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Poll Question: Which category below will the new manager likely come from?
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Originally posted by grannyrule grannyrule wrote:

If people are being honest...Steve Bruce (while maybe not the answer either), his managerial CV spits on someone like Stephen Kenny's CV...yet we had some here raving about Kenny. Chalk & cheese as far as I'm concerned.
Yeah but come on.. Bruce is finished as a serious manager I think. I suppose you could say that it's normal for managerial tenures to end on a sour note, but my god, Bruce's tend to end catastrophically. Bloke got a cabbage launched at his head ffs. If it's Bruce or Kenny I genuinely think I'd rather Kenny LOL
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Just my 2 cents..

Sean Dyche - Everton
Rafael Benitez - Free Agent
Marcelo Bielsa - Uruguay national team
Graham Potter - Free Agent
Joachim Löw - Free Agent
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Originally posted by Bibi Baskin Bibi Baskin wrote:

Just my 2 cents..

Sean Dyche - Everton
Rafael Benitez - Free Agent
Marcelo Bielsa - Uruguay national team
Graham Potter - Free Agent
Joachim Löw - Free Agent
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Originally posted by Bibi Baskin Bibi Baskin wrote:

Just my 2 cents..

Sean Dyche - Everton
Rafael Benitez - Free Agent
Marcelo Bielsa - Uruguay national team
Graham Potter - Free Agent
Joachim Löw - Free Agent


Guardiola - Man City
Klopp - Liverpool 
Zidane - free agent 
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Originally posted by Banana_RepublicFC Banana_RepublicFC wrote:

Originally posted by Bibi Baskin Bibi Baskin wrote:

Just my 2 cents..

Sean Dyche - Everton
Rafael Benitez - Free Agent
Marcelo Bielsa - Uruguay national team
Graham Potter - Free Agent
Joachim Löw - Free Agent




LOL

Dyche is on £5mn p/a at Everton
Benitez recently hired by Celta Vigo 3 year deal €1.5mn p/a
Bielsa only recently joined Uruguay $4mn p/a
Potter was on £7mn p/a at Chelsea, can walk in to a PL job, minimum £2mn p/a
Low was on €4mn p/a with Germany

Just to put it into perspective - Kenny is on €600k p/a. All of the names listed would be excellent recruits, but leaving aside whether or not they would have any interest in managing Ireland, the FAI simply dont have the money to pay them.
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Originally posted by Bibi Baskin Bibi Baskin wrote:

Just my 2 cents..

Sean Dyche - Everton
Rafael Benitez - Free Agent
Marcelo Bielsa - Uruguay national team
Graham Potter - Free Agent
Joachim Löw - Free Agent


Benitez manages Celta Vigo..
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Originally posted by BrendanD88 BrendanD88 wrote:

Originally posted by Bibi Baskin Bibi Baskin wrote:

Just my 2 cents..

Sean Dyche - Everton
Rafael Benitez - Free Agent
Marcelo Bielsa - Uruguay national team
Graham Potter - Free Agent
Joachim Löw - Free Agent


Guardiola - Man City
Klopp - Liverpool 
Zidane - free agent 


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Roddy Collins - Definitely not a "free" anything !
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Originally posted by Borussia Borussia wrote:

Roddy Collins - Definitely not a "free" anything !


Is he not moving to Cambrills shortly.  

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Looked at my resolut the next day 130 yo-yos 


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Well with those replies Id best be quiet! :-)

600K, hmmmmmmmmm...not sure anymore..
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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Originally posted by Borussia Borussia wrote:

Roddy Collins - Definitely not a "free" anything !


Is he not moving to Cambrills shortly.  

4 pints of stout in Mylos glass of Guinness or the lady.  

Looked at my resolut the next day 130 yo-yos 

LOL you can't not hear that in his voice too
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Originally posted by Nialler Nialler wrote:

Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

Literary!

In 1999, while manager of Huddersfield, he wrote a trio of novels: Striker!, Sweeper! and Defender!. The books centred on fictional football manager Steve Barnes, based on Bruce, who solved murder mysteries and thwarted terrorists. Bruce later expressed his embarrassment at the books, which have become sought-after collectables

Maybe he can be unveiled at the dalkey book festival. 

It has also occured to me after yesterday this thread is near on pointless til November


You're the one who posted up about ffing Steve Bruce. Christ on a Trike 
It would damage this forums' reputation
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Given the salary being offered these days. it's likely an ex Irish international with managerial experience that will be in the frame or someone with UK profile, that no longer wants the burden of day to day club management.

The likes of Chris Hughton would likely fit the bill, but he's being doing well at Ghana, so not for now.

