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Roy Keane praised Niall Quinn on the latest Overlap which was slightly unusual timing.  But can't see him getting it.  Canham has backtracked on almost everything he originally said so it may not be a manager with international experience. If it is someone other than John O'Shea. Out of work manager list is probably being scrutinized at this moment. And I definitely wouldn't rule out Roy Hodgson being contacted (if well enough) to work alongside O'Shea. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-13123249/Roy-Hodgson-return-football-health-scare-Crystal-Palace-England.html Is this what they have planned Hodgson with O'Shea? 

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I think Poyet and Roy would be needless risks for different reasons and given how O'Shea did a fairly reasonable job over the two friendlies along, it probably would be the wiser decision to just give him a 2 year contract with a possible extension to the EURO 2028 campaign. 

That's assuming we've no better candidates than any of those three. 


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Originally posted by irishmufc irishmufc wrote:

I think Poyet and Roy would be needless risks for different reasons and given how O'Shea did a fairly reasonable job over the two friendlies along, it probably would be the wiser decision to just give him a 2 year contract with a possible extension to the EURO 2028 campaign. 

That's assuming we've no better candidates than any of those three. 


They will give it to O'Shea but only with a "minder" hence the reason Canham brought in Kerr for the two friendlies. Kerr said he is now finished and will take no further role. Yet O'Shea wants the job. So is Hodgson the real "minder" that had contractual obligations? Pure speculation on my part. And I am not a fan of a manager having an advisor. Let us see what happens over the next few days.
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Originally posted by Sham96 Sham96 wrote:

Originally posted by irishmufc irishmufc wrote:

I think Poyet and Roy would be needless risks for different reasons and given how O'Shea did a fairly reasonable job over the two friendlies along, it probably would be the wiser decision to just give him a 2 year contract with a possible extension to the EURO 2028 campaign. 

That's assuming we've no better candidates than any of those three. 


They will give it to O'Shea but only with a "minder" hence the reason Canham brought in Kerr for the two friendlies. Kerr said he is now finished and will take no further role. Yet O'Shea wants the job. So is Hodgson the real "minder" that had contractual obligations? Pure speculation on my part. And I am not a fan of a manager having an advisor. Let us see what happens over the next few days.

Hodgson?? WTF like. He quit Palace cause of his health. Of he was inclined to keep a minder as you say he would just keep Kerr on. 
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Originally posted by doherty doherty wrote:

Originally posted by Sham96 Sham96 wrote:

Originally posted by irishmufc irishmufc wrote:

I think Poyet and Roy would be needless risks for different reasons and given how O'Shea did a fairly reasonable job over the two friendlies along, it probably would be the wiser decision to just give him a 2 year contract with a possible extension to the EURO 2028 campaign. 

That's assuming we've no better candidates than any of those three. 


They will give it to O'Shea but only with a "minder" hence the reason Canham brought in Kerr for the two friendlies. Kerr said he is now finished and will take no further role. Yet O'Shea wants the job. So is Hodgson the real "minder" that had contractual obligations? Pure speculation on my part. And I am not a fan of a manager having an advisor. Let us see what happens over the next few days.

Hodgson?? WTF like. He quit Palace cause of his health. Of he was inclined to keep a minder as you say he would just keep Kerr on. 
Hodgson is fine and has stated he wants to return to football in a consultancy role. 
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I would take Hodgeson ahead of Kerr to work with him.. He  has done well where ever he has gone only thing is his health and none of us privy to how his health is 
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Originally posted by Sham96 Sham96 wrote:

Originally posted by irishmufc irishmufc wrote:

I think Poyet and Roy would be needless risks for different reasons and given how O'Shea did a fairly reasonable job over the two friendlies along, it probably would be the wiser decision to just give him a 2 year contract with a possible extension to the EURO 2028 campaign. 

That's assuming we've no better candidates than any of those three. 


They will give it to O'Shea but only with a "minder" hence the reason Canham brought in Kerr for the two friendlies. Kerr said he is now finished and will take no further role. Yet O'Shea wants the job. So is Hodgson the real "minder" that had contractual obligations? Pure speculation on my part. And I am not a fan of a manager having an advisor. Let us see what happens over the next few days.

