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Originally posted by BabbsBalls BabbsBalls wrote:

Originally posted by Borussia Borussia wrote:

Originally posted by t_rAndy t_rAndy wrote:

Originally posted by J89 J89 wrote:

Originally posted by t_rAndy t_rAndy wrote:

If he could bring in a strong coach as his number 2, Keane wouldn’t be the worst. We be box office. Would be a great story if he actually did come back and brought us success.
However, there are rarely ever fairytale endings when it comes to being an Ireland supporter in any sport!


Why not just hire this strong coach as our manager instead if he's needed that much. Most people saying they wouldn't mind Keane also add the "but I want to see him bring in a top number two also".

Why not just cut out the middle man and make the tactical savvy coach our number one rather than number two.

Cause we all know he is not really one for the training ground. Not all managers/coaches are the master tacticians. 
Many of them keep things simple enough but are leaders and someone who players will run through walls for. But they are then usually supported by someone that does the grunt work on the training ground. 

Maybe 5-10 years ago but the game has moved on.

So what groundbreaking tactics should our new manager implement with our group of players ? Please explain.
The new manager should be buying into the bigger plan in terms of being aligned with the 16s, 18s, 21s etc in terms of playing style though obviously not being totally limited in terms of having the freedom to being pragmatic where needed in terms of playing formation etc.
Having somebody who is a motivator but doesn't believe in practicing set pieces is not what is needed anymore. 
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Originally posted by BabbsBalls BabbsBalls wrote:

Originally posted by Mr. Snrub Mr. Snrub wrote:

Roy Keane lads, what drugs are you taking?! He hasn't managed a team in over 10 years and will probably fall out with half the team. He's a f**king lunatic, keep him at Sky! I'm actually baffled at that suggestion Confused

We've just had Stephen Kenny and are left with a very uninspiring list of candidates that would make Mike Bassett look like Pep Guardiola. It's not that too far fetched, truth be told.

I don't think any of us have an idea who would be on any shortlist both in terms of who Canham might have on that list or in terms of people interested in the job. 
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Originally posted by BabbsBalls BabbsBalls wrote:

Originally posted by Fitz Fitz wrote:

Originally posted by J89 J89 wrote:

Originally posted by t_rAndy t_rAndy wrote:

If he could bring in a strong coach as his number 2, Keane wouldn’t be the worst. We be box office. Would be a great story if he actually did come back and brought us success.
However, there are rarely ever fairytale endings when it comes to being an Ireland supporter in any sport!


Why not just hire this strong coach as our manager instead if he's needed that much. Most people saying they wouldn't mind Keane also add the "but I want to see him bring in a top number two also".

Why not just cut out the middle man and make the tactical savvy coach our number one rather than number two.


Exactly. Hard to imagine that lads who follow football closely could, in all honesty, back that charlatan to be our next manager. Mind-boggling stuff. 

I understand where you are coming from but Keane is one of the only Irish people involved in professional football that broke through our mental block of forever thinking everyone is better than us - a mentality compounded by Stephen Kenny recently - just check his post game interview on Saturday. It's 11 lads kicking a ball into a net. We always play with a fear and I think yeah, he might upset a few people along the way but he would make sure our players aren't fearful of the opposition. And that's a significant upgrade on what we have now already.

Your man Ray Goggins was great at motivating people on that Ultimate Hell Week show. I'm sure he'd make himself available.
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Originally posted by BabbsBalls BabbsBalls wrote:

Originally posted by Fitz Fitz wrote:

Originally posted by J89 J89 wrote:

Originally posted by t_rAndy t_rAndy wrote:

If he could bring in a strong coach as his number 2, Keane wouldn’t be the worst. We be box office. Would be a great story if he actually did come back and brought us success.
However, there are rarely ever fairytale endings when it comes to being an Ireland supporter in any sport!


Why not just hire this strong coach as our manager instead if he's needed that much. Most people saying they wouldn't mind Keane also add the "but I want to see him bring in a top number two also".

Why not just cut out the middle man and make the tactical savvy coach our number one rather than number two.


Exactly. Hard to imagine that lads who follow football closely could, in all honesty, back that charlatan to be our next manager. Mind-boggling stuff. 

I understand where you are coming from but Keane is one of the only Irish people involved in professional football that broke through our mental block of forever thinking everyone is better than us - a mentality compounded by Stephen Kenny recently - just check his post game interview on Saturday. It's 11 lads kicking a ball into a net. We always play with a fear and I think yeah, he might upset a few people along the way but he would make sure our players aren't fearful of the opposition. And that's a significant upgrade on what we have now already.

Broke through it by walking away from his country when they needed him (not to mention faking injuries over many years to avoid playing). Yeah, fantastic mentality displayed alright.
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Originally posted by BabbsBalls BabbsBalls wrote:

Originally posted by Fitz Fitz wrote:

Originally posted by J89 J89 wrote:

Originally posted by t_rAndy t_rAndy wrote:

If he could bring in a strong coach as his number 2, Keane wouldn’t be the worst. We be box office. Would be a great story if he actually did come back and brought us success.
However, there are rarely ever fairytale endings when it comes to being an Ireland supporter in any sport!