I can't see the FAI taking a punt on a younger coaches like Duff or Keane; nor an unknown foreign candidate.
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Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

Originally posted by Banana_RepublicFC Banana_RepublicFC wrote:

Originally posted by Bibi Baskin Bibi Baskin wrote:

Just my 2 cents..

Sean Dyche - Everton
Rafael Benitez - Free Agent
Marcelo Bielsa - Uruguay national team
Graham Potter - Free Agent
Joachim Löw - Free Agent




LOL

Dyche is on £5mn p/a at Everton
Benitez recently hired by Celta Vigo 3 year deal €1.5mn p/a
Bielsa only recently joined Uruguay $4mn p/a
Potter was on £7mn p/a at Chelsea, can walk in to a PL job, minimum £2mn p/a
Low was on €4mn p/a with Germany

Just to put it into perspective - Kenny is on €600k p/a. All of the names listed would be excellent recruits, but leaving aside whether or not they would have any interest in managing Ireland, the FAI simply dont have the money to pay them.
Not sure why we assume the €600k pa to Kenny is the max budget available to FAI.
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Originally posted by Stoked Up Stoked Up wrote:

Given the salary being offered these days. it's likely an ex Irish international with managerial experience that will be in the frame or someone with UK profile, that no longer wants the burden of day to day club management.

The likes of Chris Hughton would likely fit the bill, but he's being doing well at Ghana, so not for now.

I can't see the FAI taking a punt on a younger coaches like Duff or Keane; nor an unknown foreign candidate.

Chris Hughton - I can see it now, a flat back 4 of Coleman, Duffy, Egan, and Doherty. Brady and Hendrick back in midfield, Browne or Keane playing off Ferguson up front. A real dream team.
We're decent enough..
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Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

Originally posted by Stoked Up Stoked Up wrote:

Given the salary being offered these days. it's likely an ex Irish international with managerial experience that will be in the frame or someone with UK profile, that no longer wants the burden of day to day club management.

The likes of Chris Hughton would likely fit the bill, but he's being doing well at Ghana, so not for now.

I can't see the FAI taking a punt on a younger coaches like Duff or Keane; nor an unknown foreign candidate.

Chris Hughton - I can see it now, a flat back 4 of Coleman, Duffy, Egan, and Doherty. Brady and Hendrick back in midfield, Browne or Keane playing off Ferguson up front. A real dream team.

Nothing wrong with experience. International football is full of ageing stars, especially with lesser nations.
I agree that some of our managers had a tendancy to hang on to the old guard for too long. Youth needs to be given its chance but not at the cost of losing to teams below or what used to be level with us. A few youngsters is enough in any international side.
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Originally posted by Stoked Up Stoked Up wrote:

Given the salary being offered these days. it's likely an ex Irish international with managerial experience that will be in the frame or someone with UK profile, that no longer wants the burden of day to day club management.

I can't see the FAI taking a punt on a younger coaches like Duff or Keane; nor an unknown foreign candidate.

Exactly this. I definitely cannot see a younger coach get it. They will be gone at the first opportunity to manage an English club team in any case. It's an older manager's gig.
Kenny has 10 wins in charge of Ireland after 36 matches which came against Scotland, Azerbaijan, Armenia, Malta, Lithuania, Gibraltar, Andorra, Latvia, Qatar and Lux. In other words, nobody of note.
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Originally posted by Stoked Up Stoked Up wrote:

Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

Originally posted by Stoked Up Stoked Up wrote:

Given the salary being offered these days. it's likely an ex Irish international with managerial experience that will be in the frame or someone with UK profile, that no longer wants the burden of day to day club management.

The likes of Chris Hughton would likely fit the bill, but he's being doing well at Ghana, so not for now.

I can't see the FAI taking a punt on a younger coaches like Duff or Keane; nor an unknown foreign candidate.

Chris Hughton - I can see it now, a flat back 4 of Coleman, Duffy, Egan, and Doherty. Brady and Hendrick back in midfield, Browne or Keane playing off Ferguson up front. A real dream team.

Nothing wrong with experience. International football is full of ageing stars, especially with lesser nations.
I agree that some of our managers had a tendancy to hang on to the old guard for too long. Youth needs to be given its chance but not at the cost of losing to teams below or what used to be level with us. A few youngsters is enough in any international side.


There's everything wrong with experience when there's no attempt to bring through new players. How many qualification rounds have we went in to with a team that is clearly over the hill and no one in line to replace them because we have completely ignored any sort of contingency planning? It's utterly laughable, young players are relegated to friendly appearances, and their exclusion from competitive games is justified as they "lack experience" (which they'll never get as they only play the odd friendly....). It's a vicious cycle.
We're decent enough..
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