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pick the guy who'll pick szomdics. then we will win again
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Carlos Quieroz?    Seriously? 

Recently he managed to not qualify with Colombia. I follow them closely and he was abysmal . He is past it and is just cashing cheques in Qatar- one of the few teams Stephen Kenny managed to get a win against. 

We need someone who will put manners on our squad. We are a soft touch at the moment so even though I don't like him myself , I would give it to someone like Duff who will hopefully give us a sound shape and stop the rot of throwing games away which Kenny has embedded.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote John Nice Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Nov 2023 at 11:59am
Originally posted by Scissors Kick Scissors Kick wrote:

Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

If Eustace could be persuaded he'd do for me. Was doing a very good job with limited resources at Birmingham before being rudely ejected by the Tom Brady consortium for Rooney who hasnt won a game since. Of the semi-realistic options (and I'm not convinced we even have the £1mn per annum it would take to lure a decent Championship manager), I think he's the best available. His record at Birmingham against the backdrop of a complete sh*tshow was impressive and he already has a little experience of the Irish set up which is a plus.



Already walked for a club job from us.
And if he did well, will absolutely walk again to the first offer he likes. Even if as before, it was only five months later. 
Will have options in his chosen division soon ( which again - he walked from the Irish set up for once already ) 

I'm aware, I stand by what I said - "If Eustace could be persuaded".

I realise it's a long shot, we pay Kenny €600k per annum, the average wage of a manager in the Championship in England is £1.2mn. more than twice as much. Unless we find a benefactor a la Dobbie then Eustace and probably Carsley are likely out of the picture. 

Obviously if we did give the job to Eustace we would be looking for assurances - it's one thing walking away from an asst mgr position, walking away from the senior manager role would be a different kettle of fish and much less likely imo if he decided to take the job.

We are likely looking at retirees or lads who havent reached as high as Championship level yet in their club careers. I dont think Renard or Petkovic come near us for €600k a year.

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Originally posted by 84ccfc84 84ccfc84 wrote:

pick the guy who'll pick szomdics. then we will win again

Sammy as player manager?
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Originally posted by rebelbrowser rebelbrowser wrote:

Originally posted by 84ccfc84 84ccfc84 wrote:

pick the guy who'll pick szomdics. then we will win again

Sammy as player manager?

now we're talking
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Mark Hughes is a Blackburn legend, maybe he would bring in Sammy?

In all seriousness, he probably is worth giving a call to


Edited by t_rAndy - 19 Nov 2023 at 12:10pm
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Originally posted by TooOldForThis TooOldForThis wrote:

Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

Eustace for me, but if we are genuinely broke, I honestly have been impressed with Duff, I think if we have to take a gamble, he's the best option rather than a Roy or Robbie Keane. I would point out that I dont support a Dublin LoI club, so I dont have any baggage from that pov. As an outsider looking in, he seems to have created a very solid outfit at Shelbourne and I have no problem with his straight talking, the FAI probably need a bit of a kick in the hole.
He has a bit of a needle with the FAI that led him to quit the management team? 


Don't think either Eustace or Duff did enough in their coaching roles with us (which we can see now, Kenny was really dependent on) to make them attractive candidates. Duff is also unreliable and wouldn’t be able to cope with the criticism - and is also an awful moaner - no thanks. 


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote John Nice Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Nov 2023 at 12:19pm
Originally posted by t_rAndy t_rAndy wrote:

Mark Hughes is a Blackburn legend, maybe he would bring in Sammy?

In all seriousness, he probably is worth giving a call to

A 38% win rate in league Two over 80 games with Bradford, sacked with them lying in 18th place. We can hopefully do better! If this is the kind of market we are operating in then I'd prefer Duffer!
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duff unreliable? where has this come from? bizarre thing to come out with
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Originally posted by 50%lesssugar&salt 50%lesssugar&salt wrote:

Originally posted by TooOldForThis TooOldForThis wrote:

Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

Eustace for me, but if we are genuinely broke, I honestly have been impressed with Duff, I think if we have to take a gamble, he's the best option rather than a Roy or Robbie Keane. I would point out that I dont support a Dublin LoI club, so I dont have any baggage from that pov. As an outsider looking in, he seems to have created a very solid outfit at Shelbourne and I have no problem with his straight talking, the FAI probably need a bit of a kick in the hole.
He has a bit of a needle with the FAI that led him to quit the management team? 


Don't think either Eustace or Duff did enough in their coaching roles with us (which we can see now, Kenny was really dependent on) to make them attractive candidates. Duff is also unreliable and wouldn’t be able to cope with the criticism - and is also an awful moaner - no thanks. 


