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Originally posted by JoxerDaly JoxerDaly wrote:

From the u19s Josh Ireland looks the most creative imo from what ive seen. 
 

More creative then Andrew Moran 11 goals and 13 assists in 27 games underage for Brighton this year? I’d have Moran ahead he looks a talent.
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£12m bid from Burnley set to be accepted according to Alan Nixon in The Sun.
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I think it was an increased bid that is likely to be accepted. Should be a good move for him. Tarkowski will surely leave as he is going into the last year of his contract and Nathan is more likely to get into the first team early there than at other interested clubs such as Arsenal, Man Utd, Chelsea and Leicester. Not so good news for Jimmy Dunne, although he has been offered a new contract, or Kevin Long, though he seems to be okay with a role as a back-up. Burnley have been looking at other centre backs, though, so there may be another signing or two.

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I think it was an increased bid that is likely to be accepted. Should be a good move for him. Tarkowski will surely leave as he is going into the last year of his contract and Nathan is more likely to get into the first team early there than at other interested clubs such as Arsenal, Man Utd, Chelsea and Leicester. Not so good news for Jimmy Dunne, although he has been offered a new contract, or Kevin Long, though he seems to be okay with a role as a back-up. Burnley have been looking at other centre backs, though, so there may be another signing or two.
 
 Yep you are very much on the money GC , Tarks will go and Dunne also the new owners are talking about bring in a few players so those that leave will be replaced .
Lots of Talk about Dyche and his new contract which could be somewhere double of his last one again just talk but the owners see him as the main man at the club and i think they are right .
 
I would say they will go for Knight again as well just a hunch .
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Originally posted by Green Cockade Green Cockade wrote:

I think it was an increased bid that is likely to be accepted. Should be a good move for him. Tarkowski will surely leave as he is going into the last year of his contract and Nathan is more likely to get into the first team early there than at other interested clubs such as Arsenal, Man Utd, Chelsea and Leicester. Not so good news for Jimmy Dunne, although he has been offered a new contract, or Kevin Long, though he seems to be okay with a role as a back-up. Burnley have been looking at other centre backs, though, so there may be another signing or two.
 
 Yep you are very much on the money GC , Tarks will go and Dunne also the new owners are talking about bring in a few players so those that leave will be replaced .
Lots of Talk about Dyche and his new contract which could be somewhere double of his last one again just talk but the owners see him as the main man at the club and i think they are right .
 
I would say they will go for Knight again as well just a hunch .
 
 
Even if Tarkowski stays for another year Collins can play right back too so if any of Mee Tarkowski Lowton get injured he will slot into the team. The following year he will come in alongside Mee? If I recall Tarkowski had a similar introduction coming into the side regularly his 2nd season once Keane left? 

It would be a great move for him. I presume Ben Gibson is off to Norwich too? 

Also Knight to Burnley of the clubs he’s linked to i’d love. I see West Ham and Burnley really suiting him clubs not exactly teeming with depth in midfield and clubs that would suit his way of going about the game like an East African distance runner with an extra lung.

Some would point to Hendrick did Burnley suit him as regards long term but Knight is a different type of player with a huge engine the sort that would actually suit Burnley far more.



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Yes, this looks like a good move for nearly all involved - maybe not Stoke as they're being sold short I think, but they're not in a position to say no any longer it seems. Burnley seem to be looking at signing another centre back in addition to Collins, but more of a left sider so there wouldn't be too much competition there. If Tarkowski goes, which seems likely, Collins will probably go straight into the first team. Otherwise he might be centre back/right back cover for a while before breaking through.

Jimmy Dunne needs to turn that contract offer down and move, he won't play more than a handful of games at Burnley which is no good to him at this stage. He has a decent enough reputation down the divisions so will have no problem finding a club. Long will be happy enough with a backup role as ever I'm sure.
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Originally posted by kevin100 kevin100 wrote:

Originally posted by Claret Murph Claret Murph wrote:

Originally posted by Green Cockade Green Cockade wrote:

I think it was an increased bid that is likely to be accepted. Should be a good move for him. Tarkowski will surely leave as he is going into the last year of his contract and Nathan is more likely to get into the first team early there than at other interested clubs such as Arsenal, Man Utd, Chelsea and Leicester. Not so good news for Jimmy Dunne, although he has been offered a new contract, or Kevin Long, though he seems to be okay with a role as a back-up. Burnley have been looking at other centre backs, though, so there may be another signing or two.
 
 Yep you are very much on the money GC , Tarks will go and Dunne also the new owners are talking about bring in a few players so those that leave will be replaced .
Lots of Talk about Dyche and his new contract which could be somewhere double of his last one again just talk but the owners see him as the main man at the club and i think they are right .
 
I would say they will go for Knight again as well just a hunch .
 
 
Even if Tarkowski stays for another year Collins can play right back too so if any of Mee Tarkowski Lowton get injured he will slot into the team. The following year he will come in alongside Mee? If I recall Tarkowski had a similar introduction coming into the side regularly his 2nd season once Keane left? 

It would be a great move for him. I presume Ben Gibson is off to Norwich too? 

Also Knight to Burnley of the clubs he’s linked to i’d love. I see West Ham and Burnley really suiting him clubs not exactly teeming with depth in midfield and clubs that would suit his way of going about the game like an East African distance runner with an extra lung.

Some would point to Hendrick did Burnley suit him as regards long term but Knight is a different type of player with a huge engine the sort that would actually suit Burnley far more.



