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Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Originally posted by Devrozex Devrozex wrote:

 
Yeah this bit is very odd. They drive there in the lashing rain, the whole time yer man banging on about what an utterly dangerous psycho this one chap is, and then when they get there they're all just roaming around freely. The only thing mental about that particular institution is their security measures.

This is where pre-editing hasn’t helped the story. There is a 9 minute deleted scene which apparently appears in US TV edits, where Sam Loomis hears the decision as to what to do with Myers until he is 18. Upon discovering the decision of the court, Loomis objects stating it’s a “minimum security institution”. The decision was based on Myers convincing the doctors, except Loomis, the he is in a catatonic state, and was no risk.

Without the scene it never makes clear it was a minimum security institution.

Why are there no lights or security though or any official people present as they approach the gates?

Haha yeah the girl spills a fraction of butter on herself and takes her jumper and pants offLOL

Not a plot hole but whats his obsession with Laurie?  You see his face at the end when he is attacking her and she pulls off his mask.  Never remember that before. Thought he was always faceless.  It was Martin O'Neill btw
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The obsession was with killing his sisters. Remember, he just killed his sister and didn’t attack his parents, in 1965. I think it might be in Number II, but how he knew he had another sister was explained, but she had been adopted.

Now, how he got the rest of the information about her whereabouts is another matter. She could have been adopted anywhere in the US.
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Originally posted by ChesterCopperpot ChesterCopperpot wrote:

How did Andy Dufresne stay in the one cell for 20 years without being moved?
Also how did he reattach the poster perfectly from the tunnel

I believe even the director admitted the poster was a mistake.

Yeah 20 years and he wasn’t moved or no inspection done on his room. The staff didn’t change in 20 years either. 

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The thread had me do a bit of looking and the one that stands out is Star Wars

The bigger problem caused by Lucas' retcon is that Obi-Wan's daft scheme to protect Anakin's son makes zero sense. Now that Anakin is full on evil he's going to want to put every measure in place to Vader from finding his spawn. Sure, Ben, let's take Luke back to dad's home planet, leave him with family and keep the surname Skywalker. That'll work. It doesn't even do Obi-Wan any favours, since he's forced into exile on a sh*thole desert planet he clearly loathes.
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What happened at the end of Once Upon a time in America ?
 
Did Max jump into the dumpster ?
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Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

The obsession was with killing his sisters. Remember, he just killed his sister and didn’t attack his parents, in 1965. I think it might be in Number II, but how he knew he had another sister was explained, but she had been adopted.

Now, how he got the rest of the information about her whereabouts is another matter. She could have been adopted anywhere in the US.


Is Laurie Stroud Michael's sister and she was adopted by other people?  (Who just happened to live down the street?)
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Originally posted by Cabra Hoop Cabra Hoop wrote:

What happened at the end of Once Upon a time in America ?
 
Did Max jump into the dumpster ?

Only watched it recently and did a bit of research. The answer is....it;s not know, and left to ambiguity if he did or he didn't

Saying that, the ending I took was that none of it was real and it was all a drug addled dream for Noodles
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Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

The obsession was with killing his sisters. Remember, he just killed his sister and didn’t attack his parents, in 1965. I think it might be in Number II, but how he knew he had another sister was explained, but she had been adopted.

Now, how he got the rest of the information about her whereabouts is another matter. She could have been adopted anywhere in the US.


Is Laurie Stroud Michael's sister and she was adopted by other people?  (Who just happened to live down the street?)

Yep. The supposition was he was catatonic and incapable of movement. He was also to be tried for the murder when he turned 18, and might have got the chair.
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Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

The obsession was with killing his sisters. Remember, he just killed his sister and didn’t attack his parents, in 1965. I think it might be in Number II, but how he knew he had another sister was explained, but she had been adopted.

Now, how he got the rest of the information about her whereabouts is another matter. She could have been adopted anywhere in the US.