Why not just hire this strong coach as our manager instead if he's needed that much. Most people saying they wouldn't mind Keane also add the "but I want to see him bring in a top number two also".

Why not just cut out the middle man and make the tactical savvy coach our number one rather than number two.


Exactly. Hard to imagine that lads who follow football closely could, in all honesty, back that charlatan to be our next manager. Mind-boggling stuff. 

I understand where you are coming from but Keane is one of the only Irish people involved in professional football that broke through our mental block of forever thinking everyone is better than us - a mentality compounded by Stephen Kenny recently - just check his post game interview on Saturday. It's 11 lads kicking a ball into a net. We always play with a fear and I think yeah, he might upset a few people along the way but he would make sure our players aren't fearful of the opposition. And that's a significant upgrade on what we have now already.

Roy Keane would be the same ineptness we have now just with added screaming and players retiring early from international duty.
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Gus Poyet has the best recent record at international level of those mentioned/interested. I would be happy enough if he got the job.
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Originally posted by Sham96 Sham96 wrote:

Gus Poyet has the best recent record at international level of those mentioned/interested. I would be happy enough if he got the job.
His competitive wins have come against teams all well lower ranked: Cyprus(103), Kosovo(109), The North, Gibraltar and us twice. He has also drew friendlies with Malta & Lithuania, been beaten by Montenegro and in NL games by Cyprus. 

If he had these results with us, there would be quite a few on here calling for his sacking.

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I think this thread shows that Roy Keane would be a far too divisive appointment at a time when if we hire a new manager they need a good few games to show us what they are made of. With Keane the knives would be out from half the support straight away. 
Walters coming back from an offside position but Shane Long was definitely onside- Shane Lonnggggggg.... has done it!!!!
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Roddy Collins is looking for a gig, but FAI must move swiftly, he is being appointed as a football advisor to a National League club in 2024!
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Poyet’s Greece performed worse against Holland and France than we were and made absolutely no effort to qualify directly after Stephen Kenny handed them six points. 

Greece had everything fall for them, including a very favourable fixture list, e.g. first game against Gibraltar and last game at home to an already qualified France etc. 

Poyet hasn’t done much in this campaign other than out think a Friday night merchant as some on here would say. 
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Originally posted by TooOldForThis TooOldForThis wrote:

Roddy Collins is looking for a gig, but FAI must move swiftly, he is being appointed as a football advisor to a National League club in 2024!

He's box office!
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Originally posted by Stickittotheman Stickittotheman wrote:

I think this thread shows that Roy Keane would be a far too divisive appointment at a time when if we hire a new manager they need a good few games to show us what they are made of. With Keane the knives would be out from half the support straight away. 

They generally are anyway. Some will give out about anything.
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Some will not appreciate the "Kennyite" reference in the above! Kevin Palmer is advocating for Chris Hughton.

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Originally posted by TooOldForThis TooOldForThis wrote:


Some will not appreciate the "Kennyite" reference in the above! Kevin Palmer is advocating for Chris Hughton.



Quote Appointing a blast from the past not the way for FAI to go as they look for a new manager



Pretty sure appointing a member of the management team from 20 years ago could be described as a blast from the past.


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Originally posted by TooOldForThis TooOldForThis wrote:


Some will not appreciate the "Kennyite" reference in the above! Kevin Palmer is advocating for Chris Hughton.


He would be my first choice. However he is under contract with Ghana so think its a non runner unless circumstances change.
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You play the cards you're dealt. 

The squads O’Neill & McCarthy had to work with weren’t streets ahead of what we have, but the managers played to a system that suited them. As admirable as it was at the beginning, to me the biggest mistake Kenny has made is trying to implement a slow, possession based style that doesn’t suit the squad he has to work with. We potentially have a decent defence, a few busy midfielders, and a bit of pace going forward. 


Look at what Scotland have produced over the last few seasons under Clarke, solid defensively, high press, counter attacking football…a slightly stronger squad to work with, but not a million miles away from where we’re at. 


So what available managers could be available and within the budget of what we supposedly have


Herve Renard 

John Eustace

David Moyes (in the not so distant future) 

Sam Allardyce

Steve Bruce

Chris Hughton 

Chris Wilder

Dean Smith


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Fai won't need to name a new manager immediately so they could wait to see how Ghana do at the Afcon? 
If they do rubbish Ghana will get rid, and the fai will think 'this is the kind of rubbish we want'
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Originally posted by BabbsBalls BabbsBalls wrote:

Originally posted by Newryrep Newryrep wrote:

Roy Keane Jesus lads really gave you forgotten he was still no 2 to o Neill during the turgid years and he said and done Fuk all about it when it stank the place out 

Either he seen it and said nothing or he didn’t see it and is blind 

Turgid years LOL

Short memory NR.

Not really BB Everyman and their dog knew the home defeat to Denmark in the playoff should of been the end but o Neill and Keane and their salaries presided over not just sh*t results but sh*t performances as well with o Neill post match interviews leavving you wondering what game he had watched 

A high point being outplayed at home by a sh*t NI team in a friendly 

We need a coach/ tactician not a motivator 

Plenty of coaches on the continent and the salary is competitive 


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