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Hotlips_Hoolahan 
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Doesn't really matter what his underage coach a half-decade ago thinks, unfortunately. If you asked me am I confident about pulling tonight, I'd respond with an emphatic yes despite going home alone 99 times out of a 100. We'll find out in a few months where his head is at, but all the signs are pointing towards another Okoflex situation.
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Those are very poor riding stats . If you’re heading out once a week on average, that equates to getting your hole every second year. Pull your socks up son.
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BrendanD88
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What signs? Do you believe this in every case regarding black Irish men?
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Hotlips_Hoolahan
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I said the same thing about Grealish and Rice and I'd say the same thing about Hodge and Okoflex. It has nothing to do with race and it's really crass and tacky when people bring that up in an effort to shut down conversation about dual-eligible footballers. Maybe you're obsessed with people's skin colour but I'm not. Personally I'd argue that for a nation that loves to claim every person with a drop of Irish blood as Irish, we have this weird thing about ignoring the African lineage of lads like Ogbene, Okoflex and Odubeko, as if the possibility of them not feeling 100% Irish is completely out of the question simply because they were born or spent 10 or 11 years of their life here - ignoring the fact some of them [Odubeko] have spent their formative teenage years in England. God knows if we had an English-born player move to Carlow when he was 12, lads would be jumping on the possibility of him playing for us.
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Imagine hearing a Tallaght accent wearing the three Lions......the ultimate slap in the face 
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Well, we've had a full blown cockney gor-blimey like Andy Townsend captaining the men in green. But his granny was Beatrice Brown from Kerry, so that's all right then.
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Well we've never had anyone solely because they lived here a few years.....apart from Bundi Aki............those rugger boys are all West Brits anyway
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Is he not irish? Does nationality mean nothing to people these days?
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And how do you apply that rule to the English born lads who have worn green ? Out of interest He's Irish born, of Nigerian parents who possibly has an England option through having grown up there plenty too. He's whatever he says he is. His life and parentage have given him career options and that's that. Whether we like it or not. Hopefully he goes green.
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Doesn't seem to be any reason to think he won’t accept a call up. Happy to just tune this one out until something happens
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I said "I'd be Tony Cascarino, circa 1995" |
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don't worry Nigeria will be in for him like they are in for every non Nigerian born player
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BrendanD88
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Harry Kane turn them down?
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horsebox
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And why wouldn't they? |
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Rice - English born Hodge - English born Grealish - English born Odubeko - born and raised in Dublin, hardly the same, albeit I do agree on your point about the contradiction about us claiming second generation lads and ignoring it for these lads.
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pre Madonna
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The vast majority won't be eligible for them.
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Why not? In this case, his parents are from Nigeria. |
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DeclanDaly
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Obviously, Nigeria focuses on players with Nigerian lineage - and there are a lot. They have a very sophisticated camp structure for recruiting players and integrating them. I’m not sure how successful it has been overall, but the intent is there. And the fans are all over tracking the diaspora.
Their disadvantage is that their international calendar conflicts with the domestic calendar for players based in Europe. I guess that’s not appealing for young players who are starting their careers.
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You asked if I'd be anyone from history, fact or fiction, dead or alive:
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pre Madonna
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Because the vast majority of "non Nigerian born player" won't be eligible for Nigeria. Basic demographics.
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