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A few teams have joined that one team bidding war. Arsenal have shown interest before and Leicester have seemingly joined the race now. Man Utd have shown interest too reading between the lines that was quite concrete. 


15m seems to be the offer at the moment. I was thinking it would rise to 15-20m myself if the rumoured number of teams interested were true. 

Do we think he transfers this summer and what club would ye like him to go to.
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For all the talk about our strikers he's our best underage talent. I think he probably will go and that 15m might be negotiable downwards a little, as Stoke have been paying EPL wages in the Championship to some players and need to balance the books.

I think wherever he goes he's good enough that he will get a decent amount of playing time. Leicester might be a good balance between a team higher up the table and also one where he will also play.a reasonable amount in the short term. Evans, for instance, seems to be becoming more injury prone and is well into his 30s now.

Anything over £13m would be a new record transfer fee for an Irish player under 21.


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Hes one of those player that just looks head and shoulders above everyone else in his age group.

He'll likely be a senior player this year at the moment oshea is ahead of him but also has a few years on him.

With Egan and oshea looking the preferred partnership at the moment and with Collins, mcguinness and omobamidele taking great steps. it looks like we'll have the centre back position covered very well.

So goalkeepers (kelleher, bazunu, Travers) I'd say we're looking good in this area.

Centre backs - well covered in this area.

Fullbacks - no real stand out potential coming through as yet, manning deserves a chance. But Doherty abs Coleman won't last forever.

Centre midfield - biggest area of concern in my opinion. Currently hourihane and hendrick most senior but haven't performed. Molumby and Cullen look like they may be good players. Knight looks the strongest prospect by a long way at this point.

Forwards - Robinson and connolly look good. Parrott was very good vs Andorra and we don't ever get a teenager scoring a couple of goals in senior games (friendly against minnows being a caveat but still....) hopefully idah can kick on too.
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McGuinness is in a tough situation. Very good player but in a position where we have a lot of depth with O’Shea, Omobamidele, and Collins in the same age group. It would be great if one of these kids could step forward into midfield 
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Originally posted by DeclanDaly DeclanDaly wrote:

McGuinness is in a tough situation. Very good player but in a position where we have a lot of depth with O’Shea, Omobamidele, and Collins in the same age group. It would be great if one of these kids could step forward into midfield 

I'd much rather every player, whether it's defender, midfielder or attacker, better themselves to the point that they can't be left out from their specific position. Will only be good for the individual, for competition within the team and the overall team itself.
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Originally posted by Banjaxed Banjaxed wrote:

Originally posted by DeclanDaly DeclanDaly wrote:

McGuinness is in a tough situation. Very good player but in a position where we have a lot of depth with O’Shea, Omobamidele, and Collins in the same age group. It would be great if one of these kids could step forward into midfield 

I'd much rather every player, whether it's defender, midfielder or attacker, better themselves to the point that they can't be left out from their specific position. Will only be good for the individual, for competition within the team and the overall team itself.

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Originally posted by DeclanDaly DeclanDaly wrote:

Originally posted by Banjaxed Banjaxed wrote:

Originally posted by DeclanDaly DeclanDaly wrote:

McGuinness is in a tough situation. Very good player but in a position where we have a lot of depth with O’Shea, Omobamidele, and Collins in the same age group. It would be great if one of these kids could step forward into midfield 

I'd much rather every player, whether it's defender, midfielder or attacker, better themselves to the point that they can't be left out from their specific position. Will only be good for the individual, for competition within the team and the overall team itself.

Yeah, I agree with you really. Just daydreaming about the emergence of the new Paul McGrath Sleepy
 

Of course but the hope is for me with particularly the midfield and attacking talent in the 03,04,05 born groups is that will start to see us get some proper depth in the next 5/6 years in those positions also. Early days and they are kids plenty things can change but an awful lot of quality general midfield and attacking talent in those age groups.


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Originally posted by Left foot Left foot wrote:

Hes one of those player that just looks head and shoulders above everyone else in his age group.

He'll likely be a senior player this year at the moment oshea is ahead of him but also has a few years on him.

With Egan and oshea looking the preferred partnership at the moment and with Collins, mcguinness and omobamidele taking great steps. it looks like we'll have the centre back position covered very well.

So goalkeepers (kelleher, bazunu, Travers) I'd say we're looking good in this area.

Centre backs - well covered in this area.

Fullbacks - no real stand out potential coming through as yet, manning deserves a chance. But Doherty abs Coleman won't last forever.

Centre midfield - biggest area of concern in my opinion. Currently hourihane and hendrick most senior but haven't performed. Molumby and Cullen look like they may be good players. Knight looks the strongest prospect by a long way at this point.

