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According to Philip Quinn today in the Daily mail the draw is been held "behind closed doors"
being held.... or has been held. 
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Originally posted by ripbomb ripbomb wrote:

According to Philip Quinn today in the Daily mail the draw is been held "behind closed doors"
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According to Philip Quinn today in the Daily mail the draw is been held "behind closed doors"
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Originally posted by t_rAndy t_rAndy wrote:

Originally posted by irishmufc irishmufc wrote:

Will the order of fixtures be done a few hours after the draw or the next day? 

Hopefully two consecutive aways in June. 

Read before that the fixtures would be finalised by the next day

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Originally posted by irishmufc irishmufc wrote:

Will the order of fixtures be done a few hours after the draw or the next day? 

Hopefully two consecutive aways in June. 

Read before that the fixtures would be finalised by the next day
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Will the order of fixtures be done a few hours after the draw or the next day? 

Hopefully two consecutive aways in June. 
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Originally posted by kevincronin2000 kevincronin2000 wrote:

Originally posted by brendy_éire brendy_éire wrote:

Originally posted by nvidic nvidic wrote:

Russia and Ukraine can't be drawn together, open draw for us other than that 

Armenia, Iceland and Israel can't be in the same group, so there's a slightly higher chance of us drawing Armenia/Iceland.  No bad thing really.
Is that because of the distance thing. If so is that confirmed somewhere as it seems a bit mad of a rule 

Yeah it's part of the excessive travel restrictions. There's no winter restrictions though as the games are in June and September
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Originally posted by brendy_éire brendy_éire wrote:

Originally posted by nvidic nvidic wrote:

Russia and Ukraine can't be drawn together, open draw for us other than that 

Armenia, Iceland and Israel can't be in the same group, so there's a slightly higher chance of us drawing Armenia/Iceland.  No bad thing really.
Is that because of the distance thing. If so is that confirmed somewhere as it seems a bit mad of a rule 
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Originally posted by nvidic nvidic wrote:

Russia and Ukraine can't be drawn together, open draw for us other than that 

Armenia, Iceland and Israel can't be in the same group, so there's a slightly higher chance of us drawing Armenia/Iceland.  No bad thing really.
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No doubt we will have to go through all of this again with certain individuals just maintaining Ireland should be beating such and such just cos they should, so they should. A group including Sweden, Scotland, Albania will be difficult to get a Top 2 spot in (not impossible, but difficult). A group containing Iceland, Finland, Armenia would be much easier imo based on thos ecountries recent results.

Looking at the Pot 4 teams for example and I'm not saying that we shouldn't be beating them here. I'm just pointing out that none of these games will be easy, particularly away from home. In the most recent WCQ campaign, so relatively current form, they achieved notable results as follows

ALBANIA - Beat Hungary Home and Away
ARMENIA - Beat Romania and Iceland
MONTENEGRO - Drew with both Netherlands and Turkey
SLOVENIS - Beat Croatia, Drew with Slovakia Home and Away.

As for Scotland - compare their squad to ours - We have 2 regular PL players, one of whom is 33. They have Robertson, Mc Tominay, Tierney, Che Adams, Liam Cooper, Gilmour. Mc Lean, Stuart Armstrong, John McGinn, Ryan Fraser, Grant Hanley leaving aside players like Mc Gregor/Christie/Hendry etc. We are quite a way behind them at present. They are not drawing on players from League One.
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Originally posted by Shedite Shedite wrote:

Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

Worst Case - Sweden/Scotland/Albania

Best Case - Iceland/Finland/Armenia

We shall see whether or not Kenny is a lucky manger, he hasn't had a lot of it so far imo. Two wildly contrasting groups possible.
That's not wildly contracting IMO.

By the very nature of the NL, the teams in each pot are very close, 1-2 places in rankings. In the bigger draws, one pot could have a swing of 8-10 spots.


Or it's based on how each team has just performed over 10-12 games this year.
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Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

Worst Case - Sweden/Scotland/Albania

Best Case - Iceland/Finland/Armenia

We shall see whether or not Kenny is a lucky manger, he hasn't had a lot of it so far imo. Two wildly contrasting groups possible.
That's not wildly contracting IMO.

By the very nature of the NL, the teams in each pot are very close, 1-2 places in rankings. In the bigger draws, one pot could have a swing of 8-10 spots.
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Not sure Scotland are the worst case - they were poor at the Euros. A few good players but they're all central midfielders and left backs. GK, centre of defence, right back and forwards are nothing to write home about. Russia are the team I'd be most wanting to avoid from that pot - from the whole division actually.

Regardless of who we draw from pots 1 and 2 the four bottom teams are much of a muchness, so there should be no "group of death" for us there - we should be taking four points minimum from any of those pot 4 teams as a starting point, and then see what we can get from the rest. Aim should be a top 2 finish in the group. 

Also notable that, looking ahead to the next World Cup campaign, there may well be a benefit to not winning this group in terms of a playoff path for 2026 (obviously a benefit to not coming last also).
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Worst Case - Sweden/Scotland/Albania

Best Case - Iceland/Finland/Armenia

We shall see whether or not Kenny is a lucky manger, he hasn't had a lot of it so far imo. Two wildly contrasting groups possible.
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Originally posted by KING-CON KING-CON wrote:

Will UEFA be keeping any teams apart so they cant play each other? eg Russia/Ukraine, Serbia/Albania?  


Russia and Ukraine can't be drawn together, open draw for us other than that 
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Originally posted by KING-CON KING-CON wrote:

Will UEFA be keeping any teams apart so they cant play each other? eg Russia/Ukraine, Serbia/Albania?  



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