Ireland won two, drew two and lost twice during Eustace’s brief stint, including a 2-2 draw with Belgium and the 3-0 win over Scotland. They Also lost 1-0 away to Armenia and 1-0 at home to Ukraine, won 1-0 home to Lithuania and drew 1-1 away to Ukraine - not a bad record tbf. Duff's record wasnt great, but it was against the backdrop of the Covid restrictions. Happy to hear your preferred candidates!


Edited by John Nice - 19 Nov 2023 at 12:29pm
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duff unreliable? where has this come from? bizarre thing to come out with

Do you not remember that he walked away from his coaching job with us over a video? That is pretty unreliable in my book. If things don't go well, first  thing that doesn't go his way as Manager that he can pin the blame on someone else on, he would be off on some point of principle. 

You have come out with a few bizarre things yourself in the last twelve hours so wouldn't be throwing around statements like that. 
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Originally posted by 50%lesssugar&salt 50%lesssugar&salt wrote:

Originally posted by TooOldForThis TooOldForThis wrote:

Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

Eustace for me, but if we are genuinely broke, I honestly have been impressed with Duff, I think if we have to take a gamble, he's the best option rather than a Roy or Robbie Keane. I would point out that I dont support a Dublin LoI club, so I dont have any baggage from that pov. As an outsider looking in, he seems to have created a very solid outfit at Shelbourne and I have no problem with his straight talking, the FAI probably need a bit of a kick in the hole.

He has a bit of a needle with the FAI that led him to quit the management team? 



Don't think either Eustace or Duff did enough in their coaching roles with us (which we can see now, Kenny was really dependent on) to make them attractive candidates. Duff is also unreliable and wouldn’t be able to cope with the criticism - and is also an awful moaner - no thanks. 




Why would you be looking at their coaching roles with us to see if they'd be attractive candidates.

Especially when Eustace went and managed at a level in which a lot of our current players are/have played their football. Just look at the state of Birmingham since they needlessly sacked him.
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Originally posted by 50%lesssugar&salt 50%lesssugar&salt wrote:

Originally posted by 84ccfc84 84ccfc84 wrote:

duff unreliable? where has this come from? bizarre thing to come out with

Do you not remember that he walked away from his coaching job with us over a video? That is pretty unreliable in my book. If things don't go well, first  thing that doesn't go his way as Manager that he can pin the blame on someone else on, he would be off on some point of principle. 

You have come out with a few bizarre things yourself in the last twelve hours so wouldn't be throwing around statements like that. 

 so what? he thought the whole situation was a joke and by the sounds of things he was right to take a stand. lads using the wembley-gate thing to show duff as unreliable but leaving out all the work hes done at underage and now senior at league of ireland level. the chap seems pretty reliable to me. would take him in a heartbeat over someone like mark hughes, hughton or lennon.
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I wouldn't be surprised if the FAI take the cheap option and appoint some type of "interim" manager hoping it works out. Drag out the process for as long as possible.
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Originally posted by J89 J89 wrote:

Originally posted by 50%lesssugar&salt 50%lesssugar&salt wrote:

Originally posted by TooOldForThis TooOldForThis wrote:

Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

Eustace for me, but if we are genuinely broke, I honestly have been impressed with Duff, I think if we have to take a gamble, he's the best option rather than a Roy or Robbie Keane. I would point out that I dont support a Dublin LoI club, so I dont have any baggage from that pov. As an outsider looking in, he seems to have created a very solid outfit at Shelbourne and I have no problem with his straight talking, the FAI probably need a bit of a kick in the hole.

He has a bit of a needle with the FAI that led him to quit the management team? 



Don't think either Eustace or Duff did enough in their coaching roles with us (which we can see now, Kenny was really dependent on) to make them attractive candidates. Duff is also unreliable and wouldn’t be able to cope with the criticism - and is also an awful moaner - no thanks. 




Why would you be looking at their coaching roles with us to see if they'd be attractive candidates.

Especially when Eustace went and managed at a level in which a lot of our current players are/have played their football. Just look at the state of Birmingham since they needlessly sacked him.

Because looking back, Kenny was very dependent on having a good coach and the coaches appeared to have a lot of influence (particularly Anthony Barry). 

Maybe with more time Eustace would mould us into something good and to be fair, as John pointed out above, it wasn't a very long or terrible stint as coach with us. 
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I'm highly unimpressed by the apparent target list!
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We need somebody that nobody expects.  A left field appointment like Celtic did with Ange Postecoglou.

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Duff's a non-starter this time around anyway, needs to show he can stay somewhere for a decent period of time and manage successfully at a higher level before he can be considered for the Ireland job. Same as Robbie Keane I suppose, and John O'Shea too. If we're going down the ex Irish international road Carsley and Hughton would seem to be the only two realistic possibilities. Absolutely no reason to limit ourselves to ex players though.
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