Yep Gibson is off to Norwich as the deal was a season loan and if they got promoted then an £8 million fee for him so i expect that still stands 
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if this goes through. hope I’m wrong but I think the kid might regret this. No way can I see dyche starting a rookie centre half week in week out. Another year at Stoke would be better for him. Wouldn’t say Burnley is the best place for progressing your career.
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Not a bad place to progress your career. Both of the last two centre halves,Michael Keane and James Tarkowski were capped by England whilst at Burnley. Keane got a big money move to Everton and Tarkowski looks to be getting a big money move also.
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if this goes through. hope I’m wrong but I think the kid might regret this. No way can I see dyche starting a rookie centre half week in week out. Another year at Stoke would be better for him. Wouldn’t say Burnley is the best place for progressing your career.
 

Micheal Keane was signed young and turned out alright. If anything for a young centre half its great place to go to Dyche has made pretty much every centre half at that club look good. I reckon even if Kevin Long left for a Championship club he’d be back in League 1 in 2 years. 
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Originally posted by King_Kenny King_Kenny wrote:

if this goes through. hope I’m wrong but I think the kid might regret this. No way can I see dyche starting a rookie centre half week in week out. Another year at Stoke would be better for him. Wouldn’t say Burnley is the best place for progressing your career.
 

Micheal Keane was signed young and turned out alright. If anything for a young centre half its great place to go to Dyche has made pretty much every centre half at that club look good. I reckon even if Kevin Long left for a Championship club he’d be back in League 1 in 2 years. 
The center half’s look good because they are a dour defensive team. Mee or tarkowski couldn’t play in an expansive team where they would be left one on one.
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Originally posted by King_Kenny King_Kenny wrote:

Originally posted by kevin100 kevin100 wrote:

Originally posted by King_Kenny King_Kenny wrote:

if this goes through. hope I’m wrong but I think the kid might regret this. No way can I see dyche starting a rookie centre half week in week out. Another year at Stoke would be better for him. Wouldn’t say Burnley is the best place for progressing your career.
 

Micheal Keane was signed young and turned out alright. If anything for a young centre half its great place to go to Dyche has made pretty much every centre half at that club look good. I reckon even if Kevin Long left for a Championship club he’d be back in League 1 in 2 years. 
The center half’s look good because they are a dour defensive team. Mee or tarkowski couldn’t play in an expansive team where they would be left one on one.
 

That hasn’t stopped Keane or Tarkowski on the way to getting bigger transfers has it? 

Collins is also a right sided defender hence I’d take it that he would be playing weekly if signed. He would be signed as a replacement this year or next season latest if Tarkowski does stay on a year. 

They wouldn’t be spending 15m on a centre half to warm the bench.
 

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Originally posted by kevin100 kevin100 wrote:

Originally posted by King_Kenny King_Kenny wrote:

Originally posted by kevin100 kevin100 wrote:

Originally posted by King_Kenny King_Kenny wrote:

if this goes through. hope I’m wrong but I think the kid might regret this. No way can I see dyche starting a rookie centre half week in week out. Another year at Stoke would be better for him. Wouldn’t say Burnley is the best place for progressing your career.
 

Micheal Keane was signed young and turned out alright. If anything for a young centre half its great place to go to Dyche has made pretty much every centre half at that club look good. I reckon even if Kevin Long left for a Championship club he’d be back in League 1 in 2 years. 
The center half’s look good because they are a dour defensive team. Mee or tarkowski couldn’t play in an expansive team where they would be left one on one.
 

That hasn’t stopped Keane or Tarkowski on the way to getting bigger transfers has it? 

Collins is also a right sided defender hence I’d take it that he would be playing weekly if signed. He would be signed as a replacement this year or next season latest if Tarkowski does stay on a year. 

They wouldn’t be spending 15m on a centre half to warm the bench.


That is literally what they did with Ben Gibson. 
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Yes which only makes it far less likely they would do that again if anything. 
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Very different personalities by all accounts. Gibson was reputedly arrogant and entitled, he soured relations early on with the management and coaching staff at Burnley and the club took a stand on it. Collins by contrast is a young player with great potential who is modest and eager to learn. He would I think benefit greatly from a move to Turf Moor.
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Originally posted by Green Cockade Green Cockade wrote:

Very different personalities by all accounts. Gibson was reputedly arrogant and entitled, he soured relations early on with the management and coaching staff at Burnley and the club took a stand on it. Collins by contrast is a young player with great potential who is modest and eager to learn. He would I think benefit greatly from a move to Turf Moor.

I hope you are right. As has been mentioned Dyche has improved the standing of a couple of defenders at this point, Keane, Tarkowski, Trippier. 

Hopefully Collins name will be listed alongside those names in the years to come as examples of defenders who Dyche brought on a lot.
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Originally posted by Green Cockade Green Cockade wrote:

Very different personalities by all accounts. Gibson was reputedly arrogant and entitled, he soured relations early on with the management and coaching staff at Burnley and the club took a stand on it. Collins by contrast is a young player with great potential who is modest and eager to learn. He would I think benefit greatly from a move to Turf Moor.
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Originally posted by Claret Murph Claret Murph wrote:

Originally posted by Green Cockade Green Cockade wrote:

Very different personalities by all accounts. Gibson was reputedly arrogant and entitled, he soured relations early on with the management and coaching staff at Burnley and the club took a stand on it. Collins by contrast is a young player with great potential who is modest and eager to learn. He would I think benefit greatly from a move to Turf Moor.
Spot on again GC , question have we ever met as you know a great about the Clarets ?

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