in Dublin. Moved back here to start a pub empire Wink


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Originally posted by Steve Amsterdam Steve Amsterdam wrote:

Amsterdam born. Been supporting Ireland as far back as I remember. 
Irish mum, Dutch dad that both still live in Dublin. Moved back here to start a pub empire Wink

Just out of curiosity Steve if Ireland were playing the Netherlands, would there be a split loyalty or just 100% hoping Ireland win? I know you support the Netherlands anyway if Ireland isn't involved.  

It's not a test btw LOLWink
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Originally posted by irishmufc irishmufc wrote:

"State of denial" coming from someone that calls N.I. a country ffs LOL 

So England, Scotland and Wales don't exist either? Try telling that to 64m of my fellow Britons then, and let me know how you get on!

Originally posted by irishmufc irishmufc wrote:

No one denies N.I. exists.
Try telling that to some of your fellow countrymen and women then, since it's they who have the problem, not me.

Originally posted by irishmufc irishmufc wrote:

It's a statelet/part of the British state of the United Kingdom just as the rest of our country (Ireland) and India etc etc was previously part of the British state. India was still India, it's own country and nation just as Ireland was and is to this day.  
Just when you looked to be making progress, then you stumble.

You see, the geographical landmass which is modern day India always existed, but not as a single, political entity. My own knowledge is sketchy, but afaik it was a constantly changing collection of princely states and invading empires and colonies, with differing religions, ethnic groups and languages, sometimes at war with each other, at other times co-operating and merging.

It may even only ever have existed as a recognisably unitary state under the British. You know, just like Ireland Wink

Meanwhile, the "India" which got it's independence in 1948 itself divided into India and Pakistan, with the latter further sub-dividing to produce Bangladesh.

So just as your idea of a single "India" is not sustainable by reference either to the past or the present, then your insistence on a single Ireland (state, not island) is no more ordained, inevitable or immutable.

We exist, we've existed for all but a century, and we're quite capable of continuing to exist as long as you or I or anyone else living can foresee:
https://www.irishpost.com/news/less-30-northern-irish-people-vote-united-ireland-179760

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