Forwards - Robinson and connolly look good. Parrott was very good vs Andorra and we don't ever get a teenager scoring a couple of goals in senior games (friendly against minnows being a caveat but still....) hopefully idah can kick on too.
 

Midfield is a very interesting one. Would it be fair to say Smallbone Hodge Coventry Connell Watson and Johannson are the 5 to watch as regards where they go next year on loan or finding there way into the first team of their respective clubs. I didn’t include Devoy Finn Grant etc as they are attacking midfielders 
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They don't grow on trees but we badly need a playmaker to come to the fore. So many of our midfielders are by and large interchangeable. We have no (proven) midfielder that fundamentally shifts tempo and style when he's on the pitch.
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Originally posted by Banjaxed Banjaxed wrote:

They don't grow on trees but we badly need a playmaker to come to the fore. So many of our midfielders are by and large interchangeable. We have no (proven) midfielder that fundamentally shifts tempo and style when he's on the pitch.
 

There’s a few really promising ones Andrew Moran chief of them coming through but it will take a few years for them to really brake through he’s not 18 until the end of the year. Szmodics is an interesting declaration in that regard and Parrott is one that has the ability to play as a 10 too they could be the best prospects with a view to the next few years. 


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I think we can have a few good midfielders with molumby, knight, Cullen, smallbone and a good few others.

What we actually need is at least one excellent player, doesn't have to be a world star like Roy Keane but needs to be a very good premier league quality midfielder. Sadly grealish and Rice would have been ideal.

My point being we've had a good few average midfielders like whelan, hendrick, mccarthy, etc. But what we need is that one stand out player thsn can turn a game.
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Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

For all the talk about our strikers he's our best underage talent. I think he probably will go and that 15m might be negotiable downwards a little, as Stoke have been paying EPL wages in the Championship to some players and need to balance the books.

I think wherever he goes he's good enough that he will get a decent amount of playing time. Leicester might be a good balance between a team higher up the table and also one where he will also play.a reasonable amount in the short term. Evans, for instance, seems to be becoming more injury prone and is well into his 30s now.

Anything over £13m would be a new record transfer fee for an Irish player under 21.
 

Leicester would be a great move for him. Basically he would be signed as a replacement for Morgan who’s retiring. Even as 4th choice behind Evans Souncou Fofana with them in Europa and often playing 3 at the back he would get plenty gametime. 
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He's still very young, only 16, but Kevin Zefi could be the playmaker we need. Brilliant technical ability. Playing for 'Rovers 2' last year in the LOI first division he looked at class act. Interesting to see how he develops at Inter. Our next Wes hopefully.
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Originally posted by turbo10 turbo10 wrote:

He's still very young, only 16, but Kevin Zefi could be the playmaker we need. Brilliant technical ability. Playing for 'Rovers 2' last year in the LOI first division he looked at class act. Interesting to see how he develops at Inter. Our next Wes hopefully.

Evan Ferguson and calum mcloughlin seem to be the one I think look amazing prospects. I wouldn't be surprised if they considered one of the best players in their age groups.
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Kilkenny on his full debut for Bournmouth looked very good in the no10 role got MOTM surprised he didnt get much game time  after it tbh.
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Originally posted by JoxerDaly JoxerDaly wrote:

Kilkenny on his full debut for Bournmouth looked very good in the no10 role got MOTM surprised he didnt get much game time  after it tbh.

Strange one, Kilkenny. I was not impressed in the latest round of U21 internationals and he is often pushed out on the right instead of playing through the middle, which I think is his preference. 

Back on Collins, he seems to have a remarkably wide skill set while also being a giant at 6 ft 4. I think he could do well at an Arsenal
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Originally posted by Left foot Left foot wrote:

Originally posted by turbo10 turbo10 wrote:

He's still very young, only 16, but Kevin Zefi could be the playmaker we need. Brilliant technical ability. Playing for 'Rovers 2' last year in the LOI first division he looked at class act. Interesting to see how he develops at Inter. Our next Wes hopefully.

Evan Ferguson and calum mcloughlin seem to be the one I think look amazing prospects. I wouldn't be surprised if they considered one of the best players in their age groups.
 

Andrew Moran also, Finn at Getafe hopefully, Zak Gilsenan at Blackburn if he comes to us would be specifically a creative midfielder too. As stated that age group band 03,04,05 seems littered with top young attacking prospects which we need as the more you have the more likely you get a few properly kick on and make themselves real decent footballers.  
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From the u19s Josh Ireland looks the most creative imo from what ive seen. 
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