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Originally posted by Roberto_Carlow Roberto_Carlow wrote:

So around, what,  3% of total people applying? Say maybe 1.5% were genuine (unless all 100 emails to cancel came straight in?)

Them numbers suggest we don't really have an issue with harvesting in general, and to make 98% of genuine fans have to pick up, in a time when there is no real danger of us qualifying for a major tournament seems a bit much no?


Any harvesting is an issue and quite frankly nonsensical since the allocation to ‘fans’ was greatly increased to 90% of tickets as opposed to the previous % under the gangster. A lot of us fought long and hard for a transparent scheme for everyone, but it appears that some only want transparency for everyone except themselves. 

Even the most oversubscribed games since have seen people with only 2 or 3 from the last 10 get a ticket. Harvesting, no matter how many are at it, only falsely increases the applications, it may increase the threshold of games attended needed to get aticket. Its an idiotic approach and does no favours to anyone in the long run. 
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Originally posted by Roberto_Carlow Roberto_Carlow wrote:

So around, what,  3% of total people applying? Say maybe 1.5% were genuine (unless all 100 emails to cancel came straight in?)

Them numbers suggest we don't really have an issue with harvesting in general, and to make 98% of genuine fans have to pick up, in a time when there is no real danger of us qualifying for a major tournament seems a bit much no?

I take your point but regardless of that I would still be massively aggrieved if one of those few % got a ticket for a big game or a major tournament ahead of me. The only solutions are to implement collection only or refuse to release tickets until proof of travel has been supplied. Only issue with providing proof of travel will be smart people photoshopping 


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I've no idea who these people are who don't want transparency for themselves, but being told to pick up a ticket because 100 or so people may be harvesting (which is a bit pointless and stupid) is a bit of annoyance. 

I thought the problem in the past was the supporters clubs taking what they wanted compared to independent travellers? Was that not the problem as opposed a very small amount of idiots buying tickets for games they aren't attending?
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For Paris myself and a mate went on matchday to collect the ticket. I'd collected mine the day before but he was arriving in after the deadline before the day of the match. Asked if we could be in the same section and Cria took out a pile of what must have 100s of unused tickets and swapped them without hassle. Not eure why people would spend 65 quid to harvest tickets but they clearly do
Danger here, OH NO
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Originally posted by Roberto_Carlow Roberto_Carlow wrote:

So around, what,  3% of total people applying? Say maybe 1.5% were genuine (unless all 100 emails to cancel came straight in?)

Them numbers suggest we don't really have an issue with harvesting in general, and to make 98% of genuine fans have to pick up, in a time when there is no real danger of us qualifying for a major tournament seems a bit much no?



You might wanna look at the Tbilisi thread where the guts of 20% of the tickets were harvested at the last visit and similar to Paris a mysterious illness swept some supporters who couldn’t travel at the last minute

The FAI would really not want to do 100% collection given the logistics  ( Paris wasn’t their decision ) but I have no real issue if every once in a while they ask for it or a 10% sample just to keep everybody ‘honest’ - and I don’t think anybody should 


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No issue with the 10% idea. What it needs is consistency as pages and pages are about potential tickets collections, rumours etc. Be good to know where you stand.

Collection in places like Tbilisi are easy enough when it's a small city but if you are having to get to grounds early, trek out to other sides of major cities it becomes a hindrance to your trip. Travelling fans are treated like an after thought at the best of times.
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