Is Laurie Stroud Michael's sister and she was adopted by other people?  (Who just happened to live down the street?)

Yep. The supposition was he was catatonic and incapable of movement. He was also to be tried for the murder when he turned 18, and might have got the chair.


So was she born after he was in the asylum?  Mot sure what age she is supposed to be.  She had to have been before he was taken away as they were driving and having sex so I am guessing they were 17 or 18. He was in prison 15 yrs.   Her dad was an estate agent and that's why she went to the house I thought?  She was hardly adopted and her new parents living down the road? Make little sense.  Also her father would have known she was the Myers baby and hardly would send her back to the house of her sisters murder just to do a frivolous task for him. 
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But that’s on the assumption that Myers was being securely held. The cut scene makes that clear. People thought it was safe. He was a long way away (90 mins I believe), and the authorities were of the opinion that he was not a risk due to his state.

I’ve only realised over time that Loomis was viewed as an unreasonable quack. Pleasence’s excellent acting job slightly camouflages this.
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Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

But that’s on the assumption that Myers was being securely held. The cut scene makes that clear. People thought it was safe. He was a long way away (90 mins I believe), and the authorities were of the opinion that he was not a risk due to his state.

I’ve only realised over time that Loomis was viewed as an unreasonable quack. Pleasence’s excellent acting job slightly camouflages this.


Don;t make sense to me guv.   Why was she put up for adoption?  For her protection from Michael almost a witness protection programme?  If so why let her move in jsut downt he street from her old house! Hardly hiding her away is it?!  Also of he wasn't viewed as a risk then why the need to give her up for adoption in the first place?

I think I read somewhere that John Sullivan used to sometimes write under an alias called John Carpenter as he didn't want the BBC knowing he was pitching his ideas to other tv/film companies.
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Originally posted by Trap junior<div><br></div><div>Don;t make sense to me guv.   Why was she put up for adoption?  For her protection from Michael almost a witness protection programme?  If so why let her move in jsut downt he street from her old house! Hardly hiding her away is it?!  Also of he wasn't viewed as a risk then why the need to give her up for adoption in the first place?</div><div><br></div><div>I think I read somewhere that John Sullivan used to sometimes write under an alias called John Carpenter as he didn't want the BBC knowing he was pitching his ideas to other tv/film companies.<br></div>[/QUOTE Trap junior

Don;t make sense to me guv.   Why was she put up for adoption?  For her protection from Michael almost a witness protection programme?  If so why let her move in jsut downt he street from her old house! Hardly hiding her away is it?!  Also of he wasn't viewed as a risk then why the need to give her up for adoption in the first place?

I think I read somewhere that John Sullivan used to sometimes write under an alias called John Carpenter as he didn't want the BBC knowing he was pitching his ideas to other tv/film companies.
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The adoption was about the stigma of being associated with the Myers name and the killing. Easier to change the name, but ho hum. That might be the WPP aspect?

The adoption was about the stigma of being associated with the Myers name and the killing. Easier to change the name, but ho hum. That might be the WPP aspect?
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Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Originally posted by Trap junior<div><br></div><div>Don;t make sense to me guv.   Why was she put up for adoption?  For her protection from Michael almost a witness protection programme?  If so why let her move in jsut downt he street from her old house! Hardly hiding her away is it?!  Also of he wasn't viewed as a risk then why the need to give her up for adoption in the first place?</div><div><br></div><div>I think I read somewhere that John Sullivan used to sometimes write under an alias called John Carpenter as he didn't want the BBC knowing he was pitching his ideas to other tv/film companies.<br></div></td></tr></table> <div><br></div><div>The adoption was about the stigma of being associated with the Myers name and the killing. Easier to change the name, but ho hum. That might be the WPP aspect?</div><div>[/QUOTE Trap junior

Don;t make sense to me guv.   Why was she put up for adoption?  For her protection from Michael almost a witness protection programme?  If so why let her move in jsut downt he street from her old house! Hardly hiding her away is it?!  Also of he wasn't viewed as a risk then why the need to give her up for adoption in the first place?

