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Originally posted by doherty doherty wrote:

If they want Carsley why would they bother talking to anyone else. What would be the point. 

I suspect this board is all about process and I would not be surprised they have done the classic get three quotes approach.  In this case speak to three managers and make a recommendation to the board from there. 
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Originally posted by TooOldForThis TooOldForThis wrote:

Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

https://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/international-soccer/fai-in-advanced-stage-in-hunt-for-new-manager-while-womens-boss-to-be-named-before-christmas/a1898481879.html

Seems like they've had initial talks with a number of people. Next stage is more formal and detailed talks with them.


Why do I get the feeling theses two spanners will come out with the most disappointing announcement ever
Any particular reason to label Canham a "spanner"? Dont recall any mud been thrown in his direction? 


No particular reason. Just a strong hunch the two of them will make a clusterf**k of this.  Two Brits who probably thinks Paddy will be grateful for Steve Bruce.

I also have an image of that scene from Only Fools and Horses when they are re-decorating Denzil's flat.

Del (Irish footballing public):  Go down the town and get me a yellow canary (good football manager).  Grandad: (Jonathan Hill)  Right
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Rodney: (journalists) ''we dont want a budgie (Allardyce) or a parrot (Bruce)
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Del:  ''If that thing has laid an egg I'm gonna kill you!''
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Originally posted by doherty doherty wrote:

If they want Carsley why would they bother talking to anyone else. What would be the point. 

Carsley is a gamble, could work out great, could be a disaster.

The more I think about it, the more I'm thinking my first choice is big Sam. Though we probably wouldn't be able to afford what he'd look for!
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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

What’s Emery thinking playing attacking high press high line football.  Does he not realise that Arsenal and City have better teams than him and he lost to Newcastle 5-1 playing an attacking style.  The clown should make Villa hard to beat.  He is only going to get embarrassed.  

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Originally posted by BabbsBalls BabbsBalls wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

What’s Emery thinking playing attacking high press high line football.  Does he not realise that Arsenal and City have better teams than him and he lost to Newcastle 5-1 playing an attacking style.  The clown should make Villa hard to beat.  He is only going to get embarrassed.  

You've never kicked a ball in your life, have you ?

😀😀😀 ffs did you really just post that on an internet forum. Are you 12 or something.  I am a better footballer than you is your argument.   To answer your question, yes I have played football.  I hope you picked up the sarcasm in the original post.  
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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

What’s Emery thinking playing attacking high press high line football.  Does he not realise that Arsenal and City have better teams than him and he lost to Newcastle 5-1 playing an attacking style.  The clown should make Villa hard to beat.  He is only going to get embarrassed.  

Villa are a quality side. We are not.
Walters coming back from an offside position but Shane Long was definitely onside- Shane Lonnggggggg.... has done it!!!!
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But they were hapless under a previous manager and are they better on paper than city and arsenal.  
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"We know which pot we are in in the [men's] Nations League, we could possibly get Wales and England and I would be very confident those games would sell out."

I fee like this quote demonstrates where his mind is. Short term ticket sales and not medium to long term development. The type of guy that would gladly appoint Gary Rowett and delightfully observe a draw against England. Less outlay. Max income. 
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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

But they were hapless under a previous manager and are they better on paper than city and arsenal.  

They have spent fortunes of money and have an excellent team. Certainly not as good as City or Arsenal but no mugs. Just looking at the stats as well 39% possession and 3 shots on target so hardly an earth shattering performance.


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Originally posted by Stickittotheman Stickittotheman wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

But they were hapless under a previous manager and are they better on paper than city and arsenal.  

They have spent fortunes of money and have an excellent team. Certainly not as good as City or Arsenal but no mugs. Just looking at the stats as well 39% possession and 3 shots on target so hardly an earth shattering performance.

Funny that you ignore the city game where they had 22 (7 on target) shots to city’s 2. And had 46 per cent possession against city.  

The principle of this that you can take on teams that have better players and you don’t have to lie down and die. 



