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Peter Stöger
Davey Langan I am Wah. Joined: 10 Oct 2015 Status: Offline Points: 941 |
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I'd agree with much of what Het-field says, although I disagree that Kosovo are whipping boys. I know they conceeded 6 the other night but I wouldn't fancy playing them if we needed a win. Football has changed so much in the last seven or eight years with both tactics and physique that if you watch a game from the mid 90s it doesn't compare. However in 2016, I'd consider 'easy' games to be Andorra, Gib, Liechtenstein, Faroes, Malta, San Marino and maaaybe Moldova at a stretch. Anything else for us is tricky since most sides will be technically better than us so we're at a disadvantage from the start. Even teams like Finland, who used to play an old style Scandinavian game are now playing everything on the deck.
The problem I see is that we've done very little to evolve with football, while the other sides are more street-wise and tactically astute. I remember watching us beat Liechtenstein 4 nil at home in 94 and I think we were two goals up in the first couple of minutes, that wouldn't happen today for sure. The changing order in football means that we need to adapt or fall even further behind.
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grannyrule
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Only games I would see as 'easy' for Ireland are Andorra and San Marino. Anyone else is capable of scoring against us.
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Het-field
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In reality, we are not good enough to have that many "easy" games. However, there are games that we should win easily, even if we don't rack up large numbers of goals. I would include the likes of Moldova in that. While i suspect we will pull over the line tonight with only a little to spare, in Dublin we should be expecting an easy and without qualification 2/4-0 win.
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OnTheOneRoad
Ray Houghton Joined: 06 Nov 2014 Location: Dublin Status: Offline Points: 4190 |
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Bit of perspective after the post-match meltdown Thursday. Georgia might be a team we expect to beat, they may be ranked a hundred and whatever but they're no whipping boys
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Butch
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Wales were expected to beat Georgia and didn't . Great result for us but still doesn't make our performance anymore exceptableb
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Jack Charlton Man City records obsession Joined: 20 Mar 2012 Location: Dundalk Status: Offline Points: 9647 |
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Italy were 2-1 down v Macedonia and needed an ET winner for 3-2.
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The O'Shea
Jack Charlton I know everything and I’m NEVER wrong Joined: 16 Aug 2013 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 9540 |
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I think this is a classic example of a self-fulfilling prophecy. International football is no different to club football, there are great teams, terrible teams and everything in between. That pretty much necessitates that there will indeed be a number of "easy matches". The problem is that when you constantly reiterate the mantra that there are "no easy matches", you start to act under that assumption which obviously has psychological consequences that will impact on your performance....
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We're decent enough..
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FrankosHereNow
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Don't think Macedonia away is an easy game for anybody.
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oldbilly
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Agree there franko, they are ex yugoslav, and they were so good that after the breakup the split nations while not top drawer had to be useful.
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Devrozex
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After the results over the last few days it certainly looks like they are no easy games in our group anyway. Fairly crazy that Georgia are the bottom seeds in our group. I watched their game in Cardiff and, as a Welsh player admitted in his post-game interview, Wales were very fortunate to get a point at home to them. They are clearly miles better than the likes of Malta, San Marino etc. I was also thinking that if you didn't know anything about European football and you watched the first three rounds of fixtures in our group that it wouldn't be too ludicrous to come to the conclusion that Georgia were the strongest side in the group. Very unlucky not to win at home to Austria, definitely should have got something away to us and again unlucky not to beat Wales away. They look to get the ball down and play all the time.
Every team in the group should be beating Moldova at home but apart from that fixture everything else is either tough or a potential banana skin. We probably have the most interesting group in qualifying.
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MON was very defensive over our point against Serbia. Not an easy place to travel too, the old Austrians can vouch for us on that front. But there is no easy game in our group.We hope we don't drop silly points at home to Serbia or Macedonia
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Peter Stöger
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Rather drop them to Macedonia than anyone in our group
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Not major shocks this weekend, in fact our win in Austria was probably the biggest shock (betting odds wise - 3/1).
Only Estonia (1-8 v Belgium) And San Marino (0-8 v Germany) Getting a real hiding. |
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FrankosHereNow
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Gibraltar only beaten 3-1 by Cyprus and Faroe's only losing 2-0 to Switzerland.
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Had Cyprus -2.
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Would have been a nice one too.
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