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The intention with these investments by English teams in Scottish or European clubs is usually to get around post-Brexit work permit rules that are restricting them from bringing younger non-UK and Irish players straight into English clubs (Irish players restricted up to 18 but not after that). 

But in doing so they also, more often than not, end up significantly strengthening the club they invest into in the process and bringing in players as well as putting facilities in place that the club wouldn't have previously had access to.

FWIW I think it's only a matter of time before something similar happens in Ireland and one or more English clubs take a significant stake in a League of Ireland club.


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Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

The intention with these investments by English teams in Scottish or European clubs is usually to get around post-Brexit work permit rules that are restricting them from bringing younger non-UK and Irish players straight into English clubs (Irish players restricted up to 18 but not after that). 

But in doing so they also, more often than not, end up significantly strengthening the club they invest into in the process and bringing in players as well as putting facilities in place that the club wouldn't have previously had access to.

FWIW I think it's only a matter of time before something similar happens in Ireland and one or more English clubs take a significant stake in a League of Ireland club.

It seems a logical next step for English clubs alright and unfortunately it's probably the most likely way for us to see significant investment in training facilities etc. across the country. If we are waiting on the FAI to get things right, it could take quite some time. English club owners have deep enough pockets that buying up an Irish club would barely register on their balance sheets. Given the success of Ferguson and our underage teams more generally, it would seem a no brainer for an English club or two or three to get seriously involved over here in the not too distant future.
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Absolutely. Ferguson, Collins and Bazunu all went over to England at 16. The next generation of young Irish talent can't do that in most cases, but they can still go to Europe. So, what better way for English clubs to get first call on the next Evan Ferguson ahead of European teams - and their rivals in the Premier League - than by going the direct route and setting up a base in Ireland.
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Vitoria are a level above the likes of Hearts and Aberdeen, they're co-owned by the Arab/American billionaire owners of Aston Villa and are having a lot of money invested into them at present. (There are some rumours that something similar might be in the pipeline for Hibs with the City Group, but at this point in time Vitoria would be a level above them also).

Having watched Aberdeen try to play football for the last two hours, I'm sticking to my guns on this! Says something that they're the third best team in Scotland...
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Vitoria are a level above the likes of Hearts and Aberdeen, they're co-owned by the Arab/American billionaire owners of Aston Villa and are having a lot of money invested into them at present. (There are some rumours that something similar might be in the pipeline for Hibs with the City Group, but at this point in time Vitoria would be a level above them also).

Having watched Aberdeen try to play football for the last two hours, I'm sticking to my guns on this! Says something that they're the third best team in Scotland...

Dont want to die in a ditch over this, but maybe have a gander and see how Vitoria do later (18:00) away to Porto.
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Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

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Vitoria are a level above the likes of Hearts and Aberdeen, they're co-owned by the Arab/American billionaire owners of Aston Villa and are having a lot of money invested into them at present. (There are some rumours that something similar might be in the pipeline for Hibs with the City Group, but at this point in time Vitoria would be a level above them also).

Having watched Aberdeen try to play football for the last two hours, I'm sticking to my guns on this! Says something that they're the third best team in Scotland...

Dont want to die in a ditch over this, but maybe have a gander and see how Vitoria do later (18:00) away to Porto.

Their only result vs the Top 4 teams (Porto, Benfica, Braga, Sporting) in Portugal in 7 matches to date in the League was a 0-0 at home to Benfica early in the season, they lost the return fixture 5-1.
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Lads for the love of god, Aberdeen’s best player was in the Portuguese second league last season - where he scored at max 10 goals.
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Johnston subbed off after 20 minutes tonight - hopefully not an injury, it might not be as Vitoria had a player sent off on two minutes, so always going to be a long night for them from there and they may have needed to get a more defensive player on.
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