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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Originally posted by Stickittotheman Stickittotheman wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

But they were hapless under a previous manager and are they better on paper than city and arsenal.  

They have spent fortunes of money and have an excellent team. Certainly not as good as City or Arsenal but no mugs. Just looking at the stats as well 39% possession and 3 shots on target so hardly an earth shattering performance.

Funny that you ignore the city game where they had 22 (7 on target) shots to city’s 2. And had 46 per cent possession against city.  

The principle of this that you can take on teams that have better players and you don’t have to lie down and die. 


Who on here has suggested that we "lie down and die"?  To suggest we play a style and system that is suited to our players' talents and abilities is a far cry from saying we should " lie down and die." But I suspect you know that.
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Originally posted by Stickittotheman Stickittotheman wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

What’s Emery thinking playing attacking high press high line football.  Does he not realise that Arsenal and City have better teams than him and he lost to Newcastle 5-1 playing an attacking style.  The clown should make Villa hard to beat.  He is only going to get embarrassed.  

Villa are a quality side. We are not.

De paddies don't got no quality like Matty Cash, innit?
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Originally posted by doherty doherty wrote:

If they want Carsley why would they bother talking to anyone else. What would be the point. 

I'd say because he is under contract. They need to have contingency 
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Wonder if Brian Barry Murphy got a conversation 
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Originally posted by Shermanator1 Shermanator1 wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Originally posted by Stickittotheman Stickittotheman wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

But they were hapless under a previous manager and are they better on paper than city and arsenal.  

They have spent fortunes of money and have an excellent team. Certainly not as good as City or Arsenal but no mugs. Just looking at the stats as well 39% possession and 3 shots on target so hardly an earth shattering performance.

Funny that you ignore the city game where they had 22 (7 on target) shots to city’s 2. And had 46 per cent possession against city.  

The principle of this that you can take on teams that have better players and you don’t have to lie down and die. 


Who on here has suggested that we "lie down and die"?  To suggest we play a style and system that is suited to our players' talents and abilities is a far cry from saying we should " lie down and die." But I suspect you know that.

Plenty on here want Bruce and Allardyce who play that style of football.  Kind of like how West Ham played the other night against spurs or how inter played against barca under Jose.  The idea is that you don’t have the ball because you are at your most vulnerable when you do and are out of shape defensively.  That was trap too.  Villa and others have shown there is another way to to play against better teams.  
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It's not that people want Bruce and Allardyce. It's the fact that that is our market. Allardyce is a good manager and has always done relatively well with the clubs he has manager.

You don't get the England gig being a poor manager.

Our pool of managers that we get to choose from are most likely unemployed managers who are most likely pas their sell by date. Excluding Carsley.

You name checking Ange and Emery is completely unrealistic.
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Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

It's not that people want Bruce and Allardyce. It's the fact that that is our market. Allardyce is a good manager and has always done relatively well with the clubs he has manager.

You don't get the England gig being a poor manager.

Our pool of managers that we get to choose from are most likely unemployed managers who are most likely pas their sell by date. Excluding Carsley.

You name checking Ange and Emery is completely unrealistic.

Horsey of course Ange and Emery are out of our league and budget.  

The point is what philosophy do we want first and then we pick the best manager available that uses that philosophy.  They have their philosophy first and foremost and don’t change based on the players they have.  It’s their way or the high way.  Big Jack was exactly the same.  He had his way of playing regardless rhay he had Liam Brady and Ronnie Whelan’s and Kevin Sheedy at his disposal.  

A weak manager who doesn’t have a style of play that they believe in is not the answer.  

The Emery and Ange examples are only to show that just because you have weaker players than the opposition does not mean you have to play reactive football.  


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http://www.irishpost.com/sport/mark-lawrenson-the-fai-dont-know-who-they-want-as-ireland-manager-264854

Lawrenson comes out with some awful scutter at times. 

Basically I don't know who should be the next Irish manager so I assume the FAI don't either. LOL

What basis does he have for this? Pure waffle. 


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