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His distribution is top class. Played a lovely pass out of defence to get the move going for Schade's goal.
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That’s sh*te defending. He’s there before the keeper so should be taking the responsibility and clearing it, even if the keeper calls for it. Another example of him needing to concentrate of being a defender first.

Has had a good start at Brentford but needs to cut out those errors if he wants to keep his place.
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Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

That's not his game, it's not what he does. He can sometimes step out from centre back and add a body in midfield during a game, but he absolutely can't do what Cullen or Smallbone do at 6.

Maybe but, with all due respect, we won't get to a world cup with Cullen and smallbone in our engine room. We should try something else rather than just accept that's what we have and thats that. I like Cullen but he's far too quiet to be a consistently good performer at international level. You rarely see him open his mouth and being a good communicator in that position is a skill thats very important. 

Collins has the skills, personality and quality to be a good midfielder for us. 
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Originally posted by BabbsBalls BabbsBalls wrote:

Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

That's not his game, it's not what he does. He can sometimes step out from centre back and add a body in midfield during a game, but he absolutely can't do what Cullen or Smallbone do at 6.

Maybe but, with all due respect, we won't get to a world cup with Cullen and smallbone in our engine room. We should try something else rather than just accept that's what we have and thats that. I like Cullen but he's far too quiet to be a consistently good performer at international level. You rarely see him open his mouth and being a good communicator in that position is a skill thats very important. 

Collins has the skills, personality and quality to be a good midfielder for us. 

Except he is not a midfielder and big difference watching and anticipating game in front of you from defence, and being no6 playing game on the half turn 
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This might already have been pointed out, but has Collins ever played in midfield at any level? 

McGrath was able to play in midfield because he was a world class talent. There's an old saying that good players can play anywhere and intelligent players with the physical capabilities can transition (thinking Philipp Lahm from RB to CM), so it's not beyond the realms of possibility. It just doesn't seem very likely.
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Originally posted by Predator Predator wrote:

This might already have been pointed out, but has Collins ever played in midfield at any level? 

McGrath was able to play in midfield because he was a world class talent. There's an old saying that good players can play anywhere and intelligent players with the physical capabilities can transition (thinking Philipp Lahm from RB to CM), so it's not beyond the realms of possibility. It just doesn't seem very likely.


Pretty sure Lahm played midfield when younger and Bayern turned him into a FB. They did it with Alba and even Ryan Johansson played RB.

Remember someone saying beoft they liked to play midfielders as FBs when breaking into the senior team because it's a safer position to play in and helps make players versatile.
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Ben Mee returns to the starting line up today. Their first game after the internationals is away to Newcastle so Collins will likely come back into the starting XI when they go 3-5-2 for that game.
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“Nathan Collins has made the bench for Brentford”
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Originally posted by The Huntacha The Huntacha wrote:

“Nathan Collins has made the bench for Brentford”

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On now. Bringing Mee back in and playing two left footed centre backs didn't really work.
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Lovely pass from Collins for the assist.
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Gets an assist for a 93rd minute goal to bring it to 2-2
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A short thread on Nathan Collins' 50th Premier League appearance today, the only Irish player under 30 with 50 PL appearances
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I didn’t think he was poor. You could criticise him for letting the cross in for the goal but two other players made the crucial mistakes, particularly the keeper who bought a cynical play by Gordon and conceded the penalty that won the game. Brentford deserved a draw.
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didnt see the game but in the one player ratings article i read he got a 7/10
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I taught he was solid yesterday
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