I think I read somewhere that John Sullivan used to sometimes write under an alias called John Carpenter as he didn't want the BBC knowing he was pitching his ideas to other tv/film companies.

The adoption was about the stigma of being associated with the Myers name and the killing. Easier to change the name, but ho hum. That might be the WPP aspect?
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Why didn't the parents change their name?  Giving a baby up for adoption is a bit drastic no?  Could they not move to another town?LOL

Also where is baby Laurie when the parents return home? She is not with them.  And what's Michael's reason for killing his sisters?




Why didn't the parents change their name?  Giving a baby up for adoption is a bit drastic no?  Could they not move to another town?LOL

Also where is baby Laurie when the parents return home? She is not with them.  And what's Michael's reason for killing his sisters?
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Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Originally posted by Trap junior<div><br></div><div>Don;t make sense to me guv.   Why was she put up for adoption?  For her protection from Michael almost a witness protection programme?  If so why let her move in jsut downt he street from her old house! Hardly hiding her away is it?!  Also of he wasn't viewed as a risk then why the need to give her up for adoption in the first place?</div><div><br></div><div>I think I read somewhere that John Sullivan used to sometimes write under an alias called John Carpenter as he didn't want the BBC knowing he was pitching his ideas to other tv/film companies.<br></div></td></tr></table> <div><br></div><div>The adoption was about the stigma of being associated with the Myers name and the killing. Easier to change the name, but ho hum. That might be the WPP aspect?</div><div></td></tr></table> <br></div><div><br></div><div>Why didn't the parents change their name?  Giving a baby up for adoption is a bit drastic no?  Could they not move to another town?<img src=smileys/smiley36.gif border=0 alt=LOL title=LOL /><br></div><div><br></div><div>Also where is baby Laurie when the parents return home? She is not with them.  And what's Michael's reason for killing his sisters?</div><div><br></div><div><br></div>[/QUOTE Trap junior

Don;t make sense to me guv.   Why was she put up for adoption?  For her protection from Michael almost a witness protection programme?  If so why let her move in jsut downt he street from her old house! Hardly hiding her away is it?!  Also of he wasn't viewed as a risk then why the need to give her up for adoption in the first place?

I think I read somewhere that John Sullivan used to sometimes write under an alias called John Carpenter as he didn't want the BBC knowing he was pitching his ideas to other tv/film companies.

The adoption was about the stigma of being associated with the Myers name and the killing. Easier to change the name, but ho hum. That might be the WPP aspect?


Why didn't the parents change their name?  Giving a baby up for adoption is a bit drastic no?  Could they not move to another town?LOL

Also where is baby Laurie when the parents return home? She is not with them.  And what's Michael's reason for killing his sisters?


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Myers reason for killing? Just look to Sam Loomis’ words. No conscience, no reason, not human etc. In terms of where is baby Laurie, she could be at another house. Or else, Myers mother may have been 8 months pregnant at the time.

Adoption may have been drastic. But what would it have done to the movie had they just moved away?

Myers reason for killing? Just look to Sam Loomis’ words. No conscience, no reason, not human etc. In terms of where is baby Laurie, she could be at another house. Or else, Myers mother may have been 8 months pregnant at the time.

Adoption may have been drastic. But what would it have done to the movie had they just moved away?
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Could Myers not kill normal people though? What's his reason for going after his sister?

Where are you getting all this info from? The deleted scene?  There's nothing in the film that addresses these issues.
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Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Could Myers not kill normal people though? What's his reason for going after his sister?

Where are you getting all this info from? The deleted scene?  There's nothing in the film that addresses these issues.



I can only hypothesise the pregnancy.

In terms of the obsession with his sisters that again is down to his personality that Loomis spoke of at great length over the films.

And he kills many other people throughout the film, including a mechanic just for the overalls.


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