Definitely not Hodgson imo and would actually rather Kerr being retained by O'Shea as I think if O'Shea got it, he might actually ask Kerr to be involved again. Don't think it would do much harm and Kerr wouldn't undermine him anyway. 

He might make a good go-between the management and players and seemed to have been well received by the players going by Collins's presser during the last camp. 
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Originally posted by Sham96 Sham96 wrote:

Originally posted by doherty doherty wrote:

Originally posted by Sham96 Sham96 wrote:

Originally posted by irishmufc irishmufc wrote:

I think Poyet and Roy would be needless risks for different reasons and given how O'Shea did a fairly reasonable job over the two friendlies along, it probably would be the wiser decision to just give him a 2 year contract with a possible extension to the EURO 2028 campaign. 

That's assuming we've no better candidates than any of those three. 


They will give it to O'Shea but only with a "minder" hence the reason Canham brought in Kerr for the two friendlies. Kerr said he is now finished and will take no further role. Yet O'Shea wants the job. So is Hodgson the real "minder" that had contractual obligations? Pure speculation on my part. And I am not a fan of a manager having an advisor. Let us see what happens over the next few days.

Hodgson?? WTF like. He quit Palace cause of his health. Of he was inclined to keep a minder as you say he would just keep Kerr on. 
Hodgson is fine and has stated he wants to return to football in a consultancy role. 

Well id be fairly sure when Canham was talking about contractual issues he wasnt referring to Roy Hodgson. Call it a hunch..
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As much as I like Roy, this shouldn't happen and won't. The FAI will be aware of the optics and would straight away lead to comparisons with Stan and Bobby Robson. 
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Originally posted by 50%lesssugar&salt 50%lesssugar&salt wrote:

As much as I like Roy, this shouldn't happen and won't. The FAI will be aware of the optics and would straight away lead to comparisons with Stan and Bobby Robson. 
I would normally agree with that and yet they interviewed Lennon, almost certainly got hoodwinked by Poyet and have no manager for their "early_ April announcement. So the optics are already bad. If it is to be O'Shea why bring in Kerr for the two friendlies then for Kerr to categorically state that he is out?:
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Originally posted by Sham96 Sham96 wrote:

Originally posted by 50%lesssugar&salt 50%lesssugar&salt wrote:

As much as I like Roy, this shouldn't happen and won't. The FAI will be aware of the optics and would straight away lead to comparisons with Stan and Bobby Robson. 
I would normally agree with that and yet they interviewed Lennon, almost certainly got hoodwinked by Poyet and have no manager for their "early_ April announcement. So the optics are already bad. If it is to be O'Shea why bring in Kerr for the two friendlies then for Kerr to categorically state that he is out?:

Kerr himself seemed convinced they have someone lined up for April based on his conversation with Canham during the window. That is probably the main reason why he said he was out. Not sure how much Kerr fancies a longer gigg. Suited him to come back in short term to feel vindicated and get an up close look at the set up and squad which he can talk about/ refer back to in his pundit roles. 

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Originally posted by McG McG wrote:

Sid Waddell (the banned poster) copped this long before the media picked it up 

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Paul Simon wrote 50 Ways To Leave Your Lover about the PROCESS of appointing Ireland managers. He just didn't know it. Look at the NAMES. 

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Well the fact the poyet stories have pretty much been confirmed means he told them he was available early April, now has changed his mind so are left with noone, is how i see it
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I really hope he doesn’t get it.  I will always support the manager but if that mercenary gets it I will be as close to doing a murph on it as possible.   
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Originally posted by irishmufc irishmufc wrote:

I think Poyet and Roy would be needless risks for different reasons and given how O'Shea did a fairly reasonable job over the two friendlies along, it probably would be the wiser decision to just give him a 2 year contract with a possible extension to the EURO 2028 campaign. 

That's assuming we've no better candidates than any of those three. 




Wise decision and John O'Shea do not go together in the same sentence FFS
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Can the fai afford a coach with an advisor though, that's what makes me.feel they won't go down that route...
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Originally posted by greenlad greenlad wrote:

Can the fai afford a coach with an advisor though, that's what makes me.feel they won't go down that route...


Would assume if you're hiring an advisor then the manager surely is getting paid less than what Kenny was and the advisor would likely be his assistant too. Especially now with the FAI being broke.

Did Stan have an assistant manager as well as Bobby Robson working with him?
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